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in the system must be the one else calls question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on russia to day and split the ortiz full neck. even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube, the 7 the, [000:00:00;00] the we know how to do

a thing i've been leaving with this situation since the night at 10. that's the india leave with a 2 months reduce and all that is all on the side, they sion of like feel patients that i'm gonna get setup all of this. the other one, the kind of the typical project we have luck from russia. i mean, the article fund wouldn't have come from any of it as part of the weekly uh, you know, really our jobs do it personally. and i think that is the source of great satisfaction, [000:00:00;00] the, to hello and welcome. my name is on a problem kid. welcome to the show. better for the next hoffman odd or we will be talking all the things in the part of the very special guest is a former northern army commander, known for it as distinguished service and expertise in military strategy and national security. they come left and another defendant thing already. thank you.

so why so, so why the way it that we have so also on our to be talking to you left kind of general depends, are seeing who the is a highly decorated former indian army officer with a career spanning 40 years. he served as the northern army come under from 2014 to 2016, overseeing the 2016 surgical strikes and practiced on other key military operations, particularly in jumbo and kashmir. he's also served in the united nation submission in ethiopia and eritrea. after retiring, he contributed significantly, shaping india's national security strategy by leading a congress appointed task force to develop a comprehensive security doctrine in 2019. so i grew up with the amazing patriotic feelings. wonderful. uh, and whenever i see an army office that i feel like,

that'd be good. i was born after the ideas of independence. do you see the same fashion for army and now among the common people? yeah, there is. so are there. yeah, that'd be. yeah. if you, if you actually look at the way that it goldman drive, these are out of handling the numbers of people who come up that kind of enthusiasm, that is there to, to join them. every 4th is. and i think over the years what has not weakened is this, you know, the see pause, pride in uniform, the desire to do well. so, i mean, these are, these are issues that really, i think people, i mean really consistent then very good. i isn't even for the motivation that you do and the and so i thought it was, it was amazing. so. so bad. so when you go for the train, the way did you do you finish reading? so i it was exactly 16 year old when i joined the national defense, i graduate and i have already on the phone, but i was 60 years old. i mean almost all of my life as being in uniform and you would, you would also not the 1st person from the armed forces in your family. in my family

i was my father was in the army. my little brother was in the army. so this leg goes out of natural progression that, you know, he's, you hold to that the guy in the hours, but did you want to do something else? or you were happy to be here, you know, just just out of school and then straight into india. and nice all the near to you might it's yes it is amazing. it's unbelievable means a made elective. huh. so the 2 uh, 2500 people get. it's sitting this great, 1st of all uh i, i usually use a lot of humor in my speeches, but to do it like that. so often the whole thing about, oh, come on, you said it was a successful lecture. i said, no, no reaction. you said nobody sleep, nobody slept. yeah, i think it takes me through the whole that actually to make it a success. that's amazing. how successful and support, uh, 40 or draining the adult is draining. redeem is 40 as a new one in june. can for the very, very important period of us. yes. how,

how i just want to understand in a, in a situation a bit, then you have to deal with people who are the enemies of a country and you have or strategize. what goes, what is the one point that goes on in your mind? so basically, i think, you know, that is i and you have a clear objective in the military that you have some listed to me and i think that's remain. so for most of all your planning and what do it objective is very objective is to bring these finish out there to them and you're going this way, then all your actions are deal accordingly. with that, with that single minded focus and object not to good 370 obligation has really had yes, if that's it. as we do elaborate all sorts, as you know, whilst it was, have significant, very significantly come down. i think the narrative that stuff which really wasn't possible within the state you mind have youngest lead, having a separate constitution and a separate constitution for the country. some separateness tendencies that dental

is because of this different constitutional arrangements. i think all of that has all that, all that is now gone and then there's some people who sort of we are in a freak on the people have a of opinion about everything. but what do you personally feel when somebody criticizes me in the country? look, you know, you obviously uh, you obviously done that, you know, as long as you keep doing and you all properly. but that time you are still going to go to the 1st 70. nice. that's i personally, sometimes you've seen it. i mean i, i wasn't responsible planning the so i did go strikes. yes. i remember and later, you know, there was some questions raised. i still did it actually happened reddick? yeah. i'm politicians. yeah. so the position seems to be the new, the new really bad. what are they said? i just do it the, you know, really a job to do it professionally. and i think that is the source of great satisfaction for you. you have spoken to you how to against politicizing military obligations. what kind of damage do you think it closes people in the site?

they shut off with a tree, operations, the damage it sort of causes this. the other one, if i still have them, when you started sort of taking decisions based on what your thing is, but a degree correct. rather then on what should we professionally the right way to go, which is i think on this for you and it was only among the trees and which is why they keep themselves away from politics. and that did good folder peter to pay and starts out of impacting your professional approach. i mean, we, i mean to give a professional opinion to the political leadership that sometimes gets them back to . and if you have any visibility, show sort of political leading and what is the role of media in it, they're going to the media today and particularly the, the social media and you know how it is, lots of misinformation this information. but again, as i said, as uh, as professionals, i'm just, i'm show it as, as you will do it and the okay. yeah, is try instead of a detach yourself

a little bit and try and sort of seek the truth. not always easy, but that's how it is. i do think they should be a control on it and know for sure to control on it that has to know. i mean, why yes, i mean i'm leaving that what you're saying is absolutely some, some, some sense of regulation. so i'm on the regulation and i think the social media platforms are also understanding that because their platforms are also being misused by a lot of people. me and so i think some regulation is so nice to meet with. why do you think india is still in the pop up and on the line was, is growing tires with the us and growing ties also with the restaurant. because we feel that whatever actions we take, if you have to buy uh, no, do you supplies from rush company that moved i've seen on national invest and we will do it. so that's the sort of part which we have been following, and really i think is, is that i know some people say just as it was one step through which to recollect

on alignment earlier. would you give credit for this balance on the credit has to go to the political leadership and the people that they have. and we have a very solve and you know that my understanding foreign minister, he's being in diplomacy for all his life. and so that he, i typically the way he a position in the stands and the way he's able to clearly explain it. oh, i think we have a, we have a, we have a good fun with this to you today. we, we, we do a lot of, uh, we have a lot of budget for roger defense forces. uh, why need to do that? it's a required thing because we are surrounded by certain people who look at you and you look at what your challenges i is to go to the challenges. so you have focused on, on one side, which since independence has shown affility towards india and also a corporate properly. so that is capable of meeting and challenges among the surgical strikes when people by saying that they actually happened on the did not

happen. um, this is my personal care, i'll set you up. why it wasn't it sort of turn it into the faces of those people who were saying it that this is so. so let me tell you, i mean frankly when these things started coming out, i was personally of the opinion that and we had videos. we had big chairs which subsequently, when we leased by the government, i think after, after almost any or so we did bibles a little bit at that time was that we should put these out. so that any, you know the tract. uh then people like saying, how does it happen not only, not only from outside but even 5 years time say yeah, i do like that in part of the accident was no, i didn't say nothing has happened at all. nobody has come up. so i, i, anyway, but you know, that was the decision that they did it later. but as i said, well, patient listing. yeah. so i was the, i mean, i need, so actually the plan really,

really angry with me and did the editors, notes and things like that. they all, they sort of condescendingly, yeah. behaved, to address that. and are you what i, what i think, you know, we have clearly stated that what we will do is in our national interest and also in the country has progress. i was looking for the 5th largest economy in the was, i think that is a growing stage politically, diplomatically, economically. so i don't think got, you know, those last time. then people who look down on you and to say whether this country off the button as well even so i love the you as a single entity. i think those times at all you're very, very calm. the same thing it's, i think i'm sure it's or the peter of you is that you have it and you how i mean people also automatically choose the right words it's,

it's sort of impresses me and baffles me on so there's not a single word which really will which is the lose i have to think about a 1000 and thing don't maybe i'm given my dialogue and i feel like i obviously have yeah. you have to live do live that? yes, exactly. oh, i have lived 545. yeah. yeah. that's yeah, i didn't have, i just had a strong military bond. how important and its relationship i bought it in the rush of relationship is not new. i think it's, it has a long history behind it. there's a great deal of consistency in how russia has come to india as age when requires, i mean 71 war for example, you had the kind of military, a coupon that we have worked from russia. for example, new kids have marines that they lead us. i mean, the article thing wouldn't have gone from anywhere. it is. and so there is a great deal of history behind the tie. what are the reason of this morning? me? is there any particular this?

as i said, as i said, it's because the have sort of treated us with a great deal of maternity. they have looked at our national interest a number of cases where in the security council resolution the test drive, they have come through. i hope there was a video of friendship and 1971. so in the american uh, actually doing that, you can watch. we have continued to pick out either of these supplies and will it be the coupon from them. and what is the make in india program done for pilots ministry? let me, let me put it this way. today. we have the largest alms in puerto in the wide. mm hm. okay. and yeah, and yeah, the biggest sounds important in the world of accounting for almost 10 percent of global arms and boards. and if you want to be an industrial and scientific power this and then we'll have to follow this situation obviously is not good. and so we need to develop our own indigenous capability. and i think the push that has been

given by the government is excellent. and they have said that slowly over a period of time use side within india. but the policies that they have put in place, the processes that they have within place that slowly the villain does an ice and we let it produce out on um sending copeland, i think is an oak sending and it should do uh, will it happen quickly? um, maybe not, but the predicted and direction is absolutely chair. so i am saying in the next 56 . yeah, you will see a strong enough defense industrial base. and i think it's an excellent initiative. why the government, they are completely telemundo bush and you've said that citizens that often for water and in the national security now to do what do you mean by that? see i, i go to a national security strategy and one pillar of died was protecting on people. the point i'm making is not shown to get. it is not merely about it. it's important to predict about us to make sure i think those figured is good. but

ultimately, as the citizens of this country and, and why i am saying of protecting them is because you have the shows like jobs. you have the shows like environment, time of change, how it is going to impact uh, organization is going to take place, but i'm going to move from, you know, only just religious to towns. how would you provide them the set of facilities that they need? this also so i think should form an integral part of how we look at our national security, which is why i said they don't. people also must be in the hospital 5. the scores send discussions on, on, nationalistic, everything. yeah, that's i do me, vincent, but also it is even the dentist attacks the country. right. the increased completely and there was a into them thing sort of idea. so this is the political build things do absolutely . i think you have the credit in this gulf on this and i think it's,

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