in this prison is more like, always call a blank canvas and a beautiful landscape. i think that there are a lot of things that we can accomplish here. if given the opportunity, the, everybody's watching everything they do, everywhere they go everywhere they gather, they have to really, really, really be above board to make this happen. to have to worry about the putting the whole they have to worry about being moved to another prison depending on how hard they pushed. they don't want to be too vocal because they don't want to be signaled out as a security risk because it'll be in vocal about something that they want to learn. they can move them at any time. they can be taken, you know,

just rolled up and move to another facility at any time for any reason. there's nothing i can say or do about it. i'm pretty sure they steal down all the way up to this point. but you can argue with our results. that's the thing that you can argue . cameras in every classroom, as soon as we got a classroom camera start coming up because it was like, okay, well we got to see exactly what's happening, but that's good. not only put a camera in here, you can come and sit in our classroom and you can learn to the maturity, he think capacity to use ones intelligence without the guidance of another. look at his convenience. is that no one, not even a monarch are making in p enlightenment of the public. okay. okay. i thought it was. i thought it was a difficult,

reese. i thought it was difficult raises. i mean, that's what i dress up for from that, you know, i'm not enough. i'm right around. it is not about right or wrong. it's about interpretation. no one can say if your interpretation is wrong, we don't have a manual can here to be able to ask them. what did you mean by this? and you have english scholars literary scholars, will try to explain to you what somebody live 20300 years ago. literally meant when they don't know, what am i gathering from this? and at the end of the day, that's all that really matters is what you're gathering, right? because there's a lot of people here who are under the idea that we are kind of exchanging our boundaries as person or somebody is lying to you as somebody in the hallways been so scared about how i've looked on the desk of corey,

how can be a young college kid and me being just, you know, some hoodlum from tacoma house. anybody would be able to kind of see the person that i've become for my manager. that's something that's always been a fee or a mind. nobody will ever give me a chance. the washington state does not have to wait for role in the early ninety's when it replaced parole with was determined it sends. in other words, i'm going to send you to a period of time and it cannot be reduced, doesn't matter what you do in prison. that's your sense washington has started to figure out that the system is not very jobs, but it doesn't work. and so they've started to bring parole back to actually

brought caroll back for sex offences. and the other group is juvenile commodity had committed the crime. $61.00 days earlier, each 2 months passed is 18th birthday to little bit of juvenile and you'd be eligible for parole to the problem was punishment. the problem was setting a life without parole cents for somebody who was 18 years old at the time in the crime is you don't know who he's going to be 20 years old. the. there was never really something that i was intending to have to. while i just got curious, probably because there was a lot of people who was actually going home to class. the 1st thing i did is i kind of started writing letters to some attorneys about, you know, what was the possibilities within a week? you know, he sent me a letter and told me to call you said that during my clements, it will be something that he will be willing to do. today we filed

a clemency petition with the washington state clemency board. its a formal request asking for a consultation of commodity sense, asking the governor to change his life sentence to essentially credit for time sir, to let him go the some family members that have been to prison and seen him even some that went in spoke with him the different people were telling me, oh, he's changing, he's trying to be a better person. but their plan, but he wasn't ready to accept that. the thought about reaching out to me and start to write them. and then after all, the way i did that probably maybe 6 or 7 times and then i just said, okay,

forget it. probably 6 months after that coupon you sent me a message. i read it right a couple times over and over. i let my family members read it. my grandmother, she raised me from the time i was 6 months old. and she always and still goodness, spirit of forgiveness. and he had asked me for my forgiveness in his message, but he said to me. and so i told him i said, for gave you a long time ago, i didn't, i'm not gonna forget what happened. it's a buffer game. as i understand the challenges you may have had growing up and i'm not excusing your behavior. but i forgive you,

so not only in my for giving you for what you did. i have to forgive you to allow myself to move on into hill. the well really was interested in his daughter was murdered. she was 3 and a half years old when she was murdered, the lady that beat my grand daughter to death. actually given her. she didn't have to choose to be a mother. she grew up in such a violent atmosphere and was in a gang when she was 11. and so when she had my grand daughter, she wasn't capable of showing love or she didn't have. she didn't know how. and so in an angry drug, addicted rage, she beat my granddaughter to and i always missing, i lose. and i it'd be 23 years old now. but i want to have a 2nd chance, you know,

because i feel like she never had a chance. i remember when i was in olympia fighting for this deal. you know, i was a mother trying to fight for his son and try for people to get out in colorado. but all these victims came in the 2nd and i thought, you know, i have to evict him to, you know, and i thought, you know what, maybe next time we go to fight for this deal. i'll be a victim supporting the bill. where they go from, say i'm a victim and i guess this bill i'm going to be, i'm a victim and i'm for this bill. we are in this dichotomy, either a victim or you were perpetrator. it's not true. victims are perpetrators, perpetrators of victims. and we have to get to a place where we understand we're all victims of the system. i've had a son who was murdered and i have a family that had different ideas about what justice meant and what they wanted to come out of that process. and i think that had, i not had the experience that i've had with the black presence caucus over 20 years

. ringback i may or may not have had the same feeling about that, but i was able to immediately begin requires that we look historically, we contextualize what is happening so that it's not just, i did something to you or you did something to me. the other environmental things that are pushing our behavior, impacting our behavior. each of us has the capacity, the unfortunate capacity to do terrible things. if the wrong set of circumstances are presented, we need to get to a place in this country where people kind of tone for their actions and where the hands of forgiveness can be extend. the prisons are not institutions that need to all the good things that happen in prison. that every

once in a while, a prison official recognizes that an individual has accomplish something that deserves being talked about in commodities case. a prison official told me that commodity had done more in terms of race relations in prison. and anybody who had ever worked at that prison, that included professional staff we submitted our petition with a great deal of hope because we felt that commodity had satisfied somewhat vague standard of showing extraordinary circumstances. marriage seen a change in this sense. i think that is more about them being able to see, come on in that i've become and not the commodity that i was was. and i think that they do to 9 is because they haven't got past that point. you have a prepaid call,

you will not be charged for this. call. this call is from an inmate at crown bay correction center, which calls will be recorded and monitored. if you wish to block anything to the cause of this nature, dial 7. now to accept this call, press 5, now to decline. this call me. thank you. a . the russian stage never is as tight as i'm one of the most sense community best most i'll send send up the in the 6595 and speed. the one else calls question about this. even though

we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on russia cruising and split the ortiz full neck, even our video agency, roughly all the band on youtube. the agent said, this was the question. did you say a request to change the acceptance and i'm going to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show . seriously. why watch something that's so different little opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please, or do the have the state department, the c i a weapons, bankers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and

whatever you do. don't my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again, it's not. we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way you all right, no changes. made it worse for myself and present. made it worse for me. i don't wanna lose faith. i want to continue going on what you're doing, cuz you're helping the next person get out of jail and continue to stay out

of jail to be a better father. so brother, person in society, probably blood sugar one. let me lock the my interest is in people like commodity, who worked on rehabilitation and who've been told by the system, you will never get out. it does not matter what you do in prison. it will make no difference in terms of where you die. i want to be able to say yes, it will, because i believe that somebody like commodity makes our community a better community the this the, they're all the same just in different stages of right. so this one. yes. so that

one's really, really right. and there's something that turn proposal just different varieties i was released in june. i was at work release until november 5th. during that time i worked with the school and now i am still on monetary community custody. and i live with my family. i'm just trying to figure it out pretty well, isn't so free or it's not equitable. so if you have the resources to have 5 options open to you and i have the resources to have to open to me, how free am i to really choose? and as long as society, these up opportunity and resources where

a certain kind of person has 5 and another kind as to for nothing except for superficial characteristics that are outside of an individual central. it will be society's fault that prisons are for society. the state, the government institutions, all these words that we use that are big and morph is that, that we're trying to, trying to make of this concrete thing that has power for us is us. and we are complicit in our own captivity as long as we don't know that they are us the i was just a war ariah we get to the about just is right. what do you guys to the,

what comes to mind when we hear the word justice facing. huh. the okay. what else to go room? a person operations on the i don't want to fail, but you guys are being a little bit negative, right? because just if it's related to all the bad the that has happened was right.

so yeah, of course who we thought we'd go with the negative. right. because of all the things that i mean horrible. well being in the car, most of us have negative experiences when it comes to just do a justice system. yeah. okay. so, so let me, let me make kind of rephrase that. when i, when i think up dust is i think of these classroom by you and, and speech by, in general with all of the class is doing is, is, is doing the child got this because sample in life there was something that was missing from our sales that opportunity that we never had. right. so by as kind of future mature something new or something that can empower identity. do any to adjust the justice is the penalty or reward for one's actions. a side penalty or reward because justice

can be serving a good way or so. just trying to make sure that everything that i do understand is wrong, eventually come back on me some shape or form. and that to me is just these, the good things that i do. we've actually come back to me and go in and bad things . i do actually come back to me in a bad way. it's about integrity for me also. i just, i just think that justice is always watching just this isn't, isn't i thing just like, you know, if you, if you break the laws of the land, you will be locked up. that's a small part of justice, which is even bigger than that just as she control the things that you're dealing with. nobody else is watching. awesome justice has to be individualized. justice has to ask, how is that community harms and how can we make it better? and what role should this individual have in making that community better? just that's

a tough one. and i'm not certain all over. no one justices just as i'm not sure if i thought ever thought about that much just to our part in the system. and then the next part of to do their part the, the lawyers on both sides and judges. but i would still feel good about the part i did the this is not about a prison education program and to be very clear, it is not about the department of corrections at all. they just geographically happened to be a press there. they could be oppressed anywhere else in the community, the, it's a trip because we've got some class issues going on. there are many of us who do not believe that people are in prison. could have the answers to our problem. the we did not believe that the people sleeping out

of the bridge can have the answers to the reality. the because we have people with the the master's degrees will then have been certified to do that work. and they have been doing and over and over and over and over and over again. i'm in a, in the system where we've had a 10 year plan that is now turned into a 20 year plan. they just change a name and it's game. those brothers, no game. so all the class that we offer. we can't wait. just the people in prison. aaron's children have the solutions to our problem. and what we will do it 10 years . if we don't attend to this, we'll be visiting some the, but i'm not gonna put that on your babies. but it's really the truth. i don't think it's not true the,

because they got the deal, c, b, l, t, the federal detention center, the juvenile system. everybody's in the business, the and then wait for the education system to fail, our babies so that they go in there that i don't, we want to blame deal seats because it took a whole lot of solutions to get them the we failed, we failed them in spite of that, they've got the, the, in the sense that spirit, that's labor did not to the

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quota were beaten and mutilated to keep the congo these people under control. they king set up the so called forest bleak, which were punitive detachments that cast terror on the captured country. and its inhabitants, fearing that their subordinates would simply waste bullets hunting for wild animals . the officers demanded that the soldiers gave an answer for every bullet use. and as proof presented a job hand of an african, it was not uncommon when drying to justify the use of the munition. the colonists amputated the hands of not only those who were dead, but also of those who were kept alive. the atrocious exploitation of the congo turned into a real genocide. you know, late 20 years, the policy of the belgians laid to the death of nearly 10000000 people alongside the holocausts. the genocide of the congo population is considered to be one of the green mist pages in the history of mankind.

the, the in the headlines here with all the international color blind to red lines and is an escalation in the making a bite and says, washington is hashing out the details to give to you the green light to use the western weapons to strike deep into russian territory, i have a plan, let's talk about our plans in the end. let's compare the plans. i have a plan. so if you just started by saying she's going to do this, she's going to do that. she's going to do all these wonderful things. why hasn't she done it? it's all blame and lots of showmanship as donald trump and come a lot higher with space. so from the presidential debate, so any talk of serious policies is left far off on the multi point of