the, the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross talk. we're all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . historically in the west freedom of speech was deemed a right and not a privilege. it appears. this is no longer the case. this is also the case with the latest iteration of the russian gate hopes. on the right speech is allowed the cross i think free speech. i'm joined by my guess, larry johnson in tampa. he is a managing partner for burg associates, a former c i. a analyst and us state department counter terrorism official in

denver. we have tyler nixon. he is an attorney and political strategist and in rest and we have michael maloof. he is a former pentagon senior security policy analyst, our job in cross lock roles in effect. that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate larry, let me go to you 1st in tampa with your wonderful collection of shirts. so we're all, you're always grace us with something new and much appreciated. but larry, i've been following a lot of your media appearances. your of speech has, i guess becoming more and more dangerous. the more and more you talk, because i'm looking around seeing people that are being detained, beginning knocks on the door, their passports taken away from them. so are you a dangerous guy? yeah, that i am not a dangerous guy, but this government has become a dangerous government. this is of the resurrection of russia gate. you know, to quote, yogi berra stage of who all over again. we are now faced with

trying to convince the american people that the most metal of some government in the world, russia is able to r t a rush to today and are a television station. they cannot broadcast in the united states. that is shut down on social media platforms such as apple tv. you can't log on to apple tv and bring up our tea. yet somehow to some magical mystery. a bill of e r t is manipulating and controlling the us political situation. i mean, really it's, i have to confess, i mean, i'm very impressed. well, a, literally, it's a, according to our obligation. it's amazing what $10000000.00 can do in a $1000000000.00 presidential campaign. just remarkable. got tyler, you know, it's interesting. the rest of gate 3 point now kinda dropped at kind to about the time where we come. our harris's post convention bump was dissipating, and the,

the polls were closing in on or the that's just a coincidence. don't you think? oh no of course of course is not about desperation because they have a pathetically weak and flawed candidate to replace the demented a single president that was foisted on the country at 3 and a half years ago. you know, the reality is that this is just desperation moves. it's, it's uh, you know, the, it there, exposing fully the authoritarian lanes to which the toe tablets airing leads to which this regime will go. i mean, this is just, this is the sort of tail end of years of what have been persecution to political opponents, using law fair every tactic in the book over overcharging. you're going to have to grandma, in the case of the january, 6, the incident. and then of course, the lopsided incredibly lopsided and you know, frankly, some people say 2 tiers of justice or multiple tiers of justice. i would say if there's any prayers of justice besides one and then there's no justice at all. and

that's what we've seen demonstrated by this uh, this, frankly, brewing on fascist regime. and considering where they've lined up with an ukraine. you know, it really does show their true nature true colors. i mean, it's just, it's, it's in a front to everything. this country is stood for when it, when it oppose the soviet russians and is a joke. i mean, this is the c, i a, is the single worst metal or in, in foreign affairs of other nations, internal affairs of other countries as they probably ever existed on the face of the planet. and now they're probably doing the same within our domestic up all the i can't remember saying in december of 2016 on this program here is that the intelligence community is doing every, a forest regime change within the united states. and that's what we have see, non stop ever since donald trump arrived on the scene. you know, michael, it's, you have to give it to him for their ingenuity here. i mean,

we're there with this allegation of this indictment in it. and i want to make sure our viewers understand that is the best case quote unquote, for the prosecution. there's no discovery involved here. there's no push back here . a grand jury is meaningless in this case because there's no push back here. but the ingenuity of this one is that it's trying to trap so called a right wing. conservative influencers is kind of take a, it's kind of, it's like a 2 for one, michael. well, it's, it's, uh, it's laughable if it weren't so serious because it isn't just um, an attack against russia. it's an attack on americas fundamental freedoms that we're seeing today, or seen george or wells 1984 double speak. double. think new, speak, big brother coming and meeting 2024 full face. this is what we're now confronting today, and it's been settled. it began with the,

with the conspiracy hoax back in 16 but, and then we saw the, the, the hoax again on, on 100 biden's, a laptop and 2020, which turned out to be true. and now we're seeing this nonsense all over again. and the timing is impeccable and it's to be expected. it's almost that. and as long as the, and it's all for the democrats, just try and stay in power and maintain control. and this is and, and, and this is all that they need and all that they want. they want to control all the mechanisms of power and government. and that's why they don't have to come up and make america better or, or make the world better. that's why they don't have any platforms. they don't have any policies, issues, it's all, but it's open retrograde it's up and degraded rather than improved upon in this country and. and now that we have an open border, we've punched holes in the, in the bottom of our ship. and it's thinking, yeah, well, larry, i mean, even on the face of it, why not have russia gate 3 uh,

3 point now because no one was held account for the 1st version known withheld account for the 2nd version. so why not do the 3rd? i mean, there's no down side by continuing the hopes. yeah. but i, i found some good news yesterday when the house for the 1st committee released his report on the, the debacle of the united states withdrawing from afghanistan. they didn't blame russia. i saw, i thought, wow, there's an approved web. pope shack i thought. yeah. so the sort of another, you know, you know, the, oh, just the number one corporate. but yeah, you know, this, it's remarkable. you know, we know because of the wiki lights that brett, the dallas ski. i know brent or of at least had conversations with him a back in 2015 with john podesta, the hillary clinton campaign manager,

that they exchanged emails about how they were going to use the relationship quote between donald trump and vladimir putin as a club to be trump with now this was early on, so they, you know, it was good, good, totally contrive. and what the irony, the other day watching mary garland and christopher races are talking about russia meddling and the election when the only approval meddling in the presidential elections is the us department of justice. the central intelligence. exactly. and, and the f, b i, you know, and along with corporate media, you know, that's, we've got that right. it's a fact. and yet here they are again, trying to resurrect this corpse. yeah. but tyler, what do we need to make because i'd be continuing with larry was saying here, i mean, every time they, they throw up the rush at the gate hugs. it's the intelligence community that are doing that. so they're the ones. i mean, this, this latest one and dining these 2 russians, which will never be in the, in,

or an american court then will be never any kind of discovery. nothing is going to happen. i don't even think they're going to move on this. it, it was just, it's part of the 2 months, but. busy or the election, they're going to drop it maybe to add to it or be a, have a separate one. but these are just a points on a white board. go ahead, tyler. it's also there's also a legal way to smear those. and they want to smear, frankly, because they know that they can issue an indictment that will never be challenged. they did this indeed with the original russia gate hoax, whatever. going to call it the g r u agents that were indicted by molar and his, his crew of mercenaries, legal mercenaries, and, and the roger stone was roped into having the judge that he did preside over his case by being called a related case to his because so supposedly overlapping warrants, which is a complete bunk, was allies to buy the corrupt prosecutors involved. and what happens, i think, you know, ultimately how many times can they beat this horse, what they do every time they come out with these, these,

these fantastic attempts at last there and to manipulate the elections and manipulate public opinion as to expose themselves and expose the intelligence fingerprints, all over american politics, which i think most americans are poor and in a never been willing to tolerate that. i'm that i know of that mean it's good to see a buy charter is supposed to be the only involved in the foreign affairs and foreign nations. they've turned it in words they've, you know, the operation mockingbird is we know, you know, is real in the corporate, fascist the media. and, you know, i say i don't use fashion slightly. i mean these, this is the, this is the union of massively wealthy corporate us concentrated wealth and corporate interest merged with the state. where one hand wash is the other and you know, this is what we were up against. but, you know, with, with a communist flare to it in the sort of the demagogues at the time. yeah, well that's what we're taught. we're calling this program lib. lib. lib mccarthyism . and that's what it is, michael. before we go to the break here, the people, the, the people, the cure rate, these hoaxes they, they have to be

a little mindful that if there is a new administration and renewed a party in under a former president that they might take a look into all of this year, that's something that they should be fearful of. michael. well, i think trump, after this experience, in his 1st term, if he's re elected, he know he now knows how, how deep to dig. and believe me, it's very deep in this deep state. we have you, i remember when carter came in, he fired the top echelon as of a c, a some 800 c i a agents right off the back and, you know, and he, he just clean house. i think trump is going to have to clean house and it's going to create a tremendous rupture in this country and really upset the state, but it's got to be done. it's just got, it'd be done and it's, and he's got to do it. that's where it's at the, at the political levels of that and, and also a lot of the se, yes, is that,

that have become, well, i probably, i, i have a theory, gentleman is that if he is re elected, he may be in peach before he is a knock you rated, i have 15 the larry that would take, take a swing at that one because it's not impossible. no, no, this is the deep state is threatened by donald trump for the simple fact. he does need their money. that what we're talking about that's going out of washington. d. c. is a griffith campaign. everybody gets to come in and get wealthy. that happened to dick cheney happen, and brock obama happened to bill clinton. but the truck didn't need the money. that's why he's a danger and a threat to him. well, and so, so i would say he's also assembled sort of, he's been in a gathering force or a gathering point for all the people who are opposed to this. i mean, i refer you to mike. yeah. because that we have holidays. yeah. but we have we have rob, rob, a robert f kennedy junior. yeah, it is very interesting. coalition being developed, gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on free speech state without

the hi, i'm acceptable and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show. seriously. why watch something that's so different opinions that he won't get anywhere else. welcome to please do the have the state department c i a weapons makers, multi 1000000000 dollar corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead. change and whatever you do. don't want my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you comfortable. my show is called stretching time, but again,

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the the, you know, tyler in the over the last few weeks. and, you know, i've been filed in on this program. we've been covering extensively with the ukraine project in the genocide in, in gaza. but there's, there's one thing that always kind is that there's one inflection point when you, when you talk about all of these issues. russia gate, uh, 3 point though, and it's really all about the nature of speech and right before our eyes, all of us on this program. and all of our viewers were watching slowly, as if it's a frog and a boiling pot, where we go from freedom of speech is a right. and they're trying to convince us that it's only a privilege. look at the headlines and the new york times and the washington post of wall street journal about the constitution is the constitution is the threat. not. you know that they're telling us our institutions are threatening us and we need moderation. we made moderation from basically addict a territorial center. go ahead,

tyler talk about that translation that we're watching before ons. yes, i hate to have to say this, but you know, for the record, my opinions are my own and i am independent, loyal americans, and i've never been paid a dime to appear on any of any. uh, any of these shows. um to the extent i have but i, i will say you mentioned these the title of the shows the ser, lived mccarthyism. let me say something you know, mccarthy was right. i mean what was mccarthy against you? does against the infiltration of our government by communists and unfortunately, you know, i think that's exactly what we're seeing today. and the effects of today is the, you know, the destruction of the constitution and our core rights. i mean, they call it mccarthy as i'm but you know, joe mccarthy, you might have gone a little too far. you know, trusting roy cohn and those tactics. but he was frankly, the victim of a stan, pete of people who were covering up for people like alger is. and we're bashing whittaker chambers who were communists, who would read sympathizers, not russia sympathize, just to communist sympathizers. and that's what we have. we have it with a 5th,

allan, most of just completely read should a constitutional anti constitutional totalitarian, subversives who are, are intent on, on subjugating this country and removing the only free beacon in the world. you know, that upholds or is it least on the face of it and as an attempt to do and the people believe in human rights and civil rights. and certainly what like sports. like tyler, tyler, we're losing the, the world talks about freedom of speech because of the 1st amendment of the american constitution. that's where we get it from. and it's always measured. you, we, you know, because i had to prep it so many times, the creative a speech is defined differently around the world, particularly the western world. but it's the 1st amendment of the united states. that's what everyone uses the gold standard of where you are left to right of it up or down. okay, that's why it's so important. i'm agreeing with you. you know michael descent is

being re, is being re classified as a crime. and if you question foreign policy, your trade or how do we get here it's, it's been evolving. i think a lot of it had to do with the neo conservatives. i, i, it happened to me personally at the defense department when i objected to the, to a 2003 invasion of iraq showing that there was no w. m. d. and i was kicked out. and if you were not a team player, you didn't play along and, and we've seen this in back embodied in our foreign policy ever since. now we have new liberals in this country who, who basically want to defend the minority, but that, but, but at the same time, to destroy what the majority has. and this is, this is what we're seeing today. a current in this country and, and, and the majority of the people recognize the us constitution is traditions, it's family values,

and it's now being integrated. and even our history is trying to be corrupted by and, and destroyed with even our statues. and what have you, as an outer outer display of all that. but the, the fundamental thing is that now we are seeing today, with, with, with, with our, with our officials. all democrats, the, the fact that they are telling us what the sake we are. we are instructed in effect rather than letting the light in us see and, and believe what we want to believe based upon what we're seeing ourselves yet. and they're telling us don't believe what you slim. what only believe micheal, what they're from us, what they're saying is, is drank the kamala kool aid and, and, and feel the joy, feel the joy. okay, that's good. it's all, i'm not feeling the drive. i, i'm sure that's why you came on this program. that's why people watch this program in larry. dick cheney, i guess it's gonna support kamala harris here. i mean, what else do we need to know? i mean,

but that's it. that's kind of book ends. a lot of the discussion we've had since 2003 that the michael mentioned here is, is that, you know, we, we talk about the unit party, but now they don't even need the, the g o p. i mean because the g o p is investigating the democratic party go ahead larry, for the training is invalid matic of what has gone wrong in washington dc. so he got his 1st job and 1972 working for a close. dear friend of mine, bruce bradley at bradley woods and bruce used to play a racket ball with don rumsfeld, the servant of bruce's a congressional staff for 1964 and run some run me called him up today. i got to show a guy needs a job. oh no. here's cheney this arch conservative. who refused to serve in vietnam . and 1972. he was, he was still a partly little fat guy. did the 2 martini launches, smoke 3 packs of cigarettes, and now that he becomes qualified to become chief of staff. the gerald ford stays

in washington dc and becomes a senior member of halliburton and becomes wealthy, having done what, having home around washington dc. and basically could the perfect to the art of what i called political fellatio and then which, which is a very common activity in washington dc these days it is, it's, it's a, it takes and says to a new level. and as a result of that, you know, and michael can that i think it tested as i moved to dc in the 1979. there weren't any lamborghini ferrari, bentley, automobile dealerships, it was not a place of great wealth. now it is. and the only thing that explains it is this corruption that it has nothing to do with being republican or being democrats. it has to do with this corrupt system that, you know, i, during the cold war, i remember we used to make fun of the soviet union for being cropped up. the soviet

union were piker is compared to what washington dc is today. well, and plus larry, i mean, and war is the best business you can be in. i mean it's, it's really extraordinary. you know, tyler talking about speaking truth. but i could remember from the very beginning when boris johnson went in and scheduled the possible p piece process. a weeks after the special military operation, the russia started in ukraine and the whole process was going on and assemble. and then boris johnson came and scheduled it, and i remember talking about it on this program in real time when it was happening . and people scoffed it, me. oh, this is a, this is propaganda. you're making it all up. but then in the last new cycle, we had victoria new and essentially validated, i can tell you the number of stories we did in real time on this program. they were just missed out of hand. and then 6 months, 9 months, a year later, it's in the new york times, your thoughts? well,

you weren't allowed or you mentioned 1972. that's when joe biden was elected that i'm spending from delaware. so i had the displeasure of having him is by senator for decades. but we had prior to that era was what the word was called, the wise man, we had dean acheson, we had a young john, j mcroy. robert loved it, george jeff keen and you know, men who were actually thinkers who uh, knew abraham and, and, and were able to conduct foreign policy and to actually have a coherent american centric view of the world in the foreign policy. and people like this, there's the training and 70 to like change either the pin new version of this. frankly, their, their grubby little little, uh, no power seekers. and what they've blown up with grown up around them as their, their enterprises consistently begun to fail. and along with the use of the welfare and the welfare state is beyond the fail, we've seen them resort to more collaborative and collaborative and authoritarian

tactics. and it's just becoming more and more of a, a fait accompli that they are so weak in they have no idea ology. the algae is self service and power and, and the, and other programs are failures. so what are they gonna do? they're just going to 1st everybody to, to accept them as they are all powerful leaders. and the american people aren't gonna stand for it. i mean, it, it may not be the selection of minute one after that, but these people are going to be elected eventually. but this is what this tells us, michael. and it's something a theme that i've been doing ever since the advent of this program. 15 years going on gentleman, this program has been on air for 15 years. and it's a nice um, but you know, it really is like, it's getting down to just the powerful against the power list. forget republican democrats, you know, all of these, the, these and, but this lexicon nonsense that they keep throwing at us. but it's people that have power, they can punish those that don't have it. it's as simple as that. now michael, well, this is what we're saying this, this, this, it promises my, my opening comments about the, the, the,

the double speak them in the big brother. attitude that we're now seeing uh, being invoked by the, by the, by the ministration and, and, and obama before, i'm it all started and then, and then uh, web, a nice in our, our own legal system in order for them to stay in power in. definitely. and this is what they're working on. i'm waiting for that october surprise. okay. uh, from the run, the democrats, because it's going to be coming and it's not going to be fun. and then we're going to be suffering as a consequence. ok, let's let me, let me ask all 3 of you. well, we have the time, larry, what do you think the october surprise could be lee in what area? of the i think we're we're going to get involved with a war yet. i'm not sure. i'm not sure who we're going to hit, but i, i bet would be it would be more likely a ron as opposed to russia. tyler, what do you think? i or god forbid we would have some domestic nuclear event or something of earth

shattering that would you know cause because for suspending the election or who knows what i mean, you know, if they're desperate enough to think they're going to lose, i've been say is, oh power grid attack the islanders and don't, don't assume there's going to be an election here. michael. last where it goes to you. yeah, i think we're gonna see probably a combination of a war uh with a with that netanyahu and expanding into 11 on and the combined with, uh, uh, probably rush of a really clamping down on ukraine and its, and its going to, uh, and the gonna that this administration is done to try to use that as a, as a case for staying in office because they, you can't abandon the commanders in chief and war to. okay. well, this is turning into a program of people that need to have a really strong got about politics here gentlemen. that's all the time we have one of the thing my guess in denver, tampa, and in resident. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us the your are decent, see next time. remember

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