[000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the is not a question of allowing the ukrainian regime to strike russia with these weapons or not. that is a question of deciding whether or not a native country could be directly involved in the military conflict. a lot of important ones made it totally against allowing kids to use high position, long range weapons against the wall. the cold weather is got down as a polish for administrative problems, the latest victim of the term, washer, and fund dog. and he's tricky to receiving his happiness at the destruction of the north spring quad line from the way we feel about it, whoever they did,

did they did a good job and we now know that the americans had advance notice of it. yeah, then the russia as far administrator as you create a for, for team terrorists from syria and then the cab to feel it dwindling. i received information that ukrainian emissaries, emissaries of ukrainian intelligence are located into it. liberty escalation zone on the territory of the syrian air. republics are recruiting job hotness, run military. the weather is, is our team to national, reaching you from our new center with moscow. i a michael caught you up with the updates and put it in the headset if key i was allowed to use long range weapons destroyed deep into russia. it would mean the direct involvement of nato and the

war. for this, there is an attempt to substitute concept an appointment because we are not talking about allowing or forbidding the key of regime to strike out territory sheets already does best with the help of drones and other means. but when we are talking about the use of precision weapons and long range western made weapons, it is a completely different story. the fact is that i have already mentioned this and any expert to confirm it both in our country and in the west. the ukrainian army is incapable of striking with modern western may at long range precision systems. it can only do that by using intelligence from satellites, which you frame does not have. they get the data only from the use of the lights, or from the united states in general from natal satellite. that's the 1st thing. the 2nd and very important thing. maybe the key one is that the flight emissions and these missile systems you've scanned, in fact, and then you put it only by nato military personnel, ukrainian service men cannot do this out of it. so it's not

a question of allowing the ukrainian regime to strike pressure with these weapons or not. you know, it is a question of deciding whether or not a native country could be directly involved in the military conflict. if this decision is made, it will mean nothing else but the direct participation of nato countries, the united states murphy and countries in the war in ukraine. this is the direct participation means that then this already, of course, significantly changes the very essence of the very nature of the conflict. it wouldn't mean that nato countries, the united states, european countries, are at war with russia. and if that is the case, then having in mind the change in the very essence of this conflict, we will take appropriate decisions based on the threats that will be presented to us. yeah. meanwhile, the us secretary of state and police for administer molding over their current restrictions on ukraine using their weapons. and that's a major key of pushing washington to authorize. long range strikes, deep into roster and directory hold on his top diplomatic voice to support for the

us messages initiative. fighting the i'd like to threaten from russia use a fall on the spot. this bending over 4 percent of g d p on defense. this is really the gold standard among nato countries. and of course, it hosts thousands of us and allied forces as low as i was telling totally produce that space is regularly breached by russian drugs. in miss ella's last year, a russian christmas. so traveled through the 2 sides of portland and landed 10 kilometers from my house. so i believe we should do something about it preempt. early i discussed the issue of a potential why the conflict between nato and russia with a panel of guests. the country is at war with the us and, and russia helps them to strike us territory. i think that was not the discussion with a rush as part of this was. so i think i think the west is already active part of the war for a long time because from international law,

and we have this from the exports of the shipment from the start of the german problem and even sharing intelligence data, operate of data and toes data is already participation of the war. in my point of view of this present regime in washington, once an escalation because they out, in my sense, very afraid of the you elections where come all that harris has hardly a chance to get the president and with the government from regaining the white house. it means that many criminal elements in the united states will face the criminal charges and to these, what may sometimes call the deep state is very scared of this. so they could be, it could be that they try to escalate the ukraine was to declare, mos in law and with martial law, they could get around an election. but i doubt that this will work out if the rest is risking this escalation. um, i'm afraid there might be

a russian reaction with which the west doesn't like and then we have cut me really into it. and it really process of, of escalation steps and whether we try to weigh out before the there. well, i'm think people would happen. i don't know the really the west chester thing, whether it's worth to risk a world war real hard world war because of all these questions we have for you. um, attacking rush, it was a long range west of weapons, which technically pushing us right wouldn't be managed and programmed by we're by west of atlanta. so just it's, i think, a step which is, yeah, the final one at which the, the russians were, the russians will react with what they didn't do until now. ok. all right, let me come to you not just need to part in the so called peace, somebody in switzerland area the which did not include russia now, but now shots of the shoals is calling for renewed efforts to end this conflict.

and this 5 move 60 on mosque both involvement, the discussions why the southern change in buttons argued here. i mean, on our shelves and with his foreign minister, another in a bad book, who is not the most diplomatic uh, skilled person in the world. they have smashed so many doors close to, i mean this is ridiculous that they, that they tried to do this. no, but i think it's just desperation that the minute they know the wars basically over they can't really win anything anymore. the next step will be an unconditional surrender off the ukraine, e i, the nato. and this one is what they're facing. and this is what they are somehow desperately tried to, to avoid earlier a police foreign minister by tribes from his vow to support you create minutes really. and that's when the he reveals to the roster. the bronx task about was to actually has 0 willingness to fight the russia, you know,

we're discussing at the moment. um, the shooting down of russian crews themselves over your ass space from a space you know, without entering into your territory. and even that, at this stage is very, very controversial. and there is no agreement for that because it wouldn't be joining the wall if you grade if the front started to collapse, things might change. but at the moment there is 0 willingness to do that. i have to tell you, i mean, we all think these scenarios, right? but yeah, we, you know, we don't want to confirm what the, the idea of and coaching and the russian propaganda has been saying. all the atari is a russian promised. as the police for administer revealing or on a whole host of issues with all the details here his article, my, my, you know, just to give you a little bit of background, these famous

a russian pranksters volva, and alexis usually do public figures and to talking to them by imitating various officials. now this time they chose to imitate former ukrainian president pewter porto single. so naturally was those top diplomats felt a comfortable enough and confident to talk about certain issues. what do you think about north street too? so not seen through the trying to the trying to accuse us of this problem. but oh, wow. wow. you know, a lot from the way we feel about it. whoever did it did, they did a good job a fight. and we now know that the americans had advanced knowledge of it. yeah, ended up it's, as we've just heard, he mentioned there that washington had advanced knowledge on the north through

pipeline sabotaged, but chose to ignore it. and on top of that, his trust that full and seems to be quite happy about the whole situation. i mean, right after the explosions administer himself tweeted, thank you usa, which he deleted after maybe in hopes not this. there's some sort of diplomatic crisis, but we can see here in this conversation that he's still laughing about it because in his thoughts, it was a private conversation. now in this 30 minutes long uh, talk. uh he did talk a lot about your rate and he said that he was upset that you plane was not willing to send its citizens to the front lines earlier. we was very surprised that the um the, the mobilization was uh the, the, the decision on mobilization was taking so long um and we are ready to help with encouraging your citizens in programs to help defend the

problem. yeah, we have sending those who break the law in portland, we send them back. and secondly, secondly, we need ukraine to tell us exactly what ukraine wants us to do with the ukranian citizens in the european union. so well, you know, we don't want you great and citizens to start moving around the use searching for the best deal and it should be a problem. you repeat them decision. so for example, um there was an idea that those who avoid the draft should not get social security payments. all right. it's episode to right, i agree with you. what i think is correct, which i think is correct. you know, people should not be paid for being dropped doses. so this comes a mid hundreds of videos, surface and online showing ukrainian authority is essentially dragging people up the street and forcefully sending them to the front lines. however,

when it comes to peace negotiations, he says that he's afraid that he thinks that ukraine might be committed a mistake if it decides to listen to the piece formulas that are being presented by the global. so i thought you made a mistake and i told you not to do it when you entered into the norm and the formula, when he then ended, then transmogrified into the mens formula. because the previous formula geneva was russia, you pray us, you, which i think it'd be better if you and i am afraid that the lensky made make the same mistake. in other words, get into a formula over which you praise, loses control, you know, 140 countries. again, telling the russians to withdrawal. and i don't think it will work. i don't think good you is stuff is susceptible tomorrow pressure. yeah. and, and in,

in the process of attracting as many countries as, as possible, your demands might be diluted and may be managed by other countries. what impress the south africa or india or brazil have in the board is of ukraine. now he did emphasized though that the us will continue aging ukraine militarily, no matter what. but in fact, the minister even expose that he did talk to trump's people, as he said. and according to him, trump has a plan to a threat and puts in with the escalation in order to get the federal better deal for ukraine. i think that the old resolution of this war will be found will be found on the front bustle from, from land may be helped by the united states, you know,

the united states interest and yours another identity coal. but they know that that crib credibility is at stake. um so you know, either this administration or the next cons sale you down the river because that would affect the credibility. visa v o america's allies. we can get on to in the us only because you know that the next president could be worse than this one. i talked to trump's people and they tell us, you know, we didn't know what time to really do what, but what they're telling us is that from florida threatened coaching with escalation in order to get a better deal. i mean, if you listen to the conversation in full, he really did not keep anything and he expose a lot more than expected. i mean from the north stream pipeline to the way pull and that lease feels towards the global south. no, of course,

so far polish authorities have yet to comment on the conversation. a lawyer had the member of the old tentative for the job. the party going to back believes that the minister has revealed exactly what the west has been thinking on how to get away with leading a proxy war against russia. mr. sikowski was quite explicit and i think quite lucid. in explaining the situation. he says that if the u. s. is a positioning big, long range massage of either job or the all pay to talk elsewhere. these other countries have the storage of these weapons, but they don't have control over them. i think it's pretty much in line with the attitude taken by most west and governments. they're willing to increase at age to ukraine. they're willing to train you crazy and soldiers, but they want to ukraine to do the fighting. so it's a kind of proxy role. ukraine will suffer, most of the law says and the west is prop picking it up

a militarily in financially, but not sending troops because that will be too unpopular uh at home. and it will be as may be a major step. uh, marking the uh, escalation at all that conflict, possibly a spotless spiraling out of control, and they are as yet still willing, still intent on preventing that. so they want a localized conflict going on for as long as possible with ukraine taking the front of it. while ukraine is recruiting militants from syria to swell its rhymes, that's according to rochester for many steps. and the setting was the repeat of a practice key of has already adopted in deployed in africa. i say it's just just elizabeth, really i received information that ukrainian emissaries,

emissaries of ukrainian intelligence are located in the live de escalation zone on the territory of the syrian air republic are recruiting job hot news run militants . they used to be called that. and now they are called high yacht tie here all shops. they are doing this in order to involve them and their new plans and the various operations. let's not forget that they are already casting their gaze further south to the harris to help zones of the african continent where they also carry out terrorist attacks on the government armed forces together with recruited extremes, surgery lever of the senior diplomats of mine who at the very top of government knows what's going on, not just a real shift around the world talks a lot of people very respected sort. gala ross tells us that this is happening, it's happening. and he says that you find in special services are actively involving radical islam. this in the conflict a new frame and they'll swear it's not an isolated case. and it comes after reports, not just in russian media. i mean after crow, cuz there was a huge debate about who these people were now. these groups were talking about in

the middle east, apparently different we believed and the group involved in the crow, this attacks. we also know that the g, or, or ukrainian military intelligence were intimately involved in funding at the crocus attack and brutal attack, which i witnessed firsthand that the attackers were detained. remember, and debris on squeezing a russian heading south towards the ukrainian border. and what we know about what is happening now with this delegation that has been sent according to a sort of a lover of emissaries have been, you know, the spikes from g, f, a to eat live a hot bed of islam is in, in a, syria, the contract boy, isn't his terror if you like, for a well over a decade in the fight against the president, besides a legitimate government and that weapons for the release of harris, what we believe is the british and american weapons that need a weapons essentially have been offered in return for the release of key fighters,

george and fighters, iraqi fighters syrian fighters. the radicalism is to take part in the conflict against portion of we also know that these people have been fighting a solution forces or a lie to the president decide. so they know what these guys are do. these are very, very professional fighters if you like. so it's a very serious escalation for the front line, for the ukrainian forces is collapsing, rush, it keeps making me enormous progress that but now is as the freight forces are collapsing, morales in the time t f is resorting to recruiting terrors. what's that? who are these terrorist that key is trying to get his hands on? well, they're a very loosely affiliated group of people very heavily in full try to be know as well by western intelligence groups. and lots of questions to ask about how did outcry to even come about how to do it exists. yeah. what have you, some of them based out of saudi arabia? very radicalism scripts at tough. we're alshaun is the, the latest incarnation of the name. you can always just case we get all use as we

get the all you says your add another one. i'll news, i'll call you to, i'll lose that being specifically ingrained in the conflict in, in syria. so there are very amorphous group of people. uh, they claim attacks from loan attackers from, from europe to asia, to the me, least they can claim and attack. it's hard to clarify if they're actually directly involved. for example, the rece, the types in germany, the inclusivity of festival was claimed by all kind of and also by all he says, we believe. and so a very amorphous group of people, books are the definition intelligence linked to the west. but what, what about the reports of all of some of these minutes and so operating in africa, there's a link here also to, to the wagner soldiers as well. right? yeah, absolutely. i mean, we, we absolutely notice to be true at that ukraine has allied with is list groups terrace in africa. in molly, in particular, we seen said documentary evidence on actual admissions from ukrainian officials

that their celebrating attacks on the mahdi and government forces which are upholding the legitimate government which assistant russian forces from the wagner group. we've seen them a lot each, an open the allied with the poor, a group of the 2 or a group are also a light in turn fit very in a fair use and dangerous western intel link groups as well. so this is just again, it's very import, this is just reports out of russia. it's also, you know, the ukrainians themselves admitting this, which is exceptionally important. it's how the listen. bishop of the fact that the rebels received the necessary information that allows them to conduct a successful alteration against russian war criminals. that's the home world has already seen this in principle. this can be commended on we certainly will not disclose any details, but let's say there will be a continuation. i mean, if that isn't the admission, i'm not sure why it is so taken in the context of the desperate situation. debacle

. feels situation on the ground. this talk of escalation is talk of as striking, deep into russia. it seems you're kind of getting more and more desperate to inflict any kind of suffering. we are predominantly on the, the civilian population of russia. early of my colleagues more i'd have mom we spoke with for by us on the office us. that is live a copy of a coup set of the revelations from russia stop development k, you must nickel surprise to him. in 2022. i've seen videos that came out with uh, as long as you had a fighters fighting in ukraine against the russian forces. speaking airbags us showing all the similar symbols. and by the way, these were the people that also then created the floor weapons out of ukraine. so this was not a surprise, washington create and monitoring is lama jihad, a modern islamic terrorism they created and again, a stance. the u. s. has its hands and almost every single conflict around the world . one degree and other is also not a surprise. the you a shuffles,

it's various as long as you hot us. it's very is not see a group surround to help each other where they need to is also not a surprise. it shouldn't be a surprise anyway. do you think uh, yeah, of and the washington have told us about this. i mean could sometimes be returning to syria and tears groups without us knowledge. absolutely not. us controls these group 3 or 4 for these we for doing. and he wouldn't have been able to get into these groups and get and have that level of affordability that he needs to be able to work with these groups. and hardy's, the use of absolutely not knows what's going on. it's, it's the same thing of ukrainian special forces, even though there's a war going on that they're supposedly taking part. they show up in modeling the fight against the government, but the us wants to remove. so helping these, why would you, how to stop fighting tamale uh, government troops surprised before surprise washer. and shuffles, these guys the same thing as what happened and began to stand as washington was

losing against the taliban. all of a sudden deal or insults, or whatever they want to call themselves before it shows up and have dentist then people are that no size of the understand had never been of guess a something they show up there. how hypocritical is this? when just yesterday had the 911 collaborations today, we're hearing that was a lensky with the permission. or at least with the knowledge of the united states. it's on recruiting terrorism. i mean, what kind of tactics all these? there's a typical washer and tactics before 911, washington use the islamic jihad, us as it need. let's not forget checking here. let's not forget to wars. the civil war is basically in rockford, called church. and you want to chechnya through the reason when church, you have to broke out that the church and people are running north into the hands of the federal forces because they're trying to get away from terrace. they're running chechnya, the watch energy through uh, republic of georgia and the chevron lived at a point. and then on the 2nd street and i was there is

a military advisor in 2002. and again in 2003 in georgia. they were pumping in islamic jihad, us from across the world terminology jersey and was given a stamp on the visa and they were going right across the, into church here at the southern chest. you had no problem and they have watching those backings the washer. and as use terrorism conservation for 19 seventies. if not the 1960, it is hypocritical. but in the eyes of washington, cited for critical in the eyes of people like blinking and sullivan in the eyes of people like bolton. these are just tools to use to destroy the enemies that they've chosen for the big international affairs and security analysts marks level to believes that kia has been cooperating with do you had us for a long time without haven't brought success on the battlefields? i don't think it's going to change the body of the situation on the battlefield at all. i'm not sure that the camera dream thing saves will either. it's just the sign of desperation, but all of this is actually not new at all. and the western press has been in full

acknowledgment for years. the average human ukraine has long recruited jihad as. 5 of august and as long as 6 traction to fight, not just russia, but previously from 2014, up until 2022 in the ukrainian civil conflict. unfortunately, it's not just the key. every shame, the west itself has had this practice for years. and if you take a wider look at us practices, they employed death, squads, right wing dest squads in central and south america. jihad is from libya to syria, to afghanistan, as. 1 back as the 19 seventy's and eighty's it is, it is their practice. that is again what the us does. they pay a popular ties as the breed. so this is nothing new. the rest of the world as

well aware of this. and this is why in this particular situation, you see when russia is finally standing up to the us, as jill political machinations and you grade, you see pretty much the rest of the world outside of the west. is, is in full recognition of the facts and therefore, refusing to go along with the us. dig todd's in the minds of, of, with the economic war of sanctions on russia with arms for the average human ukraine. because they are aware of the hypocrisy of this 5 key of actually blowing any piece folks with moscow. it's not urging new delhi to do more to convince russia to sit on the negotiating table. if the only way ahead is diplomacy and dialogue, india can't be just a post box, indio should use its position and relations with russia to convince moscow of the

need to take part in peace talks. then you create a bad division. you, denny has been giving interviews to the milk or perhaps in fact, he's also going on to see that in the show to play a more active role in and being born degree. and if it was a permanent seats at the u. n. s c, which it seems because india has always opened about how india does not take sides of the board and how we do, does one worked with that? of course on its own stars. this is almost like you read is food. and conditionality is there. in fact, even russia has always insisted, in fact, mister fulton, several weeks ago said that in one small bodies in building in the us to come forward and negotiate these spots. russia has the conditions, so the, the, to the and the channel are you creating always when it comes to india has been a somewhat strange. remember when india was in law school again. so lensky said

1000 mr. movies was it to our, to russia was a huge disappointment. so it's oh, horton cold, sort of a sort of why is that ukraine is giving doing the scoring. but one must remember that india is a monster. very few nations which have an open lines of communication, both with russia and ukraine and then does quote india as of now at a more powerful position to negotiate fees if the india wants to do it. and of course india, a member has repeatedly said india jewel, political messaging has been very clear that india has on will not support the war . we do remember for our minister. and the reason will these words from a, from, can in fact speak of song when dogs uh for the s c o summit, where he's going on to say that this norton is all more having said that in the

house, i'm going to again said it's via to rated it's position that of us and you shouldn't have this particular conflict there. i'll show you print war can not be found on the back of the you that can be only found to dialogue and diplomacy. something that j shankar in does extend defense minister recently again said in his was a to joe. so we do think that negotiations are the only way forward. then there is discussion. we also think it is essential to have russia in it. otherwise, the discussions don't you know, gain for the moment and with, in the eyes consent, you know, i think it's up to what the 2 parties want. we continuously talk to them. in fact, bob showed real bad that the national security adviser just went to my school in