are we still have some common ground? the the the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . when it comes to american presidential debates, the winter is often in the eye of the beholder and the bar is lowered today. both trump and harris couldn't claims they didn't lose the debate. that was the needle moved the cross talking the trump harris debate. i'm joined by my guest garland nixon in washington. he's a political animals in columbus. we have missy winston. she is an activist and host

of action for a size and in miami we cross to entry wong. she is a miami executive district committee. woman or a gentlemen and ladies across stock rolls in effect. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated, let me go to miss the 1st step because carl and diane have a little bit of an advantage of you ladies on this program cuz we're just a lot older. okay, so let's see, and i, i watch the garlands input after this. you know, i've been watching presidential debate since 1976 do the math so you can figure out how old i am. ok. but, and this, the, that was something very, very different. develop this debate than any other presidential bait. what was it um, well i would say that uh, i can't really think of much difference. there was really no substance. that was really nothing that um, i mean it was interesting to me because i felt like uh, there was definitely a setup where uh, at the moderators were certainly a little one sided or a little the little bit. but i don't think that's surprising to anyone. i think

that that was probably expected. i think it, we've seen the way in debates past that they've been leading in that direction, depending on who the moderators are. of course, if you have that, you know, fox news moderator them, they tend to maybe be slightly more fair or lean a little more trump, but i think that it is definitely obviously these moderators were leaning a little heavy in favoritism towards coming here. well, yes, thank i mean, garland, i think it one point the moderator was good to ask the question, then answer the question for harris. i mean, this was so blatant, i mean, i wish i'm and i'm not taking sides. okay. i'm disappointed with both candidates. i'm disappointed with american politics in general. this is the best they can find . this is really incredible here, but the, the, the sense of justice, the sense of injustice, garland in this debate. yeah, i think that, um, what we had was donald trump was in an argument with the moderators and every now and then. um campbell harris would interrupt the argument that he was having mostly with david. and i think, you know, interestingly enough, i think that was

a dynamic that a lot of people picked up. i've heard that discussions, and i think that something that probably was of value to to, to, to donald trump. i think it also, oddly enough health to cement his argument that he's an outside or which isn't difficult, you know, a difficult argument for a guy who's been president to make. but when the whole system, every thing was leaning against donald trump. i think if you're sitting there watching it, you're the people who already kind of had an inclination to think that donald trump was an outside or the system didn't want him. are going to see that in that particular dynamic. and i think i, interestingly enough, i think it helps donald trump, you know, answer yeah, that's a really interesting observation because ever since the debate probably still a gone going now is that it's the media that is being polled about the result. the media is deciding who is the winner and loser, and i don't really care what they think because it's always a default position to the establishment. and obviously,

kamala harris is the vessel for the, for the establishment today. but they do, do you think it will percolate down? i mean, a lot of people watched it angie. oh yeah. how the world watched it. and here's the thing. what we saw was the prosecutor and the defendant, that night is very good and they play very well into those will come out. harris knew exactly what trigger words she to say to get trouble completely on the defense for pretty much 85 percent of the entire program. and he, for some reason, wasn't well trained enough to actually notice that. so he felt right into it. he spent the entire show of defending him. so i'm glad you called in. i'm on. let's see entry, i'm glad you called the show because that's exactly what it was. keep going. yeah, no, i mean once you scripted a small, harris was very well trained. she's stuck to the sped, she stopped 1st talking points, and ultimately what i saw and all the mag a talking, what i saw was someone who can actually compete with donald trump,

which we had yet to see of his entire election. she could stand up to that man and tall, not only with him, but not him. and i think a lot of that happened that was here talking at him. and so you bring up a really good point. i was gonna go to it later. but since you mentioned it, i'd like to ask you, what is the difference between donald trump in 2016 in 2024 a little i was hoping that you would know of a by who it was. you know, you had a split screen of, of 2 present presidential candidates who looked like the commander in chief. he already had that going for him, but now she really stepped it up. and certainly the ac producers helped her elevate, right? everything from the camera angles. you only saw a side profile of her for and most of the program which i thought was quite interesting. and the leveled up their shoulders. i mean, all of it was to position her so, so she does definitely have to like, what's the difference? donald trump, he, i know what happened,

but he went into rag mego rally donald trump, i, i on the bass. yeah. and i didn't want to hear that he did not know his audience and his staff did not trained him well for that. he thought he was going to be joe joe biden. 2 point oh, that's not what he got. yeah, i mean, carl, and i've said, i said it a few months ago, you know, considering the, the campaign that the trumpet people are running. i mean, the less the says the better that's in my opinion, that's what strategies opinion here. i'm sorry, i mean, go to miss the here right now. let's think one of the things that we found. some, i think the risk, the democratic party completed its re branding during that debate because now it's the party of the neo cons. it's a party of the deep state. it's the party of mega donors. i mean, this is the, the final rebranding of it. and joe biden was just an irritant to it because he was just a stubborn person. i have to watch my language here, but it's,

it seems to me the re branding is complete your thoughts? yeah, i would say that that's probably pretty accurate. i think at this point they have sort of slow walk that progression, i think, amongst their base i think the obviously would've been something that they could sell overnight. i think it's something that they've had to really kind of lead their holding base into. i think you're at mean it, it started long. it really started with bill clinton, i think. but i think really obama was very effective and starting to shift that very dramatically. and i think after obama, they really just had a couple tweaks to make here in there. and i think humble harris is now really stealing that deal. yeah, we and carl, and having the democratic nominee and embracing dick cheney, i mean, explained to me what's going on here. well, that's what the party is now in this, this is very much the democratic party having turned into the republican party of george bush of 2006. and that's pretty clear. i do think in the debate that a lot of this stuff was from off. i think the, you know, the, it was flop, it was a lot. there was a lot of talk and there was a, you know, back and forth,

and the moderators and all that. but i do think the, the concrete issues were number one installation. i think number 2 slash in to a, we're going, we're, we're a foreign policy. and immigration, i do think that, you know, donald trump score, i mean he talked about in inflation a bit and that's what's bothering people the most. i do think it was, it was a very, very in a he made some, some powerful statements when he talked about world war 3 and stopping the ukraine war. so, oh, you know, notwithstanding, the punch is that she got in the name calling in the bladder ring and babbling about people eating pets and things of that nature. i think the things that people were listening for wherever they are years per like a german shepherd were inflation you. oh donald trump doesn't what war and she does . yeah. or that that's exactly how i received the envy. you know, i,

a lot of words were said i, i tend to agree with garner let me because a trump was president. oddly enough, he had to defend his record and he didn't criticize enough of the, by the administration. that's kind of a new wants that i thought was interesting. but kamala harris absolutely said nothing for what i could tell other than just expressing a vibe. i mean, i did to be honest with you, i was watching it and i had my ipad right next to me and i lost, i lost, lost interest. and when she was talking, i turned to my i ipad i, i just, nothing was being said, but she was the winner. as a result, apparently, angie. yeah, well you know, that was reset about that the less she talks about her policies, the better it is for her. she doesn't have to commit to it. you know, bernie sanders, sen, bernie sanders of vermont. kind of let it out that the other day that come all harris will do and say anything she has to say to get elected. and i, and that's part of the game. i mean, we're at the very end stretch of

a very critical election here. so she's going to say all those words, so she presents it well. she did not really. uh, she wasn't as shaky as i thought she would be. up until now. we don't really know who kamala harris is. right, and she did do a lot introduce. this is a 1st taste of her for a lot of americans. i think that as far as policy goes, if i were to, i think he had a missed opportunity here. he should said, look, come on harris. you have 50 days left before the election. why don't you go back to washington and do all of those things that you're promising to night to do? yeah, but yeah, and apparently he could have been, i think it could, he could have closed the entire so called debate after harris was asked the 1st question essentially ronald reagan's question, are you better off now than you were 4 years ago? she just completely avoided answering the 1st question. if i had been trump, i would have said, aren't you going to make her answer the question? is that heavy?

yes, that go ahead. garland company, let me throw something in real quick. but what did he say? that was powerful, he said at the end and exposing statement. you've been here for 4 years. the said, all of that stuff. you've been here 3 and a half for years. how come you didn't do any of that stuff? i think that in the closing statement was broke because it made all of those points that what are you back with for now with all these plans you haven't done any of them and i think it made it made the entire point about her a legit new policies, you know, miss a was a, you started off by saying this was a prosecution that i think you're absolutely right. because if you go back forensically and look at the debate. yeah, the trump was given arguments. he wasn't given questions. that didn't happen to harris. everything was argued mentioned go ahead. yeah. go ahead, misty. yeah, of course i think that that's a they know donald trump, then they know exactly how to beat him. and unfortunately,

he felt for every single time he was bated numerous times and he fell for nearly every time. and i think that that is something, as you mentioned, i think he, he really seemed to comment unprepared. i don't know if he was just totally underestimating calmly, harris, which i wouldn't blame him if he did. i think that she has set a very low bar for herself with the word salads in her, you know, creepy, giggling, and all of that stuff. i think she is kind of created this character of herself where she is kind of kind of become a joke. and so i don't know if he just drastically underestimate of her capabilities. but i think that was probably very obviously said that she knew exactly which funds to probably gonna have to go to a break here, but never under estimate your opponent. that's the 1st rule of now it takes it all right, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion of the drum paras debate state without the the

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but very little a time was spent on it and it was very boiler plate and i, i'm critical of donald trump or i'm not going differentiating himself more in allowing the, the deep state narrative to prevail here, but you know, that's, that's one of the reasons why i said, you know, the, the, what we see now is this kind of a lead agend world war 3 is very much in the cards right now. and that's something that i discuss on this program. a lot of kamala harris even said, claims that you wouldn't know us troops are deployed in combat zones. nobody push back on that entry. no. and there was a metric and look, i mean i was disappointed actually at both candidates for that answer. you had donald trump, who could have settled lot, and really wondered kamala harrison. this is that he said, i'm just going to within 24 hours, going to pick up the phone and call up those men and tell him to stop it. i mean that's not, that's his approach. okay. i understand that i would, if i were donald trump, i would have a tap come all harris for trying to have it both ways and that was her response,

right? she was trying to please the jewish base and also the palestinian base as the same time. and we see her do that time and time again. she cannot afford to lose places like minnesota or michigan where there's a huge arab american population. but i is, as donald trump, i would have also talked to her for all the neo cons for days or race like change endless charities, and the military complex. right. but he didn't go there and i that's why i feel like he was a little bit off his game. the donald trump has been campaigning very, very well the last few years since he announced less in november 2022. i'm going to give him one night, one night a boob says he could have one night. yeah. well, you know, i, i'm kind of mystifying, i mean they, they were all obviously geared to run against bite and, and they've been caught off guard. they haven't adjusted their game. missy said so, you know, we were talking about the, how the neo cons of import traded,

the democratic party. let's not forget, you know, bernie sanders is coming in and endorsing harris. i mean, you have the and you have a great deal of the political spectrum just collapsing right now. okay. and that, and that's not even to speak of the never trump present the republican party. i mean, we talk a lot on about this on this part of about the union party, but it's literally turning into a unit party. go ahead, misty. yeah, there's no question about it and listen, bernie sanders is not far off from a unit a neo con. if you look at his actual record, i mean, this guy's voted for numerous things. over the course of his career. he's done a very good job of creating this mythology of him being this plucky outside or anti war canada, who's some kind of a progressive. he's really not. he has been and locks up with a democratic party since the ninety's. and so it's really not have any surprise to me, or anybody who's been paying attention to him and his actual record that he is supporting . humbler harris. i think he has long been a coward. he has long been somebody who is a been willing to go along with the democratic party. i mean, he's all over twitter, you know,

talking about these horrible things that the democratic party is currently doing. and then he endorses them. so i mean, the cowardice there is really off the charts, but you're absolutely correct. the unit party is really, i mean that, that's been this kind of so called conspiracy theories for some time now. but i think it is, it's really unavoidable at this point. that's exactly what we have. you know, a garland is what the real winner because we haven't really talked to really one our last and i don't really care because it seems patently obvious to me. the winter was the establishment. the status quote one. yeah, i agree. i mean, ultimately when it comes down to it, i don't think this moves the needle. as i said, i think it may be some is donald trump's position as an outside rollout. but democrats to, you know, all get together and say, you know, campbell is better than you thought she was, which we thought you was really, really terrible. but i don't think it, it really moves things. i will, i'll say this on bernie sanders too. if you look at his history back in the ninety's and i recall this, well, he pushed back against nafta and he and he said everything, right, it's terrible,

blah, blah, blah. all these predictions we built with in got it through couple years later, 96, he's out there pushing for bill clinton to get so cute. he has good policies, but no principles to back up the policies. so he could point out all the terrible things that the democrats are doing quite frequently. very well. not always take some bad decisions too. but when it comes to having principles to stand from what he believes in their goal, and he just, they just wash away like an old bridge in his door. and he comes out and says, we gotta support the democrats because they're better than the republicans even when they are as well. i don't know the difference between the 2 anymore. okay, sorry. okay, right. you know, and so one of the things i found a really exasperating, particularly from kamala harris, is that she talked a lot about her origins in the middle class and her hopes for the middle class. well, neither political party is thought about the middle class for a good part of 40 years right now. again, this is like a treadmill over and over again. you can put food on the table on

a vault with the vibe, and that's the message i got from that. okay. and again, i agree with gar, let me what trump could have just fam, or the way on the economy. you didn't go ahead and say, yeah, absolutely she how to use those key phrases. we are moving forward. we're not going backwards. she was constantly using that rhetoric and know what that stuff that i've seen and other elections. it does work. i mean, it sticks in your mind. she has to talk about her origins and her race and her gender. because guess what? her base both of those very ideals. and they want the 1st female president, they want all those things. that means more to them than any policy. then x costing a dollar a piece in the us right now they don't care about that. they care about looks, they care about ideology and they want the 1st female president, and that's what she was talking to. now to me, she says, all those things,

it's like, you know, a nails on a chalkboard. i only want to your policies, but that wasn't. she knew how to played her audience and she played it. well. yeah, missing. i mean, is this really does kind of the female version of brock obama? yeah. kind of a little bit, and it's also, i think, a bit of a vindicate vindication campaign for hillary clinton. i think that the, the base desperately wanted their 1st name of president. then i think that they were angry that they didn't get it. so i think that that's kind of reinforced their vigor at this time around. and i think that your, i love that you're calling advice because i think this is a campaign solely on vibes. it took her, i don't even know how many days to get a policy page up on her website and it really shouldn't been not difficult. i mean, she has been in office as you mentioned for 3 and a half years now. so i think she's running on the whole vibes. enjoy thing, and it's so ridiculous that reminds me of hope and change. so the comparison of rock obama, i think it's definitely. yeah. well, so garland, so go ahead, go, go ahead. i would say about this. she called herself black. both her peers had p h these go to the black community and tell me how many people with both parents have

pj these that think they grew up in the struggle. you know, she's like, oh, i grew up, it was tough. it was pop your parents at ph. d. neither of my parents had a high school degree. my dad was a longshoreman. we lived the middle class life. it's absurd to argue that both you're quite favorites. edp and you come out somehow came out of a hood and poverty which seems to be pushing well to south carolina. are we being sold the bill of goods that if it's a woman of color, it will make a genocide in god's a more acceptable because that's what it seems to be telling me. it's just a narrative. it reminds me of the new york on foreign policy. there is nothing behind campbell harris but narrative. she has no history of politics. there's nobody what would be the few things that they put her in charge of over the last 4 years. she absolutely blew completely. she blew every one of them, you know often and didn't even show up at the border. the things they told her to

do, she was either unable or unwilling to do so. there is no substance there. so now they've got to put her out there and say, she's a woman of color or whatever, some weird narrative, but there's nothing there for them to argue. she has no body of work. well, it seems to me, i don't want to be too cool here. and so you, but it's given the 3 and a half years to come out of harris has been vice president and her lack of activity or whatever it, i guess it's now pretty obvious. she was just waiting for them to nice joe biden. that's what she's been waiting for. angie and i did, we, they did the, i mean, this whole thing has been a hollywood script from beginning to end. right. and even when donald trump said on stage, well, here's the borders are. she shook her head. i mean, how many videos could we pull up of joe? go ahead and giving her the roll of quarters, or she is just gaslight and you and you know what? i have to think about that for a 2nd. she's clearly, she was lying well in line on many points during the night, and the moderators let it go, but it was there just to trigger trump,

and he saw for each and every time. and that's what we saw, and that's why we're calling it a show. we saw it at the performance. we're at at 3 or 4. now i can't wait to see at 5 misty. she hasn't gotten garner one vote. in this primary in general election. i mean, explain how does that get nobody you, we raise no tests. election test here. okay. and now we're going out to the final step. it's extraordinary. gavin is fascinating. gavin newsome must be so upset. go ahead, misty, right? it's fascinating. and especially because of the democratic party who has long been clutching their pearls, that donald trump is an existential threat to democracy. what democracy, there's no democracy here. this is a fully anointed candidate. and you mentioned, you know, will this woman of color somehow make a genocide better? it's literally the mean peter, it's the me and we're the bombs now have a rainbow flags. so it's fine. i, it is so absurd to me and you're right. she has earned 0 votes and it's actually

the last time that she ran, she had to drop out of the race before her home state so that she can avoid being embarrass um, so this is somebody that nobody has ever liked. and i will say that the, the way that they have able been able to turn this or around and get so much support for her at least to professionally in the way that the media has been able to push that narrative forward, has been really fascinating to watch because she went from a totally reviled candidate in vice president to now having a just a tremendous amount of support somehow got i missed the read my mind because when they, after they could uh bite. and i said, now you're going to see the most extravagant sophisticated marketing program ever went out in garland, go finish off the program for us. well, this is the exact democracy that the neo cons are in fact exporting around the world, they want to go to your country. they want the us elite to pick the, the, the leader of your country with no input from the people. and then once that person gets in power, they want to do, they want to do things that are going to a benefit,

the ruling elite in the us. this is the democracy model that there's freedom around the world. anybody who wants to understand what they want to bring to their country, just look is what's going on in the democratic party and pat campbell harris, that's your model. yeah, it might cause what we have. well, all of you and, and to my dear viewers, is that we have a forest regime change has come home. i predicted this in december of 2017, and it's continuing and on this program we'll keep observing as all the time we have. i want to thank my guests in washington, columbus and in miami. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. so you next time, remember across the what is this?

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it was weird. it was short on details short on policy. and it may, maybe i'm doing a one of those candidates, which one though and why i'm rick sanchez. let's do this. the the, i guess we could probably say this no matter who you were pulling for or no matter who who you think won the debate at this point in time. there is no denying that kinda like yours standard team came up with some kind of plan to bait donald trump and we saw it like from the very beginning when, when she played him and he seemed to kind of fall for her trap. what's this? the come with harris. so good to base you see. thank you. yeah. see he didn't really even come out to shake her hand. he wasn't calling in the opposite direction. so she kind of had to chase them down.

she went over to him, surprised him. it looked like by saying, you know, a hi, my name is carla harris, referring to all the times that he's missed, pronounced her name for his part truck. never really said her name even during the debate. barely looked at her during the debate, and it kind of became obvious, right? right away that these 2 people, they look, let's just say it like it is. they do not like each other at all. look, we've had a terrible economy because inflation has, which is really known as a country buster. it breaks up countries. we have inflation, like very few people have ever seen before, probably the worst and our nation's history. we were at 21 percent, but that's being generous because many things are 506070 and 80 percent higher than they were just a few years ago. they have and she has destroyed our country with policy. that's insane. almost policy that you'd say they have to hate our country.