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the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . when it comes to american presidential debates, the winter is often in the eye of the beholder and the bar is lowered today. both trump and harris couldn't claims they didn't lose the debate. but what's the needle moved the prose, talking to trump parents debate? i'm joined by my guess, carla nixon in washington. he's a political animals in columbus. we have missy winston. she is an activist and host of action for a size and in miami we cross to entry wong. she is a miami executive district committee woman. alright gentlemen,

and ladies across top rolls in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated. let me go to miss the 1st step because garland diane have a little bit of an advantage of you ladies on this program cuz we're just a lot older. okay, so let me see, and i, i watch the car ones input after this. you know, i've been watching presidential debates since 1976 do the math so you can figure out how old i am. okay. but, and this the, that was something very, very different. develop this debate than any other presidential bait. what was it? um, well i would say that uh, i can't really think of much difference. there was really no substance. there was really nothing that um, i mean it was interesting to me because i felt like uh, there was definitely a setup where at the moderators were certainly a little one sided the little bit. but i don't think that's surprising to anyone. i think that that was probably expected. i think it, we've seen the way in debates past that they've been leading in that direction,

depending on who the moderators are. of course, if you have that, you know, fox news moderator that then they tend to maybe be slightly more fair or lean a little more trump, but i think that it is definitely obviously these moderators were leaning a little heavy in favoritism towards coming here. well, yes bank, i mean, garland, i think it one point the moderator was good to ask the question, then answer the question for harris. i mean, this was so blatant, i mean, i wish and i'm not taking sides. okay. i'm disappointed with both candidates. i'm disappointed with american politics in general. this is the best they can find. this is really incredible here, but the, the, the sense of justice this, this sense of injustice. garland in this debate. yeah, i think that, um, what we had was donald trump was in an argument with the moderators and every now and then campbell harris would interrupt the argument that he was having mostly with david. and i think, you know, interestingly enough, i think that was a dynamic that a lot of people picked up. i've heard that discussions,

and i think that something that probably was of value to, to, to, to donald trump. i think it also, oddly enough, help to submit his argument that he's an outsider which isn't difficult, you know, a difficult argument for a guy who's been president to make. but when the whole system, every thing was leaning against donald trump. i think if you're sitting there watching it, you're the people who already kind of had an inclination to think that donald trump was an outside or if the system didn't want him, are going to see that in that particular dynamic. and i think i, interestingly enough, i think it helps donald trump, you know, and that's a really interesting observation because ever since the debate probably still a gone going now is it, it's the media that is being polled about the result. the media is deciding who is the winner and loser, and i don't really care what they think because it's always a default position to the establishment. and obviously, kamala harris is the of the vessel for the, for the establishment today. but they do, do you think it will percolate down? i mean,

a lot of people watched it angie. oh yeah. half the world watched it. and here's the thing. what we saw was the prosecutor and the defendant, that night is very good and they play very well into those rules. come out of the house, knew exactly what trigger words she to say to get trouble completely on the defense for pretty much 85 percent of the entire program. and he, for some reason, wasn't well trained enough to actually notice that. so he felt right into it, he's but the entire show of defending himself. i'm glad you called in. i'm on. let's see i entry, i'm glad you called the show because that's exactly what it was. keep going. yeah, no, i mean is, once you scripted a small, harris was very little tray, she stuck to the square, she stopped 1st talking points. and ultimately, what i saw and all the mag tompkins, what i saw was someone who can actually compete with donald trump, which we had yet to see of his entire election. she could stand up to that man and

tall, not only with him, but that him. and i think a lot of that happened that was here talking at him. and so you bring up a really good point. i was gonna go to it later. but since you mentioned it, i'd like to ask you, what is the difference between donald trump and 20162024? you know, i was hoping that you would know of a, by who it was. you know, you had a split screen of, of 2 present presidential candidates who liked the commander in chief. he already had that going for him, but now she really stepped it up. and certainly the ac producers helped her elevated, right? everything from the camera angles. you only saw a side profile of her for and most of the program which i thought was quite interesting. and the leveled up their shoulders. i mean, all of it was to position her so, so she does definitely have to like, what's different. donald trump, he, i know what happened, but he went into rag mego rally donald trump, i, i, i'm the bass. yeah. and i didn't want to hear that he did not know his audience and

his staff did not change them well for that. he thought he was going to be joe joe biden. 2 point oh, that's not what he got. yeah, i mean, carl, and i've said, i said it a few months ago, you know, considering the, the campaign that the trump people are running. i mean, the less he says, the better that's in my opinion, that's what strategies opinion here. i'm sorry, i mean go to misty here, right now, that's the, one of the things that we found. some, i think the risk, the democratic party completed its rebranding during that debate because now it's the party of the neo cons. it's a party of the deep state. it's the party of mega donors. i mean, this is the, the final rebranding of it. and joe biden was just an irritant to it because he was just a stubborn person. i have to watch my language here, but it's, it seems to me the re branding is complete your thoughts? yeah, i would say that that's probably pretty accurate. i think at this point they have sort of slow walk that progression. i think what amongst their base,

i think the obviously would've been something that they could sell overnight. i think it's something that they've had to really kind of lead their holding base into. i think you're at mean it started long. it really started with bill clinton, i think. but i think really obama was very effective and starting to shift that very dramatically. and i think after obama, they really just had a couple tweaks to make here in there. and i think humble harris is now really stealing that deal. yeah, we and carl, and having the democratic nominee and embracing dick cheney, i mean, explained to me what's going on here. well, that's what the party is now, is this, this is very much the democratic party having turned into the republican party of george bush of 2006. and that's pretty clear. i do think in the debate that a lot of this stuff was from aust, i think it was flap, it was a lot. there was a lot of talk and there was a, you know, back and forth and the moderators and all that. but i do think the, the concrete issues were number one installation. i think number 2

slashed into a, we're going, we're, we're a foreign policy and immigration, i do think that, that, you know, donald trump score, i mean, he talked about in inflation a bit. and that's what's bothering people the most. i do think it was, it was a very, very in a he made some, some powerful statements when he talked about world war 3 and stopping the ukraine war. so, oh, you know, notwithstanding the punches that she got in the name calling in the blathering and babbling about people eating pets and things of that nature, i think the things that people were listening for were they are years per felt like a german shepherd were inflation you oh donald trump doesn't want war and she does . yeah. or that that's exactly how i received the n g. you know, i, a lot of words were said i, i tend to agree with garland because

a trump was president. oddly enough, he had to defend his record, and he didn't criticize enough of the by the administration. that's kind of a new ones that i thought was interesting. but kamala harris absolutely said nothing for what i could tell other than just expressing a vibe. i mean, i did to be honest with you, i was watching it and i had my ipad right next to me and i lost, i lost, lost interest. and when she was talking, i turned to my i ipad, i, i, i nothing was being said, but she was the winner as a result. apparently, angie. yeah, well you know, that was reset about that unless she talks about her policies, the better it is for her. she doesn't have to commit to it. you know, the bernie sanders sen, bernie sanders of vermont. kind of let it out that the other day that come all harris will do and say anything she has to say to get elected. and i, and that's part of the game. i mean, we're at the very end stretch of a very critical election here. so she's going to say all those words,

so she presents it well. she did not really. uh, she wasn't as shaky as i thought she would be. up until now. we don't really know who kamala harris is. right, and she did do a lot introduce. this is a 1st stage to her for a lot of americans. i think that as far as policy goes, if i were true, i think he had a missed opportunity here. he should said, look, come on harris. you have 50 days left before the election. why don't you go back to washington and do all of those things that you're promising to night to do? yeah, but yeah, apparently lived a he, it could have been, i think it could, he could have closed the entire so called debate after harris was asked the 1st question, essentially ronald reagan's question, are you better off now than you were 4 years ago? she just completely avoided answering the 1st question. if i had been trump, i would have said, aren't you going to make her answer the question? is that i mean, yes that, that, that role go ahead. garland trumpet, let me throw something in real quick. but what did he say? that was power hoax?

he said at the end and exposing statement. you've been here for 4 years. the said, all of that stuff. you've been here 3 and a half, 4 years. how come you didn't do any of that stuff? i think that in the closing statement was broke because it made all of those points that what are you babbling for now with all these players, you haven't done any of them. and i think it made it made the entire point about for a legit new policies. you know, missed a was a you started off by saying this was a prosecution that i think you're absolutely right. because if you go back forensically and look at the debate. yeah, the trump was given arguments, he wasn't given questions. that didn't happen to harris. everything was arg, you mentioned. yeah. go ahead, misty. yeah, of course i think that that's a they know donald trump, then they know exactly how to beat him. and unfortunately, he felt for it every single time he was baited numerous times and he fell for nearly every time. and i think that that is something, as you mentioned, i think he, he really seemed to comment unprepared. i don't know if he was just totally

underestimating calmly, harris, which i wouldn't blame him if he did. i think that she has set a very low bar for herself with the word solids in her, you know, creepy, giggling, and all of that stuff. i think she is kind of created this character of herself where she is kind of kind of become a joke. and so i don't know if he just drastically underestimated her capabilities . but i think that was probably very obviously said that she knew exactly which funds to probably gonna have to go to a break here, but never under estimate your opponent. that's the 1st rule of how it takes it. all right, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion of the drum paras debate states without the the there was a time when i started to was abused to attain flowers, steve,

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i'm critical of donald trump for, i'm not going differentiating himself more in allowing the, the deep state narrative to prevail here. but you know, that's, that's one of the reasons why i said, you know, the, the, what we see now is kind of a lead agend in world war 3 is very much in the cards right now. and that's something that i discuss on this program. a lot of kamala harris even said, claims that you wouldn't know us troops are deployed in combat zones. nobody pushed back on that. angie no, and there was a metric and look, i mean i was disappointed actually at both candidates for that answer. you had donald trump, who could have said a lot, and really wondered kamala harrison. this is that he said, i'm just going to within 24 hours, going to pick up the phone and call up those men and tell him to stop it. i mean, that's not, that's his approach. okay. i understand that i would if i were donald trump, i would have a tap come all harris for trying to have it both ways and that was her response,

right? she was trying to please the jewish faith and also the palestinian base as the same time. and we seem to do that time and time again. she cannot afford to lose places like minnesota or michigan where there's a huge arab american population. but i, it's as donald trump, i would have also chapter 4, all the neo cons, supporting her race, like the dick cheney envelopes chinese and the military complex. right. but he didn't go there and i, that's why i feel like he was a little bit off. his game, the donald trump has been campaigning very, very well the last 2 years since he announced less in november 2022. i'm going to give him one night. one night a boob says he could have one night. yeah. well, you know, i'm, i'm kind of mystifying, i mean they, they were all obviously geared to run against bite and, and they've been caught off guard. they haven't adjusted their game. missy said so, you know, we were talking about the,

how the and the neo cons have infiltrated the democratic party. let's not forget, you know, bernie sanders is coming in and endorsing harris. i mean, you have the and you have a great deal of the political spectrum just collapsing the right now. okay. that, that, and that's not even to speak of the never trump, or isn't the republican party. i mean, we talk a lot on about this on this program about the una party, but it's literally turning into a, you know, party go ahead, misty. yeah, there's no question about it and listen, bernie sanders is not far off from a unit a neo con. if you look at his actual record, i mean this guys voted for numerous things over the course of his career. he's done a very good job of creating this mythology of him being this plucky outside or anti war canada, who's some kind of a progressive. he's really not. he has been in locks up with a democratic party since the ninety's. and so he's really not have any surprise to me, or anybody who's been paying attention to him and his actual record that he is supporting . humbler harris. i think he has long been a coward. he has long been somebody who is a been willing to go along with the democratic party. i mean, he's all over twitter, you know, talking about these horrible things that the democratic party is currently doing.

and then he endorses them. so i mean, the cowardice there is really off the charts, but you're absolutely correct. the unit party is really, i mean that, that's been this kind of so called conspiracy theories for some time now. but i think it is, it's really unavoidable at this point. that's exactly what we have. you know, a garland is what the real winner because we haven't really talked to really one our last and i don't really care because it seems patently obvious to me. the winner was the establishment. the status quote one. yeah, i agree. i mean, ultimately when it comes down to it, i don't think this moves denito. as i said, i think it may be some is donald trump's position as an outside or the allow for democrats to, you know, all get together and say, you know, campbell is better than you thought she was, which we thought you was really, really terrible. but i don't think it's, it really moves things i will, i'll say this on bernie sanders too. if you look at his history back in the ninety's and i recall this, well, he pushed back against nafta and he, and he said everything, right? it's terrible, blah blah. blah,

all these predictions we built with in got it through couple years later, 96, he's out there pushing for bill clinton to get so he'll have good policies, but no principles to back up the policies. so he could point out all the terrible things that the democrats are doing quite frequently. very well. not always to take some bad decisions too. but when it comes to having principles to stand from what he believes in their goal, and he just, they just wash away like an old bridge in the store. and he comes out and says, we gotta support the democrats because they're better than the republicans even when they are. well, i don't know the difference between the 2 anymore. okay, sorry. okay, right. you know, and one of the things i found a really exasperating, particularly from kamala harris, is that she talked a lot about her origins in the middle class and her hopes for the middle class. well, neither political party is thought about the middle class for a good part of 40 years right now. again, this is like a treadmill over and over again. you can put food on the table on

a hot with the vibe, and that's the message i got from that. okay. and again, i agree with gar, let me, i would trump could have just fam, or the way on the economy. you didn't go ahead and j. yeah, absolutely. she had to use those key phrases. we are moving forward. we're not going backwards. she was constantly using that rhetoric and know what that stuff that i've seen and other elections that does work. i mean, it sticks in your mind, she has to talk about her or regions and her race and her gender. because guess what? her base both on those very ideals. and they want the 1st female president, they want all those things. that means more to them than any policy, then x costing a dollar piece in the us right now. they don't care about that. they care about looks and they care about ideology and they want the 1st female president, and that's what she was talking to. now to me, she says, all those things,

it's like, you know, a nails on a chalkboard. i only want in your policies, but that was, she knew how to play her audience and she played it. well. yeah, missing. i mean, is this really does kind of the female version of brock obama? a yeah, kind of a little bit. and it's also, i think, a bit of a vindicate vindication campaign for hillary clinton. i think that the, the base desperately wanted their 1st name of president, then i think that they were angry that they didn't get it. so i think that that's kind of reinforced their vigor at this time around. and i think that your, i love that you're calling advice because i think this is a campaign solely on the side. it took her, i don't even know how many days to get a policy page up on her website. and it really shouldn't been not difficult. i mean, she has been in office as you mentioned, for 3 and a half years now. so i think she's running on the whole vibes. enjoy thing, and it's still ridiculous that reminds me of hope and change. so the comparison of rock obama, i think it's definitely as well. so garland, so go ahead, go, go ahead. i would say about this. she called herself black. both her parents had p h. these go to the black community and tell me how many people with both parents have pj these that think they grew up in the struggle. you know, she's like, oh,

i grew up, it was tough. it was pop your parents at ph. d. neither of my parents had a high school degree. my dad was a longshoreman. we lived a middle class life. it's absurd to argue that both you're quite favorites at the age these and you come out somehow came out of a hood in poverty, which she seems to be pushing well or south carolina. are we being sold the bill of goods that if it's a woman of color, it will make a genocide in god's a more acceptable because that's what it seems to be telling me. it's just a narrative. it reminds me of the neo con foreign policy. there is nothing behind campbell, harris but narrative. she has no history of politics. there is nobody what could be the few things that they put her in charge of over the last 4 years. she absolutely blew completely. she blew every one of them, you know often and didn't even show up at the border. the things they told her to do,

she was either unable or unwilling to do so. there is no substance there. so now they got to put her out there and say, she's a woman of color or whatever, some we're narrative, but there's nothing there for them to argue. she has no body of work. well, it seems to me, i don't want to be cool here. and so you, but in a given the 3 and a half years to come, our harris has been vice president and her lack of activity or whatever it, i guess it's now pretty obvious you is just waiting for them to nice joe biden. that's what she's been waiting for. angie and i did, we think did nice. i mean, this whole thing has been a hollywood script from beginning to end. right. and even when donald trump said on stage, well, here's the borders are. she shook her head. i mean, how many videos we pull up of joe biden, giving her the roll of quarters are she is just gaslight and you and you know what, i have to think about that for a 2nd. she's clearly, she was lying willing, lying on many points during the night, and the moderators let it go, but it was there just to trigger trump, and he felt for each and every time. and that's what we saw. and that's why we're

calling it a show. we saw it at the performance. we're at act 3 or 4. now i can't wait to see at 5 misty. she hasn't gotten garner one vote in this primary in general election. i mean, explain how does that back get nobody you we're, there's no test election test here. okay. and now we're going to the final say, it's extraordinary, gavin, it is fascinating. gavin newsome must be so upset, go ahead, misty, right? it's fascinating. and especially because of the democratic party who has long been clutching their pearls, that donald trump is an existential threat to democracy. what democracy there is no democracy here. this is a fully anointed candidate. and you mentioned, you know, will this women of color somehow make a genocide better? it's literally the mean peter, it's the me where the bombs now have a rainbow flags. so it's fine. it is so absurd to me and you're right. she has earned 0 votes and it's actually the last time that she ran,

she had to drop out of the race before her home state so that she could avoid being embarrass um, so this is somebody that nobody has ever liked. and i will say that the, the way that they have able been able to turn this or around and get so much support for her at least to professionally in the way that the media has been able to push that narrative forward, has been really fascinating to watch because she went from a totally reviled candidate in vice president to now having a just a tremendous amount of support somehow got missed the read by mind because when they, after they could uh bite. and i said, now you're going to see the most extravagant sophisticated marketing program ever went out at garland, go finish off the program for us. well, this is the exact democracy that the neo cons are in fact exporting around the world, they want to go to your country. they want the us elite to pick the, the, the leader of your country with no input from the people. and then once that person gets in power, they want to do, they want to do things that are going to a benefit,

the ruling elite in the us. this is a democracy model that there's breeding around the world. anybody who wants to understand what they want to bring to their country, just look is what's going on in the democratic party and pat campbell of harris. that's your model. yeah, it might cause what we have. well, all of you and, and to my dear viewers, is that we have a forest regime change has come home. i predicted this in december of 2017, and it's continuing and on this program we'll keep observing as all the time we have. i want to thank my guests in washington, columbus and in miami. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us

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