so if they simply are on of those arguments and they have nothing left to say. so they starting labeling us as a extreme east, as a radi goes a, as a russian agents and so on. but let's ask ourselves, what's really extreme about our political opinions or about our political program. we want to end a war, and we wanna bes, east extremism. we want to protect europe a against illegal migration. we want to protect our family and traditional values. we want to protect freedom of speech as well as these, these extremism. i don't think so. so let's look around, let's have a look at the current, and here will be in governments, and it will be information. and i think they are the ones who are destroying our continental lauries during our europe, our stays and they are the ones who are to be called extremes. what i, what i find very interesting is that how 4th minded this tactic is of labor and labeling somebody extreme is because when they call you that name by extension,

they also call that any one who happens to have the same use as you are. and i suppose it's quite a lot of people in europe, so let me repeat my question again. do you think people may support you simply because they don't like them used to be called extreme is that people um support us and to support these growth and you can see it all around the europe simply because of the fact that we bring the or additional approach that we bring to come on the science baker to europe in a bully, see back to the national policies and coming sense, which is missing in the current govern government policies. and that's why they are supporting us because they see that we are more realistic and our program, he's more pals a deal, then the program will start and governments and cover going to you will be in commercial disability for us. we are not explain these adult now and you have a pretty sharp tongue which you frequently use during the sessions on

a european problem. and let me play a very short clip from one of your speeches to give our audience a, a taste of it. the european union is turning into a soviet style public bureau, which attacks anyone out there who expresses a dissenting opinion. i want to ask you to stop this because eventually you will be hoist by your own petard and the whole you are with i will have you ever will. i cracked the find us. now the horse been by your own guitar is coming from the soviet era or soviet style pool, a garage. i think those are quite rich metaphors and they can be quite a sensitive on a personal level. do you enjoy even a little bit rustling beside? there is a few follow and peace. what i meant that with the speech is that to europe and you only on resemble a soviet bureau, grossey, soviet paper work uh, soviet a single line, boise, and those so that the regulations and that's what has centralization generally. and

i think that the general to, to central ization of you will be in the union, but simply went too far. this is not the european union. we do, which we entered 20 years ago. and this is not the corporation we were promised to have sold simply, that's the thing we want to point out. and that's the thing that we want to change in the future in our political program. and whether i do enjoyed or not for me is not the fun for me. it's like a personally, i think that i'm quite a quite of a friendly person to privately. i'm not that kind of tough. a tough fighter. you know privately, but somebody has to speak loudly about the problems that you will be spacing. if we are not going to do that, then the question is, who is going to be goes to mainstream bully additions to establishment police conditions are i'm going to say about those negative. so this is why our voters voted us to do all 600 for me, the position of the member of your open bottle, i'm in and is why i have to speak loudly and to point out the problems which you

will be facing and to bring solutions this my work and that's what i'm doing. now before we move to discuss older serious issues, let me ask one more personal question. i wonder when you encounter your colleagues later on after making those the speeches in the cafeteria, let's say in the bathroom. do you agree with each other and do you shake hands? that's based political fluoride is ation expound into personal dis bane. i don't have any problem with my political openings on a personal level. even though we do have different political opinions about many things, of course, and i don't agree with them. i don't think that a bully takes should be a reason to hate each other because we see where to go. so when we come to these, i promote unfortunately, our political colleagues for on the left thing bodies from, from all liberal bodies, doesn't saturday separately. they have a problem to take our hands. they have a problem to communicate with us,

that they have a problem to say, even halo on the cory doors, because simply they think that they are something better did. they are the right one, the enlightened ones, and the correct ones. and we are debate. it was for them, it is so simple and i'm scared over this approach because we slowly to like, 80 years ago when there was a group of people, which i think or for, they are better than the rest of the world. and it ended with no big, big conflict to be to 2nd world war. so i don't like this approach there, there enlightment. and i'm to be honest as it will be scared of it. and the reason that i'm asking this question is because i think politics originally please, if used to be about relatedness people around for office, at least on the promises to make life of the neighbors better to build the rows to build close to bring some other practical improvements into people's lives, rather than pontificate about some of high minded ideas. does the european

parliament describe those practicalities, mundane, realities of life anymore? they are open, but allow me to do opinion and cannot even decide how many genders do we have in the world. i mean, like a men and women. so this is the biggest program of europe in you only on of europe and policy to decide how many genders do we have. and now imagine that if they do have such a big problem, we to such a simple question. but in such a adobe as question, how can they sold or, or april, very complex learning, difficult technical or international issues. they are completely unable to do that because simply they don't have a mental capacity to see to reality as it is. and that's why i don't know about in our political groups or for the philadelphia. we are going to europe in union to be already formed. and returned back just to make a cooperation like if it was mentioned,

a meant to be before and leave these political issues. and these steps to themes, as you mentioned, just told us that way. can i ask you about the rationale event? because um, people, uh, usually don't like being threatened. they don't like being patronized. and when their views are cold, extreme, or extreme as to when they are being accused all for them. i've gone 3 of populism . they, they usually don't relate to the very nice way. why do you think this, this establishment parties continue using that style of pull it taking? because it strikes me as very immature and not very effective? why do you think that i'm not perhaps more sophisticated or even more cunning? simply because they are blended blondie that they really believe that they are better than the rest of the world that they have the right phone. they may billing info all the one, but they, they can be blind to the fact that other people don't share their perception of them. but actually they are blind to see that and as why they don't use any

sophisticated communication methods. because simply, they don't see it and the best they can do is to simply label or market their political or opinion openings as extreme east. as radicals as far from the agents, as i mentioned, this is the best they can do. and of course, the best they can do is to to silence update opponents. like you to have gone to very recently when mr. rudolph, the owner of the a little bit, was interested in the, in france just because he didn't want to school. but they do, we do wisdom security services spending. he didn't want to apply science or shape on the content. we just published intelligence of. but as we say, other people, the people said people simply see it and they see the difference. we try to mainstream media and you are bringing people and the difference between the reality, how we to really ease and as why people don't trust. i'm answering media in europe a very much more. it's very interesting of you mentioned probably will do it for

was a rest if not because of his particular views, but because of the way she goes about things and to sound like sense. uh, what do you have a, i have here is not only the difference in valleys, but thing, different the difference about how to proceed about politics. and you may make your speeches as much as you want. but at the same time, i don't think it is changing the way the european parliament or the european union as such is operating. what do you think would bring that operational change for everybody to be on the proper rules of behavior rather than, you know, putting aside those rules when they run counter to your own political opinions, change has to come from the people because uh they are, do they have to bother and they have the right to decide what government is going to be. and this is, this is the way help this things should be changing a democratic way in a free way. and if the people understand that they are being likes to or if it,

the reality has to be changed because to the current political lines, simply ease them to where you will, then they will simply change or law for change and the change will come. so democratic brings the police the only way for like you mentioned the election. so we the, we just had the major regional elections in germany which delivered a significant upset to the establishment parties. and i think it raises a very interesting question off the pulse, cold war identity is because there are many people, especially in these germany who no longer think that you know, they have to somehow be remade into a proper europeans. that, that entire ddr legacy has to be sort of condemned and who decide, what do you think and signifies, do you think is just in german thing or do you think that applies more generally? uh does not phenomenon in europe, as i think is the general phenomenon and a little continue with the former and the forward elections regarding the drum. i

need to situation in germany. i don't think that the elections were a result of only of the social welfare issues or g d, p, or salaries. but the people are simply or not the city side ofa where the cost of what's happening. we did their countries and the one reason we do, i think that the, the change is coming from from central and eastern europe in countries. a piece that, uh, we had the previous regime community sort of thing where we were able to see that the same. so cheap and simply we can, our people, our citizens can more easily recognize that, that they are being lied to enter. the reality is completely different as described in mainstream establishment media at 4 o 4. on the other hand, people are on the western part of europe. they are more trustworthy total massive media. they simply cannot, cannot believe that they are being lied to,

that they are being manipulated by media owners or by some a bully, decent or some governments. and is why they need a little bit more time to wake up and to, to see that the ticket open needs change because otherwise their countries are simply doing well. uh, coincidentally, mr. early can, we also have, uh, we also need a little bit more time, right. now to take a very short break, but we will be back in just a few moments station the,

[000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the welcome back to wells of parts with milan wrecked member of the european parliament for slovakia and the leader of the republic moment. mister ern, before the break we started talking about the results of a recent german elections. ones that were out you wrote that they showed that

future belongs to quote, a europe of silver and nations. it belongs to the protection of traditional values . it belongs to european prosperity, freedom and silver and team. how much time do you think it will take for this glorious future to materialize? in reality? i think the change will come soon as possible. immediately if you ask me, but honestly, a little take some time off guys, because uh, the, you know, shop and ballistics, 89 government. so he's worried where he is drunk, so it will take some time. firstly, people and helping countries in the countries have to realize that the car and the wait, there governments are leading most, most of their governments are leading to their countries. you simply are on s p n, the simply leading door to door prizes. and secondly, many people have to realize that we are not extreme used to we are not pretty cuz we are being labeled or, or,

or described by mr. media. we are covering those government which are doing better decisions. so as i said, i'm time sure that the future belongs to europe of silver and nations because there is no other way forward. and we see the current situation. we see what current policies have brought to your role, but i haven't brought to work and we don't want to continue with that. so we have to change that and the only out there not to be suitable sort of nations. the scope of ation. but on an equal level and on the level of mutual respect, so of this is our of our political program in our way forward. now i think you would agree with me that the european enlargement, at least after the cold war, was based to some extent on the idea that the former socialist blow countries were a victims of communism. and western values were seen as the tool of uh, essentially fixing them. there was sort of this element of good social engineering . you know, we will make you into proper uh,

liberally minded human beings. we are seeing another wave of that with all those the new age ideas about gender, which you mentioned also about many aspects, social aspects of society. do you think those powers that um, pursuing that dr. stream does this new social doctor. and we'll actually let you have your vision of the future future of not only silver and nations, but uh, i assume southern people as well, where everybody can make a choice about how to leave his or her live, how to race. you know, kids, you know how to choose face, that's etc. do you think those powers will allow you to have that? it doesn't seem to glitch on stacy's day. allows us is not the day or rights to allow or don't to allow the already elected to rule the countries to, to follow the will of the people of c disaster. and that's what they shall do. not sure, you know that they are very much, they have a lot of influence. both david,

sometimes secretive and you know, they're, they're printing and trying shed and the ways they're doing things on the oh, yes indeed. yes, indeed, they are, but the change can be done. we so he to many times in history and i'm sorry for that. the change will come when you mentioned the, mentioned the previous era, the comedies on the people who always some countries feel that they feel that they have the right to somehow teach us to lead us to what they tell us what's wrong. and what was the right come on, we don't say we don't see a previous resume. i mean, comments or anything as an talk age because we have lived in the regime. of course there were some bad things, but there were some good things like social, social, boise, and so on. and we say that we should learn from the past that what, what was, what was wrong, shouldn't be simply change and what was going to be followed and to take to the future. and i think this is the approach for about to end up again, i don't care about what the governments fink because i'm not being elected to follow the governments i'm. i was elected by our motors by our citizens to float

and apply hopefully to go program, which is simply different and if we will have the chance, we will apply it that that i was also born in the socialist camp. i, you know, the, in the old, the, in the last few years of the soviet union and i agree with you that, that project, the political projects have many downsides. but there was a certain degree of autonomy to family values. i mean, uh, within the family, the parents could decide what to change the children they sometimes told them secret valleys, but at least the parties didn't try to intervene into family or even personal matters, which i think is happening all over europe. with all this discourse about gender and gender bathrooms, whatever. how do you explain that? why do you think, uh, western values, a taking a at that particular domain. while, as you mentioned, there are many,

many problems that basically have address because they are unable to solve the under problems. the problems regarding economy area regarding regarding the international efforts and so on. there's why they are bringing up saved or problems, plays, or issues, as you mentioned before, a protective values up to the front. and they are simply making the public busy. we probe us, which doesn't exist in reality, they are simply covering, covering their can go but to incomplete. and so that's why they are doing it. but i agree, and i must admit that that uh to, to very narrow bar to or to very basic part of these politicians that really believes that there are more gender and that, that they are enlightened and the whole world should follow their way of life. they really believe that i find the show of freedom very interesting here because ultimately a freedom is a spiritual value. it's based on the idea that there is something inside of you. whether on the personal, on the collective level, that you know uh,

guides your own development as a southern being or as a silver nation. so this is something that cannot be dictated or uh, brought from the outside. and yet many western petitions while endorsing the idea of freedom, they are also endorsing the idea of a change brought from within. um to me that's a, that's a major philosophical m, a frankly spiritual power adults. i wonder if they're doing that because 1st of all, they lost faith with big f. and 2nd of all, if they lost space in themselves and their ability to change something within themselves, their own societies, and therefore they have to perform with on somebody else. oh yes indeed, and they lost faith. most of them don't believe in christianity and go to himself. so they simply don't have the correct uh, values, let's say in their lives they don't want no, no. what's that? what's really important and what's

a like less important when it comes to life driver, it is. and this is why they are so incompetent. so, for me, you know, for me this uh their, their attempt to simply change the whole world to change the of thinking that the mind or for people is to most of the most dangerous part of their policy. because they are not bringing the freedom of speech or freedom of thinking, they are narrowing it down, actually narrowing it down to only their point of view. there, i know logy. and the rest of these are labeled or marked as somebody explain these almost almost some article is more fun of these mental on. and this is what uh, as i said earlier, scares me the most. they are simply fanatics, mobile, many of them which are willing to go very, very far with their ideology and pushing their ideology and what's happening. what's the result is we know we received all around the award. what's happening,

how the number of international conflicts that facing greece and just because of the ideology and the number of even conflicts among the citizens i'm on to families is increasing and wisdom countries out. the situation is being more and more stable just because of ideological thinking. or ideological money placed on and this is what scares me the most. and this is what we want to stop and bring back as it was before the freedom of banking, freedom of speech. you mentioned the conflicts and i think it's pretty vivid. the, the one, the praying and the brakes with russia don't ads, the ability to prosperity on the european continent. and it seems to be turning into this sort of long running stalemate. how do you see these crisis developing in months? so perhaps years to come? first of all, uh, i think that the, the conflicts or a new grant would it be prevented if thought old bodies. let's say i would uh,

a respect mean agreements bought the best we haven't heard from the wisdom politicians. they never intended to respect a disagreement. dave just wanted to buy more time and to be there for war. and, you know, the situation the came where it is a, is it as it is? and the question is now what can be done and will, how can it be stopped and the how the world we are talking about to do a political conflict? how can the world uh, be yeah, bring back to normal way of life normal thinking because that's what the people are asking for. and our political program, our political view about these a squad clear recalls or stop a so called aunty adoption. indeed, auntie, you will be in the sanctions and they go to forced up a military supplies for, for a war conflict. so for a, for the grant as well. and we called for business associations for a normalization of relations, also with eastern countries, including russia and bellows. and so on, because uh right, what's happening right now, come on. what's happening right now?

right now, the future, the wisdom politicians. they say that there are plenty of 4 or 4 dictators, and not to democratic governments all around the world. and that re shooting both the sanctions against the restaurant against china, against to syria, against many, many other countries. and we didn't don't blindly follow the idea of uh, you know, been commissioned or you being leaders and they are imposing sanctions. but the ground they are imposing sanctions almost uh on the whole work, soap at the end of the day. they are not making isolated to consciously in those countries. they are making isolated themselves. they are making isolated to waste. and that's why we called to stop this madness and to, to come back to the stable diplomacy and start, leave the leading again. be slowly i, i agree with you that the there is come to other sanctions come back to your,

for many european countries and many ordinary businesses or ordinary people in europe and their increasing number of people on the groups that i was calling to leave them up for, for the sake of europe itself, but those calls, so i'm not heated. yeah. how much time do you give to you know, the best thing to turn around because, i mean, again, i've interviewed a lot of speakers from around europe, who would say things similar to what you're saying, but that ability to actually change that. it's pretty limited, unfortunately, is limited right now because i mean is right now because of the governments are, as they are due to been commissioning, is being elected in next month. so we will see about that. but uh, as well, during the time being we see also many, many changes and many, many problems which are emerging like a crisis we did,

it will be in the car industry. there is crazy. so we price over kind of these coming to look. and these are things that have to be solved somehow, and the only solution for them is so as i said to and the conflict based policy. and to start with again, a cooperation based policy, it means i'm not looking and i'm not searching enemies, hold around the world. but instead of looking for box mass booking for friendships looking for corporation. and it's a way help to end the conflict. and it is to weight how the end of the maintenance details and how much time would it take? there's a question about, i think the change is coming, get hold on slowly, but still it is coming. we saw it and it's like we said in the hungry, we see it in germany right now. and i think many other countries to europe and countries will follow very soon. well, mr. rick,

i certainly hope that your vision of your, of that values, mutual benefits, mutual respect of moral equality. i hope it will prevail sooner rather than later. thank you very much for being with us today. thank you very much orientation. i will do all right, that the piece will prevail at the end. thank you. and thank you for watching hope this air again on wells, the part the, the other way, not the right. it says the brother printer was or up at the moment. this is just simply slippers

we need the last name was needed read it was can when we used to be too much and we have support for someone who is this. we went to the, the, the, if you think about russia, what does your mind picture the landscapes open up before your eyes?

the last one does, can you imagine the, the discounts dodge the journey? the, the you ready to come along? the in 1941 with the nazis health creation, ultram nationalist, the massages the claim, the independent state of croatia. shortly off, the seizing power. they build the scene of us concentration can a place associated with the worst atrocities committed in yugoslavia during will go to use dash is use the cam system to isolate and exterminate subs, roma, jews, and other non catholic minorities and political opponents of the fascist regime conditions in the san of us come with her and the gods tortured to arise and the

prisoners they send them the constitution temps. so most of them died. it was incredible genocide. the . this is the story of freedom and democracy in the so called free west. it seems to me that only clinically insane people or those for obviously bias can believe in it's. it's very easy to promote freedom of speech and process. and when it's only your speech that counts and no one else is on the, he's editor in chief blocks of washington sanctions against this channel as an unprecedented style of the thing of a media outlets coming. if the white house continues to 12 cop freedom of the press, as long as it towed except to nurse in the united states respects and champions freedom expressions. but we will not stand by, as archie and other actors carry