tv Cross Talk RT September 16, 2024 6:30am-7:00am EDT
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long wage range weapons to fight a rough side, get deeper into the russian territory. now, so far, nato has not said neither now neither. yes, but russian for an intelligence services came out uh with a report stating that ukraine has applied to a to a plan. this russian stripe on a children facility, and then later on, of course, blame it on russia and all of this in hopes to get these western supplies. the leadership of the special services in the military command of the key every team are working on a scenario for another in human provocation. at the instigation of their united states handlers, they plan to stage a russian missile attack on a children's institution on t of controlled territory, a hospital or a kindergarten, with a large number of casualties. ukraine's leadership hopes to raise the morale of the army in this brutal way to justify the west lifting of restrictions on the use of
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missiles to hit objects deep inside russian territory and to attract support from the countries of the global south. so lensky is click is neglecting the lives of ukrainian children who have been put at risk in this way. now it seems the key of what we need go to great labs to essentially gain the upper ahead in his confrontation with russia. party correspondence in mind is shar taking us through all that super. thank you now with our t once again in the firing line for u. s. law enforcement, as we're speaking about earlier, next cross talk asks what scotts washington's technic. perhaps so worried about in media organized as peter and guess the the
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hello and welcome to trash that bullhorn is on peter level. nato is on the verge of a major military escalation against russia. nato is thinking the unthinkable. we explain why also ortiz again in the news west and the leads are obsessed with our tea. we must be doing something right. discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george, send me while we in budapest, these are pod castro at the golf voltage, meet out on youtube and locals and assemble. we have that $80.00 a month. he is a historic and political commentator. i totally cross that girls in effect. that means you can jump any time you want that. i always appreciate it. all right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. over the last week, there has been an intense discussion about ukraine using long range missiles. obviously, western made nato made to be um, um,
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used against um, being turned in interior of russian. what was wrong about that story, and as i suggested in my introduction, this is a nato strategy. this is what nato wants to do. and essentially, you will have nato, a back troops in russia proper today in the course guerria. but there's no denying the nato is at war with russia. been that is the double speak that we keep getting from western and it leads to this day, is that no, no, no, no, we're not part of the conflict. well george, the rubicon has been crossed. go ahead, but you're absolutely right for you to and it is quite extraordinary that the nato ventures, particularly in the united kingdom, but in many parts of europe. uh, i'll just going whoa and thinking yeah, we can take the take this additional step. uh, because uh,
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built in his block thing area, you know, everything in a book, we don't have to worry about anything. but putin has to say. and it is very, very strange because um, earlier uh, in the week uh, booked, it had issued a very explicit stage. and now they, they, you know, they have been russian leaders, a car and the lady who been through just through the mouth solve and make all sorts of, uh, threatening declarations. but bolton is never done that. so it's been quite measured in, in anything that he says here he was very specific. he said that if you take this that you know what you call, and they allow in ukraine to use your misses, which is a misnomer, because essentially you will be using this most of the view. and ukraine cannot use these measures by them. so ukraine needs all this, the satellite technology, the gps targeting everything that, that's the only the nato countries can provide that. so therefore,
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if you don't take this step, it means essentially nato is a war with the roster up. and we will then act accordingly. that's a very that was very specific. and so for the western countries, particularly in the united kingdom with the nearest 5, former u. k. defense secretary select issued a statement for the upgrade to the stall shadows immediately. so it means that the, there's a complete lunacy that is ripping the west. i mean they, they seem to be good, got into this habit of fighting awfully as a small, feeble of power as the co cost it back in the pool. the, you know what the, your rock roll wrapping syria working panama. hate it. well, i think that the same thing applies to rush or, or don't have to take anything that you say sir, that was just or is just a thing. so we can just go ahead and do whatever we want to do. and the remarkable thing is that they don't have a plan b. well, what if russia isn't bluffing?
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then what are you going to do? what, what's your plan or an event? no, no, i did get on that website and look at the president putin's words here and then move which meaning the, giving the ukrainians access to these long range missiles which george has but rightly pointed out can not be used without nato assistance. this move, wade called, change the very nature of the conflict and would mean nato and russia. were it more miss? this is the very plain speaking here. the president went on to say, they even more than rush, you would take appropriate decisions coming. this is pretty clear stuff, these are a single syllable words that are being used and i don't know what there is to be to, to be misunderstood. go ahead. but if, if people are in the best of all, i should say he gets the so called the dates of the west was the reason i believe the normal and had phenomena intelligence working out. i mean, like the intelligence that makes it has more then these, what should suffice,
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right? absolutely, and maybe they have fun though. but the problem is that as the georgia also pointed out, they have gotten into the bad habit of mistake and continue with the rest of the restraint, which has saved us up until now from escalating toward the suite for a message. that means that the rush of a never hit back at the under any circumstances, even if they get that closely involved in directly attacking bid from ukrainian territory deep into its own territory, right? this is what we're talking about here. that is totally insane. may be the message that i put in sends out as good. so i would add one thing, which is, i think the, the thing that is saving the world right now is that the rest of the data shift makes a distinction which is very important. and this is my guess, and that's between the can be as one of us if they chose to do so. but i will be
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respond to that is our decision. i that i think is the position of the russian leadership. what they have told us. and i'm thinking you also have a statement that they meet at bas golf to speak of putting made on the reference of september. once they have told us is the be the response by the way to be a response. but they have also actually left it open, what kind of response they be? so they have various options. i personally think a likely one is if the best finding the takes a step is that they were on the best opponents in the rest of the world. and then not only ons and this rushing weapons, which would be one step think with, and this was what's of being included, 2 bedrooms a bit. i'm pleased to know how david told them how these weapons are made. you can add to that all, i don't know, how is it russia has access to via the it's connect chose to china on north korea,
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iran and so on. this, all of this is made available to proponents of the best say in the middle east, bend to these conflict, very painful price, very painful cost, honestly. okay. on the us, on fries there, larry, believe that a very, very valuable, as george pointed out, basically these are not your powers. and when these, uh well, um, uh well, my new powers are uh, upgraded, but technology done. they become very fierce. okay. george, explain to me, you know, i'm just a talk show host. oh is gaming ukraine, these missiles under american and nato guidance? how is that helping you, cree, it was, it isn't helping ukraine because some the, the various numbers were guessing for the scale of the casualties so far. i just the staggering, i mean, they just mind boggling and on both sides. um,
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but what's really going on here is this latest scribe, the j of keeping the world going. they don't really have any and goal. if you were to ask any needs or leave the will. okay, what's, what's your opinion gave me what, what, what would you settle for? what, what would you claim as a, as something a result that is achievable and, and doable and was like to secure your interest. they wouldn't be able to answer, but just say we need to stop boot and we need to prevent bolton from winning because they put in wins and they come cuz you're up. and that's really the problem . but the latest strategy is, well, let's keep this will going and, and that's where the, the, the problem live we have here, which is the major can do this. i mean, if your brain is willing to do this, they will need the grain is willing to sacrifice thousands upon thousands of, of its own people. then, well, it can be, you know,
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just indefinitely expensive. and that's will really need to, once they just wants to be in this position, that whatever rusher it achieves in the dumbass, they can keep loving missiles into russia and keep raising the costs for offer and say, hey look, you wanted security. the last thing you got is security as of, that's why it's a um, such a dangerous situation because because neither has no uh and getting no final. uh, go in gold inside. they can just do this and say, hey, look, wait, wait, inflicting pain on russia. you know, it's funny, one of the problems here is that, you know, well, i'm looking at the 3 of us here. right now. we're all children of the cold war and the level. yeah. what, what, how we got through the cold war. the conflict between the soviet union, it's satellites, and the west, the united states, and then satellites with deterrence. and deterrence works when both sides believe been deterrence. and one of the problems we have right now and makes it extremely
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dangerous, kind of echoing some of the things that george says is that the west does not no longer believes and that russia does. that's a, that's a recipe for disaster. i think you're right. i would add one since the also good says the coolant and will it because what i'm lucky and even determines are such, you know, if you need to define intervention to survive as a species. we know about some of the incidents of video going. they loc saved us of us. 1962 was 1. 1983 was another one. i won't go into the details, but this idea that people have the cold war was perfectly managed. that these cities on both sides of the things under control all the time, it's completely wrong. we also go through because of the lucky and if it had gone on much longer, sooner or later, we both have run out of luck, right? so if we start a new quote was, this is going to happen. but the other thing i would like to add is that the list
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has, as we know, pursuits this proxy award, visit the knowledge a to inflate for the called a strategic defeat on russia. they wanted to move to russia in the international system. that's the idea, right. and now they have reached the point for this has obviously an outdoor and what is so terrible that i'm not shying back from boeing even further. they're going into a space, rushes nuclear deterrence does come into play as the russians have, want them very approximately several times. and then be at one point about your prior question is why is the best of doing this? i think george is absolutely right, but for some alice's, i would add something as i think the best has a double gang here. wagner has tried to make those more elders and bleed russia. that's the idea. they don't notice they're bleeding themselves meanwhile, but we also is, if the war is to be lost, then they've gone to crane to go 1st and acknowledge that ukraine is supposed to
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throw in the tower. and one way to do this is let you frame to, these resides even deeper into russia. let the russians q to, but an ad ukraine, because that they definitely blew. and when the agreeing has absorbs that less than let the ukrainians finally. so for pace, because then those western politicians cancel up a hand and say, we have always said we will support you to the end. but if you wanted to end, all right, so there is a double strategy here. it's also about the possible exit from this last war from this last proxy war for best on the lead, the day that i agree with you. but the problem is, i don't think the saying in nato a lead to will ever see another opportunity to inflict us with dietrich if the doctor watches why don't think they're going to give up. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some illness statements are to the
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the discounts dodge the journey, the, the, you ready to come along the welcome edge, across that bull horns. i'm getting a little here. we're discussing some roommates. george, you are frequent. uh, i guess the r t. how do you hear you? you're a frequent guest and you're in a very, very popular and pacific, right or so this news outlet again is in the news. okay, well we like to report the do is we don't always like to be the center of the news, but this is what's happening. george day you and i have talked to head length about the phenomenon called the rustic gave hopes by heart determination were about 3 point. oh, we could be more nuanced. 85 point. oh, i'm not really sure. um, but you know what's going on here. i mean r t has been banned in the west or overall. it's a lot on youtube. um, uh,
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we have uh this uh, uh, new iteration nebraska gave her some. um uh right wing cut um influencers were somehow um, quoting go paid off or you know what, we still don't know a lot of the details about that. that's why i want to waste a lot of time on it. but when, when is the point here? i mean, it seems to me, in my humble opinion, mrs. focus the, the, the obsession they have with r t is the obsession with their own publics. having access to other points of view . but it's the attack on western republics, not on party, not on russia. and george, i, i agree with you, be that because when you look at see, the oxy basically is west and those west and those appearing on the platform provided by russia. so there, there is a, you know, they keep talking about the propaganda from the kremlin. there is no propaganda from the criminal. i mean, if it goes everybody who appears on the, to actually lives in the west and is it isn't a,
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this isn't voice in the west. so it's just simply the presentation of alternative points of view to the west and probably the needs of that, which is the in the process of goals. and then some of the, and this is the other piece with the attack on the twitter, with the attack on the door of and telegram, which is the suppression of all. this was an opinion, an interesting enough list of this horrible preacher, jamie rubin, who's the head of this, the state development side, global engagements, that the he gave us news conference last week and he explained why this of this attack on nancy's as well. we're losing the war in the, in the public opinion, all throughout the chair to since you mentioned that will read the quote, you will go right back to you. this is the quote from the state department r t is one of the reasons the world has, has been not fully supportive of ukraine. that is from the us state department.
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keep going join us. that's exactly. exactly. so we've, we've gone out of all way to tell the world this how terrible russia is, and how we muscle or rally behind the united states. and they, so in this, perhaps the war in ukraine and the rest of the world is in buying it. and why is in the rest of the world buying it out? see? so what the, this new attack analogy is about is we have to do is to really go off to the rest of the world and to tell them you need to band to you. and that's really what the units, amount of it. why do you need to do it? and then they come up with these loaded crisp explanations, lockable explanation as well. and they've got the cyber capability. and so they're engaged and intelligent. what does that mean, george? we had actually didn't mean to that interested in that office of the internet. that's a cyber capable and it's able to use it literally the you,
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if you mean the criticism here, i suppose the state department officials have to use the vpn to watch it. okay. i'm, i'm not really sure how they watch in here, but if you want to, um i and i invite a viewers of this program. what and watch an entire day of our tea look at all, but the news bulletins and all that. there's no one coherent draw of focus targeted message. all we get is people are just boy and honest. people disagree a lot the, there's a lot of disagreement on our tea itself. ok, there's no uniform method. this is jordan said, we have westgate or is coming on and criticizing policies of their own governments and global institutions. but there's no one single critique go ahead cutting. nope. i think, you know, both of, that's the right above the way in which a t is a platform really for best on this. it doesn't buy sense. and then when you notice, you know, solving history late. so it gets to, you could say that, i think as
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a tom is dot of the west. now, right, this is called russia actually facilitates west of this. it is to speak back to the west. that is one thing that or them and of course, which is lots of right, that is, this is part of a logic pattern. i would add the attack on tape talk as what, right? so as we are attacking every thing that provides a platform for tentative points of view, which is very, very clear, the same then i found very interesting about this announcement is specifically the point about the globe besides right. obviously it is a very colonialist mindset, right? aspect times or other people in the global falls do not have what you write against, always happen, preston disclose, manic agency. they don't shows to watch a t somehow up to you is manipulating that and by this tattoo a lot about the ways they see the cobra. falls maybe an extremely arrogant terms. and what is interesting, 2nd to you about this, is that they apply the same logic to their own publics right at home. so they treat
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that wisdom complex was the same arrow. goods is the same basic, the colonialist outcomes that they treat, the public's off the global south, the only ones in the mended nation of these west and they lead to have any right to actually make their own choices. are very them sense right now, even though on societies no outside of the globe that solves can anybody as less be left to their own devices to actually figure out what they want to hear? listen to a watch. now i don't think this will provide, i think this is, is so ridiculous, says once again, i think this is a cellphone, a mess of stuff on it. i want to actually work in a no charge. it's interesting if we look at the, the timeline that's going on, this attack, reason attacked by the d o j r, and hard t comes when kamala harris is a poll, numbers weren't as good as everybody was hoping on the political left of next month
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. russian will host a very significant brick summit, is getting a lot of a lot of excitement. a lot of people are going to be showing up. it's going to be a big deal as they say here. this, the timing of this attack are to, can be a coincidence. no, i don't think so. i think it's a, it is tied to the election. it's cool that clearly a very anxious about getting a comma harris across the finish line. the pulling numbers are not right, and this is a 5 of it is about it. and somehow russia is interfering in alexis. russert is somehow preventing call out or is from when a permit it's broke. the russians are preventing the american seeing the glory of a common law, harris. and there's no question this is, this is a, uh, absolutely a proud of it. um, but it is the issue is that it's a massive failure on the pop of the united states to persuade the rest of the world
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. and it's a sole point that you know, they have all these um, uh, these boats in the united nations and then they keep demolish. you have to impose sanctions and rushing up and both sides are you go to stop doing business and no one's buying and they get a good continue to do business with russia. and oh, yeah. and so this is a real feeling that we've got to do something and incidentally, what are the, you know, when reuben was speaking to, reuben was explicit in strengthening. it was basically rings, threats against the, the global. so that you, if you don't label with us, we're going to make life very, very painful for, you know, you see all these instruments. we have financial science since economic sanctions. um, you know, either way we can stop the leasing the justice department against you. you said this explicitly, so you know, you better play bull with us and stop cutting the off. so teddy a george's, absolutely, and all that their tool box as it were. but this is an admission that they can't within the argument. yeah, that's fine. important. i think because of all in, in,
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in western philosophical thinking, right, it's an extremely old argument that goes back to one of plato's dialogues. with that they explained that the best rhetoric the best, the bad thing takes me, is to have the better case. no traits, river place but, and they're coming up against the spot z. i actually the ones deploying a most amount of very, very resource propaganda around a lot, but it doesn't add up. so the opponents, including those who speak on out to you, but not only have the bad cases and lose begins to tell, that's what they're coming up against. and that's why they're so frustrated. let me add one point. as we're talking about this threats for the iphone, particularly, and that's about what the said is that the legs are that a t is the fact or an intelligence or has or does the intelligence work. now remember, the is phones case that was all built on the same light that i saw was not an
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investigative journalist. and publish a bought an intelligence agent, and that's how they punished him for almost 20 k. it's the fact onto the finding the remove the clause from him because the couldn't get him to give us a, in the end. but this particular link to claim that journalism is somehow intelligent. so bringing that into position, i think to use it against more individuals, surveys that use that against a thoughts i agree, you know, in georgia and the last couple of minutes cycles. we had my interview with victoria new and essentially admitting what the 3 of us and much of our audience knew to be the united states and particularly the u. k. torpedo, a peace negotiation early on an account like any, any great. we were all called conspiracy. there as we were called nutters, we were called a bit, so you've got everything that made you can possibly say is
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a slower, but we weren't right. then we were right. ok, go ahead. we were right, but of course of no one contribute. acknowledges that any more than any want to acknowledge that the who the people who are right about the, the iraq invasion being in the box and list of them because they didn't have weapons of mass destruction. but the people who judge that invasion were rewarded with lucrative media gigs in a self, de dogs cheney mania in the united states. right. i tell you exactly. i mean, and now allow is, is boasting boasting. but she's getting the endorsement of dick cheney in the list . jane know, i mean the input and what you on did the is admit that you sabotaged a possible piece. there was a, you know, more than 2 years ago. you sabotaged it, you know, whole, these lives go, have been saved, and really that's been barely any attention paid in in the west media. so, but when kill style goes to washington. so how the media presented as well. this is
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a really an important step towards achieving peace in ukraine. no, that's okay about continuing the killing continue. the escalation was on how they present that as a, as a, as the roku pleased when there was a possibility, a peace and a uh, and newland johnson and the rest of them sabotaged it. all right, gentlemen, have covered a lot of ground here. i want to take my guessing assemble and, and do the peasant of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us. here are d. c. and next time. remember prescott was the fine. scott bennett, i'm a former united states army psychological warfare officer. really served in the state department counterterrorism office under investor del daily the
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. so i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and to gather the facts, to take back to the american people, the hold on bass of the front line. so this is where the bombs and the bullets are raging. this is where people are dying. this is where the buildings are exploding the go. i wanted to see 1st hand the scars of war. the
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key, i suppose, that with a list of felonies are trying to recruit volunteers for ukraine's military. we take a closer look at the electric stuff back to the 2nd. the south nation attempts of donald trump is complex, is definitely black and white is about good versus evil grains of the rest of the world, caring and generous on self concept. given this aspect of snow on public activity in the ukraine point is like some permanent stages of questions. whether an individual was such a track record was asking the alleged trump shooters, personal and public participation in military activity in ukraine. it is hard to imagine this white house is a.
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