the, the hello and welcome to transcribe bullhorn john peter lavelle. nato is on the verge of a major military escalation against russia. nato is thinking the unthinkable. we explain why. also our t is again in the news. western relates, are obsessed with r t. we must be doing something right to discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel way in budapest. he's a pod cast or the guy i've always cleaned out on youtube and locals and assemble. we have studied serial a month. he is a historic and political commentator. i totally cross that girls and the fact that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciated. all right, let's kick it off with george in budapest, over the last week, there's been a intense discussion about ukraine using long range missiles.

obviously western made, made, made to be um, um, used against um, being turned in interior brush. and what was wrong about that story? and as i suggested in my introduction, this is a nato strategy. this is what nato wants to do, and essentially, you will have nato, a back troops in russia proper today in the course guerria. but there's no denying the nato is at war with russia. been that is the double speak that we keep getting from west or know it leads to this day? is that no, no, no, no, we're not part of the conflict. well george, the rubicon has been crossed. go ahead, but you're absolutely right for you to and it is quite extraordinary that the nato ventures, particularly in the united kingdom, but the many parts of europe. uh, just gung ho and thinking yeah, yeah, we can take the take this additional step. uh, because uh,

booked in his bluffing area, you know, bring in a book. but we don't have to worry about anything that putin has to say. and it is very, very strange because um, earlier uh, in the week uh, booked, it has issued a very explicit stage. and now the, you know, they have been russian lead is a car on blue who tend to just shoot the mile, solve and make all sorts of, uh, threatening declarations. but bolton is never done that. so it's been quite measured in, in anything that he says here he was very specific. he said that if you take this that you know what you call, and they, you know, allow in ukraine to use your message, which is a misnomer, because essentially you will be using this. most of you, ukraine cannot use these massage by them. so ukraine needs all this, the satellite technology, the delayed gps, targeting everything that, that's the only the nato countries can provide that. so therefore,

if you don't take this step, it means essentially nato because of war with the roster up. and we will then act accordingly. that's a very that was very specific. and so for the west and countries, particularly in the united kingdom with the nearest 5 former u. k. defense secretary select issue. the statement can be of great in the stall shadows immediately. so it means that the, there's a complete lunacy that is ripping the west. i mean they, they seem to be good and got into this habit of fighting awfully as a small, feeble of power as the cool kind of hit back. you know, for all the, you know, what the rock roll wrapping syria working panama hate it. well, i think that the same thing applies to rush or, or don't have to take anything that you say, sir, that is so, so, and he's just offering. so we can just go ahead and do whatever we want to do. and the remarkable thing is that they don't have a plan b. well,

what if russia isn't bluffing? then what are you going to do? what, what's your plan for it? and then no, no, i did begun that. let's take a look at the present inclusions, borton's here, and then move, which meaning the, giving the ukrainians access to these long range missiles, which george has but rightly pointed out cannot be used without nato assistance. this move, wade called, change the very nature of the conflict and would mean nato in russia where it war based. this is the very plain speaking here. the president went on to say that you know, more, that russia would take appropriate decisions coming. this is pretty clear stuff, these are a single syllable words that are being used and i don't know what there is to be to, to be misunderstood. go ahead. but if, if people are in the best of all, i should say he gets the so called the dates of the west was the reason i believe the normal and had phenomena intelligence working out. i mean,

like the intelligence that makes it has more then these what should suffice, right? absolutely, and maybe they have fun now. but the problem is that as the george also pointed out, they have gotten into the bad habit of mistake and continue with the rest of the restraint, which has safe us up until now, from escalating towards the suite for a message. that means that the russian, remember a hit back at the, under any circumstances, even if they get that closely involved in direct the attacking bit from ukrainian territory deep into its own territory, right? this is what we're talking about here. that is totally insane. maybe the message that i put in send out has got so i would add one thing, which is, i think the best thing that is saving the world right now is that the russian would be to ship makes a distinction, which is very important. and this is my guess, and that's between the can be a lot of us if they chose to do so,

but i will be respond to that is our decision, right? so that i think is the position of the russian leadership. but they have told us, and i'm thinking you also have a statement that they meet at bas golf to speak of putting made on the reference of september. once they have told us is the be it'd be the response by the way to be a response. but we have also actually left it open, what kind of response the be? so they have various options. i personally think a little like a bond is if the best finding the takes a step is that they were on the best opponents in the rest of the world. and the right not only ons and this rushing weapons, which would be one step think with, and this was also being a little bit too bad. i don't think that i'm very small. how david, tell them how these weapons are made. you can add to that, all of them know how that works or has access to,

via the it's connect chose to china, north korea, iran and so on. this, all of this is made available to opponents of the best thing in the middle east. these can inflict very painful price, very painful cost, honestly. okay. on the usa, on fries there. larry, believe that the very, very valuable, as george pointed out, basically these are not your powers. and when these uh well, um, uh, well, my powers are uh, upgraded with technology, then they become very fierce. okay. george explained to me, you know, i'm just a talk show host. oh is giving ukraine these missiles under american and nato guidance. how is that helping ukraine or whatever because it isn't helping ukraine because some the, the various numbers that were guessing for the scale of the casualties so far, i just staggering. i mean, they just mind boggling and on both sides. um,

but what's really going on here is this latest scribe, a jay, of keeping the wall going. they don't really have any and goal if you were to ask any needs or leave the will. okay, what's, what's your opinion game and what, what, what would you settle for? what, what would you claim as a, as something a result that is achievable and, and doable and was like to secure your interest. they wouldn't be able to answer, but just say we need to stop boot and we need to prevent bolton from winning because they put in wins on the account cuz you are a and that's really the problem that the latest strategy is. well, let's keep this will going and, and that's where the, the, the, the problem live we have here, which is the major can do this. i mean, if you great is willing to do is it will need the grain is willing to sacrifice thousands upon thousands of, of its own people, then the, well, it can be,

you know, just invested at least expensive. and that's will really need to, once they just wants to be in this position, that whatever rusher of achieves in the dumbass, they can keep loving missiles into russia and keep raising the costs for offer and say, hey look, you wanted secure, it's a, the last thing you got is security as of that's why it's a um, such a dangerous situation because because neither has no uh and getting no final. uh go end goal inside. they can just do this and say, hey, look, we weighed inflicting pain on russia. you know, the tiny point of the problems here is that, you know, well, i'm looking at the 3 of us here, right now. we're all children of the cold war and the low. yeah. what, what, how we got through the cold war. the conflict between the soviet union, it satellites in the west, the united states, and then satellites was deterrence. and deters works when both sides believe been

deterrence. and one of the problems we have right now and makes it extremely dangerous, kind of a echoing some of the things that george says is that the west us no no longer believes in that russia does. that's a, that's a recipe for disaster. i think you're right, i would add one since the also good for the cold war because because what i'm lucky isn't deterrence such, you know, if you need to define intervention to survive as a species, we know about some of the incidence of really going the luck safe to us of us. 1962 was 1. 1983 was another one. i won't go into the details, but this idea that people have that the cold war was perfectly managed. but these are these on both sides of the things under control. all the time, it's completely wrong. we also go through because of the knocking and if it had gone on much longer, sooner or later, we both have run out of luck, right? so if we start a new quote was, this is going to happen. but the other thing i would like to add is that the list

has, as we know, pursuits this proxy award, visit the knowledge a 25th for the called a strategic defeat on russia. they wanted to move to russia in the international system. that's the idea, right? and now they have reached the point where this has obviously my on board and what this will turbo, that i'm not showing back from boeing even further. they're going into a space versus nuclear deterrence does come into j as a vessels of want them very approximately. several times and then be at one point about your prior question is why is the best of doing this? i think george is absolutely right, but for some analysis i would add something as i think the best has a double gang here. one is try to make those more elders and bleed russia. that's the idea. they don't notice the bleeding themselves mean what? but we also is, if the war is to be lost, then they want to crane to go 1st and acknowledge that ukraine is supposed to throw

in the tower. and one way to do this is let you frame to, these resides even deeper into russia. let the russians q to but an ad ukraine because that they definitely blue. and when the a green has absorbs that less than let the ukrainians finally. so for pace, because then those western politicians kind of fill up a hand and say, we have always said we would support you to the end. but if you wanted to end, all right, so there is a double strategy here. it's also about the possible exit from this last 4 funds. this last proxy for 4, based on the lead, the day that i agree with you. but the problem is, i don't think the saying in nato a lead to will ever see another opportunity to inflict this with dietrich. if he does the roger, why don't think they're going to give up gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some illness, stay with our to the,

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a freak the guest and you're in a very, very popular and pull the big right. or this news outlet again is in the news. okay . well, we like to report the do is we don't always like to be the center of the news, but this is what's happening. george, you and i have talked to headlines about the phenomenon called the rest of gave hopes by heart determination. we're about 3 point oh we could be more nuanced. 85 point. oh i'm not really sure. um, but you know what's going on here? i mean r t is been banned in the west or overall. it's not on youtube. um uh we have uh this uh, uh, new iteration. investigate where some right wing like influencers were somehow um, quoted for paid off or you know what, we still don't know a lot of the details about that. that's why i don't want to waste a lot of time on it. but what, what is the point here? i mean, it seems to me, in my humble opinion, misses focus the, the, the obsession they have with

r t is the obsession with their own publics. having access to other points of view, but it's the attack on western republics, not on our tea, not on russia. and george, i, i agree with the be the, because when you look at see the all, all to basically is west and those west and as appearing on a platform provided by russia. so there, there is, you know, they keep talking about the propaganda from the kremlin. there is no propaganda from the criminal. the big goes, everybody, what appears on the, to actually lives in the west. and these, it is in a, this of invoice. in the west, there's just simply the presentation of alternative points of view to the west, and probably the needs of that, which is the, in the process of government. some of the and this is a piece with the attack on the twitter with the attack on the door of and telegram, which is the suppression of rule. uh, this was an opinion,

an interesting enough on this, on this horrible preacher, jamie rubin, who's the head of this uh, state development side, global engagement said that he gave us news conference last week and explain why this, this attack or nazi's as well. we're losing the war in the, in the public opinion, all throughout the year to since you mentioned, al, read the quote, you know, go right back to this is the quote from the state department r t is one of the reasons the world has, has been not fully supportive of ukraine, that is from the us state department. keep going your that's, that's exactly exactly it. so we've, we've gone out of all way to tell the world this how terrible russia is and how we muscle rally behind the united states. and they, so in this, perhaps the war and ukraine and the rest of the world isn't buying it. and why is in the rest of the world buying it?

i see. so what the, this new attack analogy is about is we have to, is to really go off to the rest of the world and to tell them you need to band to you. and that's really what the units amount of this one. but why do you need to do it then that and then they come up with these lower, they crisp explanations. law who will explanation as well. and they've got the cyber capability. and so they're engaged and intelligent. what is that lead? george? we had actually didn't mean to that, i'm interested in that office to the internet. that's a side route tape abilities. the able to leave the if you, if you need the criticism here, i suppose the state department officials have to use the vpn to watch it. okay. i'm, i'm not really sure how they watch it here, but if you want to, um, i can, i invite a viewers of this program lot and watch an entire day of our tea. look at all, but the news bulletins and all that. there's no one coherent draw of focus

targeted message. all we get is george's boy and honest people disagree a lot. there's a lot of disagreement on our tea itself. ok, there's no uniform message. this is jordan said, we have westgate or is coming on and criticizing policies of their own governments and global institutions. but there's no one single critique go ahead, cut it. nope. i think you know, both, and that's the right above the way in which a t is a platform really for best of this it doesn't voices. and then that way you're noticing those over in the history late. so it gets to, you could say that to you and so tom is dot of the west. now, right? this is called russia ac facilitates west of this. it is to speak back to the west . that is one thing that or them and of course, which is also right, that is, this is part of a logic pattern. i would add the attack on tip top as well, right? so as we are attacking every thing that provides a platform for tentative points of views is very,

very clear. the obvious thing that i found very interesting about this announcement is specifically the point about the globe besides right. office is we're glad i colonialist mindset, right? ask for times or other people in the global sales do not have what you find and it's always happen. preston disclose management agency. they don't shows to watch a t somehow a t is manipulate. that right? this tells you a lot about the ways they see the cobra falls, maybe in extremely arrogant terms. and what is interesting, 2nd to you about this, is that they apply the same logic to their own publics right at home. so they treat that wisdom complex was the same arrow. goods is the same basic, the colonialist, our guns that they treat, the public's off the global south, the only ones in the mended nation of the east west. and they lead to have any right to actually make their own choices. all 3 of them sets, right,

nice window and societies know outside of the global styles. can anybody as less be left to their own devices to actually figure out what they want to hear? listen to a watch. now i don't think this will provide, i think this is, is so ridiculous, says once again, i think this is a cellphone, a mess of stuff on it. i want to actually work in a no charge. it's interesting if we look at the, the timeline that's going on, this attack, reason attacked by the d o j r, and hard t comes when kamala harris's poll numbers weren't as good as everybody was hoping on the political left of next month. russian will host a very significant break summit. it's getting a lot of a lot of excitement. a lot of people are going to be showing up. it's going to be a big deal as they say here. this the timing of this attack on our to tent vehicle incidence? no, i don't think so. and i think it's a, it is tied to the election. it's clear that clearly

a very anxious about getting a commer harris across the finish line. the pulling numbers are not right, and this is a part of it is about it. and somehow russia is interfering in alexa the rustic the is somehow preventing call out or is from when encourage brooklyn were russians are preventing the american seeing the glory of a. com a lot higher as, and there's no question this is, this is a, uh, absolutely a proud of it. um, but it is the issue is that it's a massive failure on the part of the united states to persuade the rest of the world. and it's a sole point that, that, you know, they have all these, um, uh, these boats in the united nations and then they keep demonte. you'll have to impose sanctions unless you have to impose century, got to stop doing business. and no one's buying and they get a good i continued to do business with russia. and oh, yeah, and so this is a real feeling that we've got to do something. and incidentally, what are the,

you know, when reuben was speaking to, reuben was explicit in strengthening, issuing threats against the, the global so that you, if you don't play bull with us, we're going to make life very, very painful for, you know, you see all these instruments we have financial science since economic science shows. um, you know, are there ways we can stop the leasing the justice department against you? is that this explicitly so, you know, you better play bull with us and start cutting off the off. so teddy a george's, absolutely, and all that their tool box as it were. but this is an admission that they can't with an argument. yeah, that's fine. important, i think because look in, in, in western philosophical thinking, right, it's an extremely old argument that goes back to one of plato's dialogues web back . they explained that the best rhetoric, the best debating takes me is to have the better case. no tricks been replaced, but they are coming up against the spot z a actually the ones deploying and the

most amount of very, very resource propaganda around a lot, but it doesn't add up. so the opponents, including those will speak on out to you, but not only have to, but the cases and lose begins to test, that's what they're coming up against. and that's why they're so frustrated. let me add one point. as we're talking about this threats for the iphone, particularly um, and that's about what the said is that the labs are that a t is the fact or an intelligence service, or does the intelligence work. now remember, the sounds case that was all built under the same light that i saw was not an investigative journalist. and publish a bought an intelligence agent. and that's how they punished him for almost to the kids defunct, onto the findings, to remove the cloths from me, and because they couldn't get into the usa in the end. but this particular link to claim that journalism is somehow intelligent. so bringing that into position,

i think to use it against more individuals, surveys that use that against a font. i agree, you know, in georgia and the last couple new cycles we had um, like every interview with victoria new and essentially admitting what the 3 of us and much of our audience news of the united states and particularly the u. k. torpedo, a peace negotiation early on in the conflict. any, any great. we were all called conspiracy theories. we were called nutters. we were called a bit. so you've got everything that you can possibly say is a slur, but we weren't right. then we were right. okay, go ahead. we were right, but of course um no one really acknowledges that any more than any want to acknowledge that the who, the people who are right about the, the iraq invasion being in the bucket list of numbers, they didn't have weapons of mass destruction. but the people who judge that invasion were rewarded with lucrative media gigs in a self. de dodson cheney mania in the united states. so i thought i'd tell you

exactly. i mean, amount of dollars is boasting boasting, but she's getting the endorsement. the big cheney and the list jane know, i mean the input and what you will on did the, is admit that you sabotage a possible piece. there was a, you know, more than 2 years ago. you sabotaged it, you know, whole, these lives go, have been saved, and really that's been barely any attention paid in the west media. so, but when kill style goes to washington. so how the media presented as well. this is a really an important step towards achieving piece 8 in ukraine. no, that's okay about continuing the killing continue to the escalation with so how they present that as a, as a, as the roku please when there was a possibility of peace and a uh and newland johnson and the rest of them sabotaged it. all right, gentlemen and covered

a lot of ground here. i want to thank my guessing assemble and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here on a t c. and next time, remember, prospect was the the, if you think about russia, what does your mind picture the landscapes open up before your eyes? the 11 does you imagine

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