ask questions, you should ask all of the questions. some more questions ask the better. the answer is will be the so yeah, he's realise bombing uh, 11 on and we're gonna probably go somewhere safe. breaking news this hour has last ring out in the bay of rooms in our d. corresponded reports in the midst of a new wave of is really a tax on that. but on of the idea of says it's taking the action to secure with the board. it becomes a day after a mass attack across the country which sold thousands of digital devises destination. 37 people were killed in nearly 300. have a critical condition with a government branding it on these ready war crime. official us report to the un says washington's baths council, not cortex efforts,

and they've got it done. an american thing found suggested that that means striking at the bottom of the country's economy, the web is, is, are the international reaching you from august center with moscow. i have my equal quick chat with the updates we start with breaking news now. is there any flights of jets being in action across solving lab and on the idea of says it's targeting has belong in order to secure its northern border. blooms of smoke cost feed, and frederick set to be from south and $11.00 on the strikes of come a day after 2 ways of explosions. 11 on the left, 57 people dead. buried says hazel was behind those attacks in which digital devices were apparently tried to designate the r t corresponded yeah, i've seen that cabinets of the lebanese capital away. he and his team holds up to 5

. the jets overhead and heart explosions which we're preparing. while preparing a report for us. it hasn't even been 24 hours since i set foot inside leaven on engine pay roads. the country's capital. things do seem tense and already ball this house situation seems to be worsening. over the past few hours, we have been receiving reports of this really aggression and offensive of some sorts. $10.00 to $14.00 suggests that it is an old out defensive. of course we don't know the context, but we do know is that is really fighter jets are targeting southern lebanon. but what makes matters a little bit more concerning is while i was setting up for this stand up, is rarely fighter jets, flew over b roots, essentially hinting that the offensive is near at least essentially emphasizing its presence. but the timing of all of this is even more important that is rarely fight or just that flew over the countries capital happened exactly as of the has the low leader and also low was speaking essentially highlighting a number of important matters and looking at some of the fine details as to what he

was discussing. it gives us a better understanding as to what happened on tuesday as well this wednesday, and in one sense or the other what to expect moving forward. that's all i said, that's the acts on tuesday and wednesday constitute impacts of the war. it is aggression, but more broadly said that it is mastercard because the devices that were set up of course, did results in a number of deaths, but money more were injured. he suggests that the initial aim or the intention of a, the, is really intelligence or is really officials was to ensure that they could been tough to incapacitate thousands of people. that the intention there is more important than the result of the investigation is ongoing. but one thing that the leader of hezbollah did say, he said that most devices were turned off, or they were stowed away, as these attacks were happening, which really begs the question, did, has the law anticipate this attack? because there were reports which suggested that the is really military was using this as a method to use against has the law just the head of a counter offensive,

or an all out all campaign or offensive. and so lebanese territories, and this anticipation could have actually exacerbated that developments and actually pushed israel's agenda much so yeah, he's really is bombing lebanon and we're going to probably move somewhere safe and back to the leader of hezbollah. i made a tele vice address to the nation and he said that these role has been conducting terrorist attacks that have found innocent civilians within that that you will have the is rarely anomie these really graphs or oh yeah, it was the blue, off, some free 1000 papers, beaver, blowing up some old penny of sleep, the grass are crossed, all the lines, all the boundaries hold the norms when they launch this separation. the they didn't care about anything, not from the moral standpoint, not from the us to manage the point of view,

not from the political point of view. if this was targeted against has bola came especially a warrior is one thing, but one, yes. well, where people who were next to them guilty own people use beepers in normal life. thousands of people died as a result of this aggression, including children and women, the thousands wearing charity and when it's a terrorist attack and who it is that it's a violent terrorist attack as in genocide to massacre in that case. now funeral is being held across lab and on and some of those events of also being positive. now let's press live to michael model for my pentagon, cd a security policy on the list. and we also have monte j a john list of my grad, b dot org editor, as well as the imagery, the nice folks by sitting in the font is reformist to democratic function. gentlemen, i'm happy to have you all join me right now. a bunch of my thoughts for him. great

not let me start with you martin. the 1st question here is such a 7 people have died and 2900. all those are injured. now we see some of the disapproval from the west. we're seeing appraisal best operations. now let's pick a different before asked the main question. talk about ingenuity. they found a way to in bed with in that some kind of explosive, that one a particular number is called into it is going to explode. that absolutely incredible. it's almost like out of some kind of spine movie, but it just underlines just how imbedded has boy is within the lebanese government and with around, even by the standards of the most side, as well as intelligence agency, famed full or de shows attacks on his enemies this attack was particularly innovative operationally. how brilliant was this, how difficult was it to pull off?

this is an extraordinary intelligent success, but it's one that quite frankly massage, has been operating this way for years. and that's why is real, is still in existence today. free software and democratic country. all right martin, you heard that. how can on a, on the prism like this, but describe us funny, incredible, or evil. now, as the case may be, as i've read it and what do you interpret? what putting aside from you know, sympathy is that we have to lose victims of dentist, evictions of children and bystanders. i understand why people use that language. i understand because, you know, in the region 4 is ready to put off something like that is, is, is, i would say, unless quite genius i mean, is very, very image of very trevor and the hit sensible on several levels. it makes as well look as though it just number the security. it makes sense,

but look weak and um and it wouldn't get an overall of hesitant of man, you know, particularly blind in the boston, blind them, which is a little read, an excellent way of softening up your enemy before you invade. but i think, i think we have to look at this and, you know, from a distance to see what's really going on here. it seems to be the, israel's intelligence was the has blood may well have stumbled onto these or move utilities and the pages and, and that's why you saw a quick reaction for me as well. that, that's one theory which some of this, a bending about. the other one is that, so that the as well is, is, is, is about to invade the southern bit of a level of despite, you know, into occasions before the last one in 2006, when i was the cover that for major wisdom news organization is real, got a bloody nose and uh, and as a bless since that has become much, much stronger and muscle discipline as a, as a flushing m a. so just by the,

i still think there are reasons, well, delusions we should say from, that's me, i from some visibility groceries. that's um, patient provoke, has the into creating a situation whereby they can justify going in again, i'm hopefully with the infrastructure of america. i think that's that's really the strategy you oh, i'm like, i want me to come. mike, let me come to you here. what do you think is the aim of such an operation and what do you interpret all the timing? i think the timing was probably premature. i don't think is or it was ready for this onslaught. i think the what probably occurred is that some of the beepers maybe days even weeks began to get hot prematurely can a began to raise concerns with the hospitalization. these were news, news, news, new pages,

pagers and even even the doctors and hospitals were beginning to discard their pagers out of concern for the overheating. so and so, rather than but months and months go by, i think i think is real, decided to go ahead and launch this or they are their entire clandestine operation would have failed. so, but this also points to protect that potential. i think that there might be a leak with in the, the security apparatus of how's the law and, and i think that they're going to be looking into this a very, very closely. the other problem is they're, they're getting this type of encrypted communications from a offshore, from, from the far east and, and the, and then run, run into through a and then having a run through shell companies, particular the one that hungry that the gold apollo was. so apparently, uh, yeah,

had pets sold its, uh, its copier, its trader trade trademarks too. so it's, um, if you're going to do, if you're going to be uh, secure, you don't do that you, you have an internal ability to, to manufacture this. and that's why they run determine some time ago that it the by becoming more indigenous, it's safe guards and, and gives them a security operational enhancements that way rather than going through a 3rd party. but i think that was, even though this was considered to be an ingenious operation, i think it actually failed 4 date is released at this point and i think the it, and i don't think this really is really we're ready to on to undertake a full of a full throated launch. as a consequence of a, there's only reports now that they're getting some material of like tanks and

whatever you're moving. moving up to the border of all of this was the time it is not right. secondly is israel is not really in a position to fight in gaza then the westbank enough for me to try to take on hospital. that hospital is in a slightly confused state, but it was very clear from sight. and those were all those comments that they're there, there. this is not gonna make them will to, it's not going to make, excuse me, it's not going to make the capitulate in any way. and so consequently, i think they, they could have declared this to be a declaration of war. all right, imagery, let me come to you here. now, besides those who died, we saw hundreds of civilians who are injured. we saw the same thing happen in palestine. people are suffering for something to have no connection with as a case, but why do your thing ease, or at least choosing a best discriminate mazda of war fair?

it's called impunity. israel notes that no harm will come to israel. oh, it's leaders, genocide, delete leaders. even if they continue with their genocide on war crimes and killing children, women and so they know that the united states of america will always protect them. and actually there was a session with the council for relations the just couple of days ago. and the bassett or the united states, and that's that, or to the united nations was asked if a annual international course, if you are the ones that the united states as member of would issue an arrest warrant for nothing. yeah. or any of these really leaders would beat us act upon it and the answer was absolutely will not act upon it. i will not arrest any as a leader. so this is a straightforward select to just this case. and for the state of israel,

just like it, we see a real color. you don't become the serial killer unless you are good at it. a good thing in terms of people. in other words, you don't get to do the crime over and over and over and over again, just like genocide over and over and over again. i left you a really good at it and you have the back. and this is what be the standard because you are and what adds on top of that. there is no morality. this is a racist country premises. but idea all of g built on these foundations that created was educational system. that the kids that you are 3 to everybody around you to the arabs, christians and muslims around you and the educational system that goes even through

to the army you service in the army dehumanizes the others. so was think about killing, murdering a fascinating bombing. even children, schools, holmes become something really boast about, and you can watch that on his radius, those soldiers, social media where they are happy and the jubilee is about the bombing homes in schools and hospitals. this is no way a human values that are acceptable in this a time in this century in this age. but unfortunately is really getting away with it because one, it's good at it because it's done genocide so many times and it has the infinity. it, it says through the united states of america, and it's of course, uh, you know, it's still like germany saying in all these complicit countries in the world runs that this will continuously commit in this part of the world. all right,

martin would let me come back to you now. there is still a lot of reactions on west in need of even in, in fact, some are even making jokes of a crisis in less than a less picket list. and i'll be back for this. the 8 year old she asked if we have our pages only, why do you want them to explode? is that while you're in send you a credit card? so modern, what are your interpret from this kind of a reaction from an american official? it's clear that the western allies isn't the, is what it is. i'm not aware of this particular ministry stunt that's. that's how i interpreted. all right, and that's, that's why the mike, let me, let me come to you now. now, some years ago, the car to try to carry out this similar attack you to by hiding in those to be in ink cartridges. if you, if you remember about that incident,

no one would ask right now what, what do you see about usual using almost the same kind of tactics now as well. it this was that much more sophisticated the effort because you're dealing with the individual items walkie talkies. and it was as well as, um, page or some selves and, and to, to, to have to sophistication, to put an explosive in there. and then and then send a signal is quite extraordinary. i'm not a technical expert, but i think uh they put a lot of effort. i as i understand it, they were at this for months. these trailers were at this for months and the massage was to in order to make this happen. in fact, there was a delay from the time of the order of the, of the pagers to, to the actual delivery. and during that period, that's probably when these transactions occurred and, and,

and perhaps the order itself went to the shell company that actually was the most side front and act they actually put together these, these devices. but uh, again, i get back to the, the operational security aspect of this from fort for hospital. why, why were they so remiss in not understanding this? and they should have checked these so devices before issuing them. and now now they see the consequences now, and i think they can, they have to go to until they can develop their own indigenous capabilities to manufacture. they're going to have to go to your ron to get something in it because that now that they're coming in control and they're, they're committed in an encrypted communications are, are dramatically effected. this could have an impact on their ability to respond and be and be able to counter any attack from this re lease. and that's

why i think, and i pointed this out yesterday on another, on another program here is that, um of this would be the time to actually launch a when we take down the communications. they get it, they, they are unable to coordinate activities. and then you strike and i, but i don't think again is real, was in the position to do that. they have limited their activity so far, just to southern lebanon, but have not come in to be rude, although they're capable of it. but in terms of any tanks moving in any boots on the ground, i think that's going to be quite endeavor. and i think uh at a minimum because of the massive attack that, that, that he, it, not only has some of the, uh, uh, fighters, but also the innocent civilians and their homes. and what have you, uh, this is considered to be a, uh, an attack on the entire 11 east population. and i think that this, the,

i'm told by my sources that the lebanese people for once the factions of christians like the cities, the sheer, are all united now in backend lab and on and backend hospital to respond. and i think is it, i think that and those rallies response could be an attack on for the 1st time on civilian targets inside of israel. all right, talking about the population, different treaty. let me come to you on this upon days, it seems like the aim of this kind of a patient needs to spread fear among the population. how does this differ from terrorism? you know, i believe that the, the, the reason the reason for this operation a mix it so clear that is terrorism demand. reason is political, nothing. yeah. now, according to all the polls in israel is, is gonna have to had oh, neck to neck with, with the opposition in terms of uh,

next elections performance. and he wanted the edge you wanted the bush, you needed that so much things and guys are not going so well. so he looks for the next spring that would make him start and then pushes them over the edge. everything that, that he has been doing since 7th of october is self serving political interest. he is looking to stay in the scene. i'm not through and his political career would defeat in the next elections because that would be the bullet in between the eyes. that would be it for him. so he is extending the war and, and, and gaza didn't point that they are no more because they're just doing so really is left and right. and, and moving refugees here. and there all the time. suffocating the, the a military and 8. and it was back. the starting uh, woke lines of feel the executions 11 on it's the same thing and they are not

drawing enough reaction from his beloved. so they wanted to do something more to make him look good. also the drawer reaction, so they can hit and make sure that this work goes beyond november when after the uh, the elections in the united states of america. now the classic definition of using violence level of genocide, murder and silly is waterfront, using grounds for political ends is a classic definition of tears. and so this is exactly what describes this database . you're not today. nothing so service will have to go from the start the establishment of this. so run this is james, aside a state has been errors and drivers in is just the way it is real. does they? otherwise israel will be in bees. that's what is real,

cannot have peace because terrorism is in bed. it is in its social values, just like supremacy dislike genocide, just like dehumanizing the neighbors. this is terrorism is part of why all right, more modern let me come to you on this, but. busy i like you gentlemen, go on october, the 7th. the is ready. intelligence failed to see the have monster attack coming. well, yeah, the, we're able to carry out this kind of a complex, you know, attack is in level non. what do you make of this discrepancy in the approach? water and blunder, don't it said the man who, who says who they are, what, what proof do we have also i, i take it most skeptical view, which is i think that so on, along the time when you take a really big picture view of what's been going on the last 20304050 is in that pause. well, i think these riley is protection destiny are, have had

a long term agenda to what most of us doing is off the face of the country and push them completely out of particular goals or i'm to some extent westbank. i think that's a late. ready provoking since 2005 since they pulled out because i was just the direction of homeless. i think they were provoking provoking the other student uprising and this was an eligible one. i think they probably had a good idea of probably not doubts the publishers within the day or within a week of when it was going to happen. i believe submission, yahoo news dealt over some of the company. i believe he was planning for it. when you look up the meticulous reaction officer it, you know, um it almost looks like a level districts its middle shop ration i think would be nice if we think so. you know, to the, some just came from nowhere. so it was, it is right. it is particularly the lead by surprise. i don't think i was the case . was there. all right,

thank you gentlemen. we have to leave you here now martin j editor of the my bread b dot org. thank you for joining me in the mike a model for former pentagon senior security, a policy analyst, as well as the dimitri the new spokesperson finance reform is democratic functions . thank you, jeff, and meant for your time. thank you, mike. great. now what do you as report to the united nations has no impact to be i've, i've gotten government in the way it operates in the country, adding that washington supports a you and initiative to establish a company called these efforts in the country. however, what he fails to mention is that the tyler by his already making progress in its effort to clear the poppy fields. this despite the washington freezing off the government's assets, are the shuttle defense key investigates while the gun instead. government is continuously coming on the right time for taking on top of tackling the deadly of opium industry. of the war on drugs used to be big news,

seen is this good job society drug dealers, in gro was what to be wiped out. in fact, the news during itself to a patient of afghanistan and the us attempted over and over to destroy the cultivation of opium pumping fast and failed. now, office 3 is of taking back control. the telephone has all the wiped out the trade reasons to celebrate each think. partly not a new report from the international prices put raises. serious concerns about the impact, right, the taking, the trade is having on the poppy growers. the taliban have launched a campaign against the countries illegal narcotics industry, rounding up drug users, destroying opium, poppy and cannabis fields and arresting. some traders, driven by religious ideology. their initiative strikes at the backbone of afghanistan's informal economy and the livelihoods of the rural poor. the taliban

should be lenient with the poorest farmers as it implements the band. it's not the 1st time these concerns have been raised back in june and you and also highlighted how a crashing opium production afghanistan could drive up with those tests in europe. as hiring, use a switch to synthetic supplies, the result of a pro long shortage of asking opiates could have multiple consequences in afghanistan and in countries of transit and destination for ask and opiates. the purity of hair when on the market is expected to decline. such a switch may pose significant risks to health and lead to an increase and overdose is, especially if the alternative opioids include highly potent substances such as some fentanyl analogs or need a z instead of already emerged in some european countries in recent years. meanwhile, the united states institute of peace has also been raising the alarm, saying the telephone success is bad for the world. it goes zone to warn,

describing the taliban is almost complete, bound the gains poppy cultivation as an important global count to no celtic, some victory. that seems odd when for use, that's exactly what the us said. it won't fit in the trade. it is a tal about achieves those goals and we are hearing warnings of how successful that's being the us still considered as a scanner stone to be a major drug producer here by identify the following countries as major drug transit or major alicia drug producing countries. afghanistan, the bahamas believes bolivia, burma, while it us think tank claims the telephone isn't able to enforce the band has can it stands drug trade is booming under taliban rule. the record so far strongly suggests that the taliban has not enforced its narcotics. pan drug production and trafficking have remained at high levels or increase since the change of regime in afghanistan is a bit confusing. right?

western countries willing to bind, they don't want to bind the taliban a band opiate him puffy, cultivation, but they called in full say, what should you believe the telephone suggests this is a full, sour grapes of i'm the image i didn't move. what is that him cut of him during 2 decades of the occupied forces in afghanistan. the us did nothing but wasted out 20 years. that's why i've gotta stand, was deprived of progress as it is not a single reform was introduced in the country, and instead they supported evil forces to keep the stabilizing the country. for example, they patronized isis in these 2 decades about it during these years of occupation. so they did not work to control drugs. but let me say that their policies, with the main reason of expansion of drugs in the country and the ask um people themselves, the with the major victims of these evils. they destroyed our country 3,

but i need thought of that today. i mean, so many children, women, and old people are using drugs. this is old due to the american is going on, they what part of this business center and even i personally know that they were involved in smuggling drugs through ad transport from up to the west and countries . while it may be easy to dismiss those accusations against the us, the substantial evidence that if the crackdown or puppy cultivation does indeed cause hardship the farm is the u. as bad as the brunt of the blame his polo to the testimony given to the u. k. parliament about counting the caustic policies in the scanner stone during the us led occupation of the country, strong true drivers of the illicit drug economy in security. political struggles and the lack of economic alternatives remain unaddressed and cannot easily be able to come for years to come. o, tentative.