the policy, so they told me that the, the is where it is twice. welcome southern 11, known as the idea of said tom 50. the 100 has bullet positions on thursday. and auntie correspondent reports from they were made the attack so yeah, he's really is bombing lebanon. and we're going to probably move somewhere safe, aggressor crossed all the lines, all the boundaries of the norms when they launched this operation is a violent terrorist attack. it's a genocide, it's a massacre and benita of has the issues of statements accusing as well as being responsible for the terrorist attacks which killed douglas and wounded thousands when electronic devices are loaded across the 11 on

the very well welcome to you. this is on the international with the late as well news update, as always is great to have you with our top story this, our new friends is in the j angus. waves of you is really jets, pounds as well, that positions and 11 on and fresh across the board as strikes the the claims of smoke. well, i think i have a 19 southern 11 on the ideas claims its trust more than a 100 missile launches on to all the has the infrastructure. b is where the government has now warrants where the fitness of several communities in the north to remain near 5 from shelters. the attacks came is really, officials will end of a major military operation against has,

by saying that determined to stop the groups attacks and didn't show tens of thousands of these way. these are able to attend to that. how does the lebanese health ministry stays full of people have been wounded and it is really rate on the town of i'll hand them all say corresponds in yes. and that can was in the lebanese capital where he as his camera crusoe find the jet. so the head and hook the explosions while they were preparing the reports was uh so yeah, he's really is bombing uh, 11 on and we're gonna probably move somewhere safe. but now it's one team of correspondence in the middle east with the latest updates in the mood. so say the lease is not as good as i remember. it's coming back early in october. i remember the people were expecting an imminent assault. something is rarely as, but there was at least some sense of live coming back to live in on. of course, all that time later, we realize that much of the city's capital has in one way or the other been

evacuated. many people are moving to the north of the country where they deem its safer. and the main reason why that happened is, of course, because we understand that the is rabies were trying to extort its presence. it was a psychological attempt at warfare if anything else. and one of the fundamental things is, of course, is real, does do this time and time again. when this happened, i got a message from my friend saying, welcome to live in on of course i knew what that meant. she knew what that meant. but it just of course, highlights the standards of living in pharaohs. while i was filming on thursday, for example, i was in front of a hospital collecting some materials, talking to people on the ground. and there was an explosion not too far away. and many people, of course, panicked people wanted to understand what the situation was. this was on the back of day 2 of the explosions from pages and electric devices. later, did we on oh, of course, understand that it was a controlled explosion by the lebanese military. there was large military presence, we understand that there's a large military presence across the capital. but of course, the other thing that did struck me as odd is when the leader of has the loss of my

fellow was speaking. the vibes that i was feeling across the capital was a lot more different than previous months. normally, celebrations would be held advanced for rallies, would be held in support of hezbollah and muscle. loved this time around. there was no such thing. people are on edge to the extent that statements were being issued on ones. but what's up and tell the brown bag channels suggested people to turn off their devices in and around the speech of the leader of hezbollah to turn the devices off if back, if they could sell them away. that was also a protocol that was recommended to many people across the city. and one more important thing is, of course, well us on this all, i was showing his speech. he did say now on tuesday and wednesday, when the pages were essentially designated, that the intention there was important that although some did die at the intention, there was the kill thousands. any calls that i'm ask or what the g o d is really. i mean, the is really aggressor blew up some 3000 pagers. they were blown up simultaneously

. the aggressor crossed all the lines, all the boundaries, all the norms. when they launched this operation, they didn't care about anything, not from the moral standpoint, not from the humanity point of view, not from the political point of view. if this was targeted against, has the warriors, it would be one thing. but what were the people who were next to them guilty of? people use pages and normal life. dozens of people died as a result of this aggression, including women and children. thousands were wounded. it's a terrorist attack. it's a violent terrorist attack. it's a genocide, it's a massacre. the attacks, of course, are strategic. if we take everything into consideration, i was speaking to some local, some contacts and friends. and they suggest, for example, the medical services are at a point where it is over. well, that both scheduled and reserved operations and surgeries were postponed to a specific date much later in the week of course. and that this is a matter of concern because if the is real, if these really minutes or is considering an all out offensive,

then that overwhelming it's medical and communications infrastructure is going to be important. if israel wants to succeed, what this means of the 11 east side, of course, is that many civilians will suffer as a result of these attacks. and the city of a route as well, for example, is don't as busy as i remember. this is the summer season, it's been tourism is supposed to be the highest. the populace is supposed to be the highest, but it seems that many people are evacuating of lean towards the north of the country towards the mountain side where they feel they will be safe, as they indeed saw on one of israel's fiercest attacks since the war started last october, with dozens, always really jets bomb in southern lebanon for our or is the idea of says they shape such a his balloon size and destroyed about 150 rockets aimed at israel, parts of a total of $1000.00 projectiles. hate. so some missiles made it through causing casualties into separate incidents, the northern israel drone and the rocket explosion killed 2 soldiers,

an injured 9 others. over the last 11 months, 48 is released have died in his viola tags including $25.00 civilians. and we understand that this hasn't yet escalated to a full scale war, that israel is getting ready for the chief of staff approved more action plans earlier. security cabinets meeting was held on thursday to discuss steps to safely bring golden residents back home to push his bowl away from his really vote, and to dismantle their military capabilities. as you remember, tens of thousands of his railways left the north house to his bola joined 10 miles in attacking israel. last year and safe return of these are factories has recently been officially added to war goals. interesting that israel kept quiet while pagers and other devices have been exploded in lab and on. and that was only at the end of the 2nd day, the from going to send it to india will release a brief video saying, just 2 sentences. who knows that we will return the people of the north to the safe

homes. that is what we will do, do so we have to understand the best commercial for israel and the country is ready to do whatever is needed to fulfill this mission and defense minister gallon. tulsa confirmed, that is really a tax will continue and intensify. i mean by, i mean my over the past several days, we have held a series of important discussions. this is a new phase of the war. it best opportunities, but also significant risks. hezbollah feels that it is being persecuted and the sequence of military action will continue. our goal is to ensure the safer to of israel's northern communities, to their homes. as time goes by, his beloved will pay an increasing price. his role is the military leader is, has been saying repeatedly recently that the focus is now shifting to the north. so they want to be have to wrap up the guy, the conflict and return captive still held somewhere in underground tunnels in

dallas. israel floated a new plan to the americans on thursday. the idea is to get over $101.00 remaining hostages, released at once, instead of in stages. in return, they offer free passage to send wire. how must his political leader and anyway, he wants to bring along out of gas. the proposal also includes stopping to fighting and having other countries help rebuild guys at once. how mazda is out. i have to say that israel has pitched this plan before, but since you are turned it down said he'd stay in gaza. however we have to have this done with the situation drastically changed by recent attacks and lab and he might change his mind. we'll have to wait and see what have masses response will be . and the way to all of the attacks funeral procession is being held across the lab and on. and some of those events on wednesday also became targets with more killed and wounded media report. say i explosive devices could have been planted inside

pages and data activated by a message sent to the units. however, it remains on today with well stage the supply chain was compromised. the tie one east, which develops the page and models size. it was responsible coming. they will not be affected on the license by hon gary and company. although the last essays it was just the trader, and when it comes to the will control case which exploded on wednesday, the japanese which originally developed themselves production of the model, stopped a decade ago. so questions were main. we heard from a cyber security expert who described how the explosives could have been prompted no smell to it, just this moment. we know the pages and walkie talkies are exploded with it seems obvious to us that there was an intrusion into the supply chain of these devices and they were added with external modules. we think that among those modules, there was a marker chip powered from the devices battery, including ignition charge and additional explosive. these micro chips will also

likely to include radio, g, s, a modulus, the remote control, and activation of the explosive. such monica chips can be planted at any stages. they are produced on industrial scale and a stab at modules that can be planted either in the carriage or in the factory. as we know so far, the device is going to 11 and came through a long supply chain that included shell companies that did not operate and would most likely link different secret services. in cyber security, we call this a supply chain attack, and we're talking about every possible device be at phones or hardware. several years ago we face cameras rig with explosives in syria. that was a small party that didn't get much media coverage, but the technology was already tested and supplies a brig. cameras happened before myself. i'm scared of what may happen to my both phones and like pages with alkaline batteries. tidings have lithium batteries. lithium is an active metal that is highly explosive by itself, and it's more explain this to ads. the damage will be even worse. given how wide

spread my ball finds all we can predict a huge number of casualties. some reports claim mileage is of the american hospital in bay roads collected all the pages that belong to doctors 10 days ago for repairs passes. us media is not reporting that is well informed to the white house on tuesday, about his plans for the mass attack. and he's ready bold costs to have electricity, as well as the us actually co ordinate to the explosions. however, washington denies it engaged in the mass of with as well. i can tell you is we were not involved in yesterday's incidents or today's in any way. and i don't have anything more here. i have nothing more to add on these instances. i, i, i understand the question about the engage and have a set of goals or speculate about what did or didn't happen or, or who might be response. is there any for intelligence assessment as to

i'm not going to get into intelligence as estimates in assessments from here either . well, any, we discussed the situation with these folks. pause and full thoughts as were full of miss democratic function. dimitri daily, on a, in a, down the possible notice behind the attacks. and the reason for this operation, it makes it so clear that is, there is and demand. reason is polluted, nothing, you know now according to all the poles in his 0 is, is gonna have to add, oh, neck to neck with, with the opposition in terms of uh, next elections performance. and he wanted the edge you wanted that bush, you needed that. so much things you guys are not going so well. so he looks for the next thing that would make him start and then pushes him over the edge. everything that the video has been doing since 7th of october is serving political interest. he is looking to stay in the scene and not the end is political career, which is

a treat in the next elections because that would be the bullet in between the so they want it to do something more to make him look good. also drawer reaction. so they can hit and make sure that this won't goes beyond november when, after the, uh, the election in the united states of america. for 16 years, the west drums up the narrative of that russia instigated the conflict with georgia in 2008. but now the story line has for the parts, the current georgia department is to say is the government bunk bed. and the so called national movement policy were responsible for the escalation all by orders from approved for the test. but the, but the city there was not the issue of starting a war, but the issue of mutual forgiveness and reconciliation that enraged the radical opposition. as it contradicts the reason why the regime of national movements sort of completed an assignment from abroad and began the war in 20 o 8,

it is exactly the reconciliation subject that is tragic for the radical opposition in once again confirms why the georgia dream should get a constitutional majority, once the issue of restoring territorial integrity is back in the agenda, the radical opposition will again follow the order from abroad in hender the restoration of territorial integrity. they started the war and 28 didn't face the war, broke out in 20 away. and on august 7th, the former regime, open fire senior volley instructor severely himself signed up for it. that's not so it's good thing also shoot out. were supposed to pay more attention to the most compelling part, just a bit of background for human august 2000 today to georgia, declared the stats of the military operations, who reclaimed the breakaway republics of kazi, i'm self assess here and began to show the region it responds to russia, sent its troops and to protect the residence that the conflict was over in 5 days, with heavy casualties reported on the georgia inside. and since then,

most school has recognized both right away republics as independent. let's get more details on this. i'm to into the studio, fox on a boy co host devante as well as the department. thanks for coming and we're excited to see. so back in august 2008. you actually have correspondent in south assess you in the conflicts, the guns. can you share with us your experience of that? absolutely. before that i want to just uh, present a little bit of a geo political context because i see these statements the, the for her today from the georgia and leaders. and what's happening within uh, georgia, as a, essentially a continuation of was that confrontation between russian nature that began back in 2008. and perhaps even before that big as russia was extremely anxious about nathan being pushed towards russia's borders. but that conflict was sort of the 1st opening salvo, all the major clash does acquire the kinetic force in your brain right now. so it

was just at the beginning, the russian drew the line saying that, no, you know george, any pray and it will not be members of me during the, if you remember before that's more began, there was also the 2008 need of some of the summit in bucharest at which george w bush made full sort of implicit commitments or implicit invitations to both georgia and to claim that they will soon sooner or later be members of nato on after that, the confrontation of flashes on the border, it intensified. it wasn't just the cypress really or a georgia leadership attacking south west city on 5 in the shelves. the russians peacekeepers on the ground. and you know, there was a low level conflict for a couple of weeks and then it flew out into a full scale confrontation with lots of casualties. so with that, with the georgia department and security, laying the blame on the forward intervention for instigating the conflicts. what if

any of this apparent to you at that time in 2008? well, uh, to be honest with you, it was a very different kind of for a doc time. i mean, the compared to the printer conflict. you actually, i'm, i've probably the couple of conflicts seems to them and each war gives you a new perspective on where level politics is moving because back down there were still assembling. so if, as well as place the types of objectivity. so we were working there and not only of russian reports, but also we had with many western colleagues and the benefits or the, the q average of that conflict was the george and leadership of carpet all cuts, all the communication lines. so we weren't really aware of what was happening in the big holes. we were just stay on the ground under the showing see how civilians were suffering. so i wasn't going to disconnect it from big polls expect down, but it was pretty clear on the ground who started the conflicts down to where the shells and the strikes were coming from. was a history that the western media and been narrative of how the will erupt to at the

time. well again, i can only tell you on how it felt or how it was on the ground. and there are lots of western correspondence. people from france, people from even some americans, i remember, and there was even a degree of colorado room back then, because this is something that you wouldn't get them ukraine. russian reporters cannot go to the ukraine in uh, you know, side of the conflict and reports from their back and the time it was possible. but clearly the west was using. it's a massive advantage in mobile communications. and mind your arts. he was just the little channel at that time. we were creative, i think, 3 years prior. and for us it was the one of the 1st major international conflicts that the covers. and i think we play the major all in shifting the narrative and the that was the beginning of the a western grudge against us. because uh, we were bringing nothing on political stories, but the reporting from the ground showing how people were suffering. and like in

the city of king valley where i was, it was totally cut off from supply lines. people didn't have much to eat. people didn't have any ability to leave the cd to, you know, it was a, a major gamble by success really, who just saw that the okay. it's a little regional sport that he can get away with whatever 2 political plans he had a bad time was. the media had been accused of a publishing fake news on the complaint to the time and such as the lead shelling of amal kids in the city of gore, 8 by russian troops correspond that was actually on the sports and showed that the market was in touch do you remember about, can you show that i think that it was to me and at the time it was a fairly young corresponded that was just all from my american studies. i in journalist virus was a student of journalism in the united states. and i was like an arm or is with christ, gentleman for and all of these big names and in journalism and one thing to be

a balanced and objective. and it was a real eye opening experience to me have to see that very cynical play book that the western authorities use in terms of when they, you know, send their informational trips to cover conflicts. because, you know, the same people who would be, you know, observing things that were happening around us would file later on would file the reports that have absolutely nothing to do with, with the realities on the ground. i don't think all western journalists behave like that, but uh, you know, if it was a very or, well, the scientist has crashing experience to me personally and professionally because you could see how cynical people could be in the what voices at the time that he was defending rushes accent and saying that successfully was to blame but they was silenced. we can actually take a look at a clip. and remember that moment that said mr. saca smeeley hall

stopped at the floor and mister psychiatrically, who's aggressive and who, who, who died 2 days my, my people said he and people were shield anywhere on the wrong and to thousands people of puberty one day. that's what i am a guess. i would never tell you what's really a commercial break will take us. there is 4 seconds whether we the she has to have the right. yeah. with us since day, bye. back with this from san francisco. this program ends in less than a minute. but i want to give you 30 seconds to complete your thought we, we can blame only one person and georgia department. i'm not going georgette. georgia people. i'm going georgia and government and she has to resign and well, and i certainly will rush. i want you to have more time, you would get it, but i have but 5 seconds. thank you both. so one example, i'm fine. yeah. but the pay attention. it was flocks, who at that time was supporting policies of their republican president george

w bush. i think if that were to happen today, perhaps folks would have a slightly different perspective. but i think that shows here that the, the end of the day american corporate media are pursuing that own corporate or sometimes national interest. both have very little to do with the, the actual covering of the facts on the ground as they, you know, play out, always controlling the narrative. fine. well, it's not the controlling. i think uh for many of them its team is a huge surprise that somebody can not only oh for alternative viewpoint, those are 2 was doing at the time, but even have dots to stick to that mean because uh that was, i remember that that was the 1st experience of the warren and the raf that the western colleagues started to show it to windsors despite the fact that we were there on the ground in nothing the comfortable studios. they were like these. i

would, they should have him being sort of a on pigeons payroll or put in a simple size or as if that somehow matters to what you observe. because what you observe, what these people were relating, has nothing to do with which. and they were speaking out for that own relatives who were there and sleeping by the way of that time wasn't even present. and she was prime minister. it wasn't him who made the decision to send from there. it was a russian present, which reminded from a couple of years later when i interviewed him about that conflict, you said that it was also a very painful decision for him at the time. because imagining that russia good, you know, use it's military, once again in the post. soviet space was unimaginable. but at the same time, this is something that western policy of politics and policy is pushed. russian leadership wants to because the russians, one to me, the 1st time they tried to negotiate that with george w bush on several occasions. but if you remember that conflict started during the

lympics and beijing when world's attention was away. and i think that was a gamble that success really was playing that you know, and miss all the confusion and destruction. i guess what he wanted an equity is it's not just a few people who are highlights in either the real situation. even an e u box independent report showed that georgia triggered the wall when i talked with heavy artillery on the night of 7th to the 8th of august 2008. but it didn't change anyone's often because it was only, you know, a couple of months later when the new cycle moved on to something else. and i think that's another sort of a page out of the western playbook. the west western narrative is not or western approach. the information isn't so much about debunking. it's just uh, highlighting something. pressing it's point of view and then moving on, you know, nobody cares about. uh, you know, south of settings or georgians who died there. nobody cares about, by the way, i was still on the ground and i remember seeing some us dark skinned people who

looked like the american advisers, the courses of them laying out on the ground. because uh, you know, the russian troops push the georgians out. and i'm sure nobody cares about them either. you know, western media no longer about the accountability and you know, you highlight a certain issue, create this emotional turmoil for your own promising political purposes. and then you move on and nobody cares about how much resources wanted to know who was right or who was wrong. it's irrelevant. so in lots of old settings and what are your thoughts on these accusations? when the, the current george and 5 minutes are they fat. i think that i it takes place and a very interesting jo, political context that is relevant both for georgia and for your pre georgia is facing major problem enter elections. and this ruling party that they have is in favor of continuing developing ties for the ego, but they also want to trade with russia. they want to have

a balance of policy with that own interest in mind. and they specifically said that we don't want to be used like your brain was used in the class between the 2 major powers we want to trade with russia in russia is their 2nd largest trading partner . while the united states is only, i think, the 4th on the 5th, but they also continue with that in your integration. um that is uh, not acceptable to the west. it was doesn't want them to be, you know, sort of self focused, a self minded finding the own interest. they want them to follow that very precise line. and that's why the pressure on george and leadership is extreme right now. the older european leaders, if you're chug the latest news that use them of backsliding on democracy, on becoming increasingly to tally, carrying on file, you know, the being the worst possible political nightmare for georgia. simply because the judge and leadership looked around and said, okay,

we're in this neighborhood. we need to provide for our people. we need, you know, functional traits. we need with relations with all neighbors. and we don't want to be a direct battering ram or a battlefield for the united states to, you know, sort of out. it's a issues with the russian. well, i mean, one of the lead isn't the routing policy of georgia has said that they also ortiz, they, they don't want the big countries to use the, like the, was that, i mean, any national space, 1st and foremost, should pursue the interest of that own people sure, there are always dealings in geo politics, but the 1st rule, the 1st obligation, all fine, any political party is to its own people rather than you know, of people in washington to pursue a very, a very strange agenda that had, in my opinion, has nothing to do with the interest of the american people and in fact, a couple of leaders in georgia sat that is not the political leaders in washington course, spreading all those missed information and lies about georgia,

increasingly becoming a 3rd chair and the only guard to the american corporate only guards immediately guard to death, das things that you know are informed by that own concerns rather than that countries politics to me because georgia is i today's own interest. since the problem is making accusation being here in dallas. it like if you have pro russian really just let the 11 be clear and then old pro russian, they're acting in their own interest. but this for an agent is lower as well in that yes, you know, the us imposing sanctions against dozens of georgia and people. so is it because georgia is taking this independence stones? that's yet, we've seen the west, west relations coal with georgia so sharply i will quote with independence because i don't think there are many countries in the world that cannot afford the authentic independence of these days. but it's taking a pragmatic stance and it says to the west, look, we want to develop ties with you. but we also want to develop ties with russia,

china, and other neighbors of hours per kit, even ukraine, because it serves our interest. we want to pursue self interest, the foreign policy or domestic policy for that matter. this is not acceptable to the west because the west for washington saw that they had, you know, georgia like they had the print in the pocket and it needs to talk a very specific line. and once you make a small step away from that line, you're not just the bad guy, you need to be sanctions. you need to be pressured into um, changing your forcing me to plan. and hopefully, i mean, this is a hope of mine. i hope that this is an example off russia's neighbors and other countries drawing certain lessons wrong. the very sad story of your praise, and perhaps sooner or later, your credit can come to that point as well. that you know, it's leadership needs to mind the interest of.