happens there would have never been a president, lyndon johnson, and then no anti vietnam war movement. that means that there probably wouldn't have been a president richard nixon. and without mixing, it would have been no watergate scandal without water d. jimmy carter would have never been president, and without carter, there would have never been the so called reagan revolution of 1980. those are the only ways in which history would have been different. and john kennedy's wasn't the only murder that had an impact on history. i'm john kerry onto welcome to the whistle blowers the . 2 2 2 2 2 2 we're going to tell you today about one of the most fascinating and so. busy murders in modern american history, and it's one that most americans know nothing about. i want to try to lay out the characters in the story. one is john f kennedy himself,

you know all about him. another is cord meyer. he was a school friend of kennedy's, and many of their mutual friends said that they were best friends, indeed, best friends until the end of kennedy's life. kornmeier also became one of the c. i is senior most officers. another character in the story is mary pincher, my records wife. she too was a great school friend of kennedy's, mary cord and j. f. k. all went to school together and didn't start. kennedy and mary did it each other before marian cord became a couple and got married. that didn't stop jeff k. and mary from having an affair, though that's something we'll talk about a little bit later. kornmeier joined the c. i a, in 1951 at the invitation of c. i a director aland bellis kennedy, was already in washington having been elected to the house of representatives and contemplating a senate run. 3 years later, the, the court had a string of senior positions at the c, i always with kennedy support and the 3 along with jackie kennedy and newsweek

magazine editor, ben bradley, and his wife antoinette, who was married sister, were it every society party and every social event in washington together, the myers divorced in 1958, 2 years after their young son, michael was hit by a car and killed near their home. he was 9 years old. fast forward then to 1963. kennedy is murdered in dallas in november. the myers are devastated, and washington and the country are never the same. but life eventually goes on. mary, who had always been artistic, became one of the leading artists in the washington colors school. that was an important american art movement of the mid 20th century. her paintings are now worth hundreds of thousands of dollars and are in museum collections around the world. on october 12th 1964, 11 months after kennedy was killed, mary decided to go for a walk along the cno canal. tow path in the georgetown section of washington dc.

that was something that she did almost every single day. she was supposed to then meet her sister for lunch. and then she intended to paint for the rest of the afternoon in her studio, which was behind her sister's property in georgetown. but mary never made it. she was brutally murdered while walking along the tow path. police almost immediately arrested a black man near the scene of the crime and arrest which racism played a major role. that man was tried for the crime and then an all white jury found him not guilty. no other arrests have ever been made. and the case is officially listed as open and unsolved. our guest today who was the best friend of the myers son, who was killed in that car accident, took up the case as an adult. he published an absolutely riveting book about it called mary's mosaic. the c i a conspiracy to murder, john f. kennedy,

mary pinto meyer and their vision for world peace. he used primary source, c i a and us army documents to get to the bottom of it. and spoiler alert, he solves the crime. any points the finger directly at the c i a we are very happy today to welcome peter jenny to the show. peter is a p h, the psychologist. he's a renowned author and a university lecturer. peter, thank you so much for being with us. this is a real treat. my pleasure, john. i am just really thrilled that the excitement around is. busy ready, and as far as job to maybe you and also a health junior the job today. your audience a meant to that peter. let's start with the players in this complicated story. i hope that i did them justice in the introduction. but tell us about chord and mary meyer,

their relationship to john and jackie kennedy and to ben and antoinette bradley. these people were all at the very top of washington society and the 19 fifties and the 1960s. and these were the circles in which your own parents were traveling. yes . uh, all of the people basically just mentioned, not not only socialized together, but their kids. uh, you know, became friends and were they went to the same schools? uh, washington, the private school continually one called georgia foundation, which is quite well known right now. and uh, you know, they, they, they had a very old time in washington. and of course, that included quite a lot of drinking. uh and it took it show. well, tell us a little of your own personal history. you lived near the myers when you were

a child. their middle son, michael, was your best friend. and then he was killed when he was hit by a car was trying to cross the street. you remains close to the myers into your young adulthood. and then when you were 17 years old, you came home from school during a break. and your parents told you that mary had been murdered. that affected you deeply. tell us about that event and about how it spurred you to write this outstanding book. yes, it did. did you know the event itself shocked me? you know, i remember sitting at our dinner table the night before thanksgiving in the fall of 1964. and my mother just sort of casually made an announcement as to the event of this murder. and you don't hear.

i was wrong from boring soul. i was in the 11th grade, i was planning to go out and how to get a all night. and i ended up retreating to my bedroom and going to bed. literally right after dinner and crying most of the night off and on. i knew there was something very for found that i had taken place and i was also for many years haunted by the scene at our dinner table because my mother did all the talking and my father just vacantly stared off into space, which i thought was kind of unusual given you know, how. busy critical this event watch, show it shade with me for many years and it was only through

the course of intensive psychotherapy. and since we were in the late dot into. busy 19 sixty's, the original views of cycle del x and a very responsible way that i just started making the connections that i needed to make that allows me to advance this. busy ready to where they ultimate and result was the book and i took many years. what tell us about the relationship between mary meyer and john kennedy, the national choir tabloid broke the story in 1976. well after both of them were dead. but now it's generally accepted, as fact. did you find proof of that relationship in your own research? oh, on the website. i think the thing you know to begin

is that the 1st time j s. k laid eyes on mary. was she at a pressure winter session and he said, jazz k has gone from the trunk, small or very tosh of lead bradshaw. we're in wallingford, connecticut, and you're already graduated. but he came back the following year just to go to this big shot weekend there. busy there was formal damage that kind of thing, and this is where the 1st way eyes on there and, and it was a and a child, or she could not forget mary's date was a man by the name of william atwood, who actually became a member of kennedy's administration, what was you want of kennedy's and bachelors, but there are a number of references to the 3 of them sitting around that uh

no subject quietly coming together and ran initially about when they were together uh at the stance. and so bill atwood kept running upstairs, to garner to list or me, you had a very bad cold. and during that time is with j. f. k. started to make his boots on mary, in terms of cutting in a tower. and on that 100 and things like that. but, you know, mary kind of took it with a grain of salt. she recognized j. s. k. at that time for me was, you know, a very wealthy play moore's who was just awesome. married. and you know, they didn't really address mirror, he didn't i address scenario really, but definitely he was very just taken with her. i never forgot it timed out fast forward in june, the late fifties,

early sixties. and they ended up being neighbors, j, f, k. and his wife jackie were 1st to occupy vickery hill, subsequently, where bobby and apple and their family may have dr. j. f k. and just wanted to georgetown. so there was a lot of, you know, interaction at a certain time. um, i think the thing to remember here is that the trauma of the miners and particularly mary losing their middle son to a car accident where mike always get kind of as josh is coming home for dinner. and that was about 1956 in december. and so barry was devastated and i think that was really one of the primary

things that chat a divorce. so it's more stimulated the worst to take place because mary was also increasingly very turned off. of course. busy at the central intelligence agency, but she, i and she just didn't blanket she hated the island dollars. and she was just a po uh about hearing a number of things that they were involved in. peter, i want you to hold that thoughts. we are going to take a short break and when we come back we're going to talk to peter jenny about his investigation into mary myers murder and the exciting combination of all of those efforts say to. 2 2

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a university lecturer. here, thanks again for being with us. by your peter. let's get into the details of mary myers murder. mary went for a walk along the cno canal in georgetown like she did almost every day. she was going to have lunch with her sister and then paints, but she never made it to the lunch. take it from there. well, berries walks as you know, told her were a regular part of her g. g, typically winter studio around 8 in the morning. she would work for 3 or 4 hours. and there you go. take a walk down in georgetown from wherever the studio was, which was about 6 blocks and then go under t bridge and walk out the tow path to a place. busy fletcher's boat house, so if you go out to fletchers and that was about 2 miles, maybe 2 or

a half mile long. and it was a, as i said, a very establish routine. mary. jo, she as a woman and her early forties, she was very physically chad. she played a lot of tennis. she took exercise very seriously. so this was, you know, routine that she really enjoyed and we get to keep it up even on the coldest, asian winter. and there's a little story in my book about one day she walked into jackson kennedy. this, which was the fascination and uh, the 2 of them just embraced and cried together. and uh it's, it's a very, it's a very poignant moment, i think. and the story in terms of, even though barry and and j s k, were having an affair,

which i really think jackie knew about as well as any number of sexual encounters. jack pag, during his career or, you know, the 2 of them had a bond that was above and beyond conflict just in terms of their respect and connection. and, you know, deep abiding straits and j. f. k was at the time and the tragedy that had taken place in dallas. one of the absolute craziest parts of this story is that of mary's diary. she kept a diary, and she told her sister and brother in law about it and asked them to destroy it in the event that something happened to her. then immediately after her death, the bradleys were in their home and they heard somebody in mary studio behind the

house, and ben bradley went to investigate. so, tell our viewers what happened next. well, actually, there used to be a correction here. the way the bradley's knew about the diary was she to mary's best friend and slowly man on that, andrew, it was in japan the day of the murder. and on the evening of the murder, she actually called the bradleys and she was looking for jim angleton always made people know or is the chief of counterintelligence at the guy. and she wanted to inform everyone that there was this diary they needed to find it because she, there were a lot of uh, very fascinating details that were in the diary and the band did not want to see this information get into the wrong hands. so what happened is that point is

bradley and angleton went to mary's diary, and bradley had the keys to be in french. so they went down to larry's gallery and found the diary as force. bradley gave it to angleton to quote, unquote, take care of it. and so. busy busy it was an open blatchley news about the diary already because he was having married each phone. i knew how barry was and what she was capable of and we're talking about him. all right. that is just, you know, in september of 1916 floor, the warren commission had been written and released. mary had her own copy, which she read and just curious to know and that it was at that point she was planning to go public and basically tell the world of her relationship

with j. f. k. and what had happened and she was going to blow the whistle on the c, i a particular raver, ex husband. and of course, jim angleton showed that the chain billy, the motivating factor as to why the c i a so they just tried to get rid of her. she was going to just destroy all the publicity that was going into the warren commission report and trying to put the public act rash the. busy english lee harvey oswald when in fact she was already convinced that it was that you used the primary source documents from the c i a and from the us army that allows you to focus on one person, a man that you believe to be married, myers killed her now this is the thing to me, this is what sold me on the book. who was that man and what led you to him?

the name of the man was lieutenant william l mitchell and mitchell. busy on the under cover a contract agent for the she i a uh she started to develop a habit. richard was instructed to do uh, being out of the. busy time around that time, mary took her walk and so on the day of the murder, she was actually the last person to see her. now, originally i thought mitchell was the assassin. but given the nature of visuals personnel record which my research has helped me get in the least along with the attorney, we got his personal. busy file and examined it, and mitchell did not have

a profile of the c. i a a shots or has he been a c, i ss and there would've been certain entries in his personnel file of having training here adding training there. they weren't there. but mitchell is a very credible, critical person in this story because maureen, going deeper into this web, it occurred to me that there was a she, i, a session. and these people. busy as you probably might imagine, the wife goes on you, they come in, they do the work, and then they just completely disappear and vanish. and there is not a trace of them. i don't think mitchell, i was the assassin. and one of the reasons that leads me to this is i, i filed the lawsuit against

a job. i had to get to him in some way. and in order to get rid of the last 2 vigils, attorney agreed to a deposition that i would have a 3 hour. busy deposition with mitchell in california, whereby i could ask him questions that he has never been asked before and of course it would be recorded, manor gated, has written out that kind of thing. so we went to this deposition that mitchell was unaware of my level of preparation as most people are. so i basically caught mitchell with this pass down a number of details and it was very clear through the deposition that he was like all at one point only took a break by attorney. busy very anxious selection date, let me know what's going on here. he should walk. peter. this is

a guy will come back with a loaded gun and shoot as all right, that's what i'm worried about. a force that does not happen. but. busy i think that deposition really took the case several start steps further, deeper to really show that there was an immense amount of organization around this operation and had to look a certain way or else the suspicion was just going to totally d rail. what do you tell it? sions, on wanting to achieve in the shop or asian, and a, go ahead peter, i, i apologize that we're out of time and i want to thank you for being with us on the show. and i, i want to encourage everybody to take a look at this absolutely magnificent book. mary's mosaic. thanks for being with us

. a lot of pleasure, john arthur, robert, per se, said it, his famed book then, and the art of motorcycle maintenance. the truth knocks on the door and you say, go away. i'm looking for the truth and it goes away. puzzling. but that's what so many americans have done as others have searched for the truth and some of the most dramatic and historically important events of the 20th century. that's why we are so fortunate to have people like dr. peter jenny, out, they're researching, writing, and not being afraid of the truth. i'd like to thank peter jenny for being with us today. please. again, check out his book. mary's mosaic, the c. i. a conspiracy to murder john of kennedy, mary pinto myers and their vision for world peace. i'd also like to thank our viewers for joining us for another episode of the list of lowers and john kerry. aku, please follow me on some stats at john kerry. i will see you next on the

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