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[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to the prospect bullhorn is where all things are considered on people about soon ukraine's former president zelinski will reveal his so called victory plan to joe biden. what possibly could be new? also can he is real, succeed in defeating its enemies with i tech who discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess george sent me while we and booted bessie's a broadcast where the capital, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have dmitri, by which he is deputy for an editor of comfortable sky a prob, the daily or a general and cross that rolls and effective, and can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. okay,

take it off. let's go to georgia in budapest. um yeah, it's been talked about quite a bit over the last few weeks. this victory plan is the former president of ukraine, zelinski is calling it well, there's been some grips than drabs about what it could possibly mean before we go into some of the possible points of it here. why now, george? well, the binding, the administration is heading out the door. so if one thinks about what, what's, you know, in sales, in the victory plan that we've basically got been to get, we'll go tens of it through a variety of news reports. it's a wish list. well, the things as the landscape would like from the united states and from the west in general. now, he may be figuring, and i think it's not an unreasonable estimate. this is the, by the ministration is out going out of the door,

then it's willing to impose all sorts of problems on the success of a bite and is obviously very unhappy about departing from the scene. he didn't want to though, do you want that to be president? lex. yeah. but since he's not good to be present, then he may well decide, hey, gives the landscape whatever he wants. and that's going to be a headache for whoever the succeeds with. so designs he may be calculating that this is probably the right time to just present a laundry list of uh, wishes. and the americans will say, hey, what, you know, what the hell it's, it's going to be, we're not going to be here for much longer. it's going to be a headache for whoever comes next or an alternative period said this victory plan is supposed to fail. and, of course, other events on the grounds, your team a, let's go through. some of the things that been embed has been met have been bandied about. okay, that's been reported by various sources. a part of the plan is to allow unrestricted

long range missile strikes into russia. next point to invite ukraine in the borders of 1999 and 9. you want to join nato at a nearby date. whatever that means to immediately negotiate and accept the ukraine's membership in the european union. ok, more fantasy to permanently supply heavy. it'd be the advanced heavy weapons to ukraine. that's been on the agenda now for the last few weeks. and you provide that 100 to billions of toddlers for reconstruction without any restrictions attached to it. i tend to think the last point is the one that we're hoping for more than anything else be megan, this is all kinds of fantasy stuff. and as we evolve, re you've talked about in the past, we member, we have the the zalinski piece plan. so the big creek line is to implement the piece point. that's what it looks like to be. this is the chain of events, fema, oh, well, according to those you go a french daily newspaper. uh, basically ukraine is losing all the girl because uh, clunk,

greater expectations. so what was that mt sleep rush, i didn't thought your boy, the forces that are making progress in don't boss to there actually region of course, you know, uh at the attic by the ukrainian forces. so that in good person, these becoming the more of a problem for the ukranian, not yet. uh, since russia is not stopping the it said once and don't boss and don't boss is the main best altogether. so in terms of uh, timing. uh, i think uh, based drake, i agree with the most the girl, it makes sense to kind of, uh, uh, southern the, uh, maybe not the permanent beast, but that is the ceasefire right now. was there the scheme of the to save himself uh, from my toe to defeat. uh, but uh, you know, there are certain fact. so there are certain since, which show that, uh what you said about the old plane dish proposals. we may see you this weeks because uh, according to the latest reports that the sofa,

the sun is going to be and i will be in november probably right off to these action . and uh, basically next week, good history is usually towards the app over at presidents uh can you are in office or on the term that the, the so that president gets very aggressive about roughly as we get this remember, okay. uh, bill clinton, the it was friends or assumed the beginning. it was the oldest slot for you that uh, george bush. the junior gauge was drama and i looked into his eyes in the beginning . it was the invitation or your grand a georgia tomato into 1000 with our bomb. i was even more just the we had we sat in the beginning. uh and the base simply the warranty. okay. which stopped at the 2014, under obama. uh, are you there? yes. yes. so uh with by then he started with the geneva assignment and i'm, uh,

i'm just terrified to see what would be them a few. so if you step, so what's the name of them, what you're saying here, and i'll throw it back to george here is that there's no real change of thinking in washington in london. and um, they are going to continue this. i think you do all solve a recent interview with victoria new and when the questionnaire. and the question was about the assemble process a few weeks into the complex. and we don't have to go over what she said. you just have to look how she said that she was. so it's moke. i mean, i'm, yeah, you know, it's broken and we all have to fix it. they, there's no choice. you have to work on this path and we have to continue with. that's what makes is very, very depressing. what's a wednesday out? and his plan is in a material to me, george. so i agree with the piece of it because i think of it. so it's, it's very important to differentiate what zalinski and key of ones.

and what the united states and nato one, the united states, and they to really couldn't care less about the print up so they couldn't get it. okay. how many lives have been lost? they don't do. they don't even have that interested in what's going on on the battlefield, just as long as your brain can continue the fight. but the objective goal along has been to weaken the grade to really age russia, knock it back in a decade, centuries in terms of the physical and economic development, who obviously hoping to kill off as many of russians as possible. and as long as the landscape is willing to go along with that and indeed is ego moreland, you get their goal. okay, give me this web and give me that web and give me the removal the restrictions on using weapons. let's, uh uh, you know, for provoking even worse. well then they're, they're happy with it. and that's what we say. it is the price, i guess is the person because for them that's

a state this rule is achieving what we wanted. and i think the goal, of course, is to separate russia permanently from europe, give us some of that that hold the deal between russian and europe, which has been an american nightmare since the end of the fall of the soviet union . that, that's all of the table. so for the americans, as they will. yeah. let's, let's keep it going. why you know, why not? and that's why i think that is it does the landscape once very badly. the best part of this uh to fix a plan to remove all restrictions on the use of um, uh, this alone res, weapons a, but let's say attack comes all the know all the, the scouts, the french scouts, it's a, i think you'll get it. this may not be a public announcement, but i think they will do it because i say this is good. um, it's more headaches for russia let this move more lives, lots of more pain and humiliation. and everything is up to them to decide what they're going to do. so i think that, you know,

that within the next few months we will see a terrible escalation. yeah, i mean, you get a demo also. it's very interesting in this so called victory plan, and it will eventually be revealed. um, what it does is it puts this complex squarely into nato world because the only way this conflict can move forward is if nato is actively involved in a green to it. and this is what the rush of this have been saying from day one. this is a nato conflict. and if it's going to move forward, if you crate is even going to continue exist in his current form, it's gonna have to be a nato decision. one way or another, so it's getting in a weird way where i mean this country loses, but he wins, at least the narrative. everybody likes to use and for the time a demo. oh, i think that's basically the green rush. it's not that cold it but you know, brandon bra seats quotes linked. let's be fair about between the global souls. that sense tends to be kind brush or is larger, you know, and the global west. and the,

it's interesting, you know, a just, i think a few hours ago, a few days ago, uh, india back. and then i just states industry, they came out with that statement on the durable piece and you create the, you know, if you keep in his territory like round your book and that statement does not contain the russia. you the same way. i mean they, they pretend not on the stand that brush it as huge interest in to crate that ukraine is very important for the secure, at your rep. that's it's, it's like the stand show for the present. but the notes and the basically i agree with gorge, i'm coming back to what i said about the beginning to vary a presidential term in america, being pro ration and that and being very cool just but you the beginning, the president this fresh from booking to load as well to see the states one piece with the russians with other countries,

but towards them there is more and more it's less of the leads and, and what you're describing, you know, striking, brushing 3rd, the deep yes. i can deepen side, rushing their feet by your being made weapons by the way your boss lady gave it to you still night the state. so there is wishy washy about it the your pm. the read us the, it's one of those really weird situations where they and the american ministration tells the british you can use your missiles exactly if they get against russ. it's very and it's, it shows how the him fires the live at the board when he go back to george before we go to the break your, you know, judge and provide zima brought up these other countries that are um, considering um, um, uh, the protection of ukrainian sovereignty, but it's something that you and i have brought up and email over the you years now is a the, the big 3 plan, the piece plan. all the other plan. they never talk about, or very rarely talk about security. george?

no, absolutely. right. because the navy of the west, the view, you can hear it in speech is a particularly or felt in books is when he talks about our city or the nato security at the, you know, the, that was, that's the only thing a mass is. this is our security and they never acknowledge that all the country isn't, particularly as we have seen russia, security is in any way. it's even massive. apparently, russia is role is simply to accept the natives. insurances, american insurance has a face value with that just so we just provide me a peaceful reduced lease up ends, the lines, windows, elevators, events of alliance. and although we, we don't, we don't intend well at the browser rusher, should accept those. but of course, when you say, well how come you don't accept russia's assurances that you told me that i was like, you know what else to do, but you don't accept anything that are actually to say about, well, we have no aggressive and then we have no interest left, so it's,

it's the complete blind list. so they have the appreciation of all the countries that go with. and that is what does lead nato and russia to this is all of us point to one. so that's recognize this complet could come to and in general, and i'm going to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some really stay with are the exception. and i'm here to plan with you whatever you do. do not watch my new show seriously by watch something that's so different. i listed of opinions that he won't get anywhere else. what kind of plans are due to have the state department, the c, i a weapons makers, multi $1000000000.00 corporations. choose your fax for you. go ahead, change and whatever you do. don't my show stay main street because i'm probably going to make you uncomfortable. my show is called direction, but again, it's not,

we don't want to watch it because it might just change the way and say on the way obviously using. but if i saw last time, what was easier to share the same? yes. the no that was the before the to do with is about the joy moment. little confused on so we can use the cool logistics that helps too much. there's somebody for the trouble here as well. yep. new customer support on the bill for the from chicago for us. so it's, it's just me, there's only what you're used to suggesting with versioning is good news story.

nothing was in your film festival. the feeling of getting that by myself i'm in the welcome back across that bull barnes and peter lavelle to remind you were discussing some real is a need to be met before away to the break. you wanted to make one more point about what this so called big tree plan. go ahead. yeah, it looks like the, uh, is going to be a nightmare because uh uh, they decided to double don't. i mean, read what go to boca says, i think it was in the washington. what's enforced, i guess. right? strike deep into russia was west of the back. what's even bad west the expos, enter the ukraine and honest, i mean good to go with a special representative for obama,

for several years. she is drop. what's to prevent these not delivered the trip to fail miserably. allow what does suggest to make the walmart payable? you know, to strike deep and the russian sand u. s. military to through ukraine. uh, you know what they say it seems to me, oh, so there's a very dangerous point they make on to which one is in power. there will be no peace. so if you mine's meal will, willing is roberto smooth rhetoric. you probably remember she said type of thing is usually invite matt without them. so we will and this nightmare with for or this better. ok with them because for a while, the rest of our lives and then basically it up to the resolution and tools agency and consequences. these people, you know, they, they live in because when they say they're kind of, you know, most of no piece with will jump in goals, it gains back as they gazed towards it on the pool gym. there was an empowerment

here in the rushing last 3 weeks and you the ability to 1000 rush to get everything to reserve relationship with your p and you and you will do a night the states. so a conservative estimate shows that peace is possible, but these people are bullshit. and everybody who, for the fee we, we gonna only have peace. you wait is that make a resume? change in russia and that was against the promise will link them not let me quote you, we, i'm not, uh can you can for is you can change, you know, your waste included most cool. that turns out to be a lot, which he said in the beginning, old wisest. that the problem is, is all these plans, whether it comes from the former president of ukraine or the legal president, to be grand, ever. you want to define it? they don't talk about peace far at present the pre existence my residency don't say president best or j favors, but switched gears have gotten at george we all of us have been just

a guest by this technological tech, no terrorism, that israel is employed and love it i continued as we speak right now, and of course, defenders of israel or will quite gleefully on social media. we're happy to, to see it where i'm, i'm usually referring to the pages and other electronic devices that were somehow when one form or another captured and used as a weapon. i mean, it was really quite an amazing that was very few of pointed out that this whole process is creating involuntary suicide bombers, which of course has terrorism here. i suppose what i find, not only do i find this very disturbing because in a country like, let me know on beepers are used by medical personnel a lot. okay. i mean there's a bit, there's a dual use as a say here, but george doesn't this such a precedent that well is israel can do such a pair rising thing and be applauded by the west. what's to stop the other

countries in groups doing the same thing? i think that's the, that's the salient. going to a piece of because, um, what israel did, let's go to that. obviously, it didn't, didn't reflect the humiliation on the his ball up because that obviously, you know, has ball a network with supply chain and everything had been complete to penetrate to by israel and, and a, but what so the really important is that is ratios enables israel's champions in the west of celebrating that says, oh, these are the target to the tech support. so they, once i get to the backs, because even if, you know, you're going to be the be both of this in the pocket of, uh, somebody from his ball. uh, you know, he may be in the marketplace, he may be the school, we may be on a plane and maybe on a bus, a lot of other people are going to be hurt then obviously the thousands of people were foot um, as a result of this uh, these exploding pages. um, so if they want to, i get the tag,

but i think it's very important that once this is done and then other countries could including israel, including the united states, i can say, well, why don't we do this a more often. you know, why don't we just the take out to whoever we don't like, you know, take a big or, or man, and then say, well, what are you going to do about it? and, and so then then, and then go be, where do you know russia lead as russian generals as a well ok, we took them out and you know, that was, it was a target at the time. what are you going to do? but well, you know, what, if it's, so they've decided, you know, we don't like some of the holocaust and i are in london. why don't we just, they came out of it. so is, so this house extending those lives throughout the world. you just simply, you can get to conduct these targeted assassinations. it doesn't matter. you know, you can completely in different to who else is going to be hard as a result. but you created this, this price of them whereby you can just carry out assassinations and be completely oblivious of the consequences. yeah. and then even the whole issue,

proportionality is, it is now turned it on its head. mean it, when you go making an idiot almost every single conflict, the day, the westcott comments on around the world, they look at the rules of law. they shouldn't even convention is all that the numbers apply, but it comes to israel, your, i mean, the whole issue of proportionality and me to get one, a combatant. you have to be very, very careful not to take out, no combat and smell that is complete. i might as well um, um uh uh reading and, and covering um these uh, horrific events that he gave the whole issue of proportionality as never was mentioned in western media. all they do is they, they, they seem to be a co home and thing. the x rays base rails on their ingenuity, well killing innocent people's intentionally is you should not be considered in genius daemon. uh well, i think something really terrible is just happened. uh the suite. uh it is

comparable to a modem. so all the chemical weapons that the nuclear weapons is, weapon, ice, ational calls for devices. it's something that built into science fiction on jewelry simply allow, it suddenly became via the t us and, and even leave only for his boy up there. it gives what i see, that would not make it less look right. i mean, when chemical weapons were used by the germans, you know, during the 1st of all, the more against the, the, the, the, the british and the french in libra. from here the then will the pete, you know, for that while the technical guests it was a terrible crime. even though all the media treat people are killed. because everyone southern down, stuart how vulnerable you may need to, you know, and, and, and of course the, it's a, it's a way to, for some, i'm sorry, crazy, but additions, well known state asked us to see, quote, demi nation, because what did they do? even if they what, exit, all the gays, community personnel. okay. communication, getting in touch with your soul just as an essential spot. well, what if i,

if you can get in touch with your soul just now? you know, i mean you, you cannot continue us resisting. so it's a way to world domination sound like we can use weaponized. ational calls for devices can be dictate the what. and what is the actually the west instead of talking about the central to you instead of saying, hey, something terrible. cuz jessica, when you hear a, sheila says jessica, instead they say part of the time it would not be worse, but i think it was just coming to cairo, whether it's care unclosing, the washington post david ignatius the time in football, be award. blinking should be the same. i mean, it's just photographs. uh, they impose all kinds of sanctions on the petitions in russia, either on sometimes they never killed anyone. you know, they, they're what human cold. 14 in a lot. but these people are on the sanctions during the day. do you think, what did we mean included included,

i didn't pick champions and no one of the sections and these are after this terrible i would say die bullet cold. what they did was die of when it comes to be good because the of the demonstration effect here are we also george because is of the way west, the media portray base the call like that in, in the bonds is they do you know, okay, for the for what many western countries has blogs, the big terrorist organization for most of the world does it and see because the law is that it's a political party, it has seats in parliament. it is the for many, many people. it is the backbone of civil society. and 11 on because it bits of read just governance problems. but you know, it was as well as comp carved out a, a place where itself, i mean, they did liber rate um, southern 11 on from occupation by the problem. that one of these really occupational needs a lot of people's look to as well off, you know, again, they're not all combatants. their nurses, their doctors, their taxi drivers,

george. so they have, oh, this is the that's like a set of. yeah. is it you hear this is bella, is a, a, a is a movement. um, but what is right, it was demonstrate that instead of what you're say, i'm not at the, or show israel did this by itself. this list all the way to a great deal of technological sophistication. and i have to say that they had a help to say the lease from the c i a. so for the americans, the variables are really masters of science. i mean george state g to back that up . i mean, right after it happened on the 1st day with the pagers, from what i could tell the white house said we, they had nothing to do with a new knowledge of a bite. but by the 3rd day they, they, it's been reported that they were aware of such an attack, but maybe not all the data. i mean, they change their story all the time just to back into the base they, they change the story of all the time. and, and it was also interesting that when the, the other, the other day, when

a israel carried out this assassination of abraham keel, this has ball a lead to the americans with gleeful. and although it just rejoicing because he allegedly took part in this, of the bombing of the american marine barracks and the american embassy in the bay roads in 1983. so that's for 40 years ago. again, this is a little late, so they don't have no idea that he worked about this. but either way is or 40 years ago, either discovery app to assess the nations when what happens over 40 years ago. but, but the point is that this kind of the activity is, is done, you know, the, to the moralize, to humiliate and, and to put, you know, essentially the fear been to as well. and i think that israel has succeeded, or they sent the deal succeed by me. i came in sort of selling them well. say you

are up against somebody vastly more technologically sophisticated when you are deciding to deal with is addresses or as long term problems. but it is an, an act you know, against, as well as saying, well, now, now what are you going to do? you're up against us. us being israel found the united states well eventually, since a precedent has been sadly bade. but she will be on the other foot. i wonder how london nurse or new york as will feel when 3000 of their citizens are headed by this kind of tech, no terrorism. the attitude will be very, very different. i can tell you again, but hypocrisy is extraordinary. that's all the time we have dental. and i think my guess in budapest and here in mosque. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here already. so you next time. remember across the apples, the

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