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round about factory operations and job as being on the cutting block. $30000.00 jobs is the figure we keep hearing about. we do not confirm this figure. one thing is clear. volkswagen has to reduce its costs, edits, german locations. this is the only way the brand can earn enough money for future investments. so is shots just a cheerfully clueless one man, reckoning ball or is there something else going on here? well, let's see. for the establishment cove, it still exists, at least as an excuse for their own economic screw ups. the aftermath of the coven, 19 pandemic, a stuttering economic engine, geo political tensions, tighter financing, conditions and industry specific challenges are the main reasons for the increasing and solving sees among large companies in the 1st half of 2024 look cohen was just the beginning of this whole idea of mocking around non stop at the economy though. then what happens is short term capital and just totally rambler that he shrugged
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world trade is low in china is actually slowing very much, but it's become much less open to us. and actually it's competing with us in global markets on all accounts. we've lost our may supply of cheaper energy or asher. and now we have to stuff for our defense to gain for the 1st time, sees the world since the 2nd world war. maybe it's schultz and the rest of the you can father holding up a mirror for themselves. they could find the culprit responsible for their own self sabotage until then it looks like they'll just have to sell it for seeing themselves through the electoral choice of motors. and even with that show seems like he still refuses to see himself in his party as anything other than the political equivalent of brad pitt. yeah. rachel moss and never finding a tongue good. what from how to wrap up this house program here, and i'll take a shot to do miss keys here at the desk of the top of the hour. i do hope you can
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join had the hello and welcome to the prospect boulevards. were all things are considered on people about soon ukraine's former president zelinski will reveal his so called victory plan to joe biden. what possibly could be new? also can he is real, succeed in defeating its enemies with high tech? who discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess door to send me while we and booted betsy's, a broadcast where the god both, which could be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have dmitri bobbins. he is deputy for an editor of comfortable sky, a probably a daily or
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a gentling cross that proves that effective and can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. okay, take it off. let's go to georgia in budapest. um, yeah, it's been talked about quite a bit over the last few weeks. this victory plan is the former president of ukraine, zelinski is calling it and there's been some grips and drabs about what it could possibly mean before we go into some of the possible points of it here. why now, george? well, the bite and the administration is heading out the door. so if one thinks about what, what's it, you know, in sales in the vic tripland that we've basically got been to get, we'll go tens of it through a variety of news reports. it's a wish list. well, the things as the landscape would like from the united states and from the west in general. now he may be figuring, and i think it's not an unreasonable estimate. this is the by the ministration is out going out of the door. then it's willing to impose all sorts of problems on
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the success of a bite and is obviously very unhappy about departing from the scene. he didn't want to though, do you want that to be president? next? yeah. but since he's not good to be present, then he may well decide, hey, gives the landscape whatever he wants. and that's going to be a headache for whoever the succeeds me. so designs he may be calculating that this is probably the right time to just present a laundry list of uh, wishes. and the americans will say, hey, what, you know, what the hell it's, it's going to be, we're not going to be here for much longer. it's going to be a headache for whoever comes next or an alternative period said this victory plan is supposed to fail and of course, other events, solid grounds, your team and let's go through. some of the things that been embed has been met have been bandied about. okay, that's been reported by various sources. a part of the plan is to allow unrestricted long range missile strikes into russia. next point to invite ukraine
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in the borders of 1999 and 9. you want to join nato at a nearby date. whatever that means to me immediately negotiate and accept the grades membership in the european union. okay. more fantasy to permanently supply heavy. it'd be the advanced heavy weapons ukraine. that's been on the agenda now for the last few weeks. and you provide that 100 its billions of toddlers for reconstruction, without any restrictions attached to it. i tend to think the last point is the one that we're hoping for more than anything else be megan, this is all kinds of fantasy stuff. and as we evolve, re you've talked about in the past, remember we have the the zalinski piece plan. so the big creek line is to implement the piece point. that's what it looks like to be. this is the chain of events, fema. oh, well, i put in too low, so you got a oh, a french daily newspaper. uh, basically your credit is losing all the girl because uh,
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concrete are the expectations. so it was empty. it says click rush. i didn't thought you boy, the forces that are making progress in don't boss to there actually region of course, you know, uh at the attic by the ukrainian forces. so that in person, these becoming the more of a problem for the ukranian, not yet. uh, since russia has not spoken, it said once and don't boss and don't boss is the main best altogether. so in terms of uh, timing. uh, i think a basic like i agree with the most the girl. it makes sense to kind of, uh, uh, southern the, uh, maybe not the feminine bees, but that is the ceasefire right now. was it the scheme of the, to save himself or from my toe to defeat? uh, but uh, you know, there are certain fact. so there are certain since, which show that uh what you said about the old plane, your proposals, we may see you this weeks. because uh,
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according to the latest reports that the sofa, the sun is going to be and i will be in november probably right off to the, the action. and uh, basically next week, good history is usually towards the app over at presidents uh can you are in office or on the term that the, the so that president gets very aggressive about roughly as we get this remember, okay. uh, bill clinton, the it was friends morris in the beginning. it was the oldest slot for you that uh, george bush. the junior gauge was drama and i looked into his eyes in the beginning . it was the invitation of your grand a georgia tomato into solves a with a bomb. i was even more just the we had, we sat in the beginning. uh and the base simply the warranty. okay. which started at the 2014, under obama. uh, are you there? yes. yes. so uh with by then he started with the geneva assignment and i'm, uh,
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i'm just terrified to seek what would be them of use. oh if you step. so what's the name of them, what you're saying here, and i'll throw it back to george here is that there's no real change of thinking in washington and in london. um, they are going to continue this. i think you do all solve a recent interview with victoria new and when the questionnaire. and the question was about the assemble process a few weeks into the complex. and we don't have to go over what she said. you just have to look how she said that she was. so it's moke. i mean, yeah, you know it's, it's broken and we all have to fix it. there's, there's no choice. you have to work on this path and we have to continue it. that's what makes is very, very depressing. what is a wednesday as and his plan is in a material to me, george. so i agree with the piece of it because i think of it. so it's, it's very important to differentiate what zalinski and key of ones.
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and what the united states and nato one, the united states, and they to really couldn't care less about the print up so they couldn't get it. they look at how many lives have been lost. they don't do that. not even that interested in what's going on on the battlefield, just as long as your brain can continue the sides. um, but the objective goal along has been to weaken the grade to really age russia, knock it back in a decade, centuries in terms of the physical and economic development who obviously hoping to kill off as many russians as possible. and as long as the landscape is willing to go along with that and indeed is ego moreland, you get their goal. okay, give me this web and give me that web and give me the removal the restrictions on using weapons. let's, uh, uh, you know, for provoking even worse. well then they're, they're happy with it. and that's what we say. it is. the price i guess is depressive, because for them that's
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a state this rule is achieving what we want to. and i think the goal, of course, is to separate russia permanently from europe, give us some of that that hold the deal between russian and europe, which has been an american nightmare since the end of the fall of the soviet union . that, that's all of the tables. so for the americans, as they will. yeah. let's, let's keep it going. why you know, why not? and that's why i think that is it does the landscape once very badly. the best part of this uh to fix a plan to remove all restrictions on the use of, um, uh, this long range weapons, they have a brothers, they attack them so they know all the, uh, the scouts, the french scouts. um its a i think you'll get it. this may not be a public announcement, but i think they will do it because the say this is good. it's more headaches. for russia, let this move more lives, lots of more pain and humiliation, and everything is up to them to decide what they're going to do. so i think that
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you know, that within the next few months we will see a terrible escalation. yeah, let me get a demo also. it's very interesting in this so called victory plan, and it will eventually be revealed. um, what it does is it puts this complex squarely into nato world because the only way this conflict can move forward is if nato is actively involved in a green to it. and this is what the rush of this i've been saying from day one. this is a nato conflict, and if it's going to move forward, if you crate is even going to continue exist in his current form, it's gonna have to be a nato decision one way or another zalinski. and in a weird way with, i mean this country loses, but he wins, at least the narrative. everybody likes to use and for the time being demo. oh, i think that's basically the green and brush. it's not that cold it but you know, brandon bra seats quotes, liked about let's be fair about between the global souls that set stems. b kind
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rough show it to give you the larger, you know, and the global west. and the, it's interesting, you know, a just, i think a few hours ago, a few days ago, uh, india back and then i just states and a straight a came out with that statement on the durable piece. and you create the, you know, if you keep in his territory like there was a book, and the statement did not contain the russia. you the same way. i mean, they, they pretend not going to stand the rush it as huge. interesting to crate that ukraine is very important for the security of your rep. that's it's, it's like the stand show for the present, the notes and the basically i agree with gorge. i'm coming back to what i said about the beginning of every a presidential term in america being pro ration and the and being very cool just but you the beginning, the president this fresh from booking to hold as well to see the states one piece
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with the russians with other countries, but towards them there is more and more each less of the leads and, and what you describe, you know, striking, brushing 3rd feet deep. yes, i can deepen side, rushing their feet by your being made weapons. by the way, your boss lady gave it to you still night, the state. so there is wishy washy about it the your pm read us. yeah. because one of those really weird situations where they and the american ministration tells the british you can use your missiles exactly if they get against russ, it's very and it shows how the him fires the live at the board when they go back to charge before we go to the break here, you know, judge and provide zima brought up these other countries that are um, considering um, uh, the protection of ukrainian sovereignty. but it's something that you and i have brought up and email over the years. years now is a the, the big 3 plan, the piece plan, all the other plan they never talk about,
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or very rarely talk about security, george. oh, absolutely. right. because the letter of the, of, of the west, the view you can hear it in speech is a, particularly a fulton, but is when he talks about our security, nato security at the, you know, the, that was, that's the only thing a mass is. this is our security and they never acknowledge that all the country isn't, particularly as we have seen russia. security is in any way. it's even massive. apparently, russia is role, is simply to accept the nato's assurances, american insurance has a face value with that just so we just, we also provide me a peaceful reduced lease up ends, the lines, windows the vents of alliance. and although we, we don't, we don't intend, well at the browser, russia should accept those. but of course, then you'll say, well, how come you don't accept russia's assurances that you told me that i was secure? what else to do? but you don't accept anything that are actually to say about, well, we have no aggressive and then we have no interest left. so it's,
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it's the complete blindness to the appreciation of all the countries that go with. and that is what does lead nato and russia to this dissolve is point to one. so that's recognize, this complet could come to and in general, and i'm going to jump in here, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some really stay with our to the welcome back to across that bull barnes and peter lavelle to remind you were discussing some real is a need to be met before relate to the break you wanted to make one more point about what the so called victory plan. go ahead. yeah, it looks like as the, uh, is going to be a nightmare because uh uh, they decided to double don't. i mean read what go to boca says,
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i think it was in the washington. what's enforced, i guess, right? strike deep interaction with the west of the whereabouts. even bad weston expos into the ukranian on. i mean, good to go with a special representative for obama, for several years. she is drop. what's to prevent this? not to let the trap to fail miserably. allow what does suggest to make the walmart payable. you know, the strike deep and the russian sand. you asked me to treat you through you. great . uh you know what they say? it seems to me, oh also there's a very dangerous point they make on to watch and isn't found what there will be no peace. so you might have available in history about his mood rhetoric. you probably remember she said type of thing is usually invite matt with out and then so we will and this nightmare with for or this better. ok with them because for well, the rest of our lives and then basically it up to the resolution and tools days you
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in consequences. these people, you know, they, they live in because when they say they're kind of, you know, was of no peace with origin in goals in games. but as they gazed towards it on the pool, you know there wasn't empowerment here in the rest of the last 3 weeks. and you the ability to 1000 rush to get everything to preserve relationship with your p and you and your wisdom united states. so a conservative estimate shows that peace is possible, but these people are bullshit and everybody who, for the fee we, we gonna only have peace if way is that make a resume change in russia. and that was against the promise of linked them, not, or definitely quote him we, i'm not uh can you can for his, you can change, you know, your waste included most cool. that turns out to be a lot. which he said in the beginning, old wisest. that the problem is, is all these plans, whether it comes from the former president of ukraine or the legal president,
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to be grand, ever. you want to define it? they don't talk about peace far it present the phrase. that's why residency don't say president best. so it's a favorite, but switch gears have gotten at george we all of us have been just a guest by this technological tech, no terrorism, that israel is employed and love it. i continued as we speak right now. and of course, defenders of israel or will quite gleefully on social media. we're happy to to see it where i'm somehow basically referring to the pagers and other electronic devices that were somehow when one form or another captured and used as a weapon. i mean, it was really quite amazing that very few of pointed out that this whole process is creating involuntary suicide bombers, which of course has terrorism here. i suppose what i find, not only do i find this very disturbing because in a country like, let me know on beepers are used by medical personnel a lot. okay. i mean there's
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a bit, there's a dual use as a say here, but george doesn't this such a precedent that well is israel can do such a pair rising thing and be applauded by the west. what's to stop the other countries in groups doing the same thing? or i think that's the, that's the salient. going to a piece of because, um, what israel did, let's go to that. obviously, it didn't, didn't reflect the humiliation on the his ball up because that obviously, you know, has ball a network with supply chain and everything had been complete to penetrate to by israel and, and a, but what, so the really important is that is right. it was enables israel's champions in the west about celebrating that so. so these are the target to the tech support. so they, once i get to the backs, because even if, you know, you go to the, the b book of this, but in the pocket of, uh, somebody from his ball. uh, you know,
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he may be in the marketplace. it may be the school, it may be on a plane, it may be on a bus, a lot of other people are going to be a hood then obviously the thousands of people were foot um, as a result of this uh, these exploding pages. um, so they, they want to, i get the tag, but i think it's very important that once this is done and other countries could, including israel, including the united states, i can say, well, why don't we do this a more often, you know, why don't we just the take out to whoever we don't like, you know, take a big old man and then say, well, what are you going to do about it? and, and so then then, and then go be, where do you know russia lead as russian generals as a well, okay, we took them out and you know, that was, it was a target at the time. what are you going to do? but well, you know, what, if it's, so they've decided, you know, we don't like some of the holocaust and i are in london. why don't we just, they came out of the so is so this house extending those lives throughout the world . you just simply get to conduct these targeted assassinations. it doesn't matter.
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you know, you can completely in different to who else is going to be hurt as a result. but you created this, this pressure then whereby you can just carry out assassinations and be completely oblivious of the consequences. yeah. and then even the whole issue of proportionality is, it is now turned it on its head. mean it, when you go making an idiot, almost every single comp, like the, the, the west coast comments on around the world. they look at the rules of law. they shouldn't even convention is all that the numbers apply, but it comes to israel. your, i mean, the whole issue of proportionality and me to give one a combat moved and you have to be very, very careful not to take out. no combat and smell that is complete. i might as well . um, um, uh, uh, reading and, and covering um these uh, horrific events that he gave the whole issue of proportionality as never was mentioned in western media. all they do is they, they, they seem to be a co home and thing, the x rays base rails on their ingenuity, well,
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killing innocent people's intentionally is you should not be considered in genius daemon. uh well, i think something really terrible is just happened this week. uh, it is comparable to a modem. so all the chemical weapons that the nuclear weapons, this weapon ice ational calls for devices. it's something that bill won't the science fiction until recently and always suddenly became via the t us and, and even leave only accessible out there. it gives what i see that will not make it less of a credit. i mean, when chemical weapons were used by the germans, you know, during the 1st of all, the more against the, the, the, the, the british and the french in the past. from here, the, then will the pete, you know, for that. well, that terrible guess it was a terrible crime. people don't bully media tree. people are killed because everyone southern down, stuart how vulnerable you may need to, you know, and, and, and of course the, it's a, it's a way to me for some, i'm sorry,
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crazy. but additions, well known state asked us to see quote, demi nation, because what did they do? even if they what, exit, all the gays, community personnel. okay. communication, getting in touch with your soul just as an essential spot. well, what if i, if you can get in touch with your soul just now? you know, i mean you, you cannot continue us resisting. so it's a way to world domination sound like we can use weaponized. ational calls for devices can be dictate the what. and what is the reaction of the west instead of talking about central to you instead of saying, hey, something terrible? cuz jessica then you hear a she must as jessica, instead of they say, are the time it would not be worse. but i think it was just coming to cairo, whether it's care, unquote, in the washington post, david ignatius the time in football, be awards blinking to be the same. i mean, it's just photographs. uh,
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they impose all kinds of sanctions on the petitions in russia, either on sometimes they never killed anyone, you know, as a, they're what human cold, 14 in a while. but these people are on the sanctions during the day. do you think, what did we mean included, included? i mean, big champions, and no one of the sections. and these are, after this terrible i would say die bullet cold. what they did was die of when it comes to be good because the of the demonstration effect here are we also george because as of the way west, immediate betray today is the, calculate at it in the bonds. is that you know, ok for the, for what many western countries, hezbollah is the big terrorist organization for most of the world does it and see because the law is that it's a political party, it has seats in parliament. it is the for many, many people. it is the backbone of civil society and 11 on because it bits of we just covered its problems, but it was as well as comp carved out a,
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a place where itself. i mean, they did liber rate um, southern 11 on from occupation by the problem. that one of the is really occupational means a lot of people's look to as well off, you know, again, they're not all combatants. their nurses, their doctors, their taxi drivers, george. so they have, oh, this is the that's the case. that's a yeah. is it you hear this is bella, is a, a, a is a movement. um, but what is relas demonstrate that, is that what you're saying? i'm, i know that or show israel did this by itself this semester with what a great deal of technological sophistication. and i have to say that they had a help to say the lease from the c i a so for the americans, the variables are really mazda. as of science, i mean george state g to back that up. i mean, right after it happened on the 1st day with the pagers, from what i could tell the white house said we, they had nothing to do with a new knowledge of it. by, by the 3rd day they, they,
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it's been reported that they were aware of such an attack, but maybe not all the data. i mean, they change their story all the time just to back into the base they, they change the story of over time. and, and it was also interesting that when the, the other, the other day, when a israel carried out this assassination of abraham keel, this uh, his ball a lead to the americans with gleeful. and although it just rejoicing because he allegedly took part in this, of the bombing of the american marine barracks and the american embassy in the bay roads in 1983. so that's for 40 years ago. again, this is a little a legs, they don't have no idea that he worked about this. but either way is or 40 years ago, either just gary app to assess the nations when what happened over 40 years ago. but, but the point is that this kind of the activity is, is done,
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you know, the, to the moralize, to humiliate and, and to put, you know, essentially the fear into as well. and i think that israel has succeeded, or they sent the deal succeed by me, and then sort of selling them well they, you are up against somebody vastly more technologically sophisticated when you are deciding to deal with is addresses or as long term problems. but it is an, an act you know, against, as well as saying, well, now, now what are you going to do? you're up against us. us being israel found the united states well eventually, since a precedent has been sadly bade. but she will be on the other foot. i wonder how london nurse or new york as will feel when 3000 of their citizens are headed by this guy doing. but no terrorism. the attitude will be very, very different. i can tell you again, but hypocrisy is extraordinary. that's all the time we have dental. and i think my guess in budapest and here in mosque. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here are the see next time. remember across the apples,
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the the 50 people of killed the 300 me did as is well strikes 11 on this is that the idea for poor did remove heavy alma to who was the world. and for that, we're gonna have a live update from our correspondence in a week in just a moment. the gum fire break size is, is waiting for is wait palestinians, pestilence across the west bank that says, evidences emerging of which forces he's being committed,

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