frustrated images presented as fast. can you see through their illusions, going underground again? no energy is a fundamental indicator of how well you are going to be storing. probably when this does vision of india is a board and of any and vicious roofing. i think the more the government things back up today, we've all become victims of 5 technology politics brings a logic kind of us, that's all russian federation. cooperation is an exceptionally important. does it go buying a so much? i said, do i buy it from? whoever sends me at the most competitive price. why does it bother the? i don't think it does the hello and welcome my name is unimplemented. welcome to my show bed. for the next

half an hour, we will discuss all things in the motto to be the very special guest is a season diplomat and a prominent politician who served as india as a permanent representative to united nations and had 4 administrative positions today. subbing of india minnes, truck petroleum and natural gas bank. i'm part of the police are the party was born in delhi. in 1952. he got his masters in history from delhi university and joined and used for in service in 1974. during his remarkable diplomatic career, he has served his joint secretary to the government of india in the ministry of external affairs and ambassador to brazil. pardeep corey also served as indies permanent representative to the you and in geneva. and in new york, he joined the bgp in 2013 and was 1st appointed the minister of housing and urban affairs in just 4 years time. from 2019 to 2021. he held 3 ministerial positions at

the same time. he is currently serving, administered petroleum and natural gas. thank you. it's an honor to speak to a i post. i met you in new york and now we had, here's chatting about life. you come from a diploma family. do both disability. not to a joyce that you need to get into this. i don't think i ever exercised a choice size of 12 in terms of career. and i wanted to be a diplomatic because my father was in the industry based on the 1st. so that's a life i was born in to me. as a 4 year old child. i accompanied my father when he went and his 1st boasting to born in germany me when i was 16 years old and joining the university. i was. it's was still student politics. i floated with both the less than that

item as we understand it than normal language. and yes, i was elected student leader in 1971. so after i finished my diploma, that could be a of 39 years. it's not that i exercise a choice, it was almost a natural or just been to the next phase of my life, which was the b zippy. i had made my intentions very clear. there was in fact an instance in 2008. when i just come back from brazil, when i was in bassett, a and i would say country and daily. and i wanted to consider joining politics even then. i remember i went to the then leadership of the body and expressed an interest in uh, contesting the 2009 elections from bailey, the party,

for whatever reason. very difficult to say with the benefit of hens. hindsight, they decided not to give me a ticket. that was a good thing. then i went on to new york where i became permanent representative. and i had the privilege of presiding over the security council because then there was elected to the council of in 2011 and 12. and i remember when you and women was established, my very distinguished host was one of the 1st he fought. she's yeah, was appointed time of the planet of the brand best design advisor that also so it was a very fulfilling of nearly 5 years in new york. but when i came back in 2013, what i had wanted to do, i almost fell into a slot again in 2014. i wanted a little extra, a ticket to fight the looks of i election. i would have thought it did not find it right. they didn't, didn't give me a ticket, but i didn't also know before that i just expressed it comes up. but then before i

knew what was happening, i was pointed to the council of ministers in 2017, and that's with nearly 70 s plus. what is the main difference between being and deployment and a politician bigger, but i'm just, i'm more the and as a cabinet, as unbelievable. lee, brilliant diplomats done into ministers. and it speaks about his acumen also to choose such a loan as people. but what is the difference between that i, i don't know, and i perhaps have not been able to find the answer. i agonize about this, i usually get nice carefully, you know, just interest. i agonize about it. what mix a bus and able to navigate and diploma is just the kind of thought i use ition. but i think where the civil servant audio then academic all of you, or if i made respectfully submit a highly successful person in the world of and the clear there was a scene of this on the street that which is a fundamental requirement which has to be able to get on with people,

but your point of view across sit fanatic to reach out to your audience. that's part of the problem is what that's also part of what it takes. i mean, i was reminded when i was very young as a 77 and we last of the senior civil 7. and he said, you know, that my knew how to navigate when he sideboards politicians. he couldn't use his skills as a civil servant done as a diplomat to talk to them. and yet when he was with the dye had bureaucrats, he could also use his skills as a politician to navigate to. so i think these are interchangeable. these are the other facets of the same personality as to some people and never make the funds of the time seeing, you know, somebody. but i think if you've been in any profession for 39 years, i was shortly. there must have been something you've got to learn by way of knowing how to relate to people going, how that and the wonderful politics brings

a logic and what's that's all i mean is a diploma to other credited from one country to another. or if you're into you and you are dealing with the member states, but political gotten was is much larger. so i think it also provides good training now. but i'm going to some movies in the i can become energy independent by 2047. how do we get there? i think the probably when this does vision of india, a exhibiting board and a very alicia's rubin, because he also wants india to be a developed country by 2047. so what do you, what you're talking about is india with an economy of $25000000.00 as against. busy trillion the fortunately and all that. now, no energy is a fundamental indicator of how well you are going to be doing. i know from g, if you ask anyone a question on any countries,

consumption goes on energy rising, audit, declining at this table. if you give you a fairly good idea of how the economies in india today, i've been, this is show rapid consumption please. i don't want to start early with the facts, but we are today consuming 5000000 barrels of crude oil in a day, which is going into other science, 5000000 bottles in a day. they sort of figured in about a few days ago, yesterday or day before i had to appear on a show like this. and i did my homework and the figured have come up to 5330000. that is, you know, it's, it's a mass of how we are going to, in the next few years to look at them in google and consumption of $6000000.00 barrels per day, plus us in the next to tickets. next 20 years, 25 percent of the increase in global demand is going to come from india. so your question is a very specific pointed question and i apologize,

we're giving you a long waiting it on so it will come from several things. one, a massive increase in explanation and production. what happened is, for a long period, we just taught that if crude oil is available at reasonable rates all over the world, why do you want to know explanation and production? even when i joined this one is 33 years ago, a lot of people in the place of the why do want to import. oh, i do want to spend money on prospecting, but no, i think the multi government thinks better and we have released out of the $3500000.00 square kilometres of supplementary basing would to be at 1000000 square kilometers, which was normal area has been released for prospecting, we've taken all the data and put it on a repository in the university of texas. all the major oil companies in the world are now coming. one thing to invest here in the earlier, george was, you know,

the government invest and if you find the oil and then we have started to solve it . and right, this is us. so the investor would say, why should i come in? now we're really in incentivize the invest upcoming and we're willing to even go finance the the, the, the, you know, the operation to look for it. we're going into biofuels and a very big list, a multi assumed responsibility. our total biofuel blending in our energy mix was 1.4 percent of that about today we are doing 15 percent last month. we that 50 percent. we had a thought of april 20 percent by 2030. we're going to do it by 2025. we're going to go with the green hydrogen in the big way. but having said all this, it's my understanding that at least for 20 years from now, you will also be dependent on fossil fuels, which is, i mean,

they got got into if you're doing 5 and 5000005330000 barrels a day. it will go up to even save and all that about is it going to be all done domestically? domestic production will go up. the rest will be imported and the up limited, but the self sufficiency is that you will not be dependent on external sources. now one good thing that does happen is that because you're allowed to buy, it also gives you some leverage in terms of how much you buy at what price you buy, et cetera. i think the 2047 and a do. so sufficiency coming from solar, a big with green hydrogen, like i think green hydrogen is a fuel of the future. now what do you need for? what do you need to get green hydrogen? you need to be able to use clean energy at a reasonable price that the solar we've already demonstrated that from 25 cents

a unit, we brought the price of solar down to $0.03 a unit. and then you need an electrolytes that we put that on the p l. i scheme. so today i would say that all out of statements of green hydrogen for the next 5 years success ready to be on the estimates? i see green hydrogen exploding. i see biofuels with a 20 percent target. i see that going to put the 40 percent 40 percent in mall. so your energy will be interesting. you will be able to solve your aggregate for problem of 12 and with a 10 percent blending. we give off almost $41400.00 gross because you save that money due to impulse. now when you do 20 percent blending, depending on the global price, it will give you a promise more today. yup biofuels. that's an old feed is coming from sugar. okay. and it's coming from is it's coming from broken food green, it's coming from agricultural waste. so be self sufficient energy in the part of

the prime minister and this side is it's a large gun was including all this. what is it that you think is right now happening in part of that is making audits or why? but i think what is happening and how that is something which is a combination. if i'm it's the submit of 3 factors. we have gone from being apologetic about our development, the space we will under develop, beemer wondered, looked at it devices for and there's something remarkable that this happened. is that the boss, the honorable prime ministers in spirit, in us, a pride in our historical and civilizational boxed as a thing to say. and i think he believes that it's only countries which have free of 10 bride in them says defending a case in point of have the ability to grow. and i was severely and strongly believing that because, you know, if you are going to buy into the wisdom that if the one that's a negative,

i was brought up on a new budget. and i, when i went to school, when i went anywhere, you know, they would look at india as a, as, as a country, which is, you know, maybe to be with and if not, despise that idea of a long way to go. maybe we had people who were displaying in just as a snake country upsize smith. i'm live in elephant and absolutely buyers or people buy them up in the high position. absolutely. so then came along mr. toby had a bunch by you, my them a great respect. i had the privilege of knowing and for a long time, and we couldn't get it out the nuclear tests, which gave you a sudden edge in terms of once you have a new good attendance, move ridiculous. likely, mostly it has been, but then the last 10 years have been remarkable in terms of the kind of b cannot make product. the forces which have been unleashed is a government can only provide a small catalyst. they can provide some ideas, no matter which way you would. and what used to happen is there is to say that that

i said what i'm in the as out there, that is the a flow and india, which is, you know, very way to do. and then that is a very poor and i, they wouldn't be more than 10 years of succeeded in doing this realization is we not been able to get that negative across is that he just said that good governance is also good politics. so sort of all day until day and he's taking the develop the folks of development or the benefits of development to the fullest, to the fathers by which was by the way, the agenda of the sustainable development goes 2030, which came into being, i think, the 2016, but more than you'd already started in 2014, which means what ford could order for the 13 of us, georgia. and i was saying version another 3 cro. if paper didn't have cooking gas, you would give them cylinder. would draw out 10, grow or 28 black cylinders given under that would you are asking the metro system.

know india is a country on the moon to day on metro system is getting one drawer people passengers per day. but today are open. population is just over 30 percent and we had 1400000 people is a 30 percent. by the time we don't 50 percent of and population, there will be 800000000 people living in india. so you would need an open transport system. so the metro system in the next few years will be the 2nd largest in the world and a little bit take to south korea, japan and the united states, which is that 1560 kilometers. the point i'm making is it's not one thing. you bring an ecosystem. and today look at this digital evolution. financial intrusion, and we can list, go us all segments of society. i mean, look at the handling of the pen to me in and of itself. we have one country and the word which declared the loved them quickly. also, because if it's

a choice between life and livelihood, your con, the end of it will save lively, will do god just light. and then we came out of it also quickly, but it was like all independence, new manufactured vaccines, not only provided what something like $220.00 or the vaccine, those as 2 people in india motor most feet. but you also supply to 100 other countries. so today, you're not only doing this, but what you're doing yet. i know, but g is applicable on a larger scale in the global south, in, in africa, in latin america, even in parts of centrally shots that to us and essentially europe also. so india has come up, you look at the automobile and do the, but more than that, i would say you come to the cutting edge technologies when it comes to be nitrogen, we don't need it because so in all these areas, these are the 3 things. civilizational fast, they think development now and then embracing technology, digital, and all that with a religious. well, i'm phasing,

do you feel that in the see the list and the word from a huge economic might have done in 2022? absolutely. how to see when the military operations to face. so if you're talking about 5 of the $22.00, let's look at the hard fact. some the hot facts that the russian federation produced 13000000 barrels of crude oil in a day. if you what i'm gonna say, hoping hypothetically, if you were to pick the position that there will be no imports or purchases from the shop, then expensive reason. they've been thought of putting willing bottles which was being produced and consumed. whatever to be purchased from somewhere else. right, or whether it would have been purchased from, from the other supply. so just imagine if the doors were supplying the global total was about a $120000000.00 bottles of it with that cut, the 1000000 barrels off. it is the other matters. it will be a more pressure on that, which means the price went up short up to $25300.00. so one popular misconception

was that, you know, people have said that, uh, you cannot buy uh, oil from russia. so i was one of those upfront, but i see that with great uh price i question, does it wait a minute, wait a minute? what are we discussing? the oil, which comes through a pipeline from the russian for division to hungry, is exempt from any such stock. the oil, which goes in a pipeline from the russian federation to china, is exempt sales from the cycling to japan and the parties that exam. so what is intended again then slowly everybody said no, no, it's not that it's best that you should buy. then they impose the price gap. i have been saying to a lot of my friends all over the world, i don't want to name any country. you said go buying a so much i so do i buy from whoever sends me at the most competitive price, because my or marketing companies. so they provide 19 percent of the country store revenue. so they will be short and up. and they will say,

we want to disagree with the wind. anyone wants to compete, couldn't complete them, but then the in february, the 22, our purchase is of a good iron restaurant. literally 0.2 percent me only 0.2 percent from today. last month it was well worth $35.00, nearly 40 percent. why does it bother the? i don't think it does. the rest. it doesn't bother. oh, maybe a bank. $20000000.00 in the us. why? how come? nobody mentions. i please. the political diplomatic move on is though it is, i, it's, i really need best more. i have been saying, if you have a large farm and let them america lodge oil farm and who have suddenly find all that we know. and if you can provide a cheap, we will so know these things will go up and down. however, the imports to a large lead from saw the it'd be, uh, the minutes go with it out. well, i think that keeps coming up and down. i don't think it's really bothering anyone. well, they have their problem solved. i. they would say that i want us to buy an oil at the competitive rates,

but that's an entirely different discussion. good. i know the construction is on the, for the new, the actors in contact with them. how important is this cooperation that i show any reading i can tell you, we've been to a very fascinating phase in our approach to imagine doing that. one more thing is we had the, you know, this design because new nuclear energy ideally shouldn't be a source of providing a very significant portion of your requirements. we signed an india specific safeguards agreement. we did all these things, etc. but it's always been what took off and that or not, but idea of the russian federation cooperation is an exceptionally important of cooperation with the slide soviet union. in many unfreezes, i mean defense as you know, energy. now the nuclear etc is extremely important. and we greatly evaluate, so what are those key objectives or it's engagement in the categories and in terms

of energy, energy, as defined in the broadest possible, um, as broad as possible. and i mean new look forward, whatever. and i do, you can get click on all, but today you know, the new and then you makes you're going to be looking at read some of those, all that. so like any country, but you know, this is a game in which some country is going off the mark earlier, but i certainly believe that there's enough around everywhere. and i believe that somebody's vision production and supply lines would industrialize. and countries which have large markets, whoever has the, the saw. so we'll also need to send it to them now buttons and give you an idea of where to stop buying, say, what 5 or 6000000 barrels a day. you know, how much a while it would be, and where would be the organ advised me? i mean, do i own large biased or did china and india i knew about us. but, you know, with the advent of electric vehicles coming in would be able to take advantage of either the hybrids biofuels coming in, green hydrogen, etc. the world of changing. but i still think for the fuel foreseeable future,

this kind of energy mix is something we will need to be anchored in photo wise. how does, how do they put the relax a very good question. the question may have some really of oh, why doesn't have the ability to learn? so i mean i've, i've, no, i, i'd be late, i go to the next person when i relaxed otherwise, but the know by relaxed i think you had a very positive construct under like some is the switch off the switch off today we've all become victims of the technology before this lead but felt happy and one at night you're looking at the messages when you get up in the morning. first thing is you're looking at amazon. so i think taking the time off, well, that's not going to happen this now because you have a boss was completely dedicated to look. i don't think is big on a holiday and did you want, does it task master done that's up to you. i mean, he has a lot of lot lot, a lot of people working for him. i don't think everyone shows what drives to

respond to that. look, he's older than me. i don't think i've heard him take a holiday and see what a stephen is through a router that out. and i received him in the and in geneva when i was loan and representative. but the point is that, um, i think its gwen has progressive with the last few months has been particularly hectic because it a lot of 85 be election campaign. actually we were working in the election more the one for 6 months earlier. so i think that does it, but i hope to slow down. i think what needs to before i don't to use road. no i but i, i think it is. it's always a noble intent. so do you read or you watch it for and or do you listen to poetry or do you listen to music? i listen to music throughout the day. okay. i mean, whether i'm in the car or even during meetings i have music playing and all the i'll go to terms that have on that, that's playing all the time. and then actually it was here. i would invariably

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