i there, the entail young rule collapsed in 1951. libya became one of the 1st countries in africa to gain independence. the, oh, what else seemed wrong? just don't you have to shave house because of the after care and engagement because the trails when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look so common ground, the hollywood local. now i was going to dream live for dreams. come true. we have approximately 10000000 people in california that are risk of becoming on

house looks good man pulls up somebody for working to pretty jobs and still not enough because of the cost of leaving. also has to increase the co bags and then they'll buy shares last year long. the amount of, of homeless rose by 12 percent in california. you know, energy is a fundamental indicator of highway our economies doing probably when this does vision of india is the board in a very ambitious roof and i think the more the government things back up today, we've all become victims of fire stick politics brings a logic kind of us, that's all russian federation, cooperation is an exceptionally important. you said you're buying a so much i said,

do i buy it from? whoever sends me at the most competitive price. why does it bother the? i don't think it does the to hello and welcome my name is unable to make them do my show better for the next half an hour. we will discuss all the things in the motto to be the very special guest is a season diplomat and a prominent politician who served as india as permanent, the representative to united nations and had 4 administrative positions today. and subbing of india mean disrupt petroleum and natural gas. they've come part of the police are the party was born in w 1952. he got his masters in history from delhi university in joint and used for in service in 1974. during his remarkable diplomatic career, he has served his joint secretary to the government of india in the ministry of external affairs and ambassador to brazil. pardeep corey also served as indians

permanent representative to the you and in geneva and in new york to join the bgp in 2013 and was 1st appointed minister of housing and urban affairs in just 4 years time. from 2019 to 2021. he held 3 missed hero positions at the same time. she is currently serving, administered petroleum and natural gas. thank you. it's an honor to speak to a i 1st i met you in new york and now we had, here's chatting about life. you come from a diploma family do both disability in action, a choice that you need to get into this. i don't think i ever exercise that choice as a 12 in terms of career. and i want it to be a diplomatic because my father was in the ministry based on the 1st. so that's a life i was born in to me as a 4 year old child. i accompanied my father when he went on his 1st boasting to

born in germany me. when i was 16 years old and joined the university. i was in most to student politics. i flirted with both the less than that item as we understand it in normal language. yes. i was elected student leader in 1971. so after i finished my diploma, it could be a of 39 years. it's not that i exercise a choice. it was almost a natural word. let's been to the next phase of my life, which was the visa p. i had made my intentions very clear. there was in fact, an instance in 2008, when i just come back from brazil. but i was an advisor to and i would say country and daily, and i wanted to consider joining politics even then. i

remember i went to the then leadership of the 5 d and expressed an interest in uh, contesting the 2009 elections from any party, for whatever reason. very difficult to say with the benefit of hindsight, they decided not to give me a ticket. that was a good thing. then i went on to new york where i became permanent representative. and i had the privilege of presiding over the security council because then there was elected to the council of in 2011 and 12. and i remember when you and women was established, my very distinguished host was one of the 1st he fought. she's yeah, was appointed time of the final to the brand and most of the bags are there also. so it was a very fulfilling of nearly 5 years in new york. but when i came back in 2013, uh, what i had wanted to do, i almost fell into

a slot again in 2014. i wanted a little extra a ticket to fight the looks of by election. a lot of thought it did not find it right. they didn't, didn't give me a ticket, but i didn't also know before that i just expressed that comes up. but then before i knew what was happening, i was pointed to the council of ministers in 2017. and it's been nearly 70 s plus the main difference between being a deployment and a politician bigger. but i'm just, i'm more the and as a cabinet, as unbelievable. lee, brilliant diplomats done into ministers. and it speaks about his acumen also to choose such a loan as people. but what is the difference between that i, i don't know, and i perhaps have not been able to find the answer. i agonize about this. ready usually get nice carefully, not just into the, i agonize about it, what mix a bus and able to navigate and diploma is just the kind of

thought i ition. but i think whether the civil servant audio in an academic audio, or if i may respectfully submit a highly successful person in the world of and the clear there was a set of this on the street the which is a fundamental requirement which has to be able to get on with people, but your point of view across set, the narrative, reach out to your audience and that's part of the problem is what that's also part of what it takes. i mean, i was reminded when i was very young as a 77 and we last of the senior civil 7. and he said, you know, that my knew how to navigate when he sideboards, politicians. he couldn't use his skills as a civil servant done as a diplomat to talk to them. and yet when he was with the dye had bureaucrats, he could also use his skills as a politician to navigate to. so i think these are interchangeable. these are the

other facets of the same personality as to some people never make the tons of the time seeing you know, somebody. but i think if you will been in any profession for 39 years, i was shortly. there must have been something you've got to learn by way of knowing how to relate to people knowing how that and the wonderful politics brings a logic kind of us. that's all i mean is a diploma to other credited from one country to another. or if you want them to you and you are dealing with the member space, but political gotten was is much larger. so i think it also provides good training now. but i'm going to some movies in the i can become energy independent by 2047. how do we get this? i think the try when this does vision of india, the exhibiting board and a very ambitious grouping because he also wants india to be a developed country by 2047. so what do you, what you're talking about is india with an economy of $25000000.00 as

against or fortunately into our 4 trillion dollar amount. no energy is a fundamental indicator of how we're already going to be doing a no problem g. if you ask anyone a question on any countries, consumption goes on energy rising or the declining at this table. if you give you a fairly good idea of how the economies in india today, i've been, this is show rapid consumption, please. i don't want to start early with the facts, but we are today consuming 5000000 barrels of crude oil in a day, which is going into other science and 5000000 bottles in a day. this was a figure in about a few days ago, yesterday or day before i had to appear on a show like this. and i did my homework and the figured have come up to 5330000. that is, you know, it's, it's a mass of what we're going to in the next few years to look at them in google and

consumption of $6000000.00 barrels per day, plus us in the next 2 decades. next 20 s 25 percent of the increase in global demand is going to come from india. so your question is a very specific pointed question and i apologize. we're giving you a long way and it on so it will come from several things. one, a massive increase in explanation and production. what happened is for. busy long period, we just taught that if crude oil is available at reasonable rates all over the world, why do you want to know explanation and production? even when i joined this ministry 3 years ago, a lot of people in well place that the why do want to import. oh, i do want to spend money on prospecting. but no, i think the more the government things better. and we have released out of the

$3500000.00 square kilometres of supplementary b, as soon would to be at 1000000 square kilometers, which was no go area has been released for prospecting. we've taken all the data and put it on a repository in the university of texas. all the major a rated companies in the world are now coming, wanting to invest here in the earlier the job was, you know, the new government invest. and if you find the oil and then we started to solve it and right, this is us. so the investor would say, why should i come in reason? now we're really in incentivize the invest upcoming and we're willing to even go finance the the, the, the, you know, the operation to look for it. we're going into biofuels. and a very big with, when was the multi assumed responsibility? our total biofuel blending in our energy mix was 1.4 percent of that about today we are doing 15 percent last month. we that 50 percent. we had

a thought of april 20 percent by 2030. we're going to do it by 2025. we're going to go with the green hydrogen in the big way. but having said all this, it's my understanding that at least for 20 years from now, you will also be dependent on fossil fuels, which is, i mean, they got got into if you're doing 5 and 5000005330000 barrels a day. it will go up to even save and all that about is that going to be all done domestically. domestic production will go up. the rest will be bought it and they are limited, but the self sufficiency is that you will not be dependent on external sources. now one good thing that does happen is that because you're allowed to buy, it also gives you some leverage in terms of how much you buy at what price you buy, et cetera. i think the 2047 and i do self sufficiency coming from solar

. a big with green hydrogen, like i think green hydrogen is the fuel of the future. now what do you need for? what do you need to get green hydrogen? you need to be able to use clean energy at a reasonable price that is sold up. we've already demonstrated that from $0.25 a unit, we brought the price of solar down to $0.03 a unit. then you need an electrolytes that we put that on the p l. i scheme. so today i would say that all out of statements of re nitrogen for the next 5 years success ready to be on the estimates? i see green hydrogen exploding, icy biofuels with a 20 percent target. i see that going to put the part to percent 40 percent and more. so your energy will be interesting. you will be able to solve your aggregate for a problem of 12 and with a 10 percent blending. we give off almost $41400.00 girls because you save that money due to impulse. now when you do 20 percent blending,

depending on the global price, it will give you a promise more today. yup. biofuels at the low feed is coming from sugar. okay. and it's coming from is it's coming from broken food green, it's coming from agricultural waste. so be self sufficient. energy in the part of the prime minister in the side is it's a large gun was including all this. what is it that you think is right now happening in bottom? that is making audits or why, but i think what is happening in part of it is something which is a combination. if i'm it's submit of 3 factors and we have gone from being apologetic about our development. the space we will under develop, bieber wondered, looked at devices for and there's something remarkable that has happened. is that the boss, the honorable prime ministers in spirit, in us, a pride in our historical and civilizational bossed as

a thing to segment. and i think he believes that it's only countries which have free 10 bride in them says japan being a case and find out have the ability to grow. and i was severely and strongly believing that because, you know, if you are going to buy into the wisdom that at the one that's an additive, i was brought up on a new budget. and i, when i went to school, when i went in with, you know, they were locating as is as a country, which is, you know, maybe to be retained if not despise and the other long way to go. maybe we had people who were displaying in just as a snake country upsize smith. i'm as in elephant and absolutely by the people by the, in the i position. absolutely. so then came along mr. toby had a bunch, but i do my them a great respect. i had the privilege of knowing it for a long time and we couldn't get it out the nuclear tests, which gave you a 2nd edge in terms of on to avenue clear detectives,

me where they just like me most areas. but then the last 10 years have been remarkable in terms of the kind of economic product, the forces which have been unleashed is a government can only provide a small catalyst. they can provide some ideas. i don't, no matter which way you would add, what used to happen is there is to say that that i 7, i'm in the eyes out there that is the floor and india, which is um, you know, very way to do. and then that is a very poor and i it would be more deep daniels have succeeded in doing. and this realization is we have not been able to get that negative across is that he has said that good governance is also good politics. so, side of all that until guy, and he's taken the develop the fruits of development or the benefits of development to the buddhist to the farthest by which was by the way, the agenda of the sustainable development goes 2030, which came into being i think,

the 2016, but more the need only started in 2014, which means what ford could order for the 13 of us who is not. and i was saying version another 3. cool. if people didn't have cooking guys, he would give them cylinder. who do i 10 grow or 28 black cylinders given under that? would you are asking the metro system? know india is a country on the moon to day on metro system is guiding one drawer people, passengers, but they. but today are urban population is just over 30 percent. and we had 1400000 people is a 30 percent. by the time we do 50 percent of and population, there will be 800000000 people living in india. so you would need an open transport system. so the metro system in the next few years will be the 2nd largest in the world a little bit. take the south korea, japan and the united states, which is that $1560.00 of them. and the point i'm making is it's not one thing you

bring an ecosystem. and today look at this digital imaging and financial inclusion . and we can, let's go, was all segments of society. i mean, look at the handling of depend to me, in and of itself. we have one country in the world which declared the log done quickly. also, because if it's a choice between life and livelihood, your con, the end of it will save lively, will do congress light. and then we came out of it also quickly, but it was like all indigenous to be manufactured vaccines. not only provided what something like 220 could order the vaccine. those as do people in india, modern most fleet, but you also supply to 100 other countries. so today you're not only doing this, but what you're doing yet. i know, but g is a replica both on a larger scale in the global south, in south africa and latin america, even in parts of centrally shots such as an essential europe also. so india has

come up, you look at the automobile engine the, but more than that, i would say you come to the cutting edge technologies when it comes to the nitrogen, we don't need it because so in all these areas, these are the 3 things, civilizational fast they think development now and then embracing technology, digital and all that with a village as well. i'm facing the do for you that in the see the list and the word from a huge economic model known in 2022. absolutely. how you see when the military operations to produce. so if you're talking about 5 of the 22, let's look at the hard facts and the hot fact that the russian federation produced 13000000 barrels of crude oil in a day. if you, what i'm gonna say, hope of hypothetically, if you were to pick the position that or there would be no impulse or purchases from the shop, then it's done. so he's been thought of putting wheeling bottles which was being produced and consumed. whatever to be purchased from somewhere else,

where was it would have been purchased from, from the other supplies. so just imagine if the doors were supplying the global total was about a $104000000.00 barrels of a big, $13000000.00 barrels off. it is the other matter. they will be at more pressure on that, which means the price would have gone up to $25300.00. so one popular misconception was that, uh, you know, people have said that, uh, you cannot buy uh, oil from russia. so i was one of those upfront, but i say that with great uh price i question, does it wait a minute? wait a minute. what are we discussing? the oil, which comes to a pipeline from the russian federation to hungry is exempt from any such bulk. the oil, which goes in a pipeline from the russian federation to china, is exempt sales from the cycling to japan and the parties that exam. so what is intended? again, then slowly everybody said no, no, it's not that it's that said, usually by then they impose the price gap. i have been saying to

a lot of my friends all over the world, i don't want to name any country. you said go buying a so much i said, do i buy from whoever sends me at the most competitive price, because my or marketing companies. so they provide 19 percent of the country store revenue. so they will be short and up. and they will say, we want to disagree with the line. anyone wants to compete, couldn't complete them, but then the in february, the 22, our purchase is of a good argument. rochelle, literally 0.2 percent me only 0.2 percent from today. last month it was over $35.00, nearly 40 percent. so why does it bother the i don't think it does the rest. it doesn't bother on. i'd be a bank for the $1000000.00 in the us. how come? nobody mentions that please, the political diploma. they move or is that is i, it's, i really need best more. i have been saying, if you have a large farm and let them america lodge oil farm and who have suddenly find all that we know. and if you can provide a cheap, we will. so know these things will go up and down. power the imports to

a large lead from saw the it'd be, uh, the minutes go with it out. what i think that keeps coming up and down. i don't think it's really bothering anyone what they have their problem solved. i. they would say that i want us to buy an oil at the competitive rates, but that's an entirely different discussion. good. i know the construction is on the bill for the new reactors in contact with them. how important is this cooperation that i show any reading i can tell you, we've been to a very fascinating phase in our approach to imagine doing them. one more thing is we had the, you know, this design because new nuclear energy ideally shouldn't be a science source of providing a very significant portion of your requirements. we signed an india specific safeguards agreement, we did all these things, etc. but then it's always never took off and then or not, but idea of the russian federation cooperation is an exceptionally important of

cooperation with the side soviet union. in many unfreezes, i'm in defense. this, you know, energy now the nuclear etc is extremely important. it'd be great to evaluate. so what are the key objectives, what it's engagement in the author, degrees and in terms of energy, energy as defined in the broadest possible, um, as broad as possible. and i mean new look forward. whatever energy you can get, click on all for today, you know, the new and new mexico going to be looking at, read some of those all left. so like any country, but you know, this is a game in which some country is going off the mark earlier, but i certainly believe that there's enough around everywhere and that will be less nobody's vision. production and supply lines would industrialize. and countries which have large markets, whoever has the, the saw so, and also need to say, no buttons and give you an idea of where to stop buying, say what 5 or 6000000 barrels a day. you don't, how much on while it would be?

and we would be, the organ advised me, i mean, you are all lodge biased or the china and india any of others. but, you know, with the advent of electric vehicles coming in with the advent of other, the hybrids biofuels coming in, green hydrogen, etc. the one that's changing, but i still think for the fuel foreseeable future, this kind of energy mix is something we wouldn't need to be anchored in photo. why? how does, how do they put a, relax, a very good question. the question may have certainly of, oh, why doesn't have to be put in the, like i said i've, i've no i, i'd be late, i go to the next person window and then i'm relaxed. otherwise, but the know by relaxed i think you had a very positive construct under like some is the switch off the switch off. today we've all become victims of the technology before you see. but prototype in one at night. you're looking at the messages. when you get up in the morning, 1st thing is you're looking at amazon. so i think taking a time off,

well that's not going to happen this now because you have a boss was completely dedicated to look. i don't think he is bigger than a 100 in uh did you want? does it task master done that's up to you. i mean, he has a lot of lot lot a lot of people working for them. i don't think everyone shows tries to respond to that lucas or letting me i don't think i've heard him take a holiday and see what else do you want us to know who is or how does it out. and i received him in the and in geneva. when i was well known trip executive, but the point is that uh, i think its gwen has progressed over the last few months, has been particularly hectic because it's a lot of $85.00 b election campaign. actually we were working in the election more the one for 6 months earlier. so i think that does it, but i hope to slow down. i think what needs to before i don't to use florida. no i but i, i think it is. it's always a noble intent. so do you read or you watch

a feeling or do you listen to poetry or do you listen to music? i listen to music throughout the day. okay. i mean, whether i'm in the car or even during meetings i have music playing and all the i go to terms that have on that, that's playing all the time. well actually it was here. i would invariably watch netflix also what a lot of movie and, and uh for both of us and both of us reads quite a bit. thank you. of the 1980 and i can get you mike. and thank you for watching. joining me next week, as we uncolored a new list and yet another debate and let's stuff out of i'm of them kid, goodbye the

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