are you there any meetings and boss or the lender? all this actually kind of contradicts recent wall street journal reporting, suggesting that someone's sky was in the loop, but they just couldn't control this guy solution. he, because it's not like zalinski is the president of ukraine or anything within days . so lensky approved the plan, according to the full people familiar with, applaud all the arrangements were made verbally leaving no paper trail. the c, i a wound, zalinski is office to stop the operation. us official said the ukrainian president then ordered sally's need to hold it. but the general ignored the order and his team modified the original plan. no who else? legal says was totally powerless to stop anything super weak. the c i a and german intelligence reporting that dots military intelligence warn them about this operation that they just weren't able to do anything at all to stop it. even though they no doubt really, really tried. just like the only suspect whose identity we have any clue about

vladimir z conveniently managed to slip through the cracks and escape from poland where he was living to ukraine because of some shot in german paperwork. that's according to police authorities. ultimately led to mercy was not detained because at the beginning of july, she left bullish territory crossing the policy green and border free crossing of the policy grand border by the above mentioned, person was possible because german authorities did not include him in the database of wanted persons, which meant that the polish border guard had no knowledge and no grounds to detain blood to mercy. so there you go, the latest twist and turns in this uh, collaborative monday's water mystery. that's evolving to be even money or in real time. but still, conveniently in a way that absolves zalinski us intelligence and the only country whose leader biden openly talked about north stream like he was a mob boss putting out ahead to stay with our to international if next time cross

talk, peter levelland, his guest discussed former ukrainian president. so those these latest us tour and is so called the great time the the the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered on peter lavelle, former ukrainian president zalinski is in the us peddling what he calls a victory plan. unfortunately, this plan doesn't speak to peace and security. in fact, zalinski and his nato patrons have only one goal to keep the complet going and well funded. this approach is a defeat for you,

create the prospecting ukraine. i'm joined by my guess, steven guy, it's in belgrade. is a research associate at build rates institute of european studies in bows. but we have andre that we try and call he is a former ukrainian diplomat. and in sweden we crossed to reg simmons. he is an independent research or, or a gentleman, cross type rules in effect. that means he can jump any time you want. and i always appreciated. stephen, let me go to you 1st and bell grade. this victory plan has been bandied about, i'm not sure what, how much different it is from the zalinski piece plan. we can go there if you want, but what is he trying to achieve because other, you know, at this point, it just seems like a public relations page in the dying days of the biden administration. your thoughts, stephen? it is great that you just as soon as the last these baseline uh, which was rated on uh, june 15th, uh 60 in the near bottle in switzerland. uh when uh,

basically what we had, it was a, uh, were compress. busy the dollars uh waived. sure. all right, but you think the piece by getting more more money and weapons essentially to go from that. uh yes, today i'm leaving. not a lot of his pre a looks are all speech is, is that the last is the greatest salesman. whenever he comes to the stage, she goes backwards with $60000000000.00. and this call press is even i think durable is just because he talks about the victory plan at the moment where you, cranium, these fans is crumbling in the us. and what this means is escalation of war, she demands for me. so to basically directly get involved, what is more important here is over the last few things, but what the nature of the leads and the outgoing at least ration thing. because what they want is, even in the event of truck winning the election,

they want him to become a hostage of war. and at the same time, this goes along with the dramatic escalation of war individually, israel officer of destroying, basically gaza and killing tens of thousands of people now is doing the gap, saying i'm actually in, in lebanon. and what they want is to drag the united space at the same time, we see a high truman shape, uh, aircraft carrier, moving slowly to the middle east. this is very dangerous. i think this is the most dangerous moment so far is between now and a between the american elections. yeah. assuming that it could be what was popularly known as the october surprise, but was, there's so many issues out there that could be the october surprise. unfortunately, andre, let me go to and bounce. so one of them, you know, i can understand ukraine has security interest. so, you know, i, i've never begrudged that. okay, but i can see how this regina,

that it's illegitimate at this point here. so lensky is the former president, after all under its own constitution. but as the landscape doesn't talk about security, he doesn't talk about peas. but he talks, he wants the, the conflict to continue, but the longer it continues, the more he moves as his man and the smaller ukraine becomes like, explain the logic behind this. for me. there is no logic, but there is logic at the same time you want to see kind of that is that that is a so called piece time victory prime. what do you call whatever, but it's a plan for war and destruction of implants. that is the last you could have solve this for in 2019 could have stopped when he became the president with a mr. corps haven't had getting an autonomy for the don't boss area. i'm having a great night. he didn't do that. to continue the search this war longer your process until leading to full scale war between the races and only praying

territory, the writing states and russia using it for young men to die. more than 970000 troops are deadly. from the point inside the grout today, that of the lights, these so called peace plan. yeah. it's the same power lose as much as possible. maybe doesn't care about the printing a man who doesn't care about what's happening. bring you this plane to church because the doc city breaks millions of orthodoxy framework, which is the 1st place of orthodoxy in the side of the world. so this is what we see today, a full destruction of time before, but we pray to feed it to black rock, to the beach, safety to keep himself in power. and that is it. there's no peace i call it could have done it and stop to 2022 and it was full of what shed. he didn't do it because he got orders directly from washington. love to keep this one going because to make more money to make more money for the most industrial comforts of washington and of the state. that is it, this is probably pretty important standpoint too. i talked to

a lot of the product to form it. it's about to go around the world today. more than 60 percent of the printer provided for him come back. that is a fact. and we all are just wondering what i'm saying. this is where it's the rank seat is. i think i've, you said it would. you ever present, would you be part of them in the frame and just use scope? so call positive deflection. were you print, you're going to use the story, our country, you have to, we. yeah, well i want to know later eventually he'll probably end up in one of his villas in miami or, or one another, a police or destination. that's what he thinks, what we have. what's the well, i mean if he gets out of the country, because a lot of people want to see him in a ditch as well. that's what happens when you choose a patron, like nato. great, and what are they? we had over the last few days, we had the british prime minister at the behest of tony blink and apparently go to washington. and that was gonna be the big fan fair that you know, the ukrainians couldn't use western weapons issued deep into russia. it didn't happen, there wasn't a press conference, there really wasn't much of

a read out. and of course, well, the political sphere is a buzz. what's happened here? the dependent gone finally say no. you, people are really, really nuts, particularly since we're on the hook to go to a war in the middle east again. i don't know. maybe we'll find out the truth here. but we did, we, we were staring into the abyss because for a change, they listen to what president vladimir putin said. you do that, then we're in a state of war with nato. go ahead, greg and sweden. oh, absolutely. as you saw healing the 80 head per piece of the whole round. where was this uh, kind of the stuff weird but going to a well big hand which they needed to actually activate the targets russia. and they expect the consequences of, uh, being able to pause page and it said something. uh, and that was the list of

n o i think it created. since i did log in volumes behind closed doors where, you know, you had daughters of us from side or lips, john height with this. plus, it's going to be fantastic. it is by the dump, the strange love moments and how does the bottom, let's divide them up. but when you have those other ones, he did block that and say well, no, let's do some extra comments. amc it a m. so this provider will be closed. will be utilizing the guy to the go ahead and use the bomb and what people are that great that, that brings up the issue here. and this is, let me go back to stephen in belgrade. i mean, the mantra, coming out of nato capitals is they, um, uh, the russians wilson with the big they claim red lines, but they never uh, hold to them. well, number one, i would claim when we talk about red lines,

most of these fictional red lines come from the west. it's not what russian official them actually say themselves. but in this case here, they're saying that the, the russians won't escalate. will apparent. i always remind people that russia threatened to invade ukraine in 2022. and you know what stephen? they did. okay, so i don't understand why people say they're always bluffing. russians, no bluff. they act. steven, and i think that this so logical nato is nothing else about a fertile logic because what they are doing is they're literally pushing the world towards a cool leads lation. and then they're going to have with the smile of their face with a smirk, which is kind of amazing. uh, i think that's the site is definitely not bluffing bugs. russia still cannot come

temporary hand, the amount of evil that these people are capable of doing. uh, who would have thought that uh, you bring for that quote, with all the american equipment. would it be cost? uh, and that we would see again german times burning on that. those say deals where they burns. uh, some 70 plus years ago. so uh, these people are ready for to do everything and anything in order to stay in power as we see what's happening in the middle east. but who knows if he doesn't escalate, he will probably go to jail. he will have to base charges in his route because people are single war. most of people in every society are normal. they want their kids to go to school. they want to have surgery in their lives and they certainly don't want to die. and thermal nuclear war. and the problem is that we have a small click on the world, i wouldn't say even leaders of people in power, different sectors of power. who are interested in dolton list collision. i don't

know. what do they think they watch? uh, you know, the james bond movies and they have a little shame under the c or, and, or software. so they think they move flight in space or, or, or saved themselves biologically, somehow, or whatever they, uh, they think it is a delusion because uh what they are essentially doing that they are trying to, to remove a huge war. uh, and i think the, this is a critical time, as i said earlier between today and, and the american election so that it won't be able to. andre, what does you ukraine get by doubling down because you is, of those as a lensky, quote unquote, a peace plan. basically asked russia to a surrender. it's, it's the same thing. and why does this? i mean, is this a fiction for a western, a lease? and finance years, i mean, certainly people in ukraine can't believe it. go ahead. of people who probably

don't believe there's a lot of people, the president to the silverman, he's the relax, redeemed us under the lens. they want this one and the one i bet them back to the economy. there's nothing for them are under under this machine. so they're looking forward to trying to solve. but so i'm still running a lot of our use be pushed, but this technician idea that he can win. but here's the world news be in albany, so called awards in washington. but he's not to use just to put in the hands of the corporate tiers around the globe. move on to the washington. that is it. he likes it. he loved. yeah, i said an interview on say was the greatest role of his life. be kind of let the mask slip because he doesn't enjoy being this, but i don't know if he's going to be able to get out of this alive here. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to run it with short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on ukraine. stay with the

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you the silver soft in there by the light. so welcome back to across stock where all things are considered. i'm peter was about to mind you were discussing. you create the plans. go to greg. i mean, it's really interesting. my boy, it's uh, yeah, uh, johnson came out with an article on the spectator titled that it's time to let ukraine join nato. and then in the, in the, i think the 1st paragraph or so we, uh, we need to, uh, to get you crate into nato. now what i mean now, okay, i mean,

this is the biggest food on the international stage, and i'll tell you what's a very competitive stage these days. what is motivating him? we even have the head of the outgoing head, stilton burger, nato even admit that this complex came about because of nato expansion. he admitted it's all public part of the public record. and, and, and the russians have made it clear that this is a, they said in this them before and if them bowl and they keep saying today that is a prerequisite to wrap this thing up here. but boris johnson continues to do it. i mean, is he an ideological not case or is he just making a lot of money off of this? go ahead. was not all the what? it's a case of the employee. the guy is the uh, showing side talk minutes of me challenged inside them was career options, place and probably knows that a lot of a slow end of this particular retrospect. what do you use trying to do it is

frustrating for the self. the decision like, isn't washington dc to carry enough body of, of, for read career, a forest johnson to continue being a boss on the globe and stage? i mean, but this is purely a be awesome, but he's prepared to prostitute themselves to one because in order to do that, you know, stephen, the problem that we face right now is that i believe and move, you know that the, the, the real history of this will be written one day, is that a blinking newland sullivan? they, they thought the same, the threats of a conflict, they thought the sanctions would work. they thought the international isolation would work. they never really thought that a conflict would happen and they were caught flat footed. and that's the reason why they've never had a plan. b stephen. i hope so. that's kind of with the presumption that they are rational, real point explain additions, who just wants to victory,

upset not to destroy their own countries in the process. so why see more when you have a dispatch in boynton? johnson is the last case. similar as those are then i would, i would call the human floss there like the joke, or sometimes i think that the volume was the, was always preparing us for the events to come. remember all the catastrophic movies with the washington in your being destroyed and all of them being failed before 911. so i'm now when i look back in 2019 and the movie joke or i think book johnson i think of is the last key. i think of people who did not get enough credit because they were bullied. oh god. oh, god knows what kind of frustration they had. and now they are disrupting the planet with a smile on their face. and the, this is, this is what i'm really afraid of. it's not on rationality, i thought even dr. strange along kind of logic. it is the logic all of your email

because the, that is what i see. i always, i'm trying to find some kind of a, a, a rational thinking. why are they saying so, but this is more than a blog because as you just mentioned previously, they know for a fact that russia is not the last thing at the end of the day. so why are they promoting? why are they provoking ross at the response to iraq? that's, that will explode inside of russia. it is, it is what's the johnson he's advocating for? it is one of the last key is advocating for benefit. but as of the last, you know, that important. what is important is this, the, the dark elite behind stand behind a chance of that behind these people who are, uh, i don't know what they're they trying to do, but this is going beyond the real point thing. this is going beyond geo politics. yeah. and beat it and because it's at the end of the day it's it,

everyone security is threatened everyone by doing this here. you know, on 31 of the things that i've talked about during this. and i've been watching this situation since 2014, that's the beginning of this conflict here, that most western audiences are never exposed to. but i, you know, i've always been, you know, bewildered how you would get this elite and in care of, supported by the wes willingly. you know, people say ukraine is a victim and i always say, well, no, it's a volunteer. they volunteered for this mission. this is an inexplicable to me and considering the results today. i mean it's, it's so bewildering, but to add to it all right. you have, you're going along with it to look at all of the elections across the board. i mean, schultz was, you know, he's happy that his party gun or half a point higher than a then is the alternative for germany. i mean, think about that 2 or 3 years ago. would you think that would be an election

outcome in are many oh, through europe. i mean, what is going on here very much like what stephen was saying here. i just don't understand why people signed up to this because it's always to their detriment. what is ukraine gotten out of this? what is your gotten out of this? we know a lot of arms made makers made a lot of money from this. ok, fine. but everybody else? i'm today. they leaks with the when do these the, so we've got out of this is their bank accounts still more they have a possible would it be good to where i'd state to turn to look up to the owners of masters in washington? that's why i didn't get paid for it didn't boost parish. after all this, the i'm just looking for the source on the line. she gets a good printer. she. she comes over and sits an important records on to somebody in the records of authentic chickens. the same thing with the so called you previously, i was there, i backed out of the 6 of 16, i left the gun position. so now i will not be part of a student. i just did my function of bloodshed. and i saw how or shameful i was in

his office. i was seen all these process. there's always going to purchase, making to sell to that americans. and that's where is the door the assembly the week after. so all that's what it was, they were selling it all directly. ukraine was the, the lead to be praying were starting their functions off directly to the west and they were looking for the door. so whatever channel the choice that is, the biggest problem is they're thinking you're really thinking about their people. they think about themselves. that is the biggest situation here. and the same thing with the so called a lead to washington. they have the email and then they had a practice do this, then if i had to start rush it from with them. brands do slab, what do you do to reagan, the american unified? so i do the sort of rushing for the parks, taking a part they use all the resources of a rush, that's what they were planning was and they started going to happen in the 1st 3 months of this taxes. warranty usually pretty mad, but it didn't happen. well, why should stay the only place? government rushes stronger than ever. the whole range is back. camp, rushing around america, asia,

behind bridges growing. and this was the result of didn't expect them. that's what they're going to do. these are karma, the loss, but the people are stuck from that is the biggest situation. people in europe are suffering. the prices are starting rockery. volkswagen isn't even jeremy mercedes leaving germany. great is total destroyed, and is going to be costing over $500000000000.00 to just to rebuild it. the west is not going remotely. i think that's the biggest question. what's, what is that, what is the resources and leave you find what we may find out? i mean, i suppose, uh, by the time this program here is we may know more details, but i mean they're, they're banding about a trillion don't got another trillion dollars. it will take it in small bills. thank you very much. i mean, this is extraordinary here. you know, great there's, you know, i actually, you know, before all of this happened in 2014 to the present. i used to go to ukraine a lot. and i really love ukraine, and i really enjoyed visiting kevin and meeting with ukrainian people. and i

actually care a lot about the country to this day. and the only way you creighton is going to survive. europe is going to survive and the world is going to survive. and we go back to the helsinki idea of security indivisibility of security. that's the only way out. okay, and that is ensures that ukraine, at least in some form, will survive the past that the zalinski crowd is going down. a sure is that ukraine may face destruction, complete destruction. go ahead, greg. and sweep to, to, you know, a bunch of due to common sense. this is the problem. i mean, most of these people love, at least in china, is and heavy, stilts above woods and just look at them. ok, let's existence. i mean, the moment that zelinski agreed to go, each of what i've been ukraine's independence was lovely last meeting. so when he, when he was to go, i gave him your take on the boss, which is why the,

the always so he observe is live do clients, independence was all about. and i mean, but i think the issue now is a bit by the base like literally the existence as awesome. paul live rates late and you did all these people talking about like the, the dose of the conference a not in 45. and that, you know, i rush, it was on the lease and that was going to divide up, rush or off to it. say, you don't live in reality. i mean, i think one of the things which is going to tell is as a lives he has done the, i suppose, the right the front find that in the, the public can do. busy he believes that he is a subject a not object of these games. and i mean his big bonding is getting

a little bit too high for the concert or some of these people. so, i mean, the volume of will be when you're trying and zalinski and the rest of the drugs. this is what the us us with the f goes to i, i, i, this is what i taught when this was all beginning. i told a guy out of a good friend of mine, she has family and your credit is like, but you know that they're not fearful because america is on our side and they said they will dump you when it's appropriate when you're no longer are necessary. and it's happening right now statement, i think, what are the last minute here? because even i think the bite and monthly administration wants to give a gift to a potential trump administration. and that is this failed ukraine project. they just want to drop it in their lap and they'll say, see trump the last few cray go ahead stephen. exactly. maybe that's the that was the reason why by then i was very trump has uh was on the more serious most my

question is what comes next? because i think that is the last piece already a person of the box. he just got so his award and the don't bout strong, his crumbling what i'm thinking of is these a statement of an available said dismal go boys next to what does that supposed to mean? and it's very indicative of that. also presidents abilities on the cycle side of the back on barrows, would mark the beginning more homework 3. so maybe these people are already, i'm talking about, of course, major people are already thinking about what comes next. well, steven, steven, i'm sure all of you and our viewers saw that last interview with victoria, new and in that smirk on her face. they've got plans. they still got big plans. we're gonna have to leave it there gentlemen. i want to thank my guest in belgrade . basil and in sweden, of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our d. c. a next time. remember, prospect rules the

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