the, the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross software. all things are considered on peter lavelle. war has come again to 11 on israel's genocidal assault on gaza. has now spread to the north. in both cases, the by the administration has done nothing constructive to reduce and avoid conflict in the region. the us is the greatest in nature or of israel's forever wars, the cross talking israel's forever wars. i'm joined by my guest,

ramsey by rude in seattle. he is a palestinian author and journalist in brussels. we have the life of magnetic t is a veteran, war correspondent and political analyst and a baby we cross though we risk. he is a security and political affairs analyst, or a gentleman cross stock rules and effect. that means you can jump any time you want . and i always appreciate. let's go to our guest 1st in brussels. when i woke up this morning and of course i much more in that same time frame is a west asia were living on israel and palestine is there was talk of a cease fire, a 21 days east fire, a 7 day piece of ceasefire. and all through the day and is i'm going to the studio to record this program with you gentlemen. that is off the board. this seems to be a pattern here. you know, we're on the one yard line for over a ceasefire and gaza. i mean, we all just being played here, i mean the old before, but by didn't seem to fall forward again in his waning days of his presidency. go

ahead and process as we've seen that before. so there's just a god. when does it in by then several times a brood of the rabbit off he's had saying there is a ceasefire and we are very close to it. and then after that he said we don't accept an operation in rough. uh and then that then yeah, i was playing on his far right. my list as being the motor. it just taking any excuse for rejecting any proposal that he himself offered to president by then who came up and said this is an admin is really proposing and then from us accepted that the same game is happening now with that been done. but it is much more dangerous. there's something in common here that both the americans and these. busy really wants to eliminate from us and by law, not they den happens indemnities without the us improve and therefore again,

we see the same game would be thing that said that with the attempt to the vice principal from what's happening in palestine. because his beloved being didn't satisfy for a ceasefire in god's old nothing has and again there's a game now by from the u. k. can you guys saying what we are coming close to a cease fire? accept and then stop between you and is right. and this is how they divide because one of the away from guys uh, this is not going to happen. oh ramsey. what, what is the strategy here? um obviously uh a starting october, 8th of last year has will uh, made it very clear that it was in a state of conflict with israel to success. we had the cross border showing almost every single day since then. and now is really was a ramped up the, the, the stakes here, is it because they're of their defeat. and i say that in a very kind of ironic way defeats in golf. so because,

because it has been destroyed and it's people in misery. but is this part of the plan to, to shift attention away from the genocide is still gone going every single day. and god, so go ahead, ramsey the civically. i mean i, i agree with the assessment also owns of the guess from brussels. the idea that nothing in the middle east happens without the american approval. in fact, they would go even a step further and see the american foreign policy regarding garza and know regarding living on is take uniform and is what a textbook. this is essentially and is what the american war, both sides have a lot to lose. it is very lose its so called the terrans. it's a game changer in the, in the middle east, the geo political consequences of the war. if these ones do not go in israel's favors favor and i don't think they are,

and i do think the will is going to be earth shattering as far as american foreign policy in the region. and yes is, will, is the be to in gaza and it's defeated the american, the americans own assessments of what is defeat and victory out. wouldn't these kind of great of the work there is always is unable to achieve any of its objective, strategical or otherwise in gaza is what else is defeated and now for the 1st time, perhaps in the history of the so called or is what you to complete we are discovering the limits of what the powerful is, what you, the minutes, or we can, it can do in terms of political outcomes in terms of security outcomes in terms of ju, put it together outcomes. so they aren't going to leave it on the hoping that they would, could use different results and by extension. but the pressure on how much in goes,

in other words, it's a war against him, but you don't or again slipping on. but rather the target audience of that war is garza. and my extension was, it'd be by deals and some line humans that you walk isn't the whole beach it. yeah, i'll a, they, a, they is rarely have proven time. and again that they can terrorize the civilian population. we saw that with the, the pagers and the walkie talkies. it was quite sickening to see the backers of israel, so joyful and gleeful about attacks on civilians. children were killed during that . all we can israel to feet has full of to the top, the surface of the law. it kind of sick, serious damage. i guess because of a lot of these the, the time the, the comment period. now i don't think that the principal has would be struggling just like would say no to a page of information which we just refer to as something which the world has never see. these targeted assassinations, the story advanced is rated technology, so cost, blah,

blah. suffice have already big charge of that being said look at the declared items . oh no problem. yeah, the spoken about the site per ton of the stuff is good at all. how does that shape that particular goal for hospitalization? the ability is in or has been shot. okay, so the over the past few days, in fact, it's a gradually expanding it's fire, power, and strength, and it gets fire power. and i think that's i deliberate strategy being employed, wife has the law and i think one very important message that we can get from because of the laws approach. and the latest days of escalation is the principal of what a play button up on, you know, who's going to be one played, mike israel's rules of will. it will part of why it's fine. we'll just, which is why your see, you know, these very carefully calibrated responses, because nothing was fun by beaching to drag because blog into a somewhat rush to get logical reaction possible more i think it's smaller than

folding into this trap. so you're going to see more and more of the 3 across management of that goal. and he wanted to swap the way to go to goals and to keep the arts focused on israel as being the, a logical, irrational stuff relevant for the law. it's got larger in brussels here we have this phrase uh it takes everything about this complet coming from the united states . and israel is so uh orwellian. they have to deescalate, through escalation, can explain to me what that means because i have no idea. go ahead, but they not, this get a thing really. they talked about the patient. yeah. but they really off fox, on the skid 18 by supplying these really 50000 tons of explosive and munitions age. right. is capable of waging war on lab and on and on. guys, because they didn't mean that then yeah, i was told by his chief of staff or tv and he's defense minister. you cannot that

they have no more objective to fulfilling cause that because they fail to free the captives and to defeat from us. but it is about the survival of submitting. yeah. and because the philistines are demonized, and because there is no value for you. and as i in that of the word, because today is a very easy way for these really to cross all the lines and find it all into nice and those then it is enjoying and accountability to do anything talking about us, get ation or escalation and the just trying to justify these really crime against humanity was crime and it them of general side. what's happening in the me these 2 days is a free hand to the body of them into these been i mean that and you know who wants to survive at the expense of the life of the philistines and the needs and wants to

remain in bala. because the threatened by his father right wing and members of the cabinet that if he stops the war in gaza overlapping and then they will leave him and, and the coalition and the survival of one man at the end of october 2026 is costing tens of thousands of slides and the american scale back monday, a lot also, but we all should be keep in mind that even when nothing. yeah, who goes design, this project continues unabated with american support unfortunately of read. so you know, i come across a phrase recently that i think is very interesting to kind of characterize what's going on in that part of the world. all the kind of mentioned it. but this is a moral attrition and who can win that battle of moral attrition? has a mouse is still standing, has the law is still standing, the violence isn't going to destroy them. but what they have is they have

a moral code and they have a, a sense of being in fighting this kind of violence and, and, and, and wrong terrorism. go ahead in seattle. i love that are more attrition indeed. i mean, the more latrice has been taking place in the middle east for a long time. this is what uh, richard polk, of the former united nation. yeah. report the impact as done before. so as the legitimacy were, and he made an argument once in an interview i conducted with him in which he argued that no one in the history of national liberation movements has ever won the village of the mess. you war, that ultimate, the lost, the war. you went religion to miss you, will you when the war independence, the news and know that have been use all we need the legitimacy war and this is frightening for his will and i'm going to go again. you know what eli had said was very interesting. but i feel like this constant attachment between them, you know,

when his job and his coalition it's, it's a little bit kind of up it's, it's politically new ones correctly. but thank you look, when he still remembers what has happened. 203040 years from now. they're not going to to get back nothing. yeah. his job, they're going to talk about design this project that has, which are on a country that feels that it's losing its ability to keep its neighbors ensure and an imperialist american power that is in a state of complete attic. that is what's moved to be remembered, and how mazda inches below, we might see the mixing with the names and look for jennifer ok, whether they don't hold that the i have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on israel's forever war. stay with our team,

the . the, the welcome act. across stock were all things are considered. i'm peter level true menu we're discussing israel's forever was the let's go to our guest and david alley. one of the things that i've been observing over the last year or so is reflecting upon how israel has been able to divide and conquer its neighbors to through sectarianism, supporting various terrace groups. i mean it's, it's got its hands and, and every single part as it were. but ever since october of last year, there seems to be a remarkable unification of various different groups that made different different a different on many points. but there is a color let, there are coalescing around the,

the absolute need of there's power in numbers. and i think that's something that the united states is beginning to fear because, you know, you can buy off this kingdom. you can pay off that president and, and if you, i think, you know, live listening to what king most saying had to say, am jordan at the united nations. now, there was a very power for words. i'm not sure how powerful he is, but those are words for many people to appreciate. go head alley. well, actually this links up with what i was going to comment on regarding the design of the project, which was raised by my colleagues. it's true, the owner is ready to governments of his honest project, but i think the issue have to focus on with the, not the whole government. and when these extreme right wing things like suffrage and bring that up. there's that they actually upset to have the deal reset back for american strategy, and they have, uh, making israel of keywords of building to, to us and also make use around laws like a variety of sites. so disliked being government, you know, yes,

it does have all these very common stock data buttons on this project. but this one is sort of blog. so racist as of experience make is really much as this, you know, provide your site gets also struck big again. this is very important, give subtracting, american strategy, american strategy in the region, the bottom ministration, particularly the democrats is right. obviously, you know, it's about half a month's worth while they told i am altered palestinian authority normally normalization of times between saudi arabia and israel. that is, the democratic party is a part of the one thing is ready for writers doing is actually dealing simply a global studies all american project. but finding it appears to be stuck in the same circle that's doing damage itself to these american interests. so you know, they're in so that takes it back to your question. i think that because of this government because it sort of racist because of the remarks which we have for

people like to have to go on to speak about here to manhattan means that is, i think the effect of uniting the harp street, you know, i think for example, some of these and she also yeah, around the same cause about this is what i think what is taking place right now. people, those countries are, might have their own differences. went from us like jordan, like the way he because of the outcry from the public, they want to be forced, at least in time, to change their policy. and if you remember from i've been some evidence recently he said, he said they wouldn't be in the moment as i was long as is as long as this current situation continues. so this tells you how much damage this is where the government is doing. so you're wishing chris i'm to israel itself either takes me back to what ones or colleagues said, and you know, focusing well, putting a priority on his own personal ambitions instead of his friends earning 1st. one of the also the things that i think there's a, the way the conflict in the region is unfolding is that, um,

nothing yahoo and it needs far right. wingers. this is all an opportunity for them that this isn't for to you have a president of the united states. it is checked out. you have a us secretary of state that seems full way on board with the israeli government. it's an agenda. anthony, blinking is a, is a shameful character and it's nothing yahoo sees, you know, this is the opportunity to take care of all problems at the same time. and that makes it very big. and this is the next essential view, because, you know, the united states has shown itself to be shamelessly weak. so this is what makes this so dangerous. go ahead and brussels. it was before the jump on me and nobody's . nobody's jumped the but yeah, yeah, the actually the 4th is 4 of the philistines, because these rubies extremely honest with they're not the 77, very good validate who's writing. we don't want a need,

but his team. yeah. right. a button is right. the presence of any but his team in is it dangerous to all i'm not seeing the security not do you not if you treat. busy the 11995, also to 1999. nothing happened. they should have been given a state and yet the americans with that and did nothing for that. so what's happening today is the only subjective will face, right? to kick out old if it is damien from 1st time, they don't want witness for the history that they have done against it for this, even the domestic because they have committed against them. they want to expand. this is why further than the trump said, all the countries. so timing, he wants to involved. yes, he's taking the feeling of these really is one. the great to is read. so it is really don't want any one to let them know they don't even the senior slaves big

because of the other ones. that's why them them out. and the americans also thinking that they have never ceased to support these right in, or it's just, you know, at rams. it's apparent this week at the united nations general assembly, where the united states stands in global public opinion. but it doesn't seem to have an impact on them. you know, a pack is powerful, money talks, what is it? bob dylan said, money doesn't talk it screens. okay. but they stand alone on the global stage. it's really very shameful and it will have long term consequences. the legitimacy of the west in the eyes of the world is just about 0. now go ahead. i don't even know if it is much legitimate thing that's for the west, especially the mounted states. after that goes into the site, i don't think if this is just the most, it will ever be. it is stored under any circumstance. again, i do believe that the american is what 80 a policies for

a lot of these are essentially the same. the proof to that is that when from came and you basically it's of the will of the genie brandon is what you do wishes in the west bank. and so you have to go that highs the annexation and so forth. the by did administration did not to reverse a single thing, right. and they continued to push the normalization between the r ups as well, completely surpassing the pedestal news and not the reversing any of the steps taken by that's on the administration. this proves that democrats, republicans essentially the same if the new government is indeed creating any kind of disturbance in american foreign policy. it's just because they are refusing to play the game by the old rules, do whatever you want, but just pay lip service to piece. so we can move on and just pretend that there's a piece process and i am the one who's managing this piece process in the region. nothing, you know, and it is built or so arrogant that they wouldn't even grant and they're like, well, i mean,

donald trump even said on the campaign trail he wants to make is real great. again, i don't know what that has to do with a mag agenda. i'm just completely lost here. yeah. only one of the things that we've seen here, and i, i'm hoping against hope, is that we see what was being, what's being done in gaza. be getting to start in the west bank. is that something that you worry, that is real, wants to do to lebanon? i definitely want to just come into my company just sort of a difference between democrats and republicans. i think that generally speaking, yes, you do have this top right support because well, there is one fundamental difference not one of, especially when you look at the trunk. but the democrats should focus on having my policy and moderate pop, know a policy and, and i thought that you did recognize the role for that top republicans, especially the trunk wing of the republican party. doesn't recognize at the top. if you're told join,

it's crunched on the p o. o office in washington was shot there. yep. so that's mean there was no consistency between the one from but that is probably one of the reasons why not the whole because the trunk to come into work with. because you don't believe that trump weren't even the solely raised the issue of a city and state not regarding what you're asked about the west bank. i think that is indeed a real danger. and i think that's where the ambitions of the far right lights are. the logically speaking the whole, according to the fundamentals designers fund, the you, the work site is where the focus is on. yeah, not on god, anywhere else. so i think we are bound to see more and more of these calculations, especially the war and go to the general escalation, continues. elijah, is widely assumed, you know, because you hear things coming out of the israeli government and preparing for a ground war in lab. and on there's may be a ceasefire. no, there won't be a ceasefire. we, this is this game, they always sending out these mix messages. but how assured are you that if the

push comes, this of the u. s. will involve itself heavily into conflict in lebanon, and go ahead there is no conflict that is right. and america on the office at the beginning of the war. on the 7th of october, the americans send 2000 of the debt the whole ser, they've since 5 very it's be in general is a little fat. they are the 3 days of sent us central command. they exchange with our nato and the united states. the information intelligence and or level of cooperation between all of them. therefore, we talk to us, there is no b a, these varies are doing exactly what the americans would like to head that every single assassination of a has a lot to man. and they say wanted by the americans,

5000000 rewards on his head. so that is to justify that what we are doing is we are doing the american jobs. in fact, they not doing the american job, they do it together. and the glock invasion is not the problem with that. so these are really only they going to break the deeds on devin, any gentlemen or in the big valley, because this is not an easy task to do that would be confronted with forces that have never been engaged in this will since the 7th of october, because the special falls is often not a correction, and this will only be solved units have been working again to these treaties and entirely a bit of the nissan units. we haven't seen the specialized one, we've seen only one ballistic. besides, we haven't seen more than that. so the war has not begun from high school by side, and i think these relays, they are very capable, but they, but they would do

a favor for the hurtful lives. so they can become an easy part of it. instead of find things physical, the only a from the way and give it to you that way they have something where we're rapidly running out of time. but i think that, you know, we, our audience should be aware technology doesn't always win your wars, having more legitimacy put you in a much, much stronger place. and i think we all know who has the moral legitimacy in this case here. gentlemen, that's all the time we have on a think, my guess in seattle process, russel's and in bay roads. and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time. remember, across the, the the, in the late 18 ninety's french soldiers led by general paul,

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people became the victims of america in aggressors. the i'm action or can see welcome back to going underground broadcasting around the world from the u. a. today, the foreign minister of the superpower of this century, china, when he and his friend russian foreign minister, so elaborate of joins on voice from cuba. inside of the arabia the shed, you'll view in general assembly in new york. it is admits nato and oil allowed to war on palestine on lebanon, and the nature was on russia through ukraine in china through ty, one comes as nato countries institute of immortal william cubs when freedom of