one battle after another, but his murdering resistance leaders, a good strategy. speaking of tactics and strategy of it, and so in skis, us trip, go to discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel in budapest. he's a pod cast or the gamble which be found on youtube and locals. and in this symbol we have cutting through a lot of these a story and, and political commentator. right, gentlemen, crosstalk rules and effect, that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate it, but let's kick it off with georgia in budapest. i, georgia. i've known you a long time. this is probably been one of the momentous last few, the few days of our political life time. um the, the, the murder of his blogs leader, widely regarded as a major power broker and not only in lebanon, but throughout the, the greater middle east and israel's winning some battles here. um, what does this port pin george for you? right? pizza? israel is waiting. um, so major battles sir, and it is stalling. um,

what has happened during the past a week? the 10 days? um, because this was a series of israel's decapitation attacks against the his ball a lead is no one was really expecting this. so it started with a page or a text and then went to the walkie talkie tags, then it was the typo in the document. i've made it easier for you. and then we had the, this, this of the huge attacks in level the, culminating in the assassination of those rob. and it looks now as if the entirety of his bowl, his leadership has been eliminated. now, the light, but doesn't mean as buffalo has gone, at least as far as we can tell, but not, but this is a major blow that to israel has inflicted on has bullet and um, warehouses and think, well, what's next? i think, and the innovation of lebanon is almost up, and really,

on the cards they will invade. and i think take the, you know, the take the southern part of lebanon, you know, maybe, you know, move up to the latania river. and just simply have this as a buffers that on that the middle tries about the zone and the which will be on the israeli occupation. i think that's over certainly what happened, but there is a real warning and that's on the yahoo issue this morning to iran to say, hey, we did this of as well that we can do this to you. and i think that's good. well happen. i mean, there's like with well star targeting major if it goes in iran in the hope of provoking any rain in a response knowing and this is because of all the nonsense coming from washington, knowing that in america would come in on israel side if it wrong a tax, israel in retaliation. so that's really this right. it shouldn't be, you know, we don't even know what would happen in iran, in such accomplishments as uh, circumstances. but it does look like, i mean you,

you were saying this be just some time ago the um, history of the seasons. this opportunity as a really big john's the sold out a lot of problems. bullied ones, cutting the footage, coming out of the last few days from 11. i'm particularly be road touch. it just defines imagination. i mean, it's hard to believe it's even real, but this is what's been going on in gaza is do you think that this is really offensive in lebanon is going to mirror what bins been happening and gaza. mean, because it looks absolute because, you know, we hear that a mouse has to be destroyed, but what we've seen is a lot of civilian casualties. now we're seeing how has blog has the go. we're seeing a lot of civilian casualties. are they going to mirror, go ahead. i think they are perfectly capable of that morally capable, only get us health. so as i said, more really capable,

and unfortunately it's, i'm really tempted, capable of that, as you say, because of us had and look before they did this to gaza, this genocide, right? they told us they will do it. and they have told us that at about 11 on several times, we have 1st announcement of a months quite a bit to the from leading is a the politicians that look out because it was the same thing to level. so it's definitely a possibility unfortunately. and unfortunately, be also know from the experience of causes and the palestinians in general, that the west will not stop them. they're not restrained to them. and to help them do it if they choose to do it. but i think that the strikes that has done great damage to his belt, like we've left towards, has been at least equally aimed at civilian casualties and disruption. i think the sample of tackle is to see and play onto this fight. you decide because deborah

list as they are, they're thinking these things. so, and i think one thing they wanted is code 8 and a ton of variables refugees inside live and onto the, stabilize the country for other. and they also want an, a ton of very for very fuji's inside the capital city, because the capital city has made big cities has brought the different quarters. i'm, as you know, that one on is a confession of the aspect. it complicates society and the attacking poor and what she i for to is in this house now. and they're making these people's displays into the center and other places in by route. so i think social disruption, sewing dissension, and tends to be in level as a whole and defend baby boot as a whole is also part of this. this family is very strategy. i don't want to take too much time. i would like to add one thing. i entirely agree that they have unfortunately been very successful again in id that but you know that and to colonial resistance targets tend to take a very long time. and the people who say,

well, as well as that, but hold to mean die before the vietnam war ended. you know, a lot of people forget that. and he was lot in the necessary to bring it to close. sounds with none of the proxy is gone. and the last with them, these and this house with them using to and of resistance one the war into yet. right. so this is, it's to, i need to tell, but it's very clear of the damage of absolutely, but georgia, me, the, it, well, i get a, has a message you back and forth yesterday talking about tactics and strategy. and that's really what i want to talk about here. and you know, yes, it was a nice uh, successful wins taking out leaders and whatnot. but i mean, it's the calculus that i think we're seeing unfold is that more is the a, it is it's, it's not looking for a specific outcome. it is just to continue to have a conflict. i mean, it's, it's very interesting looking at god. so it means that india who has failed and

gaza, well, you know, how much spill they are, but god is destroyed. it's a complete shambles. ok, so it doesn't really matter of a mouse is bill right there. this is the, the same game plan with american health. no, no red lines apply here, but that's the, but doesn't create political facts on the ground that or what can i have substance for the long term. it's, we're in the always living in the present of more. george? yes, i agree. i, i should just say that the, the, his ball a leader that the israel killed um a few days ago was a brand new marquee. oh i, i got me confused with the name, but to me you're absolutely right pizza, that, that what israel is doing is reorganizing the middle east and, and of course yes, we can say that as well because ultimately crushed the resistance. but they can

give a damn good try because ultimately, um, you know, that the least for us is of we have to assume we're really powerful. another now build up an alternative. um, the set of structures in the middle east arrival israel, which namely it has ball. uh, you're on the various of the iranian boxes, you know, they've been hit very, very hot. and, and keep in mind it's been not just what happened to his butler, but you rise lack of action for on. so for a long time, the, i mean the, the, around the strange press save it to, in the face of repeat to, is really the side of 2 hands. actions were coordinated with the united states and other people to actually go with it. exactly. and so, and then of course we did a, we were expecting some kind of a rainy and response to the killing of the, um, the, the, so it'd be a little bit either of how most of that does that didn't come. and then surprisingly, the other day we had the new uranium prize and then talking about returning to the

joint comprehensive plan of action. is there somehow you can, he can make nice with the west. so, you know, we're, we're getting the situation where, where is the resistance and where and, and here we have israel absolutely ruthless. you know, they make clear that they are ready to do anything killers. many people destroy as much as they need, so to ensure their safety, they've shown that they have no respect at all for um, anybody else's opinions. and so really well, what can stop as well? i mean there's no, there's no power in the region. they can stop as ro, um there's no great power that can intervene to do something about israel. so, you know, yes with the resistance will continue. but ultimately what is the point of the resistance that you're saying, oh, god has gone this, right? there's no mo, data to, um, you know, the, maybe some surviving remnants of hormones, but ultimately they do, you know, they've destroyed garza and, and again,

the link below that could easily move on to the west bank. but, and i think then, you know, they're going to move on a level and then they're just to be occupied at bottom level. and then that's it. so. so if you have a discharge, you're absolutely right. but tell you, because i give this real security, you know, absolutely not. it's not in the long run. look, the comment is where aden model of achieving security. but be kenneth every one around us and occupy everything they would have to complete not just commit complete the multiple janice top, it's to get security. that's fine. the way that finding it now, and then of course, even though they won't be able to do, they would probably like to do that, but they won't be able to do that over time. look again, i totally agree about the brand, which is why it has the excess of resistance right now. pinged in a very bad place because on one side they have to live at these ladies have to live at these do mediating attacks on that. i'm not only to visit the devastating but to

mean a thing. and on the other side, they have puts them in a place where they have to respond or lose credibility, right? you can see the imprint of says extreme, our discussion, which is very natural, it via already saying, oh my god, look. so we kind of even strike back. but harvey, right. and this would happen to a lot of people, and i think this is what out of the integrated calculus as was and unfortunately to an extent it is bound to work. but i would add one thing, look, vive would ask, what is the point of resistance if they come strike back i will give to answers 1st or for the part of resistance sometimes is to survive until you have better circumstances. spite. what's the point of progress as thompson, fonts in 1943, it's the way to come to the landing and 1944 when you can read these twice. right? i know it's a, it's a pain to paul at the analogy, but still, the other thing is, is why it is such a brought to country, is that for a lot of people, it affects and who survives the question is not all across to,

it's not what's the point, the question is of it until you see it's a event. you have to consider that every time is what it does to is they bu crate. a lot of people, when you tell them your resistance is futile, the answer would be you no, but i don't care anymore as long as i get the kids, some of them. right. and that is or is also constantly setting in motion. so it's not that simple in the end, i think deal. i mean it also there in the moment we're in the present and, and we're looking at the bed again and say, colonial resistance movements. last a very long time. i think the crusaders were in the live on for about a 123 years, and then they were. all right gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some really stay with our to the who when i was

just going to see power and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground. the of the 1934 prance invaded algeria and straight away the french started inhabiting it to strengthen their position. the column is known as the new wars did the best land from day one. the local population was put into an unequal position and was briefly

exploited. this caused them as discontent. the people of l g area began their long term fight for independence. in 1954, the banner of freedom was raised by the national liberation front. a guerrilla war against the occupants broke out. the french tried to suppress, to rebuild you and using cruel measures. whole villages were wiped out, acts of georgia and executions of civil people, including pregnant women, children, and old people took place. more than 2000000 people were born into concentration camps. however, these punitive measures didn't help. cl, jerry and patriot managed to induce france the start seize negotiations. in 1962 heavy and the guards were assigned 40 l. jerry on the bass boards independence. but this was achieved at a colossal price, algeria by rights is considered to be

a country of martyrs. according to the calculations of historians, the french colonists are responsible for the depths of one and a half 1000000 algerians. the welcome back to perhaps that gold fines'. i'm peter will down tremendously discussing some realm is a georgia want to finish up our discussion on the beds, playing out and loving on less ro the was a very well known character. even his enemies admitted he was charismatic. and he was not just a, a religious fanatic for a chair or wrist. he was a lot of things to a lot of people and he will be remembered for a very long time. one of the things that when you have an event like this, of such a historical figure, one, the air can ask themselves, is he the person that comes after him is going to be more determined. they take

more risks, meaning was he the mot permit that they're going to mess one day? george? well that's a very good question for you. then we really don't know, it goes, no it, it has the good have situations in which the new leader will go off on the very different attack. i mean, remember we assumed when um, the nasa died that his, his successor would follow a very similar policy to nice as waiting to if i saw that, you know, did a 180 degree tunnel that have completely abandoned us as well. so we don't know what would happen a bit, and those are all obviously it was a very powerful and very dominant figure within uh as well. and um, and what was clearly a very realistic person. i mean, this is no blow hot. nobody, you know, it wasn't just empty phone during a games design is so he didn't give a very realistic presentation of the situation and the weak. this isn't

vulnerabilities of israel. so them of opposition and the fact and, you know, all of this time were, you know, we had been expecting something more from those both of them with what he was given . but evidently he thought that, well, we really don't want to provoke a huge will with israel and i think, and those are all, i think it was, it was right. this is bottom where it wasn't in any um, you know, fit condition to fights against them as well. but you'll have others who have to ask where the village of speculative, okay? but whether these religious leaders, whether those are all on whether the religious leaders in a run have a sufficient grasp of the realities of the world. you know that maybe just that to absolve in the field and see how legit, the realized school there obligates, you know, the people that are up against absolutely ruthless, that they're ready to do anything. and then, and although, but he's really in the united states and, you know, maybe i somehow would, you know, let's go to spend the last few years preparing in a much more. um,

like the vigorous and strong minded way to take all these rel, maybe a secular leader might have been most successful. i think the same question to you because the big the up to 60, to 80000 is really residents of northern israel are still not back in their homes. but for all we know the most that has the laws are single, is still intact because they, you can accommodate the leadership, which apparently it looks like that's the case here. but they're in this structure is still there. so it's still a potent force. so that's why i'm asking about who comes next that he yeah, a place that i want, do you have thoughts on sounds with most of the, you know, being published, but in principle, right? so the question that is also is, is there a, going to launch a ground invasion, right? because if it does launch a ground invasion to the styles of living on, as you mentioned at the beginning, the conditions for as follows. find change. and these things that will be

responding martha's paula strengths, the problem i think for any new leadership is said if they accept at this point and which might be in the ops, might be probably the slightest won't even exist in your, in that case. the coupling from because a gen, yeah, it would be seem as between causal finding the answer would be seen as such thing under conditions of being defeated type would be the message at this point and i think they knows that it as well. so one thing about leadership, a bit of clothes, it's absolutely true that they have suffered before risk strikes and, and most of it has been removed. but it's also true that they know that all these leaders have deputies. that doesn't mean they're all ready to take over all the same quality, not at all, but of course it is an organization sophisticated enough, so that if you will strike edits had, it doesn't immediately collapse 5 and it has the capacity to regenerate that to an extent i think that's important to keep in mind as plan. okay, and you actually,

um, i did mentioned in my introduction that we would comment on mr. zalinski is a trip to america. because the lot of waves probably waves that he really hadn't anticipated. and of course, calls that he was getting meddling and the american politics wouldn't be for the 1st time. you and i have chronicled this all the way back to 2016. i didn't lose k return home a victor or him was the bank wished i don't, i don't think it was i the really but there's the question that so that will, that would, that's got a reflection of a level to solve a fee, but it's got to yeah, it's all right, but he does come across as a kind of, as they go from a sit com, you know, something makes an appearance every few epis loads, you know, wearing is, um, it is tish up and, and times on either side, you know. and then, you know, use it, but everyone's already getting tired of him. and um, you know, he's got his few lines and, um, but everyone's already moving on to other things. but they, you know, they have,

they're all very, i mean, but ultimately he did um, clearly flagrantly be interfered in internal us politics, you know, with his trip to pennsylvania and, and hanging out with all these a democratic party, big wigs. and then the, you know, his interview with the new yorker in which he, um, said negative things, particularly about j. d vanderson the lesser as the end of the trunk. and then the meeting with chrome was very, very, very in consequential the trumpet as usual saying, oh yeah, yeah, you know, great guy, great guy. but he said, but i also have good relations with the boat and, and so you know, i'm going to get on the phone too. and, and, you know, try to sort this out and, and when zalinski amazes again, said come routine. well, i hope you have better relations with me than with boats and is there? well, it takes 2 to tango. so i, i don't think this was particularly successful for him. and because like i am from

what we know publicly, i don't know that the white house committed itself in any way to his victory plan. but not, but, but given this, the situation in washington, the given at least they, that are a commitment continue and commitment to ukraine. i don't think was a disaster either. yeah, it's interesting that, i mean, you know, i mean when you look at the totality of your answer, at the very end, you talked about the so called victory plan should have been at the top in the bottom. see, that's the point here. teddy. you know, from what wave it still hasn't been repealed. what the victory plan is, i'm everybody's talking about it. but it doesn't seem like to have anything to do with victory and doesn't seem like much of a plan. the problem is for this administration and very much so per zelinski is his political legitimacy is 0. he's only kept afloat by western support in western money in western arms. but um, this is a, uh, a strategy that,

um, is kind of still boring right now. we're in doubt. keep them more going. that's the strategy. any, you know, i think that's a good summary and as far as the victory plan was concerned, there's no such clam. i mean, i'm not totally sorry, very good to cranium blogger was, of course, the next i have selected, has talked about this, everything that he had about this mysterious plan amounts to him be here this, by the way, also in leaks from the american administration. it's another shopping or rather begging this, that's what this is. they've just written up stocks. they've gone to once again and this time to call it the victory of time. and of course, because the military situation flows amazing, gets worse and worse and worse, these plans on one, lots or 2. you love it. they, it really even line smells the germans in the winter. 194445, you know, making victory plans. it's, it's, it's getting ridiculous. but the other thing, of course, here is that, um, georgia. so really the man is from episode com. he is also a,

that's what he came from. he comes literally from carma do so right. and now he is jumping the shark. hundreds of thousands to pregnancy have died and then he's still on the same stupid routine that they taught him at the very beginning of this large scale of war. and you can think of anything that's fine, he has loan use for it. so i think that measure against what he needs it's, this was a defeat i taked or score and i think thoughts as objectively so to speak. right? that it's sort of modeled in between. but if you'll hold it up against what you would need to sort of say from over half of it is, it is clearly to feed because he would need so much. i mean, look item, if you could almost say that the landscape tragedy is said, ukraine is not, it is by the american support for ukraine. this really condition a and right and less than that. right, right. that's the american support for it is very s the american say is iron clad,

right? the ukraine has never the chief to status and then i have a tips of states enjoy, which again, you know, they, the problem is here. when you look at this project, it's a democratic party project from day one. okay. and we have the republicans and all of their, you know, clutching their pearls. how dare you be partners. i mean, if you hadn't noticed that i don't know what, what year to, you'll have to them when it comes to the politics here. but the problem is here is that there is no peace plan and you and i have been saying this from the very, very beginning. you shouldn't be talking about victory. don't be given up in the even defeat doesn't really kind of fit into the equation piece is what everybody needs. that piece is what everybody wants, but we can't get there. george, you know 6 except that the united states really doesn't one piece. i mean, the, the, and that's the true united states. so they go one piece for russia and that's for sure. right? that's it. these items every single want to keep it going. that the way they

keeping it going, which is, you know, they, the arms of manufacturers, elizabeth shining out the products of sending them the ukrainians are getting killed. well, you know, the no, and no one cares about that russian. but the most important thing is the russians are getting killed, you know, they keep getting on killing rushes. so it was basically, let's keep the will going for a little bit longer. that's why they never spell out any kind of a, a peace deal that they would accept, you know, i gave the nature was never spelled out anything a tool that's a realistic, that's any live in any way is attainable, probably because they feel that if they did then, you know, actually that would stimulate negotiations that say, well, okay, feel ready to accept this and we want that. then we can actually talk of some of the, the find something in the middle, but they don't do anything like that. instead, they make these absolutely unrealistic demands like complete withdrawal of a russian forces. nike, you knew crane with a 1991 boldest. and they were actually the surrender themselves to a, of

a war crimes tribunal. well, this is unacceptable and, and the need to lead us know it's only acceptable. so that's why they just look and keep the authoring list and keeping the wall going. in the hope that somehow ukraine can go on fighting a go never just die one party, but gentlemen, is it the subs? seeing so in ski, standing next to trump here? i just couldn't help but have the feeling that zelinski is terrified. not only for his country, because i don't think he cares much about his country, considering the carnage is worried about is mon physical safety level the the, the, they are. i want to thank my guess and assemble and in budapest and of course when i think our viewers for watching us here at our tc. and next time we member across stifles the

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