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the un security consuming the imaginations as a, as a grouping international being today is not to collective of the longer the advocates of the 2020 full. i don't pull that is absolutely logged out to the, to the outcome. so says that you wouldn't, must be too small. i'm one of the defenses. uh, the ones who go to the concert. it should be expanded and many more countries, which is oh, i should find that, but it can be expanded to insecurity confidence in guys included in there. i couldn't, i couldn't get a bunch of guys either added to germany or a group of 4 which are meeting together. and there are many of the also effect of america. it is that culture is going to happen. how soon are we able to get consensus? what is going to happen to lead to fall without the beast? why are they going to do away with a move that the members gets the sole phone text based in negotiations at the back
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of nations? i'm waiting on the gate of the us many videos at least it's kind of, i don't find or, you know, it's one thing to say that she'll get who should not for tall or but that has to be in your mind on what should be that a form much of the form this mexican something missing. and i don't even see the controls as one of the guys cuz of those, the people countries i me under represented by the ones either to see this, this question relies much vito for say to national company must take video from to a consensus. just what shouldn't be, especially big somebody for him. yeah, well are you in the district you still are going to be financially students like armor was bang. all need to be the one and the a that provide the representative. so, and it's all right, let me if i could,
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if i could pops up. so i think it has it to live on a brazil mozilla ones above and c as we are we are, we are aware, but 1st of all they on isn't any, isn't getting any closer. so it's a have a one and more to the point. do they will make a difference as well. first of all, thank you for having me. again, it's always a pleasure to be speaking here. and if i may just follow up on what my previous colleague was just saying, the front of the security council has been a traditional wedge of brazil. and it's diplomacy for decades. ever since the foundation of the united nations, basically they and the reform as the presenter, just making this just as necessary in terms of as a my colleague was saying how it is going to be done. right?
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because the question is not the anymore. a matter of whether or not there exists any consensus because there is a way we saw even before the general assembly, the current general assembly, the permanent representative of the united states and the security council actually defending an expansion of a seats to africa specifically. so we have that, but we don't have simply the political billing this. i believe it is just as simple as city on the table and deciding that right, if we just saw it in very simple terms. but that doesn't happen. and that doesn't happen for a reason. and we just have to be very honest about that reason, which is the fact that we have um, you know, a permanent members that the pets to solidify their power and somehow still hold on to that. and they're, they're simply the lack of political willingness, despite the declarations. we,
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we don't see any indications. we don't see any reports saying for example, when the united nations security council is going to be reform. have you ever seen such a report saying, oh is going to be reform next year? no. so that just tells me that there's like a political will and as long as that remains the case, i believe we will have the same issues because this person little of just mentioned in the general assembly in his speech, which is of course, always the broken speech if the general assembly, the main session, it is not necessary just to make an expansion as well. he believes, is a shape for the family members to have some sort of peaceful intent for money. right. so that's why engine, i think i, i believe, you know, we're looking at the form of the international relations more broadly. we should be
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looking at something like a global security architecture, which is something that china promotes, are global development initiative. and look at a, perhaps alternative ways because of what we're seeing right now is the lack of capacity the when to really just avoiding sort of conflict as well. we are just seeing those popping up all the time. um, so uh that's basically i don't hold onto any optimism in that regard. yeah, it's very interesting, isn't it? as you both quite rightly pointed out if, if the result of those who come within as in how does it actually work then or the plan. but i mean, if it's the inches down to this one was like, you know, uh, the us as educated as it was to with hold mean, so power off for the new pub, an african members. i mean, what was the interpretation of this offer to?
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yeah, i think uh, honestly uh we need more than uh, one year to present it to because africa is a large uh, content uh with uh different geographic location. and uh, one person cannot, uh, uh, maybe the, uh well, the warranty after you know, i think we just lost, uh, uh, so that let's go down the bus to this cause we lost those one there as well. so i, so again, if i may, i think we lost a friend of mine a niger, but if i have a sofa, a little bit about the african countries that represented in the u. n. a, i mean they've also, they've told a little bit about this condemnation, all of the ukraine and how is that some of these countries are
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involved in the terrorist attacks in africa when we talk about this sort of, um, information i list of them with a representative still dividers in the un general assembly. what kind of, uh, well this kind of, of rhetoric gets traction. you know what to expect those. so you have made chunk of 5. if you look at it, uh 5 from those factors of the bus to acknowledge the fact that the victim pointed into the lounge just on to things. and it is highly under protected in length. and actually the mortgage, you know, by a 2050, that is an estimate that, uh, i have a photo of, you know, human being would be from epic. i do the latest. so what type of drivers do you have? they have been defining seats. but this, all of this question on $12.00, or 3 would come as much leader as a side. you know,
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we still don't know what is going to be the you wouldn't be doing more than one of the doors of the phones which, you know, the big big is having their brain. and they put the 5 of the w and job to the terminology when you had done the 70. and then you have a b 5. like coming to the fact that the 5 d b, the united states of america getting awfully uh so i don't think there might be 2 seats just pointing to the long standing demand from there, pick them the country, then i think the bus c a a more to it, then it meets the ice. i think a big clinic, but designed it. states of america is going to realize that the of china and russia, i get the, you know, so it's all so clearly we have to come part to 9. and the popularity of americans
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has also, as likely, as compared with china really is a popularity over russia is uh, is gave me. and so under the circumstances, particularly, you know, as in drum updated be heard a lot of the, i pretty confronted name. if i'm not wrong, he never visited during 40 years of his tablet as president of the united states, any of the victim countries. so now you can look at it as a, as an appeasement of the log on to name. are designed to, you know, like springfield foods and that stuff because america realizes united states of america, the alliances, there's no harm in making these promises. because i do basically it's, i'm going to happen tomorrow day after tomorrow. right. i really typos. it's a really big concern so, so why not have some, you know,
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get some brownie points from the countries that dramatic eyes though you don't wising into but all of them are on sending me mine. so i look at it this way. who's to stomach off already? i think on the computer the, you know, dissolves to be present a it is for this reason not the i think i do the in the, you know, behind go ok to the aggravation of the community. i mean the g 2 a d, as in the last time it would be posted by india because you didn't know that meant it as a member of the g. d 's and i'll be here for the bus one. so the idea of was to kim . yeah, unfortunately deep by little such a large number of the human beings. oh, i mean to nurse a quarter of each is absolutely necessary. now we're really good. what the conditions of that country really to be be so,
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but you called on each tens of other it's really based on the capacity to resolve conflicts, literally based on the uh, the, the, the, you know, credentials as, of being in the morning of activities. all these issues realize much, especially guys, monday night's dinner. but there's some, some balloon. so some, uh, some tools though for a guy pdf. how far membership would it be? was it an easy land cleared out? uh uh, let me get you a think uh how if you were in charge of rebuilding the uh un security council. what would you do? i mean, would every. busy one, get a quote voting powers with a visa, the scraps. how would you do it? well, that's somebody that i actually never has thought to. uh, i think we, we, we the, we don't have it, but i, i would do if i,
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if i were to have such power, if i would have such capacity. and i would basically just sit down and say ok, every country with the population in the g, d, p, above a certain level has an automatic right to see. i'm just saying these things. so all the top have what i would do. but perhaps i might just say something out of the ordinary, but it would just be as simple as i said before, as sitting down beside the point that the siding and pulling the criteria which are you know, you can have a country with a certain if all makes a level you take g d p as a criteria, a certain population level. you take that as a criteria as well. and then you might just have an inclusion and you might have a human nation actually of vito power in the implementation of the uh, uh well, uh, something alternative to a consensus system right uh,
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between these major powers. um, and that would require, i'm believe, as well a lot of performers within the united nations pertaining to um you know, the use of sanctions and the use of force as well, which includes uh, you know, revising the wind charter. was there something unprecedented and as i was saying, i don't see this happening. i just don't see it happening and, and unfortunately, right, because we are crossing a time as i was saying, that is from what i can say generates a lot of where he's actually, uh, you know, within the brazilian government and the institutions what the perception is, is that you know, that these attacks are just, you know, is rolled attacks around one day and the other day to read the text back. and then
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there's has blog and it's liter till brown, and they use them and, and so it seems quite idle in the face of all such conflicts. and i believe we just have to think of something alternative as i was saying, something like a global security architecture which is forced by china. um, we have a lot of initiatives that are a, you know, posed by china, which has dealt with road. and so i'm sure also all right then on a project, so they'll be sure to appreciate that. yeah. now, you know, so and uh, before we run out of the time, i'd like to get into this 11 more time cuz we have reconnected, what i need to know. what do you think is, is the best way to determine who will represent the african continent on the un security council given the multitude of countries buying for a voice?
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yeah, i think uh, that is on one excellent idea. if you guys can be maybe looking at the gdc and uh, and the population. so if that can be adopted, i think is great. and uh, to look at uh, the entries the nation. maybe a g d p. we, we, we also, i and i think i the, into the maybe people come to you might be add it in after the test. so i think that is fine because of the guy is really a d by me. so as that the pollution increasing uh development. so i think this, this conclusion. so definitely give me one person, come not present but own after the couple of the time of the whole weekend. so if
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we can get these 4 or 5 of them fit, you. excellent. that's actually kind of is growing a new business for kelly . and so i'm so far. yeah. and the a big off country is oh, i'm calling to learn should i say i'd. so if i may, um, i touched of all this slightly before, but the african countries representative to the u. n. have called for the condemnation of a cleaning support for terrorism on the continent. will it and gain much traction? sorry. are you mean to mean that i've taught? oh yeah. oh, but can you repeat your question? you mean so these are the concepts. yeah. they've can definitely go ahead because a, so that was supporting terrorism in africa. do you think this,
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the kind of is this, the platform is a you, in general assembly the platform to talk about such things? well, i think it's an old one for me and the each country decides to speak based on data, on the properties and on the on perceptions i do. in fact, this is once in a year to possibly do for you one country to come forward and share what, what is the global i'll look at and uh, you know, many things which find, uh, you know, as i mean, as soon as phones direction are those are ignored as uh, if i may have it in, um uh, you know, the, the case of my own neighbor boxed on that me made it at each one every year to talk . busy about little issue which is gosh creve. and the, i've seen that
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a little bit of time in the previous year, they're finding absolute door traction even they're closer springs and allies have stopped there for they are giving any attention to this. so i think the each country has the right to be able to take that are on their own business with them. they decide what to talk about, want to talk to come, promote and they really have to see what's really good. stick to the right. interesting. those wrap up so you know, uh to live in uh the south america roselle. okay. they was, uh, as we said before, uh, a seats. do you think that there are other countries in the region in south america or the central america is that also should have a voice as well? um, when you look at the region and if you were to just look at the criteria that i was just mentioning,
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you would automatically just think of mexico ray and venezuela perhaps, which required um, you know, relevant countries. um, perhaps we might have to think in terms of organizations as well as i said, i don't have all the answers in the world, but all i can do is basically criticize um we like uh yeah, we like it. huh. okay. but i think you uh thank you. um, as i would say, um, well, you would have just a plethora of uh, potential candidates. uh not only in the region but as my colleagues percent mentioning as well. um, africa, when you look at, um, you know, the, the, the population, the size of some of these countries it would meet such criteria for example. and you would have, uh, you would think also if indonesia as a potential candidate it would be an expansion such as the expansion that is being proposed and actually being acted upon by the brakes. countries though that is
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a little bit more um um you know, wait and regularly. right. uh because um we know we, we have an idea of the criteria but they were never actually, um, mentioned. so that is something in a way also quite political. um, i believe uh it goes a bit beyond that. um when it comes to making such decisions. um, as i was saying, um if you would have a before again, it is all over the world and you would have to really uh, just consider the ways in which such an expansion could be done and how it could be organized. and how of the vote structure of wood where it can what that would entail in terms of uh before me. um the actual mandates of the united nations. correct. um otherwise. um i don't see that we are in
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a very good direction. yeah. and they do investing, i'm gonna end with one more question. so it was one if i'm a gentleman i think so i do appreciate you. do any of those one? i love. yeah. i'll see you. we heard from uh you know, books either fast. so i'm molly and well they talked about that and cm's sort of terrorist support. uh, you know, in uh on the content but, but to get your views. uh, what might be key of interest in supporting a big, seamless group on the continents. mm hm. yeah, i think it was due to my to my suggestion, one of the representative to come from nigeria. why? because and then junior is the, uh, the dental of africa. and of course very uh many g, g, d, b and the population in the us preventive to emerge should be in
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my julia before mention the and also on the uh, forgive a but so i don't know if you had that up the model in, on these in a lead not died june from these. yeah. he has his yeah, of, of supplying weapons. i'm supplying terrorism on the african continent. why would that be? yeah, i know. i think we're having trouble connecting to us along the side. they all right. what else? the name of that i saw a model of what the full identity, the representation of india to the un. yeah. the so be our executive and is the results for you. for 7 news out that i those one of the director general of the board of the state agency for great green will. genuine,
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thank you so much for joining us. all right, let's finish off. this is out by time that has lashed out as the us for deployed a missile system in the philippines. mazing sides of washington is oh, really, i didn't feel to the far a real time since in the asia pacific. the deployment of intermediate range missiles by the united states in the region undermines peace and stability and is not in the interest of regional countries. class. i haven't came my way. i mean, so you know, that's funny is for miss. so is, is south korean council thoughts in new york times? don't emphasize the acts of the us can disrupt regional stability and plugged into asian countries including south korea into will be. so i, that's considering west very close to visuals, are known to the positive development of the relationship between the 2 countries
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in the field, washington, the food, a type of food with our loan system in the philippines. some of the exercises i've has not with the google one, it dislikes chinese them, cheese on to be to college jobs, says the chinese reaction to what i think those escalation is reasonable. since the nation is interested in only its own affairs. that we'd have to remember back during the cuban missile crisis. united states almost be. busy of the world, this right now, us placing type who missiles on the philippines, china is actually being quite reasonable by giving a verbal warning. you know, trying to resolve this diplomatically raising issue, rather than threatening to blow up, but need to do a new clear game of chicken. i mean, chinese concern, is there a valid hi fi place in bible missile in the philippines? they can short from the time or to west strike all mainland china target so
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far. uh, you know, china has not late at take a look at a response. you know, whether he was sanctioned or us military as in circles been of china because china, it is focused on its own internal development like you has always been because trying to understand as long time as i'm tired of side with every month, every year. it's finally easy, economy continue to grow. that means that you have use military power, but you new to grow, whereas it's the, it's fully opposite on the us every day. the relative us nominate is around. busy the world has continued continuously eroded by many of us, its own military misadventures, around the world to try and use are playing a very patient game they can afford to wait. you know, chinese are very patient people, they can afford to wait out the decline of the us and i saw from a find
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a house. it was a pleasure to have your company. my colleagues bought some quotes that will be with you in the top with the, with who a 30 president, the the or what is part of the leg? is it a party would post to is it the defense you of us in that, in the word part? is it something deeper, more complex might be present? good. let's stop. without cases, let's go out of as in the late 18 ninety's, french soldiers led by general to boot. i arrived in asia with the goal of expanding french control in west africa to the territory of more than shot one or
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32 on sunday. i mean, he's stuck up some new shoes or all the cars do. and dick's shown the list to the tent of who they on the east, one of the most horrific campaigns of a trustees to have ever taken place in the history of the continent. liability giving somebody, i know the question that you download the class you followed the diesel april the national most likely multiple villages with devastated a numerous members of resistance groups with the headed apartment for us to get the move of the young investigator in search of his own identity inbox on that you need to africa, beach races general with eyes, blood drenched roots in an effort to establish how your legacy still echoes throughout the confidence. so my name is sam and i come from england and ask them
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really to find out more about the, the mission of willie and the history of in, in the region, the hello and welcome to the cross stuff full born. here we discussed some real in the on march the 22nd 1943 during the great petrie. i'll take the shirts and bunch of fatality and 118 fun down the belly, mercy, and village of causing the issue. but the person, if i did the wish to be loaded in luxury, is the most of the rooms to pony it to you. 149 people died, being 75 children of age was practically wiped off the face of the long new blue loves the lit option. could of charlotte was noisy,
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the tutoring on the brain. he's running a tense, could rolling to 11 on within hours and that's according to the media report. citing add on domain to us or special and not com is the spark level. no one's leadership say it's ready to feel, feel that the 2006 un resolution to avoid a conflict with its navy. but we are ready to fully implement un security council resolution, 17 o one, and we are ready to send the liberties homie to the southern area for it to fully performance duties and coordination with international peacekeeping forces. i'm

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