tv Cross Talk RT September 30, 2024 8:30pm-9:01pm EDT
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say to ourselves, we take our weapons, we spend up, and we bite is all comes despite the even some western countries are being restrained. is that virtually nothing that can be done to stop these are all at this point on why it's, by the way, why is it acting with such kind of confidence? because it has the need to in the united states of america's navy ship the naval power of the united states of america and made to our right here at the mediterranean. which with an i'm just like mike also surprises the mediterranean as well. and i'm talking about resistance surprises here because of the military base, the occupation military base of the knights of the united states of america and the new k and cypress. the western, the eastern and south eastern part of cyprus are occupied basis by then. i say something, okay, and it is the main hub for uh, getting all the necessary. uh gadgets and tools and weapons for designers is babies to continue with their genocide israel. and in less than 24 hours,
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israel has been buying gaza, lebanon as fund funds in syria in bonds, damascus. and it bumps the data in less than 24 hours. and it is a really shocking to see real disturbance, a blind eye, because it is what is supported by the nicest american. it is the biggest we need to are based on the us empire in the region, and it cannot really afford to lose. well, thanks very much for your company. this time we'll be back with an update and just send the 13 minutes. uh, but do keep across all the latest developments in the meantime. and head over to a website called the the,
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[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome across the board. and we're all things we consider 9 people about the assassination of has the laws as on. that's what all a is a momentous event as a tactic. israel has been winning one battle after another, but it's murdering resistance leaders, a good strategy. speaking of tactics and strategy, hoping so in skis, us trip, go to discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast or the gamble which be found on youtube and locals. and in this symbol we have cut, each serial model is a story and, and political commentator, right, gentlemen, prospect rules and effect, that means you can jump any time you want, and i always appreciate it. but let's kick it off with georgia in budapest, i, georgia. i've known you
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a long time. this is probably been one of the momentous last few, the few days of our political life time um the, the, the, the murder of his blogs liter, um, widely regarded as a major power broker, not only in lebanon, but throughout the, the greater middle east. israel's winning some battles here. um. what is this portent, george? are you right visa? israel is waiting um some major battles there and it is stalling. um, what has happened during the past a week to 10 days? um because this was a series of israel's decapitation. the tax against the his ball elite is no one was really expecting this. so it started with a page or a tax and then went to the walkie talkie, a tax, then it was the type on the document. i've made it easier for you. and then we had the, this, this of the huge attacks in level the,
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culminating in the assassination of um, those roller. it looks now as if the entirety of his ball is leadership has been eliminated. now the light but doesn't mean as buffalo has gone at least as far as we can tell, but not. but this is a major blow that this royal has inflicted on has buller and um, what has to then think what's next? i think and the innovation of leveling that is almost certainly on the cards they will invade. and the thing take the take the southern part of level non, you know, maybe you know, move up to the latania river and just simply have this as a buffer zone. that the middle tries about the zone and the which will be under is really occupation. i think that's over stuff. and what happened. but there is a real warning and that's on the yahoo issue this morning to iran. you say, hey, we did this of as well that we can do this to you. and i think that's good. well
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happen. i mean there's like with well star targeting major if it goes in iran, in the hope of provoking any rain in a response. knowing, and this is because of all the nonsense coming from washington knowing that america would come in on israel side if it wrong attacks israel in retaliation. so that's where do this. right. and it shouldn't be, you know, we don't even what would happen in iran, in such a comp, a sense as circumstances. but it does look like, i mean you, you're saying this be to some time ago that is around the caesars this opportunity as of a really big chance to sort out a lot of problems. bullet ones, cutting the footage, coming out of the last few days from 11. i'm particularly be rude. that it just defines imagination. i mean, it's hard to believe it's even real, but this is what's been going on in gaza is do you think that this is really
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offensive in lebanon is going to mirror what is been happening in gaza? mean, because it looks absolutely because, you know, we hear that a mouse has to be destroyed, but what we've seen is a lot of civilian casualties. now we're seeing as the law has the go, we're seeing a lot of civilian casualties. are they going to mirror, go ahead. i think they are perfectly capable of that. morally, can only get us health. so as i said more really capable and unfortunately that i'm really tempted, capable of that, as you say, because of us had and look before they did this to gaza. this janice site, right? they told us they will do it. and they have told us that about live on, on several times we have food announcement over months. quite a bit to the from leading is a, the politicians that look out because it was the same thing to level. so it's definitely a possibility unfortunately. and unfortunately,
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we also know from the experience of cause and the palestinians in general, that the west will not stop them. they're not restrained to them, and to help them do it if they choose to do it. but i think that the strikes that have done great damage to his belt like we've of towards have being at least equally aimed at civilian casualties and disruption. i think the sample of tackle is to see and play onto this fight. you decide because deborah list as they are. so i was thinking these things. so and i think one thing they wanted is code 8 and a ton of vegetables. refugees inside lip and onto the, stabilize the country further. and they also want an, a ton of very for very fuji's inside the capital city, because the capital city has made big cities has brought a different quotes, 5 mess, you know, that one on is a confession of the aspect. it complicates society and the tech in poor or, and well she,
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i for to is in this house now and they're making these people's displace into the center and other places and by route. so i think social disruption, sewing defense and tension they've been left alone as a whole and defend baby boot as a whole is also part of this is trevor is really strategy. i don't want to take too much time. i would like to add one thing. i entirely agree that they have unfortunately being very successful again in id for that. but you know that and to colonial resistance targets tend to take a very long time. and the people who say, well, as well as that, but what do you mean died before the vietnam war ended? you know, a lot of people forget that. and he was not in the necessary to bring it to close. sounds with none of the proxy is gone and the last with them these and a 1000 i'm using to and of resistance one of the war into yet. right? so this is, it's too early to tell, but it's very clear of the thing on that much of absolutely, but georgia, me the, it will, i get
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a message you back and forth yesterday talking about tactics and strategy. and that's really what i want to talk about here. and, you know, yes, was the bees a successful wins taking out leaders and whatnot. but i mean, it's the calculus that i think we're seeing unfold as a war is the a, it is it's, it's not looking for a specific outcome. it is just to continue to have a conflict. i mean, it's, it's very interesting looking at god. so, i mean, that's and you know, who has failed and gaza, well, you know, how much spilled they are, but god is destroyed. it's a complete shambles. ok, so it doesn't really matter of a mouse is bill right there. this is the same game plan with american health. no, no red lines apply here, but that's the that doesn't create political facts on the ground that are on the can um, have substance for the long term. it's,
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we're in the always living in the present of more. george? yes, i agree i, i should just say that the, the, his ball a leader that the israel killed a few days ago was a brand new mateo. like i got, i got me confused with the name, but to me you're absolutely right pizza, that, that what israel is doing is reorganizing the middle east then. and of course yes, we can say that as well because ultimately crushed the resistance. but they can give a damn good try because ultimately, um, you know, that the least for us is of we had to assume we're really powerful. another now built up an alternative, the set of structures in the middle east arrival israel, which namely it has ball. uh, you're on the various of the iranian boxes. you know, they've been hit very, very hot. and keep in mind it's been not just what happened to his butler books,
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the rise lack of action for on. so for a long time the, i mean the, the around the strange passivity in the face of repeat to is really the side of 2 hands actions were coordinated with the united states and other people to actually go with it. exactly. and so, and then of course we did a, we were expecting some kind of a rainy and response to the killing of the, um, the, the, so it'd be a little bit either of how most of that does that didn't come. and then surprisingly, the other day we had the new uranium prize and then talking about returning to the joint comprehensive plan of action. is there somehow you can, he can make nice with the west. so, you know, we're, we're getting the situation where, where is the resistance and wind, and here we have israel absolutely ruthless are, you know, they make clear that they are ready to do anything killers. many people destroy as much as they need. so to insure the safety, they've shown that they have no respect at all for um,
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anybody else's opinions. and so really well, what kind of stuff is right. i mean there's no, there's no power in the region. they can stop as well. um, there's no great power that can intervene to do something about israel. so you know, yes with the resistance will continue. but ultimately what is the point of the resistance that you're saying, oh, god has gone. it's not, there's no mo data to, um, you know, the, maybe some surviving remnants of hormones, but ultimately they do, you know, they've destroyed garza and, and again and then you know, that could easily move on to the west bank. but, and i think then, you know, they going to move in a level and then they're just to be occupied at bottom level. and then that's it. so. so if you have a discharge, you're absolutely right. but any, cuz i give this real security, you know, absolutely not. not in the long run. look, the comment is where a model of achieving security, but be kenneth every one around us and occupy everything they would have to
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complete not just commit complete multiple janice carpets to get security that find the way that finding it now. and then of course the people they won't be able to do, they would probably like to do that, but they won't be able to do that over time. look again, i totally agree about the way in which is why it has the access of resistance right now. pinged in a very bad place because on one side they have to live at. these very does have to live at these do mediating attacks on that. i'm not only to visit the devastating but to mean a thing. and on the other side, they have puts them in a place where they have to respond or lose credibility, right? you can see the implant of says, extreme, our discussion visit very natural. it via already saying, oh my god, look, so they kind of even strike back. but harvey, right. and this would happen to a lot of people, and i think this is that out of the integrated calculus as was and unfortunately to an extent it is bound to work. but i would add one scene, look, vive would ask,
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what is the point of resistance if they come strike back i will give to answers 1st before the part of resistance sometimes is to survive until you have better circumstances fight bus. the point of success as thompson fonts in 1943, it's the way to come to the landing and 1944 when you can really strike, right? i know it's a, it's a paint apollo analogy, but still, the other thing is, is what a such are brought to country is that for a lot of people, it affects and who survives the question is not all across to it's not what's the point. so the question is good till you see it's revenge. you have to consider that every time is what it does is they bu crate. a lot of people, when you tell them your resistance is futile, the absolute but you no, but i don't care anymore as long as i get the kids, some of them. right. and so that is all. it is also constantly something in motion . so it's not that simple in the end, i think deal. i mean it also there in the moment we're in the present and we're
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looking at a data bed again and say, colonial resistance movements. uh, last a very long time. i think the procedures were in the live on for about a 123 years and then they were. all right gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that you operate, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with our to the take a fresh look around his life. kaleidoscopic isn't just a shifted reality distortion by tell us tired vision with no real live indians. fixtures designed to simplify will confuse really one say better wills, and is it just because it shows you few fractured images presented as fast? can you see through their illusion going underground? can
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the welcome back to pass that goal of wines? i'm beautiful dramatically. we're discussing some real news, george, i want to finish up our, our discussion on events playing out and loving on the less rolo was a very well known character. even his enemies admitted he was charismatic. and he was not just a, a religious fanatic for a terrorist. he was a lot of things to a lot of people and he will be remembered for a very long time. one of the things that when you have an event like this, of such a historical figure, when the air can ask themselves, is the pressure that comes after him is going to be more determined take, take more risks. meaning, was he the mot permit that they're going to mask one day george a. well, it's a very good question for you. then we really don't know because it has the good
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have situations in which the new leader will go off on the very different attack. i mean, remember we assumed when um a nasa died that his but his successor would follow a very similar policy to nice as willing to if i, so i've asked you to do the 180 degree tunnel that i've completely abandoned us as well. so we don't know what would happen, but those are all over is there was a very powerful, a very dominant figure within uh, as beau and um and one who was clearly a very realistic person. i mean, this is no blow hard knowing and wasn't just empty foundering against the design is . so he didn't give a very realistic presentation of the situation and the, the weak. this isn't vulnerabilities of israel, some of opposition and the fact and, you know, all of this time were, you know, we had been expecting something more from those both of them with what he was given
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. but evidently he thought that, well, we really don't want to provoke a huge will with israel and i think, and those are all letting you know it was, it was right. this is bottom where it wasn't in any um, you know, fit condition to fight against them. as well, but you, what you have with this will have to ask where the village is speculative. okay? but whether these religious leaders, whether that's rolla, whether the religious leaders in a run have a sufficient grasp of the realities of the world. you know that maybe just the to observe and that's the see how legit, the realized cooler obligates, you know, the people that are up against absolutely ruthless, that they're ready to do anything. and then i'll go but he's really in the united states. so, you know, maybe i somehow would, you know, let's just go to spend the last few years preparing in a much more or less vigorous and strong minded way to take all these relevant. maybe a secular leader might have been most successful. i think the same question to you
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because the big the up to 60, to 80000 is really residents of northern israel. are still not back in their homes for all we know the most that has the laws are single is still intact because again they you can accommodate the leadership which apparently it, but it looks like that's the case here, but their infrastructure is still there. so it's still a potent force, that's why i'm asking about who comes net 30 or yeah, a place that i, i don't do, you have thoughts on sounds with most of the, you know, being published, but in principle, right? so the question that is also is, is there a, going to launch a ground invasion, right? because if it does launch a ground invasion to the styles of living on su, mentioned at the beginning, the conditions for the last $0.05 and be think that that will be responding. what do i spell the strings? the problem i think for any new leadership is that if they accept at this point and which might be in the office might be above probably the slightest won't even
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discount nearby. and in that case, the coupling from because a gen, yeah, it would be seem as between causal finding the answer would be seen as such thing on the conditions of being defeated. that would be the message at this point. and i think they knows that as much. so one thing about leadership, i of close, it's absolutely true that they have suffered for risk strikes and, and most of it has been removed. but it's also true that we know that all these leaders have deputies, that doesn't mean they're all ready to take over all the same quality, not at all. but of course it is an organization sophisticated enough. so that if you will strike edits, have it doesn't give mediately collapse 5, and it has the capacity to regenerate that to an extent, i think that's important to keep in mind as plan. okay, and you actually, um, i did mentioned in my introduction that we would comment on mr. zelinsky is a trip to america and cost a lot of waves, probably waves that he really had anticipated. and of course,
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calls that he was getting meddling and the american politics wouldn't be for the 1st time. you and i have chronicled this all the way back to 2016 of detroit ski return home a victor or him was he vanquished. i don't, i don't think it was i the really a but there's the question that so that would, that's got a reflection of a level to solve and so you got to yeah, it's all right. but he does come across as a kind of, as they get from a sit com, you know, something makes the appearance every few epis loads, you know, where is it is tish up and, and pads on either side, you know, and then you know, use it. but everyone's already getting tired of him and you know, he's got a few lines and um, but everyone's already moving on to other things. but they, you know, they have, they're all very, i mean, but ultimately he did um, clearly flagrantly be interfered in internal us a politics, you know,
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with his trip to pennsylvania and, and hanging out with all these a democratic party, big wigs. and then you know his interview with a new yorker in which he, um, said negative things, particularly about j the balance on the list or as the end of our trunk. and then the meeting with crowd was really very, very in consequential middle trumpet as usual. saying, oh yeah, yeah, you know, great guy, a great guy. but he said, but i always have good relations with the boat and, and so you know, i'm going to get on the phone too. and, and, you know, trying to sort this out and, and when zalinski amazes again, said com routine. well, i hope you have better relations with me than with boats and is it? well, it takes 2 to tango. so i, i don't think this was particularly successful for him. and because like i'm from what we know publicly, i don't know that the white house committed itself in any way to his victory plan. but not but, but given this, the situation in washington, the given at least they,
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that are a commitment continue and commitment to ukraine. i don't think was a disaster either. yeah, it's interesting that, i mean, you know, i mean when, when you look at the totality of your answer at the very end, you talked about the so called victory plan should have been at the top in the bottom. see, that's the point here. teddy. you know, from what wave it still hasn't been repealed. what the victory plan is, i'm everybody's talking about it. but it doesn't say like to have anything to do with victory and doesn't seem like much of a plan. the problem is this administration and very much so per zelinski is his political legitimacy is 0. he's only kept afloat by western support in western money in western arms. but um, this is a, a strategy that um, is kind of skill born right now in doubt. keep them or go with that is the strategy medic, you know, i think that's a good summary and as far as the victory plan was concerned,
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there's no such can. i mean, i'm not totally sorry, a very good to cranium blogger was, of course, the next i have selected. um, it has talked about this, everything that he had about this mysterious plan allowance to be here, this bible, but also in league. some of the american administration, it's another shopping around the banking this. that's what this is. they've just written up stocks. they've gone to once again and this time to call it the victory plan. and of course, because the military situation present, museum gets worse and worse and worse, these plans on one lots are to, you know, the dates of it read even lines, mails to germans and not have been to 90 and 4445, you know, making victory plans, so it's it's, it's getting ridiculous. but the other thing of course here is that did georgia. so right. the man is from episode. com. he is also a, that's where you came from. he comes literally, you follow the car and i do so. right. and now he is jumping the shark, hundreds of thousands ukrainians have died and then he's still on the same stupid
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routine that they taught him at the very beginning of those large scale more and you can think of anything that's fine, he has loan use for it. so i think that measure against what he needs it's, this was a defeat i take towards current, i think towards his objective be so to speak. right? that is sort of model in between. but if you'll hold it up against, once he will need to sort of save him of what that is is, is clearly the feed because he would need so much. i mean, look item, if you could almost say that the landscape tragedy is said, ukraine is not, it is by the american support for ukraine. this really condition a and right and less than that. right, right. that's the american support for is right. s, the american say is iron clad. right? um ukraine has never chief the status and then never chips the state. that's it and enjoy it. which again, you know, they, the problem is here. when you look at this project, it's
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a democratic party project from day one. okay. we have the republicans and all of their, you know, clutching their pearls. how dare you be partners. i mean, if you hadn't noticed bids, i don't know what, where you were to, you'll have to, i'm when it comes to the politics here. but the problem is here is that there is no peace plan and you and i have been saying this from the very, very beginning. you shouldn't be talking about victory. no big, even though in the even defeat doesn't really kind of fit into the equation piece is what everybody needs. that piece is what everybody wants, but we can't get there george a well 6, except that the united states really doesn't want these. i mean the, the, and that's the true united states. so the one piece for russ. yeah, that's for sure. right. that's it. he's like is i basically want to keep it going that the way they keeping it going, which is, you know, they, the arms of manufacturers, elizabeth shining out the products of sending them the ukrainians are getting killed. well, you know, the, know, and no one cares about that russian, but the most of both things are russians are getting killed, you know,
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like you get into the, on killing rushes. so it was basically, let's keep the will going for a little bit longer. that's why they never spell out any kind of a, a peace deal that they would accept, you know, like in the nature was never spelled out anything, a total. that's a realistic, that's any live in any way is attainable, probably because they feel that if they did, then, you know, actually that would stimulate negotiations that say, well, okay, feel ready to accept this. and we want that. then we can actually talk of some of the the find something in the middle, but they don't do anything like that. instead, they make these absolutely unrealistic demands like complete withdrawal of a russian forces. nike, you knew, crane with a 1991 boldest, and they were actually the surrender themselves to a of a war crimes tribunal. well, this is unacceptable and, and the need to lead us know it's only acceptable. so that's why they just look and keep the authoring list and keeping the wall going in the hope that somehow ukraine
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can go on fighting to go never just die one party, but gentlemen, is it the subs? seeing so in ski, standing next to trump? here i just couldn't help but have the feeling that zelinski is terrified not only for his country, because i don't think he cares much about his country, considering the carnage is read about is mon physical safety level the the, the, they are. i want to thank my guess and assemble and in budapest and of course when i think our viewers for watching us here at archie, so you next time remember across, stifles the, the, the, the gym. and so just deal with the, with the one with taking that picture. they were proud of the muscle by the way, to go in your mouth settings menu opinions or no. but he got cutting away or i so
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it was who i see on google. okay. and with and then almost a week ago, and then we'll get to bundle the, the general say to us is love to the screen. but is this indeed reality last has never been to the did you purchase a i did you please give us a time to time price sizing? hoya to do this, a gets off of its uh, upstairs i see the v as in actually this is a very bold decision by the gym and the government to even stop because he is when the agreement was reached, gena, they did more divisions and more and god more questions or more of those they are using to pay us what they are giving us just go to the pollution
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conference and now we have not been support. you've called what has been happening here. it will open the ponder as books. the next thing it will be them full then also have to pay the on the is road. the class unlimited corporation again has for a long time getting something level of correspondence of following the development phones. but we here is really a to reward team because we are some to, to full, to kilometers away from the for the with lab. and on i was just observing the nice guy. we received a flare that was uh, eliminating the night sky the lebanese health industry says 9400
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