to, to justify the data continuous at that one the m on global known as well as im garza but it, you know, if you consider eh, having all the is that i really is citizen in shelters for about 20 or 30 minutes. if that's an effective, then there is something really wrong in the way that is an idea as measuring the damage and the effect on if it's a video that, that, that definitely something that needs to be taken into consideration. well, that's the update. now keep watching are tend to national for all the latest from the middle east and around the world. by now the the,

[000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered on peter lavelle. what is the state and future of the resistance movement, challenging israel with the gods as genocide continuing unabated and testable as leadership designated? what are some of the choices facing a rent is israel getting? it's which of a regional war, the cross fucking the resistance move and i'm joined by my guess mohammed mirandi and be root is a professor at the university of toronto. and in montreal we have when we rabbani he is co editor of devalue. alright, jolene cross top roles in effect, that means you can jump in any time you want and i always appreciated. well, how many let me go to you 1st and be rude?

there's so many separate individual things that we can be talking about. but i'd like to go for them the broadest picture, starting off in what is the state of the resistance right now, given what's going on. it's been happening in the last week in 11 and go ahead. a lot of people here obviously, and they're very difficult situation. they phrased it. yeah. with a shock on, on the 1st day when they bought the south central 11 on hundreds of people, that's when i decided to come to be with me today. but also to do my own part with media and when i was amazing, people were bagley obviously because of the science. but then we had the air sites in southern it was where i was, i was about a 1000 meters away from where i said it has that. and that's of it was underground

. a set of tires the ground showed 080 we 100. this house and hundreds of people were this we're slaughter when i was working at a complex form. so they just, they were all fine, but the west would meet. yeah. of course, only focus is on the market to say they don't want to deal with the genocide aspect to dislike. and then how is the, the intern from southern they the refinance. told people to be by on the very short period of time. obviously they really didn't want and then they struck over 10, maybe a dozen different phases which weren't declare and then it just the guy and they got worse. so people were, were married. and then when they discovered that say it was march of people were

people who were refugees on the street. they were we see tiers, but they quickly they quickly compared sauce. and i personally believe that the larger than the state has sent us on both sides. the resistance is the last people in the west and some others may say these, okay, was that he was a towering figure. he may has for long what it is a cell that's readily missing from the bay where i am right now. and the feed is, i isn't out by and all these other groups as well as a sophisticated organization today, maybe intelligent people, maybe higher, educated people. we are affected and spread out across the country and beyond. and they are more than capable of defeating this way. and the notion,

i big uh, the resistance, big headed model, an individual group of individuals. i think it sort of raises is orient. yeah. yeah . this is, you have a strong trip there and it's raised for me from and i think they'll see that they will lose. yeah, because the resistance is an idea and it's communities it's, it's not one person. and, and if you go according to the west to one bad person, okay, well, we, you know, as we speak right now, there appears to be a ground incursion into lab and on there's a lot of conflicting reports about what to what degree and what, you know, it's limited and targeted. i think i've heard that before. oh yeah, i did. 1982. they said exactly the same thing. it didn't work out then it didn't work out in 2006. what's going to be different this time? we as well we'll have to wait and see. i mean, regarding your previous question has above the deputy general secretary and i am

costs of him yesterday gave an address in which he stated that has been the remains institutionally coherent. that it will quickly replace those leaders, including the general secretary who are recently killed within a very short period of time that it retains the will and capacity to fight. and it's that it retains its military capabilities and it will not renounce any of its objectives. in other words, there will be no the linking of love and on the gaza strip. those are fairly clear criteria, so we should find out before too long to what extent has about has been weakened and to what extent hasn't regarding your question. it's a 1982. it's 2006. it's somewhat ironic. 11 on the smallest arabs date is where is really and us hubris and goes to diets the

graveyard of these grand additions and 1982. you have ariel sharon's operation big pines falsely sold to the world as, as of operation piece for galilee, which was sold as an attempt to push the pillow back 40 kilometers from these really border but was actually a grand plan to remake the levant and it's made achievement was in fact the establishment of hezbollah, which is real, is fighting today in 2006. as you may remember, the us secretary of state called the liza rice referred to as rules invasion of love. and on in that year, as the birth pangs of a new middle east, and it turns out to be a rather bloody miscarriage. of course, some of the past is not a definitive predictor of the future. but i think what we've seen now is that is

real, has announced a very limited objective for its invasion of loving on, mainly posting hezbollah forces back from the border. but it's already clear that it's envisions, are much larger, i think is real given what it has achieved in terms of assassinations during the past month. now is confident that it can dismantle and destroy as about the as part of a broader plan to also directly engage iran. and from its point of view, hopefully the engineer directed to us into the way it seems to me that you know, they're trying to solve all of their quote unquote security problems simultaneously . this is an opportunity they said, and they have a very ply, an american president and congress that will go along with and i want to talk a little bit about around in the 2nd part of the program. well, how many do you know? one of the big discussions i've had with people, serious people,

is the discussion over tactics and strategy. the walk and slaughter of people is a tactic, but it's not a strategy. these rallies are very good at doing that. it's a and a front to humanity. what they do, but it's not a strategy, go ahead. well, actually, in that, this strategy is financing for the story, is ready to see that the world is fine. that's what they want. the big one is ready. they've done the last year. has not, it has not only been story, we've been military, they will never be invested in some major investments and as well and the teacher. but all that aside is very easy, is made itself into a, a illegitimate proceeding to the higher so many people that i know that who never would have said such things before. peter,

one of the extraordinary things is that some people are right not criticizing the wrong for about 5 minutes. bye now. bye. waiting to strike. it is what so many people that i know are hon kind of me from across the world and say, why is it you want to see me as well, please, as a buyer. i. oh, yeah, our decision maker or something. you know, we, the monitors being supported by people to be want to israel is rich because this change, this is, if this is the strategy that they have succeeded just a couple of decades ago. we were, you know, when, when i 1st came on your show many years ago you ron was the axis of evil. yeah. demonize across the world. and now we see people from all walks of like

jews, jewish friends of mine, christian friends of mine, most of the friends of mine, others i was asking, why is it the 100? and i think that is symbolical, something something much bigger. this rate by due to jayden myers and his self. i think the really nice the resume is going to help problems in the months and years ahead. that will will become a issues. it cannot be resolved. well, i mean, another issue moving that it will, that i don't think will be ever resolved, at least. and when we think of the region is uh, the united states as having any kind of legitimacy whatsoever. everybody knows that the, this is really government could not do without what it's doing on so many different fronts without the united states and joe biden do as duplicity says he is

a reflects that go ahead moving as well. i would argue that the us essentially forfeited the any legitimacy that it had in this region in 2003 with the invasion of iraq. and i think you're right that any residual legitimacy that has retained in the 2 decades since that has, has evaporated into thin air in the past year. and i think we also need to be clear about the nature of the us is really relationship. many people like to present to the us as a country that is in effect of the subordinate power as one that is controlled by his real and these real lobby and, and, and so on. and you know, i, as i would like to say, i'm tools don't want dogs, dogs work tools. and in this relationship is indisputably the united states. that is a superpower and israel,

which is the regional proxy. and it's true that us policy towards the middle east has now for several decades. been characterized by i think, what many observers would, would call unconditional support for israel, but never the less what we've seen in the past year moines. and i've had to jump in here, we're going to have to go to a hard rate, but i will ask you to hold that thought and we'll continue when return. okay, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the future of the resistance. stay with our team, the the, the, the,

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welcome back across software. all things are considered on peter lavelle to mind you were discussing the future of the resistance movement. the ok, let's go back to moving in montreal before it went to the break your characterize and the relationship, the united states and his real have in the region. please continue. i think you was making the point that the level of us support for israel during the past year as even by us standards on a whole new level. absolutely no restraints of the us and that so many of us european allies have knowingly unwillingly shredded the international rulebook, the norms in volume. so they're under penance on, on the altar of these really impunity in order to ensure that israel can do as it pleases how it pleases without facing any consequences for its actions. and i don't

think this is a product of some nefarious control of washington by and israel lobby or anything about us. israel has many groupies in the us congress and so on. but i think on the one hand, do you have an administration led by the self proclaimed design is still bite and that is almost uniquely invested in israel. and israel being able to achieve its objectives despite its failures over the past year. but there's also a geo political element to here to this issue, which is that washington i think, quite rightly sees and is really success as an american success. and is really failure, or is really defeat as reflecting negatively on washington's position in the region and more broadly, geopolitically. well, i mean, if we can go back to be rude. i, i can't, i, i understand the reasoning the moving gave us, but i can't see how an end is really victory. however, you would define,

it would be an american one because you have a regime that as low as the in the entire region. how can that possibly be a win for the united states? but i suppose that's beside the point. go ahead and go home and react to it, and i'm moving had to say, i think it both correct. i but i just don't see it is rarely with americans. me when, if it is raise, succeed in subjugating the vision region likely turn out cleansing or fulfilling the process of westbank southern level. but i don't see that as a result, the office, it is a minor space and the europeans have destroyed the image across the wall along the side as well. there see has a guess, right?

be said, this is there, there seem to be on is israel is, uh, the united states, the town does not wire with all these, of course designers. lobby is an american america in the united states. they're jewish christians, they are a secular and they are very how. so it is the united states, but they are destroying themselves to collect the what is destroying itself as a result of as well. i mean, also also it where i would say, you know, it's, it's, it's so easy to get into the, the details of nothing. yeah. who did this, and then biden said that, but i mean, it's is realize, reinforcing a greater american hegemony. i think that's the service they think they are providing and the americans are so grateful they'll, they'll turn their, turned a blind guy to genocide. i mean, it's really quite extraordinary. and for the goal of a gemini, which is in there, really dangerous,

particularly in that region. we have so little time. and i want to ask you about a around because that, you know, that's what everybody we, you, your 1st answer on this program is about how the world is looking to around. and i know that iran has strategic patients, like the russians do, like the chinese do the oh, how, how do you think the they were going to move forward here because israel wants as much violence as it can generate on as many friends as possible, always with the hope in which it with a lame duck president like joe biden, the americans will come in, they do the americans do have the hardware go ahead moment. i don't know, she can hear the sound of drones and explosions. but this is what life is now for the love of these, these are her busters here. i, well, obviously the ronnie is, will continue to support the access of resistance. they will continue to find the

resistance. they've got the allies, they will do more and also weapons. all the members of this race will never be able to pay the cost will continue to enable the yeah, man and the american they will continue to defeat the americans in this way of using the red sea. and the, for those who say that these are they were, they wouldn't have had success box. these don't be the powers that are far greater than that of. so these are people who believe in the ad, the colonial struggle they believe in the cd design colonialism. and this, those are privacy especially, you know, it's not the kinds of you but anyway and drama continued to support high school, the thousands of kilometers as piles that exist under that are not, these are the weapons at all. they are because of the wrong support,

and it's not really hasn't heard as well as a constructor. they killed the commanders as always in the weakest link it's. it's a cd of espionage and like that. yeah, the west with embassies, west, many, many west journalist people going across the country. the machine has not had any successes dealing with. it's under brown structure at all. then we have syria, iraq, but i have no doubt that you're on we'll, it's all under says way, but she, so the minus says, says they wouldn't, i, i don't doubt that that will happen. but i think the wrong use have a balancing act to do. on the one hand, they have to ensure that nothing yahoo is defeated so far has been defeated the bike,

despite the fact that the in the immediate us about it was an upfront because they keep something through the state as far as, especially in recent days. but he is, he will not be in tomorrow that he must be defeated so they will protect. they will protect awesome the other groups, but they have another thing to do because the other one is very rich. he must be defeated. but on the other hand, no one wants original the, the writers and it has all have their policy has allowed this a resume to escalate 1st. so the international community forget the less international community, the global south seas is really, really me. is that right? so the west and media products and the west coast is not able to turn the tables inside them. it is about the wrong. but with the response and the cover to make a decision, are they going to initiate?

if they do, then all the raw america has to be swept away. perfect, and all that could destroy the whole oil and gas economy for the world. so no one wants this, but we're going to move it the wrong direction for a regional context. the miners and the resistance wants to make sure that the world sees it. this is what the americans and this race is not something that you're initiate, you know, moving ever since the inception of the state of israel is really foreign policy, has been quite a adapted of dividing the error of neighbors and puts you, making them go against the around, but over the last year we've seen a couple a let a lot, all these different groups. they may have differences, but the united, more than ever, against this policy of israel supported by the united states. i mean, this is one of the unintended consequences where we see the resistance actually

stronger, not weaker as well. i said, if you go back through israel's admittedly short history, you'll find that one of the principles of those early state craft has been to prevent any unified or coordinated action against it. this goes back to the armistice. negotiations of the late 19 forties or israel insisted on negotiating separately with each other of states and succeeded in doing so. um its attitude during, for example, the 1991 madrid, a peace conference and so on. and so i think israel's primary dilemma now is that it is being confronted by this coalition, known as the axis of resistance. and it's a coalition, not a formal alliance, but it is uh, coordinating. and therefore i think is real strategic objective. now that it's a little, you know,

drunk with power after its successful series of assassinations and loving on during the past 2 months and, and elsewhere is to seek to systematically dismantle this coalition. first by the linking its members from the gaza strip, then by the linking them from each other, and then by destroying each of them. and i, and if you listen to a speech and that's in yahoo gave yesterday, where he basically promised the randi and people that salvation is at hand, that will be coming soon and so on. it's quite clear that israel has determined that the road to death rock goes through the southern suburbs of beta root and given the situation in the us. i think the period between now and the end of the by the ministration represents an extraordinary january 2025 represents an

extraordinarily dangerous time. and my thoughts exactly here is what, what, how will that play into the calculations? do you think into then? i think i can pay the balance of your selections. we have a very dangerous situation, but there's only one option that is to ensure the next in the past and we should be here. we are western pop together or the west wing media will 5 to speak of this very success is in, in a bad single territory. but we've heard about 2006. we were told that they were waiting and suddenly we woke up. i think it was the financial times of last week journal which admitted the same as for the national and the i don't remember exactly which one was and i think that it was being drawn. and this way,

these drugs are miscalculating the market, the same test, and that's of, i think it's only maybe people are more determined, more angry and as your, as you raised the previous. but it has, i did the region even further. look at the state is coming now. how much? well wait, you always have to be careful what you wish for, particularly in politics here. gentlemen, that's all the time we have. i want to thank my guess and be rude and in montreal. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at ortiz. see you next time. remember across the the look forward to talking to you all. that technology should work for people. a

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