those profit all over the dash. those has profit through the woman machine, machinery, l. c. harris. and boeing a 2 of the manufacturers that we had been speaking about according for diverse students from and we, we refused to be up to. we want to register our fusion to be involved to be implicated in the genocide taking place and guns will never go is taken to publishing messages of support from his students and parents to social media. as a u. k. national is ability to remain in the u. s. is directly tied to his status at the school, the ph. d student saves, he deserves a fair investigation before he is effectively deported. i don't think it's a fact punishment. i think. i think even i'm not there would be given that i'm g process kind of investigation, i've done nothing even close to that. i wasn't even violent. and i think at the very least, i those as fast as the g process investigation impulse and meet

a year, which we have going to have a legally binding agreement with the memorandum of agreement that may affect the discipline must be blogging. kronos also, maureen, that as well. and fundamentally i have no regret. i've done my fingerprint. i maintain that i've done nothing wrong, but exercise my sized them in right in a time to register my disapproval and my rights, indignation. all which in this i taken place? well, if you like to find out more about this story or anything else they can do to accounts or websites all t dot com, always good to have you with a 0. now it's the international that will be back to expensive or in just a few minutes. the,

[000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm theater. lebeau . we are told joe biden is frustrated by israel. the white house is reportedly realizing that it may be of able to prevent a regional war in the middle east. meanwhile, thousands tens of thousands are being killed. why is the west so indifference to diplomacy? the cross hockey in the middle east?

i'm joined by my guess, marla osman and b wrote. she's an assistant professor at the lebanese international university and a political commentator also in lebanon. we have professor, so i didn't. he is an associate professor and canada research chair in the history of the modern, middle east, at the university of british columbia. and in rome, we cross though ramada rivera. she is an author and managing editor of the palestine chronicle. alright. crossed by pearl isn't the fact that means we can jump anytime you want. okay, professor, if i go to you for a subsidy, and if i can go to you 1st here i have titled this program apocalypse may be is that hyper bully on my part. as well, given what we are seeing on the ground or the chances of a region of the war and possibly a war that actually expands beyond the region is increasing. so there's definitely a reasonable assumption that if it's free, it is not actually the restraint properly. if we don't see

a change in the approach of the us administration towards is reactions of us own policy in the region. given the fact that iran is also now has struck back retaliated for the attacks that is being as committed against iran. we are seeing a graduate escalation that's kind of not accelerating or quantum leaps that have happened in the past 3 weeks. at the same time go, it's still not clear that we are heading there soon. so it may be an apocalypse, but maybe not, no matter what it's it seems that everybody in the region we'd like to avoid a greater conflict with the exception obviously of israel. israel is choosing these fights with its neighbors and it's common eating. we had that of a group of assassinations, of course, the designation of uh, as well as leadership and intrusion into lebanese of sovereignty. israel wants this, but it wouldn't be able to do this. if the united states wasn't 100 percent. what

did joe biden say? totally, totally, totally behind israel, without the united states. we would not be seeing this happening. go ahead. you know, it wouldn't be seeing this happening either and without also the help of the need to and special colonizers that were once the colonizers and still lower like friends, and even k as well for, and not only supporting diplomatically the scientist entity, but they're also supplying it with the needed weapons to the estimate, gaza and now the submit button on an s for the genocide. over until 11 on i, i was reading a statement by the 11 use ministry of health. and the minister was saying that since october 8, the number of martyred civilians and even on have been more than $1600.00, including hundreds of children and hundreds of women and the number of injured has surpassed 9000. and he was during his statement, he was saying that he was actually engaging as the reports that are coming from sign is israel cleaning, but now hospital was 11 on our housing weapons. this is age predicts for design is the entity to start, also targeting hospitals in the suburbs of

a and then in the south as well. so this is escalating pretty fast. they must model . i mean, what you just said here is as america, what you just said is very reminiscent of what we heard about the genocide in gaza . hospitals mosque schools. this is a replay. this is a replay of what they did in gaza. they're attempting to do in lab and on particularly in bay route right now. do you agree with that? yeah, of course they are trying to do this. they have been doing this over the past week theater because the 4 level wave of attacks that happened in decline south lovenox was so just meeting to of to a point that it was taking out families. 12 members, 17 members in the same house, especially those were displaced from the south to the because it was also a bond, and they're safe houses, and it was all civilians. there were no fighters there, and that's what we saw in casa and now are seeing targets in south lebanon and south the southern, some of paid with. and usually the high other, are you,

the spokesperson of the violence really entity keeps at actually the sweets funding people to stay away 500 meters from certain areas to be stricken. but this morning, up until an hour ago, there were hits on the southern. something's a vineyard wood without any a pre, a posts or pre tweed spite of hire today, or anyone else, which means that people were trying to get some stuff out of their houses and they might have been either killed or injured because of these attacks without any prior for that, but that's what you're telling me. i understand what you're telling us. this is terrorism, but it's nothing short of just terrorism. it's $1.00 oh, $1.00 terrorism and it does not now it's starting to decades ago. i'm not going to go there, but it started against living on specifically 2 weeks ago with beach scandal of the tears, the talk of peters and walkie talkies and follow through with these attacks against . well maybe they only, they only i'm sorry for that. that is that 11 on is the graveyard of these kind of expeditions. and i think that's all i do. see, let me, let me, let me go on. let me go to run over. i'm on the. it's interesting that, um uh,

more way use the word colonizers, do people in the region understand that when joe biden says the g 7 says, i mean latrice, and then i mean of all what group that you could mention, the former colonial power it's, it's really these people, they would be there, so tone, deaf to history, go ahead and roam the 1st of all, there is of course, a property of representation. it says that all institutions are north representative of anybody. these g 7 is not for preventative and preventative of what the new award order is the same way the united states security council is not representative of what the new work is. and these is why they are allowing you to well, to continue with its genocide of war for one year now and with terrorist attacks. and what my, what was say about the warnings of, by these way, the army we've seen that time and they gave him power to send in gaza. sometimes

they also trick the population of the city them population. they sent messages to a certain area in a certain neighborhood, and then they at talk and target, for example, be a power level root in the same neighborhood. so they play districts with the cdn populations is and not only terriers and bus routes. so as he becomes a and this is possible with the complete cd, of course, this country of the colonizing powers that she mentioned, but also with the complicity of the media. this is very important. this is will and the united states are allowed to life openly. we've, we've heard so much into rhetoric about once he gets these 512 piece. the truth is on the ground that the opposite is true and the media is come from well and the media is not reporting that mis routed before he was murdered, had agreed to a 21 day ceasefire. the media is not telling anybody that let me go back to the professor. it's, it's very interesting to me is,

is netanyahu trying to repeat of the 67 war solving all of israel's problems simultaneously because that's what it looks like to me go ahead. i was just pointing out that before coming on your show that some people who are a bit worried about a possible for 67 the feet after the string of attacks that the whole conducted against the resistance another not. but as a matter of fact, in 2024, it was uh, is really airports that were gone by around and not easily and bombing, airports in egypt. so if this is planned, it's certainly not going the way he wanted. in fact, given the last few events which included the invasions that dude mentioned the, encourages and to 11 on, you may be repeating 2006 instead of repeating 1967. so uh, you know, and he even changed his wardrobe. he switched from his, his uh, you know, suit and tie back into his block as a means of probably also deceiving and be going his own population and pretending

to be in mourning with those who died on the, on the, on the front or killed by the resistance so now is certainly trying to, uh, uh, what i would say is turn around the strategic defeat of october 7. he's trying to do it by expanding the war. and he started to choose that when he assassinated. i say it has something that's what i law and other um uh you know, leaving members as well. but in fact it looks like up until now the impact of those attacks has not seep through to the bathroom for you. so the ability of hezbollah for controlling command has not so far been debilitated. and on top of that, the attack by iran has further probably busy themselves. busy now with future plans to you know, uh, strike back. so if it's the $67.00 scenario as much as we have to be concerned about the, you know, non stop a genocide thing does uh, be,

uh, you know, uh, kind of going through the military superiority and yeah, we have yet to see anything close to a not, not simply a decisive defeat. an indecisive defeat hasn't. sorry, a decisive victory for this reason. we haven't even seen it in decisive victory. denise, it more while you're, you're in be root. um, what is the morale and what is the, what is the attitude towards has blood, is we this conflict to large and gets larger and larger? it is very interesting to watch peter 1st time when the people have lost basically everything their lives, their loved ones, and possibly their homes and their businesses. and yet they say that we will only retain return dignified when beach resistance is victorious, and they have been cheering at the capabilities of customer and, and maybe putting an end to the infiltration towards some of these lands that started on october 1st and has been going on ever since they have been trying from different villages in your own. and i said one in

a they see and they have been incurring a lot of that's how the doctors have been taking these commanders and these fighters from the battlefield. and they have been hit while also trying to flee, which has made issues, attempt to infiltrate into 11 on any responsibility at the moment. which brings out what the professor was saying about the house as well as command and control center is not affected by the assassinations of the leadership, the political leadership and the combative leadership, which means that the institution it's still valid, is still capable. it is hurting, at the same time the theatre we have seen also besides being fired from the non, from the south and into enter a parts of occupying the palestine hurting the palestinian hurting the is really entity industry facilities. instead of also targeting simply use the same way that is robust doing they still refuse to target any stuff. there's at the moment given the, the possibility that israel might escalate it even further against the readings. that tells you a lot about these really strategy. but it's failing both at the border and, and people bergman's campaigns. but what is interesting, peter,

as well as seeing that the, as i'm as entity also to speak conducting at conducted air strikes against threat and multiple areas on the cost of mine and, and on the inside and the, the mosque is the capital, the steering capital also targeted the capital, and now we have our hearing reports this week that they might be targeting the border between lebanon sererra because they were saying that this warner is allowing weapons to enter into us for months by defective. it's a civilian border in 1000. so keep the bedding but it's also a border where people trying to escape, so they're, they, they want to make sure that there is no escape. you're all right, i'm going to jump in here, right? and i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a quick break, and after that break, we'll continue our discussion on events unfolding in the middle east. stay with the

same rom. just don't need to shape house because the application and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support, we choose to look so common ground, the bus pulls the sun we are sitting before break when nor move south with a native is as rich as it is. but they both absolutely stunning landscape flowing rivers, cliff face. gorgeous and forest. for the real attraction here is the honey, and that creates a real force all over russia, the or the welcome back across. ok, we're all things are considered. i'm peter the bill to mind you were discussing

events unfolding in the middle east. the . okay, let's go back to room room and i, i'm, i suppose all of us and many of our viewers watch some of the speeches that were made at the security council at the united nations on wednesday. and it's interesting, and some of those speeches were an impassioned that and one individual insulted the institution from beginning to end and its uh, the people in the hall itself. but it's in watching those debates. you can't escape the conclusion that international law, international humanitarian law is just absolutely collapsed and it's only because the west allowed it to happen. go ahead, enroll the absolutely. first of all, we have to say that international law, for, in the way the system worse is something that was decided from the west,

from court on your powers at the assets the, the whole system was decided by them and it towards only for them. and there is something that, you know, the were on golf now, the were on lebanon, are showing is exactly doctor the international law is like an empty box in a sense, because it's not applied and smooth, applicable to certain powers that needs to be defended. and you know, we've seen as well insulting the institution with facts of the ground and it didn't start to yesterday. it did start on october 7, 2023. we've seen so many resolutions completely disregarded by, as well as throughout the years without any accountability of for uh, televisions we've seen as well. now escalating and you know, um, um, recently un secretary general antonio terrace was as lived as pip. so didn't move

without the band of tone is really territory and, you know, do you and us books person at the diaries was very side and saying all of the leave another talk. can you imagine if this came from china, this came from russia. it would've been over, you know, the media as the biggest scandal of our time. but everything, even though it's in the system, wasn't able, i don't say to stop the war to bring too many tegan to, to godaddy's money, $78.00 to gaza at, to bring met defense, vaccinations and so on to a population to a seed be there and population that is struggling with the genocide, so really be complete. you know, these institutions are completely power this. yeah, well i look forward to the secretaries. they blinking in a orange jumpsuit one day for his lying about the uh, the fact that um is real is blocking 8 in 2 guys. so let me go back to the

professor, professor, you know, one of the, it's already been mentioned, mar was already into the i mentioned how the media is treated of these events over the last year, particularly over the last particular few weeks, is that you know what you know, well, a ceasefire is necessary, we all want to cease fire and all that. and, and, you know, engaging behind the scenes with around, i'm thinking about last april, you know, trying to calibrate a response to what these really said and attacking the consulate in damascus. and everybody seems to, you know, ok, we can do this which try to calibrate all of this and then the, and then you just turn around and then it just israel that says no ceasefire whatsoever. i mean, i can't, it's, it's hard for me to compare how shameful to bite into ministration is acting. they get, they've, they're turned into false left, right, and center. go ahead, professor. let me 1st clarify a few things for further viewers. i think because smart today is a word that's almost like democracy or freedom or international law, good for everybody. so that'd be by the story. and people can get confused. they

can say, oh, you know what everyone wants to see is fine. so let's 1st clarify that both time us and has molar from the very beginning. i've been calling for a permanent ceasefire. they've been calling for an end to all of us teletubbies. and this is the kind of ceasefire in addition to an exchange of prisoners. in addition to the withdrawal of israeli troops from occupied era, blan, all of these demands are within international law. so none of these demands are radical. none of them are extreme. and at the same time, it's not only is real, that i'd refuse the ceasefire. it's, as you've mentioned, the united states as consistently i would call, you know, use the, it's media and public presence to actually not just water down to confuse and mislead. yes public. so they constantly blame the other side for refusing as these

far so, and this brings me to resolution 17 o one. i think we have to talk a little bit about that because we may expect this to become the primary a band or under which a potential diplomatic solution takes place. so let me just say if anyone has read 17 o one, they will know that this resolution, in fact, demands, the people have loved and on. and those powers that resists it's very occupation withdrawn to the north of dallas on the river. it makes all sorts of demands on loving on. it almost makes no demand on this region. at the same time, even even though that is the case is lebanese officials have consistently said they are willing to actually accept 1701. it's easily and that's been violated. thing 1701 through thousands of aerospace violations. why don't before october so and there are no demands in 17. 0 one's for is we have to actually, you know, this arm it's, um,

so what i'm trying to say is even what the international consensus is. 17 o one, which is extremely unfair to 11 on. it's still being refused by is reading and only, and until there is a clear, bare handed approach that we're going to see possibly some pressure being applied to the professors. but i, you know, i, i, it's my job to be contrary and, you know, consensus, how do we get there? i mean, you know, we, we've had resolutions in the united nations. yeah. and then the united states just says no and, and, and how, how do we get a consensus there is we would have to experience some kind of strategic defeat to have a consensus. don't you agree? well, that's a good point. yes. generally speaking is we would have to experience some major defeat. although under the current administration in this room, it looks like the big one are they don't seem to have a long term strategy. they're really just arguing an attempt to destroy everything around. they have to preserve themselves so that might be actually suicide them.

but also like the, uh, the maybe we can, you know, uh, bring the discussion into a place of potential. um, disagreement. i do think that the other power, so let's, let's put the veto point aside because ultimately, the things that happened to the security council in happened after the powerful states kind of come to some understanding amongst themselves or lack of such an understanding. i am personally a little bit disappointed with, for example, in china's position that it's not actually exerting enough diplomatic, a force or diplomatic pressure, let's say as much as i appreciate some of the bricks positions. they generally continue to somehow try to play a balance rolled. so they're always, you know, conducting is really but always condemning fat experience for under this that i don't see, i see some, some level of, of course of action and they go through a criminal court. but not enough. in my view i,

i was about the pressure i absolutely agree with you. give me 11, go ahead point. go ahead. i don't sound like on keeping the out of one away is actually out of government and out of states that the bare minimum, whether it's jordan or egypt, which actually have the order is for instance, there is no reason under international otherwise for egypt not to open itself, i thought that this is a border between pa, the spot in egypt because it has nothing to do with it. i mean, there may be some consequences in the short run. definitely, surely, the diction army is more likely to be presumably able to resist that than the i'm and these are the lebanese or the kind of thing is. so the lack of enough at a government pressure, because i say this because ultimately the united states is interested in prolonging the war if it can re consolidate this position in the region. so it wants to have its good, can use it. it doesn't want a large dig, landlord, you're absolutely right. i mean it, we bought it reminds me and we go tomorrow,

you know, con to lisa rice. so famously said, you know, this is the birth pangs of a new middle east. and as marie now a rabbani said on this program earlier this week and that turn it into it turns into a messy abortion. but the professor is absolutely right. this is so solving all problem simultaneously. the bush administration's author was doing that and it failed. and now we have the kind of a hollow doubt, a bite, the ministration attempting the same thing. and it will fail to go ahead moment. yeah, imagine and imagine peter it and failing. but at this time, also you have more players being engaging in this war, like yemen, and, and iraq and syria and lebanon. and most probably, syria is, it's here. i decided to open the golan heights. front base rule is a set to back a years, not only months in the way that strategy has been failing in the region. i mean, we have seen how the iron room was not working out. the spring shot was not working . we also how the $200.00 plus, listed themselves were lending everywhere. sirens from the river to the seed was

the 1st time, was the sirens at sounding an occupied sound assigned rep, seen also the capability of using new ballistic themselves in yemen, sending or some of the stick massage to at a lot of basically putting it out of service and iraq also sending drones and what, what the professor was saying concerning the material efforts that was not enough by the arab states. there's also been defensive efforts. i mean, they weren't allowed at iran to defend itself by throwing the massages because we saw edge jordan frontage or set some of the massages. what they allow is real to use their space to bumps syria to go by a certain areas also in iraq. and they also are allowed to touch base on the board of between syria and joining to operate specified that is an occupation. so there's also this that the, the people in the south region have also responsibility now to hold their origins responsible for the genocide that is spinning right now over into 11 on. so we've seen a lot of changes in strategy, but we will also see a lot of changes in politics because i don't think that the people's works will

accept this kind of a in the buying status and facing this genocidal entity. and at the same time, i think that the nicest americans very busy with its upcoming elections and they don't want to see any more estimating over a floors in the region that going to potentially go into a full blown world porch. but at the same time, this has to end, it cannot continue into more generations of bloodshed whether 11 on dollar sign, syria or elsewhere. and sinus israel has been, according to the international law, recognized as a supplemental in apartheid regime. and this needs to end and the only way apparently this is going to end is with the involvement of more f funds from the axes of resistance to make israel bowels step. okay, let me, let me give the last word to romano of 40 seconds. what is the state of the resistance right now? as we speak? i think that's for 4 or 5 days is what we felt that each had re conquered. we gained determined over the region. honestly,

from the end of the point of view, that was a city and they and now this is, you do not re game determined by assessing aging a leader or a leadership. you do not sweep game determines with the cyber tear at talk, targeting the civilian pollution of a country, a bunch d. what happened in the last few days really showed that as well, not only did not regained that determines the gloves clearly on october 7th, but it is, you know, months worth see. okay, and i know there we have run out of time. we have to go here, i want to thank my guess in lebanon and in rome. and of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time remember across

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oh you on van dyke. mm okay. well which is waking up for the speech to start. we still don't have the sound connected. this of course comes that there are rising tensions across the region as a, as well intensifies its attacks on nothing on the and uh we see towns where time coming from all sides. we waiting for the sound on the connection and we'll take you straight that live to listen then to what the radian supreme leader has to say. good news, lee. good. oh. * * okay,