sell points in that, that fine to do well, as we can see from this council meeting, that's fine to do everything possible to steer the blame away from the actual culprits. like to remind you of that. denmark and sweden, countries in that area where the bombing took place, germany as we have already completed their investigation and all they could sell the world, was the fact that it was indeed a bombing. but who was the culprit was, or anything like that. uh that was uh, unknown berlin. uh, it was not really provided russia was any well adequate information regarding this sits arest act and, and let's here, let's get into bed as you want more time one year, susan, consciously or not germany, is acting as a spoiler blocking any steps by the international community towards establishing the circumstances of the disruption of the north streams and punishing its customers and the destruction of the gas pipelines as had germany's economic interest. most directly to this. in these conditions,

berlin's impotence instability finally puts an end to any emissions and claims to a global roll roll. se, or there are many unknowns in this case, and what russia one sir, is to find out exactly what happened. of course, none of these, the hollywood scenarios are working in this case, and most of the adequate world in this case can see a right through to visit the let's finish up and going a why classes with please have her up to it as hundreds protested against illegal mining in the west african country and the demonstrates us upon providing for 3 days also tawanda new release, 50 full access to this change, or in previous protests. most of those have taken to the streets all, no clean advice to students smells. they accuse the government of probation in equal gold, mining, pollute environment, moved into health issues. it's really become a hot topic in the country, especially in the lead up to national elections. and those will be in the system,

but not as optimism says on on next possible to the middle east, the death of dependency and of the eclipse. now the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the hello and welcome to cross ok. we're all things are considered. i'm theater.

lavelle, we are told, joe biden is frustrated by israel. the white house is reportedly realizing that it may be of able to prevent original war in the middle east. meanwhile, thousands tens of thousands are being killed. why is the west so indifference to diplomacy? the cross hockey in the middle east. i'm joined by my guess. marla osmond and be rude. she's an assistant professor at the lebanese international university and a political commentator also in lebanon. we have professor seth i d. he is an associate professor and canada research chair in the history of the modern, middle east, at the university of british columbia. and in rome, we cross though ramada rivera. she is an author and managing editor of the palestine chronicle. alright, cross black roles. and in fact, that means we can jump anytime you want. okay, professor if i go to a stop again,

if i can go to you 1st here i have titled this program apocalypse maybe is that hyper bully on my part as well, given what we are seeing on the ground are the chances of a region of the war and possibly a war that actually expands beyond the region is increasing. so there's definitely a reasonable assumption that if it's free, it is not actually the restraint properly. if we don't see a change in the approach of the us administration towards israel actions of us own policy in the region, given the fact that iran is also now has struck back retaliated for the attacks that is being as committed against iran. we are seeing a graduate escalation that's kind of not accelerating or quantum leaps that have happened in the past 3 weeks at the same time. so it's still not clear that we are heading there soon. so it may be an apocalypse, but maybe not, no matter what it's it seems that everybody in the region we'd like to avoid

a greater conflict with the exception obviously of israel. israel is choosing these fights with its neighbors and it's common eating. we had that of a group of assassinations, of course, the designation of uh, as well as leadership and intrusion into lebanese, the sovereignty. israel wants this, but it wouldn't be able to do this. if the united states was 100 percent. what did joe biden say? totally, totally, totally behind israel, without the united states. we would not be seeing this happening. go ahead. you know, it wouldn't be seeing this happening either. and without also the help of the nato and special colonizers that were once the colonizers and still lower, like friends, and even k, as well for, and not only supporting diplomatically the as line has the entity, but they are also supplying it with the needed weapons to the estimate, gaza and now the estimates i've been on an estimate of the genocide over until 11 on i, i was reading a statement by the 11 use ministry of health. and the minister was saying that since october 8,

the number of martyred civilians. and even on have been more than 1600, including hundreds of children and hundreds of women, and the number of injured has surpassed 9000. and he was during his statement, he was saying that he was actually indicating the reports that are coming from sign is this ro, cleaning that no hospital was 11 on our housing weapons. this is age predicts for design is the entity to start, also targeting hospitals in the suburbs of a and then in the south as well. so this is escalating pretty fast. they must model on the right. you're just saying here is as america, what you just said is very reminiscent of what we heard about the jet aside in gaza . hospitals, mosque schools. this is a replay. this is a replay of what they did in gaza. they're attempting to do in lab. and on particularly in bay route right now, do you agree with that? yeah, of course they are trying to do this. they have been doing this over the past week theater because the for a level wave of attacks that happened in decline south lovenox was so just meeting

to effect to the point that it was taking out families. 12 number, 17 members and the st. pounds. especially those were displaced from the south to the because it was also a bond, and they're safe houses, and it was all civilians. there were no fighters there, and that's what we saw in casa and now are seeing targets in south club and south. the southern suburbs will fade with and usually the high other are you the spokesperson of the violence really entity keeps at actually the sweep sending people to stay away 500 meters from certain areas to be stricken. but this morning, up until an hour ago there were hits on the southern southern surveyed with, without any, a breach of posts or pre tweed, spite of hire bay or anyone else. which means that people were trying to get some stuff out of their houses. and they might have been either killed or injured because of these attacks without any prior for that. but that's what you're telling me. i understand what you're telling us. this is terrorism, but it's nothing short of just terrorism. it's $1.00 oh, $1.00 terrorism. and it does not now it's starting to decades ago. i'm not going to go there. but it started against living on,

specifically 2 weeks ago with beach scandal of the tears, the talk of peters and walkie talkies and follow through with these attacks against . well maybe they only they only i'm sorry for that. that is, that living on is the graveyard of these kind of expeditions, and i think that's all i do. see, let me, let me, let me go to run over mama. it's interesting that, um uh, mar way use the word colonizers. do people in the region understand that when joe biden says the g 7 says, i mean latrice, and then i mean of all what grouping you could mention the former colonial powers, it's really these people, they would be there. so tone, deaf to history, go ahead and room the 1st of all, there is of course appropriate of representation. it seems at all institutions on north representatives. anybody these g 7 is not for preventative and preventative

of what the new award order is the same way the united states security council is not representative of what the new work is. and these is why they are allowing, as well to continue with its genocide of war for one year now and with terrorist attacks. and what my, what will say about the warnings of, by these way, the army we've seen that time and again in palestine in gaza. sometimes they also trick that population to see them population, they sent messages to a certain area in a certain neighborhood, and then they talk and target for example, be a power level root in the same neighborhood. so they play these tricks with the cd and populations. events and not only terriers and bus routes. so as he becomes a and this is possible with the complete cd, of course, this country if the colonizing powers that she mentioned, but also with the complicity of the media. this is very important. this is will, and the united states are allowed to life. hopefully we've,

we've heard so much into rhetoric about wanting to see if i want to be. the truth is on the ground that the opposite is true and the media is come from well and the media is not reporting this route before he was murdered. had agreed to a 21 day ceased by. the media is not telling anybody that let me go back to the professor. it's, it's very interesting to me is, is netanyahu trying to repeat of a 67 war solving all of israel's problems simultaneously because that's what it looks like to me go ahead. i was just pointing out that before coming on your show that some people who are a bit worried about a possible for 67 the feet after the string of attacks that the whole conducted against the resistance another not. but as a matter of fact, in 2024, it was a is really airports that were gone by around and not easily and bombing, airports in egypt. so if this is as planned, it's certainly not going the way he wanted. in fact,

given the last few events which included the invasions that dude mentioned the, encourages it's 11 on, you may be repeating 2006 instead of repeating 1967. so, you know, and he even changed as wardrobe. he switched from his as uh, you know, suit and tie back into his block as a means of probably also deceiving and be going his own population and pretending to be in mourning with those who died on the, on the, on the front board, killed by the resistance so now is certainly trying to, uh, uh, what i would say is turn around the strategic defeat of october 7. he's trying to do it by expanding the war. and he started to you chief, that when he assassinated, i say it has something that's what a lot and other, um, uh, you know, leaving members of his beloved. but in fact, it looks like up until now the impact of those attacks has not seep through to the bathroom for you. so the ability of hezbollah for controlling command has not so

far been debilitated. and on top of that, the attack while you're on as further probably busy themselves busy now with future plans to uh, you know, uh, strike back. so if it's the $67.00 scenario as much as we have to be concerned about the, you know, non stop a genocide thing does uh, be, uh, you know, you kind of go through the military superiority and yeah, we have yet to see anything close to a not, not simply a decisive defeat, an indecisive defeat. hasn't that story? a decisive victory for this reason. we haven't even seen it in decisive victory. denise, it more while you're, you're in be root. um, what is the morale and what is the? what is the attitude towards has blood, is we this conflict to large and gets larger and larger? it is very interesting to watch peter at 1st time when the people have lost basically everything their lives, their loved ones,

and possibly their homes and their businesses. and yet they say that we will only retain return dignified when beach resistance is victorious, and they have been cheering, and the capabilities of trust will not. and, and maybe putting an end to the infiltration towards lebanese lands. uh that started on october 1st and has been going on ever since they have been trying from different villages in your own. and i said one in a day 6 and they have been incurring a lot of a that's headquarters. have been taking these uh commanders and these fighters from the battlefield and they have been hit while also trying to flee, which has made issues, attempt to infiltrate at 11 on any responsibility at the moment. which brings out what the professor was saying about how as well as command and control center is not affected by the assassinations of the leadership. the political leadership and the combat need to ship, which means that the institution is still valid, is still capable. it is hurting, and at the same time that peter,

we have seen also besides being fired from the been on from the south and into an inner parts of occupied the palestine hurting the palestinian hurting b is rarely entity 23 facilities. instead of also targeting somebody, use the same way that is what was doing, they still refused to target any stuff. there's at the moment, given the a, the possibility that israel might escalate it even further against the readings. that tells you a lot about these really strategy, but it's failing both at the border and, and people boardman campaigns. but what is interesting, peter, as well as seeing that the assignments entity also this be conducting at conducted air, strikes against the threat and multiple areas on the course of mine and, and on the inside. indeed, the mask is the capital, the syrian capital also targeted the capital. and now we have our hearing reports this week that they might be targeting the border between 11 on answer it because they were saying that this warner is allowing weapons to enter into us for lunch spot defective. it's a civilian border in 1000. so keep this building, but it's also a border where people trying to escape, so they're, they, they might want to make sure that there is no escape. you're all right,

i'm going to jump in here with this thing. i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a quick break, and after that break, we'll continue our discussion on events unfolding in the middle east. stay with the same rom, just don't have to shape house

and engagement equals the trail. when so many find themselves will support. we choose to look for common ground, the the welcome back to the cross walk where all things are considered. i'm peter little to mind you were discussing events unfolding in the middle east. the okay, let's go back to room room and i, i'm, i suppose all of us and many of our viewers watch some of the speeches that were made at the security council at the united nations on wednesday. and it's interesting that some of those speeches were an impassioned, that, and one individual insulted the institution from beginning to end, and its uh, the people in the hall itself. but it's in watching those debates. you can't

escape the conclusion that international law international humanitarian law has just absolutely collapsed and it's only because the west allowed it to happen. go ahead and wrote the absolutely, 1st of all, we have to say that international law for, in the way the system worse is something that was decided from the west, from court on your powers at the assets the, the old system was decided by them and it towards only for them, and there is something that you know, the were on golf now the were on lebanon. are showing is exactly that. the international law is like an empty box in a sense, because it's not applied and smooth, applicable to certain powers that needs to be defended. and you know, we've seen as well insulting the institution with facts of the ground and it didn't start to yesterday. it didn't start on october 7, 2020 we, we've seen so many resolutions completely disregarded by,

as well as throughout the years without any accountability of for uh to that means we've seen as well. now escalating and you know, um, recently you and secretary general antonio terrace was as lived as pitt. so didn't move without having to spend a film is really territory. and you know, the, you and us books person at the diaries was very side and saying, all of the leave another talk. can you imagine if this came from china, this came from russia. it would've been over, you know, the media as the biggest scandal of our time. but everything is allowed in the system wasn't able. i don't say to stop the war to bring too many tegan, still to godaddy's money, 78 to gaza. a to bring met defense, vaccinations, and so on to a population to be there and population that is struggling with the genocide. so

really be complete. you know, these institutions are completely power this. yeah, well i look forward to the secretaries. they blinking in a orange jumpsuit one day for his lying about the uh, the fact that, um, israel is blocking 8 in 2 guys. so let me go back to the professor, professor, you know, one of the, it's already been mentioned, mar was already into the i mentioned how the media is treated of these events over the last year, particularly for the last particular few weeks, is that you know what you know, well, a ceasefire is necessary, we all want to cease fire and all that. and, and, you know, engaging behind the scenes with a ran, i'm thinking about last april, you know, trying to calibrate a response to what these really said and attacking the consulate in damascus. and everybody seems to know, okay, we can do this which try to calibrate all of this and then the and then you just turn around and then it just israel that says no ceasefire whatsoever. i mean, i can't, it's,

it's hard for me to compare how shameful to bite into ministration is acting. they get, they've, they're turned into false left, right, and center. go ahead professor. well, let me 1st clarify a few things for further viewers. i think because the smart today is a word that's almost like democracy or create a more international law. good for everybody. and that'd be by the story. and people can get confused. they can say, oh, you know what everyone wants to see is fine. so let's 1st clarify that both time us and has molar from the very beginning. i've been calling for a permanent ceasefire. they've been calling for an end to all of us teletubbies. and this is the kind of ceasefire in addition to an exchange of prisoners. in addition to the withdrawal of israeli troops from occupied era, blan, all of these demands are within international law. so none of these demands are radical. none of them are extreme. and at the same time, it's not only is real, that i'd refuse the ceasefire. it's, as you mentioned,

the united states has consistently, i would call, you know, use the, it's media and public presence to actually not just to water down to confuse and mislead. yes public. so they constantly blame the other side for refusing as these far so, and this brings me to resolution 17 o one. i think we have to talk a little bit about that because we may expect this to become the primary a band or under which a potential diplomatic solution takes place. so let me just say, if anyone has read 17 o one, they will know that this resolution, in fact, demands the people of lebanon. and those powers that resists is ready occupation. withdraw to the north of dallas on the river. it makes all sorts of demands on loving on. it almost makes no demand on these read them at the same time, even even though that is the case is lebanese officials have consistently said they

are willing to actually accept $17.00 oh $1.00. it's easy and that's been violated . thing 1701 through thousands of uh, airspace violations one before october. so then there are no demands in 17. 0 one for is we have to actually, you know, this arm it's, um, so what i'm trying to say is even what the international consensus is. 17 o one, which is extremely unfair to 11 on. it's still being refused by is reading and only, and until there is a clear, bare handed approach that we're going to see possibly some pressure being applied with professors i, you know, i, i, it's my job to be contrary and you know, consensus, how do we get there, i mean, you know, we, we've had resolutions in the united nations. yeah. and then the united states just says, no and, and, and how, how do we get it consensus or is we would have to experience some kind of strategic defeat to have that consensus. don't you agree? well, that's a good point. yes. generally speaking,

as we would have to experience some major defeat, although under the current administration in this room, it looks like the they don't have, they don't seem to have a long term strategy. they're really just arguing. um, an attempt to destroy everything around, they have to preserve themselves. so that might be actually suicide them. but also like the, uh, the maybe we can, you know, uh, bring the discussion into a place of potential um, disagreement. i do think that the other power, so let's, let's put the veto point aside because ultimately, the things that happened to the security council on happened after the powerful states kind of come to some understanding amongst themselves or lack of such an understanding. i am personally a little bit disappointed with, for example, in china's position that it's not actually exerting enough diplomatic, a force or diplomatic pressure, let's say as much as i appreciate some of the bricks positions. they generally

continue to somehow try to play a balance rolled. so they're always, you know, conducting is really but always condemning found experience for under this that i don't see. i see some, some level of, of course of action and they can go through a criminal court. but not enough. in my view i, i was in my pressure and i absolutely agree with you. give me 11, go ahead point. go ahead. i don't sound like on keeping the out of one away is actually out of government and out of states that the bare minimum, whether it's jordan or egypt, which actually have the sports because there is no reason under international otherwise for egypt not to open itself. i swore that this is a border between pa, the spot in egypt because it has nothing to do with it. i mean, there may be some consequences in the short run. definitely, surely, the diction army is more likely to be presumably able to resist that than the i'm and these are the lebanese or the palestinians. so the lack of enough at a government pressure,

because i say this because ultimately the united states is interested in prolonging the war if it can re consolidate its position in the region. so it wants to have its k can use it. it doesn't want a large dig, landlord, you're absolutely right. i mean it, we bought it reminds me and we go tomorrow, you know, con to lisa rice. uh, famously said, you know, this is the birth pains up in new middle east. and as we know, a rabbani said on this program earlier this week and that turn it into it turns into a messy abortion. but the professor is absolutely right. this is so solving all problem simultaneously. the bush administration thought that was doing that and it failed. and now we have the kind of a hollow doubt, a bite, the ministration attempting the same thing, and it will fail to go ahead moment. yeah, imagine and imagine peter and, and feeling. but at this time, also you have more players being engaging in this war, like yemen and iraq and syria and lebanon. and most probably, syria, it's, it's, you're a decides to open the golan heights front base rule is a set to back

a years, not only months in the way that strategy has been failing in the region. i mean, we have seen how the iron don't was not working out. the spring shot was not working now. so how the $200.00 plus listed themselves were lending everywhere. sirens from the river to the seed was the 1st time. was the sirens at sounding and uh, occupied, found a sign rep seen also the capability of, of using new ballistic themselves in yemen, sunday. or some of the stick massage to at a lot of basically putting it out of service and iraq, also sending drones and what, what the professor was saying concerning the material efforts that was not enough by the arab states. there's also the defensive efforts. i mean, they weren't allowed at iran to defend itself by throwing the massages because we saw jordan in front of your set. some of them, it sounds what they allow is real to use. there is based upon syria to go by a certain areas also in iraq and they also are allowed to touch base on the board

of between syria and joining to operate specified that is an occupation. so there's also this that the peoples of the region have also responsibility now to hold their origins responsible for the genocide that is spinning right now over into 11 on. so we've seen a lot of changes in strategy, but we will also see a lot of changes in politics because i don't think that the people's work will accept this kind of a in the buying status and facing this genocide, the entity in, at the same time i think that the nicest americans very busy with its upcoming elections and they don't want to see any more estimating over a force in the region that going to potentially go into a full blown world porch. but at the same time, this has to end. it cannot continue into more generations of bloodshed, whether 11 on the sign, syria or elsewhere, and sinus israel has been, according to the international law, recognized as a supplemental in apartheid regime. and this needs to end. and the only way, apparently this is going to end is with the involvement of more f funds from the excess of resistance to make israel bowel sept. okay,

let me let me give the last word to romano of 40 seconds. what is the state of the resistance right now as we speak? and i think that for 4 or 5 days is what we felt that each had a re concord we gained determined over the region. honestly, from the end of the point of view, that was a silly and they and now this is you do not regained determined by assessing aging a leader or a leadership you do not redeem determines with the cyber tear at talk, targeting the civilian population of the country a bunch d, what's happened in the last few days really showed that as well. not only did not regained that determines get less clearly on october 7th, but it is, you know, much more see, okay, i know there we have run out of time. we have to go here. i want to thank my guess in lebanon and roll, man, of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time,

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