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finally retaliated for the gaza genocide. the tap around this as a nation of palestine is chief negotiator attacks on their radiant diplomats and the killing of thousands and babies to a res iconic, lebanese resistance need to how side less route i would circle. genocide, jo, all the cause. tyra's, now presiding over millions, display skilled a wounded, mostly women and children right across this region. i'm joined now from rome by alice to cook. you k, diplomat in full that you foreign policy chief advisor. he's a founder and director of the baby base complex for him and all of the resistance, the essence of the as the mr. evolution. thank you so much alice of joining us again. it's been a while and that's happened in the year as you're on the going on the route. i think in the beginning of this year, you can see from the headlines. is there any one of go story? and that's a do by based a gulf. the news you run attacks that israel vfc, the japanese paper thing, is real steps up a tax on the wrong proxies as if they're all just their own proxies everywhere. i

guess 1st your take on whether there is down. there's no real us to tyrants. they said, the largest fleet, the united states has in this area and then at least in the mediterranean, didn't seem to scare you wrong. no, i think that was done. would have been a mistake. i don't think there's been a lot of talk about it wrong being frightened or scared or does to the porcelain bass. in fact, it was a calculated decision maybe or in the wrong, by the leadership of this. it would not want to cause a regional white will big war, in other words, in the region, but for all sorts of reasons. i mean not because they were particularly fright box it. they've been preparing for it for about 20 years. but simply because

a lot of this happening and the very much aware of being very close in touch with most of as you know, the pregnant issue is already coming to a head at the moment. this and the most moment of crisis for the united states facing a major, major defeat of the us, the and the secondly, because the brick summit is coming up on the 25th of this month. and i think that both the most go and cut her arm, and of course, basing would like this to parcels. well and at the substances meeting with many new initiative sonata. yeah, i mean i, i do want to get back to this region, but india is foreign minister jason cars width binds and i'm not sure whether anyone is with the bible is it was in the white house and it goes to india has

a huge and international lots of transport, cory door operation going, which iran is an important, essential part to the united states. understand what's happening in the brakes. and what will be discussed in cars on the tool or the just signaling. look, a all american interests in the region should activate against the threats of a run, just when india is doing a massive deal with a run, as is russia. and as is china i, i don't think that at the moment there is much understanding of the middle east. i think most of the middle east textbooks that were in the state department and other places have been removed. they have been removed and we have a being run essentially by people who do not have much expertise in it. or if they have expertise, like a most hold time,

it is really from the is really perspective problem from a united states perspective. that's the us ongoing. it was an idea for us us as basically as rails man in the abiding cabinet. yes, he has her, he has an office in the white house, a he moved from state to buckland, where he did the demarcation negotiations with lebanon above maritime areas. so the expiration and then he went into the white house with one secretary and the team and state department was dissolved as i understand it. so he sort of operates as a one man band out to the white house. yeah, well i want to explore whether it is incompetent or it is actually by design or given a but just briefly when it comes to the incompetent side of things, a rookie mistake by president possessed can be wrong to come out with the bizarre statement that somehow he'd had ej assurances that restraint would be rewarded.

restraint from iran would be rewarded in the light of the smile on the mud or in the tear on which we between had the reward. it was, was not follows. assassination, i mean, basically basically i suppose you will put it in those terms, but as it has been, the was sort of there is politics involved and less than 10 are wrong. and i think that um, when, as ash can, who doesn't have that sort of experience was made for president. he was pretty well captured to can we say buys a basically buys as i read some cut to me sort of a crew and in iraq. and so he did and to his embarrassment, he did believe assurance is that he was given a by you your appear on an american. both are says that the would be substantially

relief of sanctions for iran. and that would be a guaranteed c scar and garza on times that would be acceptable to hum us. and as he said, it is into view of 2 woods. they lied. none of it was true. um, so this being a lot of anger in iran and a lot of soul searching soul searching because iran has being very careful and it's reactions. it is shown grades so for spring ready, dating back to the killing of customs. so the money, but also off to the attack on the syrian on the consulate in syria and damascus, where it raining and generally was killed. at that point they did mitigate very much what drones and miss house 5,

but it was costly orchestration and of the lot here. and who was that far? administered, that time off to it's spoken. he said that you know what we call to get this right . i mean, in the sense that we are trying to be restraining and lost a lot of this conflict to escalates into a wider war. but we've called to maintain that sort of sense of deterrence. and we've got to maintain a sense of strength. so there is uh, being a lot of criticism. this is the restraint, much of the case it if you like, by that or a full mist wing in the wrong has contributed to some extent plane but contributed perhaps to israel feeling and pod to be able to take out the whole of that has put a leadership including said,

house on the throttle and then to attack the level of across the board. i mean uh from all sides of level of them. i mean, is riley suffering the soldier because a treat whereby they are dividing up their routes into sort of sectors and telling people to evacuate one sector, a move to another sector. and then when they've called the, as i told to move back, because that sector is about to be attack. so there are more than the 1000000 displaced from the homes and the something a large number, i think 1500 killed them about 8000 injured. these are not as bullet people the so basically ordinary level needs. that being said to be connected with, says paula. and of course we have the same. the same justifications. oh yes. um. has buller is hiding behind the people? he's using them as human shields in every house. there is they've produced this

fantastic idea of a sort of missile at b and b, whereby lebanese was sort of keeping me solace in the homes. i'm getting a small fee from his bullet for doing so. this is all nonsense complete nonsense because i was in lebanon in 2006, and before and often during the war. and even before the war, hezbollah took great effort to make sure of the one know up and saw o clint, indeed military assets that were anywhere near the level of these villages or cost . so they kept them quite away from it. so the idea that they know having this house in the attic and things is just a typical propaganda, but it has no no basis, but it's being used for the tax and the a tax r. as in garza intended to put pressure on the civilian lebanese population,

imagining that back end to turn on on his bullet, in fact, fall more than in 2006 a leg up a nice with just the usual exceptions that's come out to them. suppose that this, i'm with the, for our minister and the president think, you know, we stand as while this is an attack on the 11th the system to attack on, on as bo, we are being attacked right up through the back car and across a level and and didn't pay a route, so it's very different. but yes, there is a very awful lot of criticism of pay iran and the wrong is having to look very capacity. you know, there is a real got it. i mean, you know, i don't want to make it sound so simplistic like you know, but it is. this is jessica contributed to it. i mean, those are ro dilemma. you can use self restraint if you like, in order to try and avoid going to abroad

a war that is in the interest of the run, the interest of russia as the interest of, or of the region not to have a full of ultra note war. but at the same time, the other side cause that dilemma is that actually by too much self restraint, you end up ways. um, if you like escalation and you end up with a wall anyway. and sometimes you find the bike cell for a screen that actually will comes to you even whether you wanted to know. so the question was, and this is why i think we had this officer and it was the honest, as it came from the supreme national security council. i just to remind you is that possession who has had a lot of publicity or has no say in these decisions. this is not his field for him policy, security policy lies and calling with the supreme the national security council

under the supreme leader, the supreme leader makes the last decision most the press since he is basically concerned with domestic administration of the state, but not with foreign policy and not with security as the good cause. stop you bad. more from the former advisor on me least issues. the foreign policy chief ivy is longer up to this break. the

we're told joe biden is frustrating by israel. the white house is reportedly realizing that it may be unable to prevent original war in the middle east. meanwhile, thousands tens of thousands are being killed. why is the west so in difference to diplomacy? the plug it back to going underground. i'm still here with us. decrypt for the british diplomat and founder and going director of the baby based complex for him as how certain part one you were talking to me about possess cannot having a foreign policy control in iran. i mean, arguably, i mean i lived in tyrone he does have power to resign at any rate, but as regards and i should also add, as regards to what he wrote,

chest to gauge to the side of the national securities. true the true. so maybe he was power to it's, i don't know, but there's a lot of, i mean it's a barely faulty issue, but i just want to underline, i mean it, ron is not alone in the style. lemme which i well, did russia give them bad advice effected rush, give them bad advice. me sure. stood by me just to mention the day before as well. you know, russia has had had the same dilemma and during the war and you great, and there will be times where they've had set backs, reverse thoughts, and they've had to stop them thing. come reassess and, and actually the been changes in the, in the senior military leadership in moscow. so, i mean, these things are not confined to iran, is the general opprobrium about this dilemma that, you know, if you act with restrain, it'll get written wrongly interpreted. this weakness and actually bring the war you don't want onto. that is the danger. and so possessive jams is being much

criticized for those comments that he made. and 4, in the sense, almost go behind the backup of the system to talk about them in the, with the americans and with the europeans. because he does not have a mandate to do that. he does not have that monday, that lives with the security council. a lot with him and it was the supreme leader who had ordered, if you liked the attack in retribution for the killing of neil. and they came from the tulsa full from the head of the security council. so i'm, there is a lot of sort of concern, i'm sure it'll pause, but i think that's one of the reasons we have what we had uh the um, the recent miss all attacked in, in, in iran, as iran, in israel, as the ron wanted to recuperate, the sort of sense of to tyrants, incense,

so they are serious and that also to show that they have the capability of some missile because of cost their restraint on the 13th of april when they followed miss house full, wasn't misinterpreted completely as well. we'll just, you know, they will no doubt 99 percent were not taught by a us above the defense systems. and so now they have to does demonstrate that actually is wells at defense systems on not very effective. i'm not quite capable of landing um, ballistic missiles as to saw on target in israel in a very short notice. yeah, blanket idea of censorship at the moment of the impacts and the results of it. just some ripple. it's a tile of maze. we have 15 is we didn't have it in the f 35 that had to him a base in israel have 35 that 15 and not a single is really casualty it'd be is to be. but uh,

as regards the ssl for spring criticisms can be made that like that about certainly would've a mid video with the libya to back left over pretend it's allowing things to get to the stage. are they willing to hand stuff to them made on to and, and so forth. but is there a similar mistake being made by people who think that netanyahu is running the show here? i mean, we know by didn't said to me not can megan in 1982. he wouldn't care. level of 11 and civilians were killed. a was worse than men. i can vague in the, in the atrocities in 1982 blinking off to october 7th. and he came to, as well as a jew who was brought up, of course, by a lawyer and confidant of the most ads robot maxwell, who stole the money in britain from the pension fund of samuel piece us a piece are. and i think is his name drawing confident. and maxwell, is this a plan? was this a, a genocide jo plans in the beginning? because then so then jake sullivan of the national security council,

the in the united states doesn't look so stupid load is blinking. that in your planning, mazda strokes here, bringing the u. s, which always wanted to get involved because clearly the us were involved in terms of the reaction to iran's retaliation using the destroys in the, in the red sea. and they're prepared for it. they going forward, this was the plan all alone. it wasn't. i mean, i'm not, you only can say that about ukraine work. the heavy, the dictators are lensky is losing. but this is the plan to exterminate god. i think it's hypo, i think, for as for, for a long time, i mean the plan about garza and the pon about the west bank. and of course, destroying this bullet has been known about for a long time. it is deeply entrenched in the israeli policy, and of course, netanyahu came to congress and elated to we're off very clearly. he said in vice

here to america, to war games, good wrong. so you, if you like the head of the octopus. uh that is strangling in israel and he said this is a war of civilization against bumper some so everyone use that this was sort of in, in, in the works. now i think there are 2 elements to this that, you know, i don't blanket so directly because of the 1st really is that i think the, the, i don't think good particularly, but most the other parts of the system. but certainly not, you know, as a, the congress is old both in, unless of course, the other parts the new cause of certainly all the pentagon is getting increasingly worried about over extension in the americas getting overextending. bro, if you like, china is ramping up the pressure some in the pacific. so they've got it more of

a carrier in the field. but the pentagon wants to put more resources that. and it's still preoccupied with ukraine. and to have a wall pin with a ron and in the middle east, with all its american bases with all its, um, uh, a few like exposure as far as her abilities. i think it was not so popular. and i think that's probably what made the pentagon. i actually vito's the idea from brenton and from others from the blinking to a permit the craniums to fall. so miss solves a deep into the deep into rush, although that can be changed. that could change the, the moment of goes by the time this is broad, i could have back to that can happen, particularly in an election period. well, you know,

a good i feel like political till he point saw or essential appearing tough on pigeon is considered to be the sort of from talking point to, to make so to me for, for by him and his team. but i'm just saying, i'm not sure, and i'm not sure at this moment if it's a good idea to have a wall where they are wrong and kinda because of the electoral prospect of the policy and bar in the united states. i mean, that's a very complicated domestic calculation, which depends on the so do you like the little composition of these 5 suite and states and, you know, in some there are quite substantial numbers of muslims. they belong to them already . surely by now with the pictures we've seen from guys and 11 and the m and a nice area and there are things i, i think so, but i mean these 5 states,

so very crucial. i mean the election. so one or austin, this and the trying to recuperate, but i mean, actually they're getting the, digging that whole deeper and deeper with the statements that are being made. and, you know, be, uh how some last fall a is an iconic figure. as being an eye contact for go, someone who has, you know, spend the low standing for national liberation and 2 colors ellis. i mean, to be in, you know, signs manifestations in kashmir, august of india, and across the middle east. venezuela in bertina, verified that is loss. you know, i do want to get actually cause a time in the time limited to us. i just want to say more. why is it iran react using these traditional warfare means? i mean, it's a long time since carlos, the jackal, was operating against the, the owners of israel as it were,

the back as of israel. but where is the asymmetric warfare going? i only ask because if it is true that it was be just by design and that in fact, trump, who's being fed, that iran was behind, is assess nation attempt. and if the bible in any case as a sponsor to the genocide and cause, if that was if they had the power is behind it rather than all this obsession in the progressive media are arguably against that. and yahoo! he is the impetus now to attack the, the senses of power that the metropolitan powers which are the senses of power, operating in west asia rather than using tel aviv. it was, i think, the pressing festival. what you're saying is partially true, but the net, you know, who it has carried a lot of blame for what's happening. and every day one says, well, if he was lost power or something, everything would be right. i don't think that this is necessarily the correct

perspective because actually he has the support of a cabinet. he has enough support within the capacity to survive until 26 and he's made it always made it clear. i think he gave a a and then to be in the seventy's to hastings writing a book and he said, and the next for all being, well we will of take a girlfriend of expelled all of i was getting in some arabs. and i think between the river and the se. so, i mean, he's been part of this for a long, long time. his father was a private secretary to deb attempts k. so he's a job. but since the revision is like most of the cabinet and there is a majority of the, it's really is, it was obvious when this government came into power. and we saw the mizrahi,

the jews that come from north africa in the middle east. what taking key positions, these were the people that the big in the broad festival into a one and then then tuesday, they cooled. and this is great. they feel, i mean, you know, that program said it will. it was obvious some time ago. what was the program to establish and the israel on? yeah, i mean is the program or a life? how is it indian state is the program of entity blinking, actually blinking. so it's brought up by the kinds of people we haven't got that much time left. they all know assignments, we agree that based on that's, i don't think there's no difference on that. and i'm saying that actually, i mean what that is, the question is big data collectively lead it into this, or did they just facilitate this as it, as a lot of the met him. yeah. who and then having to,

i mean to be no restraints put on this new tool. so is it a question of passive commission given the task because they're actively all they've signed another 9 busy and the other day 2 days before the h to yeah, there's nothing passive about it and straight down very quick very quickly. and finally, very quickly. finally, i should, i actually went through this with you about brittany's role with the doctor theory based on the british prime minister thing. he's all up left for it. and then then denials that the you in a really britain no. a target for any resistance attack, should it become a symmetric and do strategic and outside of west asia. julian assigned you gave us so much information with that. i suppose. i recall most importantly, babs at the moment, the memo from uh, jake sullivan's hillary clinton thing isis was on the us aside in syria as long as smoke for the 1st time about his torture and the counsel of your meeting this week

. how far do you think his life is in danger away from all of these other big geostrategic topics? i mean, we did a lot of interviews with julian massage before is the cafeteria to and torture by the british. of course i called tell, i mean i can give you a notice or to, to view, but i don't think it is in danger. no, i think he's done it. his deal way out to say he knows that he was a journalist and did some things, but i think that's probably as much as long come till the end of it. but i mean, who knows, i mean, those are the sort of the black areas of policy that you're not allowed to see. they all kept very much in the dark. i don't know, but i think i'm hopeful. anyways, he is. he's okay now as a drug. thank you, and that's of, of the show of continued condolences to those surviving

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