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my mac sooner it tends to welcome back to going underground, broadcasting all around the world from the u. a. e. today marks one year since the palestinian resistance launch operation and likes a flood of to decades of is really a positive that the cleansing and brutal occupation is right. allow them to the teeth with us u. k. u weapons and encouraged to carry out self defense in return carried out to genocide, perhaps hundreds of thousands of palestinians in gaza, mostly women and children had been slaughtered. today's guesses, doctor michael shuler, a former c i a officer who spent 22 years in the agency where he led the counter terrorism sent has been not and station he anonymously or the best selling imperial

who bruce, where he argued that washington's meddling cause the very terrorism if claimed to fight today through his website done intervention and his bald costs with national security a and to mike stopped assure continues to tear apart the narrative of justifying us interventions abroad. he joins me now from virginia. talk to show and thank you so much for coming on. it's a day event of us race today and $21.00 the us. we can it's longest war in history with all of the data and defeated it 20 years later. again, this done, it's the 4th anniversary of the me, mcculla memo part of the f d. a conspiracy to prevent japan to attack the usa. and of course it's also one year since i'm ok. i'm osburg the siege of gaza who is play and playing who is role playing a mentally ill, a genocide, joe. or is it by design the that a valid zine this like by blue?

back to killing and 11 and mass killing of said to me and i can begun is making recall. he didn't care how many children were killed in lebanon, blink. and of course, he was brought up by robert maxwell's cornfield and lawyer. is it by design? is the united states playing israel and ivan, yahoo was and then you know, blank, but no, i think it's exactly the 2nd. sure. i think if you look at the congress, i think in history, there has never been a 4 and legislature owned by another country as completely as the american congress is by the israelis not directly always by these realities. it's through their bluster and their demands that they, they get involved. but the american geography, if you will, is loaded with pro is rarely organizations like the anti defamation league, the southern poverty law center, a guy pack and i'm told numbers of jewish millionaires.

there's a trump took a $100000000000.00 from a woman, a jewish woman who lives in las vegas. mary, i'm, we're hearing aid also. yes. sales. and i don't know if there's 2 or in the casino address as a casino, we do. yes. yes, that's exactly right. but no since 1948 we've been on lock stock and barrel. i'd use riley's of advertising either. you were in the c. i a in the kinds of terror unit years. yeah. yeah. oh, it's over many years. you know, it doesn't quite work like that many of these congressmen who knows actually have children serving in the us on forces that are now under the being targeted right now. perhaps obviously they're threatening and into stipend. their stipend is sufficient to stop them worrying or less than they're worried about their children . and there's not so many of their children anymore. it's mostly, uh, as you know, illegal immigrants, minorities, of all kinds that came to get a job. the, the,

the america is not what it was a 20 years ago, let alone 50 years ago. but since you're, since truman took money to run your 1948 election from jewish americans, that has been a study. i've told kline toward owning the congress and the media it's, it's, it's, that's just the way it is in this country, sir. those honest organizations i just mentioned to you are now employed, gaining data about american conservatives and christians. so when the time comes to round them up, uh they give the information to the api. i imagine they're on a retainer from the f b i. and they'll have information about where to go to find people. maybe like me who are little bit unhappy with the way foreigners are interfere in our business or so they should basically all registers for an agents of israel, then all work for the united states. added at a minimum. i think they should be close down myself. i don't think we have to put

it up as a nation state with a presence of, of malign for an actors, whether they're registered or not. you know, america is a pretty simple place. our on our, our 1st president said we needed to avoid avoid entanglements with other nations. why we don't want to be in their wars. but 2nd, in over funding is for any for and country will make it hard for people who oppose that particular bilateral relationship to, to oppose it publicly. indeed, those who oppose will become identified as the enemy. so in a thing called the farewell address, my general washington. i mean, you know why i ask whether it's by design because often you hear from these talking heads and pundits who are a coach no doubt by this a military industrial complex. that is both as you say by israel, they say, oh,

but it's so important to have this base in this oil rich energy strategic region. then they give us intelligence that's useful. i understand from your him or that when you are the c a u. anyone's got some useful intelligence from israel. yes. in the 4 years, little bit more than 4 years, i ran a reparations against to some of the law and we got one peaceful, one piece of useful information. and i asked permission to share with people on the ground because it involved the risk to people. and we're the, the as rarely told us no. and i shared it any way and it happened to have a positive impact. so i didn't get fired or suspended, or anything for the uh, you know, a sending our, our masters. but now we have cases of, uh, of uh, service men and women in your country. uh, apparently trying to get in z. the relatives, uh,

one thing to be rescued from the catastrophe of hurricane helen, which is the effect of north carolina, south carolina, georgia, tennessee, florida during virginia, 100 dead more than a 100 dead 100 aliens without power. and so on genocide, joe had no problem saying no federal aid while giving 9000000000 to israel. and i don't know how many billions to zelinski had. do you think uh you, the full focus now really of the dying days of this administration then is to is to a, the net and yahoo, i understand that is destroyers in the red sea. was it always it measuring where helping of trying to come back and kill the retaliatory massage from around i imagine that's the case here. we have a big part of our linux lead over there at the moment. we also have in both ukraine and israel. i know numbers of american troops on the ground. certainly if they've

been there for any length of time, we've had casualties in the american. people have never, never told a officially that they're there and be no announcements of any casualties ever been, have ever been made in this country. and either these really front or the, or those zalinski front. and so what are they doing here? they coursing parents to keep their mouth shut, what, what's the, what's going on there? i wonder if we are fighting probably the 30th war since 1945, which and we've watched everyone to extraordinary disasters in afghanistan and iraq . vietnam career are usually utterly unconstitutional wars, for which each president in turn should have been indicted or at least uh, what do they call it? impeached? there is no, there is no law for warmer warfare making united states these days. we didn't,

we didn't provide in the cash, the tuition for a warrant word. we provided for a president, you know, only congress has been able to is able to declare war in turn. they on constitutionally delegated that duty to the president for political reasons. if the war goes well, they can say who re, we helped. if it goes belly up, they condemn the president from here to sunday. it's a, it's a crooked, unconstitutional system that has killed hundreds of thousands of americans and who knows how many foreign peoples since 1945, it's a disgrace. it's illegal. it is, it is a, it is a crime against the country and it is running our economy. i want to have to add those with the deaths tools maybe uh right now in syria and iraq, you as interest there. but, you know, you were at the c, i a, a shortly,

thousands of your former colleagues, thousands of your successes, work in this massive security state would resign on mass as a pledge to all of the constitution. if that, if what you were saying was true. well, you think so, what do you, what they hire for me, they hire from elite universities and they've started 20 years ago. how come you know? so different are different because i, i'm not smart enough to keep my mouth shut. and i mean his story by trade and if you don't know where are you, where you're not going to know where you're going. and that's exactly where we are . now we, we roll from in reading a place like grenada to input and reading. afghanistan, rac, somalia, libya the number i, the korea in the fifty's. it doesn't, this was not a country, it was not a constitution made for war. since roosevelt got us into world war 2 by,

by beating the japanese. it has been an i'm ending series with a few exceptions of warning or it's not presidents. well, do you agree then? i'm maybe maybe you don't normally agree with x c i a boss has, but leon, vanessa who succeed in your c. i a boss who is your stand it off to put a gloss and michael hayes. and he said that the most ad page, your attack on lebanon, which killed the so man wounded thousands, children, women, the discriminant was a terror attack. do you agree with him that he said that and why do you think someone like beyond panetta would say that about well, for what you were saying, the great manufacturer of your politicians in congress is around the the, it, it struck me is very unusual thing for him to say, certainly from the american perspective, it was a terrorist operation. we're not officially engaged in that war. it is much

a terrorist operation as the vaccines were. it's the same thought. you put them into somebody and then they get kill later. you had them as a hand of a deeper, as you know, i think this goes out on social media and you know, the levels of sense of ship know specific teeth with big pharmaceutical companies. so i'll just say that that's a particularly controversial view. but with the u. s. a being involved in the supply chain, the kind of interference or is that something that you read is possible operations when you're at the c i a and do they don't realize the blow back to they don't realize or blow back as they congratulated a b as riley's on that operation, that blinded children in the mud doctors and nurses in the hospitals in bay route. you have to understand sure that there's the agency and then there's the 7th floor, which is the director in all of his minions. their concern is to keep these release happy. it used to be a pair pair of countries, the saudis,

and these railings. when i was there, if you had a piece of information in the, in the saudis or the is relays, will get wind of it and they wanted it, they would contact the agency. and if the agency decided it couldn't be shared, they just call the white house. the agency would then get a call from the white house and the information would be shared with those 2 countries. dr. michael, sure, i'll stop here that more from the former chief of the c i as been logged in facebook after this, right, the switches out there were some openings to students, the slow that was done. so right now let's you want me to look you getting this fellow to post is all the 50 is that i, that's a get a minute from other students i need, which is easy to saw on the screen. so as i said, i'm sure material which is in line i'm willing to identify july. the 2nd is oregon,

which will screw well in the middle of something in the we did present it to not get the results between you and the to bundle. would you do me a solution for sure, and i'm comfortable in which we can, which insidiously, given that process the will go back to going underground. i'm still here with the host of the national security our and to mike spoke us the next the i office to delta michael. sure. i don't the show you were talking about the impact and the power of the israel lobby . but you know that, i mean quite apart from the critics who will say, stop blaming the jews design is jews. they use a useful list to us and pipe power and had demonic power for the rest of the world

. and particularly strategic place has to be in constant k o, as in turmoil. so the us can get on with it. not least for the u. s. corporations that benefit from regions in the global south. so what do you think about that? i mean, i keep coming back to this idea that actually jake sullivan and dads of a blinking and not as stupid or as venal as you seem to be making out what will be a good they could when the guy office in defense contract as after they leave all the if you look at american foreign policy since since 1945, what is it gotten us, but wars masses of people, including most most lives now, sadly. who don't like us very much we, we, we are, but by what is the highest gdc in the world, the know by p b anymore? that's china. but, you know, since 45 and the glory is of the seventy's and sixty's with the social contract

with the american people and so forth. so that's good for us to be for entered into weight. and not only idiot things like wars, but the mass of money we're spending on the climate change fraud. you know, what in the world is, is wrong with people. you know, if you know, you know, 5 grade school, if you take c o 2 out of the air, everything guys in your life, i think there's more to that. and there's a lot of money to be made. clearly, lot of money to be made. clearly out of the colonizing, speaking of which obviously that's a drum for a trump line. bad. do you think i know that there was a lot of us go mainstream media criticism when you quoted the 17th century revolutionary as regards the need to have with the attorney, do you believe that the there are forces in the united states co would be trying to kill the most, who certainly he was at that point before. uh, biden stopped being the presidential candidate. suddenly the most popular uh,

candidate for november. donald trump. i think there is a number of people that somebody said there were 5 teams out there, but i would bet that they were all all related to the democratic party and the bureaucracy. your ronnie is, are not stupid people. they have their hands full at the moment, with the binding ministration in the you. why are you your believe that line? or you say many people were shocks, of a donald trump who previously took on like pompeo. rather than draining this, rob swamp added to this, well, maybe the perhaps that was swamped in history, you know persecuted, julian assigns and all the rest of it is just being fed. this is ron line, which is neat for his miriam adults and millions. yes. but he's also need because if they, if they uh, do kill him and they blame it on, the iranians were off to work with around in the military industrial complex which

you mentioned is already gaining hundreds of millions and millions of dollars out of what they're giving to zalinski. yeah, probably to use or at least to. so it's a, it's a, it's a, it's a close circle. it's a patter. and you can watch it happened and you cannot call it out. but the democrats, you know, they, they have, and t for, they have black lives matter. they have this guy who was apparently working for the agency in, in, uh, um, you know, i've called black spots. they're obviously elements of it and it was hijacked some say by those voices because they found it useful to do so. but then specifically, when you are the c i a, you didn't see, was it not really part of your big nod and station to see documents that did things like that in developing countries all within the united states. i mean, this guy is not even supposed to operate in the united states. this is the f b,

i correct. this is the f b i who is this? oh yeah, yeah, i the, the, i is the world's greatest stronger terrorism function as long as they can follow their pear, which is 1st to find a pretty dumb was and convince him that he has to die for hour and get a team of people that will go ahead and do that and then they send him out and he gets it some dumber muslims to come along with him. then the f. b, i promises some arms and explosives. they show up on the given day and there is a f, b i in their yellow rain jackets with the ice in there to crossing, proclaiming another victory into the process. that was never a threat. that's counterterrorism for the f b i. and so you think that it is quite possible that there are forces in there that would sort of turn the assassinations into something that would benefit israel, assassination attempt something, some something that would benefit the democratic party and the permanent

bureaucracy. that's who is after trump you're writing, it's may go after them for solely mind at some point, but there's lots of time. they don't need another. uh, uh, they don't need a super power. well, it's less than that. oh, i mean, i'll give them the iran would prefer donald trump, because nothing can be worse than the joe biden. who is the capitalizing war throughout the region. don't you think? i mean, that's, uh, seems to be more. i think the, the least thing america has to worry about are those 5 teams. they may killed trump, they've, but they'll get caught. but what they have to worry about is if they go ahead with the stuff that they've been planning with the new world order, with the world economic forum, with empowering the u. n. to be a separate secretary general to be the weren't aware of that. but i know you talked to you most of ex colleagues from the agency. so i knew in a still friends. they don't think that you're just talking like a crazy person. you know, they do,

they don't know our history. they think they think grateful sir, for the history. is that how you've written some of it? i mean, the history is clear, the history isn't there. right. and but i didn't have any influence except that it was pretty warmly received. and you just allow me for a bio summit, but that's not the point. the point is, this country's funding on certain principles and when you stop following them, you end up what you have at the moment. at unrelenting interventionist, aggressive warfare machine led by award or not by a president. you have a congress that supports every more than you can see. the last time we had any opposition to award was largely during the now and that was another waste of $50000.00 american lives. my argument is just, we don't intervene in places and we don't joining alliances. we don't joined any kind of internet and get rid of the us out of this country. how many do you think the best thing that could happen is

a puts in ends the war and ukraine decisively to? yes, rather than, i mean, i mean, for the united states, it might not be for western europe or for russia, but it is the patient a slow campaign by russian forces, deliberate, those areas of, uh, uh, so the russians would say, nod c, buds of ukraine. it's too slow for those who support democracy in the united states, but it's what democracy we have left. there's even less less and you left in europe compared to what there was 20 years ago. they're proposing, you know, all different kinds of things, which i'm not even thinking about the do you have the, you could almost be fine, is you can only catastrophe or your, the great benefit of the ukraine war was the foot proves the other. spect listeners of the native organization when, when the soviet union crumbled in 1991,

we should get those boys in the butt and said, we're taking the phone off the hook. you pay for your own defense from now. i now were sucked into this thing to america. amazing. americans dying for it, for ukraine or, or for, for belgium. the use been a terrible trade part in the sense of now putting in the laws that require us to be as, as, as a work is they are. if we're going to deal with that my, my, my, my cold abuse or is a world view that sees america much less involved in military terms in for an 8 terms in international government, national roles, government terms and a return to the constitution, which would 1st of all rep changed around the president and stop over 50 almost 70 years now. presidential made war. i don't. how many numbers of people

graduate every year from your ivy league schools who are taught to oppose your views with the vehemence because they believe the importance of imperial power is to use western europe in those areas. and what you're saying is the isolation isn't that is so dangerous. but on the other hand, do you think you're really, that is your view is actually becoming more widespread despite the censorship and the lack of a 1st amendment in your country. i'll give, well wrong, my name is burning. sure. i think warrant or people are on the line to it. and we've learned that the leadership of the elite in this country is worthless. the people who come out of harvard or, or, you know, they're not common sense people, they know nothing of the world except what they write in a book. they've never been out there and they never read the enemy. there was no seniors official over the entire experience of both some of the united states government that ever read anything he wrote or, or said, why?

because it's not classified. and how could a guy in a, in a turbans in a row, in sandals paste play, do any threat to the united states. this is a government of the leads for the weeks. and, you know, what will happen? um, i don't know what would happen, but if a big the time is short in your, in your favor. and i'll give me a for a actually strengthening us. had giovanni power by actually becoming more isolation is, is that us to turn seems to be over iran attacks, regardless of the big us fleet. it was sent there. how do you explain the fact that we now live with the united states whose military budget is? i don't know how many times the, the, so the other top 6 put together or something,

you know, most trillions they spend. and yet no one's right into the united states anymore. oh wow. how can you be freaking when you're having one or more out of 40 or 50 of them since 1945. why be afraid of us? we're going to break up concrete burger. not necessarily kill civilians and when it's time for us to be weary of it and we can go find a new place when bait we go. and you think from sure before i just do the one thing . sorry, going thing i would say sure is isolating is a slower because what it means is anti semitic. and it's been that way since 1941. when one member criticized jewish efforts to get us into the war. and from then on presentation ism has been a slower and an anti semitic sick dog. what are they called with a dog with a non intervention is what we are. we don't need to be involved in other people's wars. what in the world we need to be involved in, for example, in the old days with northern ireland?

i think when and again, the republican buyer is none of our business. a. the irish needed your weapons. i think they would say me the entities and they say to me, did you say to that say to that what if a trump doesn't win? i mean the actually just finding the on the media, do you think you should be frightened of the obvious bias and to tell it darian media assisted living? is it or to tell the terry media system in your country or doesn't that match anymore? because most american people don't believe it anymore. what your tv channels and use paper say yes, hard to measure because pulling is, is crooked media is true. could how do you know the senior year? you should rest. cassidy with us, is that if trump doesn't win and they go ahead with things like the climate right. confusing children about gender going after christians going after conservatives? there are several 1000000 weapons in this country have been going out for the last

2 in the hands of the people deliberately, by the founders to make sure that tyrus. i'd go wandering at some point off with the dead ducks the declaration. whatever else you do with the rice, dr. michael? sure. thank you. a pleasure sir. that's it for the show. i've continued condolences to those very value you as you are and genocide will be back with a brand new episode inside the until then keep in touch viral social media if it's not sensitive in your country and i do have channel going on the runs, you've been rumble, they'll come to us and you know the episodes of going underground seas have the, the,

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