to and became a true best yes of the ideas of fan african is a the the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle is really genocide in gauzy, has been going on for a year. the west is largely indifferent. occasionally embarrassed by the excessive the rest of the world. the global south is outraged and discussed. the western legitimacy has collapsed a year on the world. this changed the cross talking a year of genocide. i'm joined by my guess in bay road. i know nasser is an

independent foreign policy and middle east analyst. we also have as the bunk rail lopez. he is a news best editor for the cradle, and we also have charmaine obama. she is a journalist and analysts of west asian geo politics or at cross talk roles in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciated charmaine. let me go to you 1st. there's so many things to talk about one year on the world has changed a lot. there's been losers. there been some winters and that i put that in air quotes, but for fundamentally, the west is not going to do anything to stop this genocide in gaza. and probably spray and it's already spread to the west bank and into 11 on your thoughts. yeah, for sure. i mean, uh right at the beginning of the, the conflict in november retired is really major general. its like brick, who was i think the ombudsman for the is really army said quote, all or for a missed i was the ammunition, the precision, guided bombs,

all the airplanes and bonds. it's all from the us. the minute they turn off the top, you can't keep fighting. we have no capability and everyone understands that we can't fight this world without the united states period. and i think, you know, there are european countries that are blocking at this point. i mean one year on their, their, their favorite ally in the region has gone from victim to pariah. and i stayed that way with, you know, i see jenny and r c. c court rulings. um, you know, it was already given and still underway for genocide in particular. so i think, you know, despite as well as bravado and just something in the last week or so, you can see the tables have turned very quickly in the last few days. i mean, just today has the law of fired, i think over 200 rockets and this tiles into haifa. and it's a, it's environment and is rallies, as we're watching on telegram and other social media channels are saying you can't

imagine what it's like if you can't just report on it. you have to be here to see. and of course, that's what the, the b route suburb that's what eastern lebanon, because that's what southern level non has been facing. that's what the entirety of the gaza strip has been facing for the last year. and in the last few days, the north of the gaza strip, which has been bulldozed over, you know, as we speak so. so none of this would be possible without the united states. we have to stop calling. this one is really war. this is a us, we're on the region. yeah. the, it's a neo colonial war on the region. okay. and may be, you know, i think one of the things that is frustrated me. let me go to esteban about this frustrating me, but also given me hope with the same time, is how we relate this narrative because it is, it is neo colonialism. we can being confronted by resistance. that's how we should be phrasing this here. and what will be the western media does the, the huge dis favor of just demonizing,

a group of people. everything started on october 7th. and they were up against not only is the violence of this genocide in spreading genocide, but we're up against the narrative that is intense. we biased and intentionally misinforming us about to 100 percent theatre. and this has to be become more than a war between countries or a or a functions you see that war against the truancy that world narratives and western media for one year straight has been completed in the genocide they by muse representing by miss the informing they are what the reality here on the ground is which is you have native natives fighting against the colonizers, you may be persistence groups fighting against this neo colonial forces funded by washington. by that you funded a, is supported by golf monarchies mean in many ways. so, eh, you know, as i say, this is a war or against truth. this is also why you see so many effects and journalist.

this is why the cradle was taken off of the platform for a by mid a, a, or you have all the, you know, a journal is being detaining airports. the platform as well from other i, you know, by google, by uh, by ex, etc. it's simply a narrow, they've got away from them as you said to them. it almost seemed like history started on 7 october 2023 and nothing happened before. before that there was a pair of eyes uh occupied fall is fine. so now a, we have the control of the narrative, we are telling the story and that terrifies them. and this is why they call models so hard, but simply the case ease and the most control date and they not only no longer have security in these role. they also no longer have the meat of superiority. neither does the u. s. and neither of those are you k, a or nato, for that matter, eh, but now they also, they major news outlets. they do not a control the narrow the they are, they are trying to catch up. but suddenly,

using the same methods before, which is to line to be some form and to me is represent the reality. yeah. and it's one of the casualties, huge casualties, and particularly for the week and the world is the end of any meaningful way of international law. and international humanitarian law that has been made now in void. and we, we were all told that these are the virtues that come from the west, but they're the ones that are knowing it. go ahead. i don't know. i thought i would just like to say one thing, the saddest thing that i have seen so far is the israel has decided to put a band on the un secretary general. antonio rena's, who recently gave a speech saying he condemned doctor. busy ober 7th attacks by from us. busy as israel cause an enemy or i don't know what a friend looks like the history, one of the status things also is i have to say this as an american. i was hoping that president biden would, for at least politically expedient purposes,

would push for a cease fire to help is vice president come over here is when the november 5th presidential election. but i possibly where we're going to see this work and sure, you know 2025. this is extraordinary. yeah. well, you know, actually, i mean, don't have any hope and virtue you coming from the american white house. it doesn't matter who's going to win the election next month. it's going to be the same exact thing. and you can, they can, they can play with the narrative. all they want. you know, we need to bring in more aid and all that. but you can send in aden arms at the same time. what do they think were full? go ahead. the, you know, uh we just did a report of the cradle uh uh, this morning, but uh the us has provided in the last year 23000000000 dollars too as well. and then just today the is really central back release figure is that the current cost of the gaza and love it on wars are for as well or $66000000000.00. which amounts

to about 12 percent of israel's g d. p. you know, we've talked often here about the resistance acts as boiling the as really fraud despite what happened in the last week and the short lived euphoria of israel and its allies. we're, we're continuing to see the flow of being boiled economically, politically in terms of commerce. and ports exports in terms of displacement within as well. and now the thing they worried about most and i don't know why they start then food coming because his beloved promise system for 2006 words. it's going to be an eye for an eye. you hit us, we're going to hit you and tide. you hit our airport, we will hit you. and now, god forbid, there's really started screaming about being hidden in a hype uh, you know, residential buildings cuz they basically vista rate in the southern uh, the suburb of a route. so i think, you know, it's really important to sort of re calibrate that narrative that took such hold

last week because really, truly because of a live stream gen of tide. we've owned the narrative almost from the onset, you know, as we're always kind of gone to the back on october 7th with with that. but they didn't, they launched the genocide. we owned the narrative now and i think, you know, we have to, we have to understand that one of the main things. so, you know, we're looking out for now is and is really reaction to a ron. okay. well, you got, you're jumping ahead of me. that's exactly what i want. i want to go to asked about about this. i mean is absolutely right about the, the dire consequences for israel and the um, for its people with its economy. but the, the only way to alleviate that and that has to be done in the short run, is to get the united way to get israel to get the united states, to go to war with their route. and that's in the car on the cards right now. go ahead just about and yeah, you know, israel has made it very clear that they are essentially waiting to drive the entire world down with them in this search for the, for a war we did on they have been trying to pro bono paid on for a for a while now,

a for years, even much before if there were 7 there's, there's always been these up and by he's real to, to, to kind of poke they, there any seems that, uh, well they succeeded most recently now with the, with the, we just as the nation of these, my, you have you get the, what they're doing here in devon on week, which can only be a called as an expansion of the genocide of war. the started in ga. so they are treating, made it in the same way that they, that they have been treating a garza so now it, on as the head of i, as these writers like to say as the head of the snake reality, as they, as the biggest faction within the resistance axis, you don't have say that they themselves are. yep. all on the how many said enough friday or strategic patience is over. we have you hear me reports of audios are moving around. there are their weaponry. we don't, we're not even, we don't even know the complete capacity of what it on his capable of in, in, for the most part. we don't even know their capacity to go because of all that yet . because as well that has also shown another re,

strange kind of i just waiting for israel to enter the ground because these ease where his ball is going to have the upper hand. now it on a is a waiting these much um, my anticipated you know, retaliation to the retaliation that israel has prom is a they are talking about all the heating the oil fields. they're talking about heating their nuclear facilities and you know, and they say if you miscalculate your end is going to come so much quicker that you can even imagine. and i think at this point, we need to think of a ronnie as by their words, because uh, you know, at some point the patients and diplomacy and in anything else just runs out. and you need to punch the bone of writing the face to keep it down. the question really is, is that you guys are going to fall for the truck, but then the history thousands, the us has never looked at a war and said, no, i don't want so they always look at a warrant. so yeah, we can always have some more weird, but that's the bottom, this is the war. this is the very specific board that so many neo cons in the united states have been waiting for, for decades. this is say,

this is what makes this so dangerous for not only the region, but for the entire world is that they, the resistance may see this is an opportunity to, to deal with israel design is the occupational palace line. but the neo cons, i also think this is an opportunity to solve all problems all at the same time. and that's what really worries me about this is that both sides have a, a very specific mission that they might be able to achieve. and considering what the us has done in this century and that part of the world, i wouldn't put any bets on them. i have to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on the year of genocide, stay with the the point where you was allowed to dissolve those that escaped seeing with infinity to

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welcome across software. all things are considered on peter la belcher mind. you were discussing the year of genocide, the okay, let's go back to add the chart. charmaine charmaine already mentioned, did you know we had a week of bravado in, you know, jokes about walkie talkies and, and beepers and all about it was really quite discussing, it really showed that the, the mask of brutality and indifference dropped in the west. i mean, the people making jokes about it was just horrendous and it's an a front to humanity. but having said that, here, we're in a different week right now and there are different things going on right now. what is the state of the resistance a all across the west asia, i love that phrase, west asia. i'm not going to use middle lease anymore. go ahead. nope. we can all agree that what these really did, that was a victory to some degree in the short term even has the loves officials well,

i mean, he can win a battle comment. you can, you could win a battle in the war. okay. yes, exactly. yeah. so you can win a battle in the war, but that's not the same as winning a war. and as you can see, it has. busy was holding the ground in the south. this is with their territory. they have been victor. the is really is in the south, but from south on that on the year, 2000 and push them back in the year 2007. so there's no sign that tells me that this attack with the walkie talkies. i think it's all jibberish. i mean yes, even slicked to defeat a temporary defeat on his bullet. but that you have foot managed to rally and hold the line. and i think as sharply instead of, i'm not mistaken. they fired 200 rockets into height, so it doesn't look like a group that's on the verge of collapse. it's exactly, and that's why i'll go back to charmaine here. that's why you are the 1st the mentioned the around, and that's what makes me worry. and plus there is the dimension of american politics and what's famously called the october surprise. and this is something you,

you can, you can slice and dice it. i mean, i'm going to, our, with a ran in the month of october, could either help or hurt the incumbent. it's, it's very difficult to say. but again, i really want to stress to our viewers is that there are those in power, particularly in the united states. they've been, it seem to have a conflict with around and this is the opportunity they want a grass go ahead. charmaine as they do, i mean, look as well will look very weak. and this is a country very focused on a p r kind of worst day. they will look very weak if they don't respond to a run and they aren't getting a lot of push back on that. oh, i mean, certainly on, in terms of what you know, when they mentioned the uh, oil facilities and even because the americans don't want oil prices to go through the roof just as a european winter approaches that could schedule their ukraine plans. you know? so the, if the is riley is attack you're wrong,

we don't know. we're just speculating here what their bank of targets will be. but what's really important to note is that geographically iran is very different than is route. it's very mountainous in parts of vast waves and desert. it is 90 times the size of as well. okay. it's not like you can hit a few military bases while really this week, you know, we've seen a lot of iran in, um, target bank maps on what could potentially be hidden as well. because the writings will retaliate for sure. they have said this and to understand how vulnerable as well is that a country has only 6 power plants to oil feels to refineries one oil terminal 3 gas bills. half of its water is supplied by only 5 d sol nation plants, and it has only 3 major reports. one a lot that has been taken out by gemini fires earlier on in this war. and today hype a pork being struck by his will also, in a sense, it's,

it's suicide for the israel, at least to do anything for it against the run. but it's suicide for them not to. so i think this is going to be very carefully watch the, according to running officials today, the regional countries, persian gulf states that host american bases have a surety run that no projectiles. fighter jets drones, miss styles will be launched from their territories. they don't want to get involved with their a powerful neighbor. so i think what comes up is what's coming up in terms of a direct iranian israel. a fight is going to be pretty defining. so you know, we have, we have only that to watch and it's cost so much and security and as well. you know, the statistics are flying this week. the is rarely broadcasting authority released . the poll saying that's 61 percent of his relatives don't feel safe in the country . 86 percent of them who would turn to the gods. the envelope, the,

it's really authorities yesterday and day before said the northern settlers who were um, you know, who moved uh, uh, uh, from, from the north, early on. the board are welcome to come back and do the subtler said no way. know how, you know, 40 per one percent say their trust in their army has been damaged and 73 percent of as low as believe that as well has failed against just come off, which was the weakest link in the resistance act. so, so you have to ask yourself, you can use all the military fire power in the world, but have you achieved a single one of your spirited words, but certainly not. that's a very interesting point in and i think it's really important upon i'm gonna go to esteban about this. it seems to me that uh forever war in lieu of a um, security outcome in favor of israel in the west. is that what they're opting for? you know, it's, it's, i've always like in the west foreign policy looking at like ukraine, looking at syria, looking at a rack. you know, it's always like

a roulette wheel. they just keep me rolled and spinning the wheel until they get their lucky number. it's, it's illusory. it's crazy, very dangerous, very expensive, but i think that's one of the things that's happening right now is that they're looking for the winning hand. i mean, we, it is, it's dealing with people that are not rational. a 100 percent. this is on the rational war and as you're saying this, these does have the makings of are forever wherever a wage by home, by these randy army is really army push. the majority of his forces are a service. the majority of its force is actually the, the phenomena base of east around the workers. this is because this kind of lives, there is a reason why uh, a defensive and live on has been sewing fan. so for rushes or the past 23 weeks is because there is a concerted effort to make it the end as quickly as possible for them, for their economy, for their security, for their like, you know, even to save face at the end of the day. because looking at what's happening and

gosh, i just, yesterday, how mazda launch on the another volley of rockets from con eunice, an area of a cost. so that has been already on there is really sees multiple times the worst bill i be. so where is the victory and got so what does that make them think that there's going to be a victory and they don't have much less against it on. and so i think the term forever war is correct. but i, it might actually, you know, it seems like he's going to come and buy them in the us at the end. yeah. so, um, i know, and i guess i get something to of course go ahead dear, please do go ahead and uh as well, since its inception, since david ben green has relied on a very for a military strategy. and that is short hard words. it's positive strategic that it cannot take protracted words in words of attrition. yeah, the longer this goes on, the more as rel lose is. so we're not really sure why is real, keeps expanding. well, and the on that point there, i mean again the jump in and comments on what? sure. go ahead please do. that's the whole point of the program. go ahead. yes. as

charmaine had said something and correct me if i'm wrong, try me. and that is real, a tax, this would be suicide for as a real estate attack, the one correct. yeah. in terms of the retaliatory response to me, one, the way it or you, i think the point they should not attack the wrong. that would be a single face saving moment. they can preserve their security. it's nothing yahoo that's committing suicide by going and attacking your own. but he's trying to think his own political career. he will view with a diverse ability and as rallies as well as will view not striking. you run as a big sign of weakness and that's why i think they will go ahead and do it in some measure. yes and also it, i agree. i agree with both of you actually, you know way, but you know, again, you have to remember the american angle here. you're going to have the, lindsey graham's and people like that. or they're going to say b, b, this is our chance. come on, you know, do it, do it here. we eat truly believes. and also we have to keep in mind. we're talking about west asia right now, but it's damaging a putting

a strategic defeat on your ran is a defeat for russia in their minds as well. because rush, it may not be, is not directly involved with the resistance, but it's certainly a friend a bit here. so these people are thinking really big. they think big and they fail big charmaine, go ahead. jump in as well. yeah, i mean, it's a, i, i would say the russians are not necessarily unhappy at the americans pumping in, you know, of their, their mist files and they're, they're 200 pound bonds to the as rallies because that is a, those are weapons, systems and munitions that are being deprived in the ukrainian theater. so, you know, and we know, for instance, i mean, the russians may not be directly involved, but we know for instance, that the, the from, from russian sources that the s 400 anti yeah. yeah. and to aircraft systems and mtv saw systems are operational as well, and roughly,

and russian technicians as well. keep going rushman technicians. we do believe that, uh, you know, this could be a game changer. we know that iran is, you know, certainly probably more prepared than as well in terms of a missed file war with each other. but we're not so sure about the air defenses. but i think now we, we seem to have that from the russians of iran appears to also have received a they asked to 35. some of the russians is a deal they made a while ago we, we believe certain amount of those are, are now in a run. i, i do think, i think, you know, we know from months ago that us military contractors were turning down orders because they were still fulfilling a backlog and that was for ukraine. but now to israel, to how long can this go on? this is what i'm saying. but one of the goals of the resistance access is to, you know, make sure this is a protracted war, and that is ro,

is slowly incrementally degraded in every one of its sectors, military, economic, political, a, so forth. and that is in fact happening. so, um, yeah, i do, i do, i do think the as well as the current is really total list and lead by and that's when you will, will view any non response to a ron as a weakness, but they can't abide. they've been chomping up a bit since the 2006. we're in loveland. all right, go out again. so you know, i don't think they won't respond. i do think they will. and again, if they breach, he runs the territorial integrity. okay. on this it will be even greater than the assassination of handy and so on. i agree and a ron and a ron will respond and as we see and i think we know that iran will is respond to infrastructure and as well they have not only said so, but now we have is really allies saying an infrastructure hit the wall street

journal said just this week, an infrastructure it would be devastating for as well because it's got so little. yeah, well, in front of me we're, we're, we're rapidly running out of time. but i'd like to remind our viewers here. it ran is not, has not to, to this point been killing is really unlike these railways, killing palestinians, and lebanese. it's a very disproportionate that way. i want to thank all my guess in be rude. it's been a fascinating discussion. i hope you all come back and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time and we member across possibles the,

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