and vladimir pollutants, the sped would know about it and could probably provide evidence. so what is this all about? just another severe campaign for american voters to read off since the roster trump helps worked wonders for them last time. even if it was proven falls. the question is, will they buy the narrative this time? let's just say with us here on archie international up next, sewing on the grounds. bye for now. the the i'm asked sooner than see and welcome back to going underground pool. got single

around the world from a u, a e family, positive break family off. the president, mom had been side on the hand match with the letting me a put him in moscow before a groundbreaking, somebody and russia with leaders of china, iran, india, and the myriad of the geo political powers of this century. here in this region, the u. k. u. s. e u on the holocaust continues exacerbated by the visits of i'm supply circled, butcher, blinking us secretary of state who was brought up by account veto of a most ad spy with just days before a probable donald trump victory all across harris and they're ailing the. the genocide joe have now deployed the american boots on the ground to ensure the genocide is being a plan decades in the making by them 1st envisaging mass extermination as early as during the summer entity, the massacre of 198211. and joining me now from amman, jordan is for president would, can tom calling this for our music monitor? and so i'm a professor of journalism at princeton university project. the job. thank you so

much clear than that is right. the jews are not fleeing who aren't fleeing israel. i believe it's now a fight to the death support for nothing. yahoo, it all time highs. design is regime and d. c. giving another $5200000000.00 of us, public money to israel and nothing but the weapons from the puppet states of western europe. yeah, while the, you know this, the time to buy is, or by the us or many years to say that they were an honest broker, has all been exposed. and there is no honest broker in it onto this all during the clear a supporter. and you said what, thank supplier, i mean the key key word is supplying weapons as long as it's roads getting weapons from the us. when you gain from other countries, they will continue to fight. they will continue to shoot. they'll continue to bomb civilians today without any worry about accountability. and that's really the problem we have now is the danger national review. it's basically dissolved into not doing anything and yet the crime. yeah. they are going to put functions in boy

cards and everything else. i'm like that, so we have a, a dual problem here. we have a popular see we have that is dealing with 2 different complex. there's a note in which there's occupation in 2 opposite ways. one is reporting the occupier and one opposing rushing. so we have that with a genuine problem with the international order now, and i think you said there was no really interesting difference between the 2 candidates for the us elections. now, you know, headlines here in dubai, the president of the u. a, a, m, b, z, and b 's ed and president putin did the brick summit to come to light him cause on russia this week and not many covered in propaganda media or in nature of countries . but did it come too late to present domestic interferon also that with representatives and saudi arabia and of course,

as the u. a and russia and china did it come too late? will the palestinians mean exterminated? by the time all these countries come together to oppose us hedge a monic genocide as well. i mean, i wish he was an easy i don't think even the sports coalition is that kite. i mean they, they have different opinions on the us and i think maybe the only thing with the agree on a to find a currency other than the us dollar. and that's why we see the gold and shooting up a many places because that's where the bridge is all about. it is finding a common mean different than the us dollar and, but on the, i don't expect them to be much different than that. and we've expected they've been, uh, okay, know they've been fighting, but i don't think that they will create the kind of a politician we all want, which is to create that. and this one called a world of washington,

basically dictating through the rest of the world. i don't know if we will succeed in that, but clear the rush or and china are on the side of palestine that they russians of being the, being iran. i mean us elections just over a week, away with the united states bomb iran when it responds to whatever and yahoo does and begins killing american soldiers on the ground because of course, joe biden and address have put that in. come out of harris, have deployed us troops on the ground who will be killed by a rainy and strikes a. yeah, i the very interesting that i'm reading the woodward book on one and the every chapter in american think. no, no. so there's no voice on the ground, you know, crane. yeah, but here we clearly have it within the ground that the trending the indigenous population against unoccupied, like reporting and genocide, dual corporation. uh,

so it's very a little critical what, what america stands for. and yes, your right to and if and when these ready them carry out any kind of attack on the ronnie, run will not be quiet. and you know, the dish for tad, what's gonna happen after that? you won't get americans be involved in a pensive situation or defensive to, to agents, especially if it's happening right at the turn of the elections and whatever. i will happen whether it will be clear election, no contested election results is on it's, we're entering a kind of, um, like a very strange zone in the next month or so. and the god, god help us all. i mean, going to be at blood the billboard november unfortunately. yeah, baldwood was, i can't remember whether you use robert redford or dustin hoffman in the watergate field in washington buying those roles. which one was it?

i got, remember that the entire beltway know that onto the blinking liam self and bill, but they're all reading that book. you're reading at upstairs. did you find, i mean, it's lies on ukraine, the palpable. but we need to envisage the fact that somehow the patriot results assume could bring down a new radian hypersonic miss. uh, a boldwood with just an aids or he's just just an older foot. clearly getting the source, you know, the, i yeah, the book interesting reading was fine. we don't try to advertise in. yeah. obviously no, by that, i'm just saying that a, i was a little bit of criticizing because the, you know, unfortunately even they'll call, you know, profession as jordan is tied into a lot of trucks to these, ready to put them and he repeats the design is the narrative that to handle a bright children will be headed and you know, the match the rate to face all of that has been disproven. i don't know why he would put it in a book. we've, i don't know who's doing the fact checking,

but there's so many documented posted august, the narrative stuff. it is not proven. and then when it comes to the baptist hospital or the, the, the own and controlled by charged me above board where this is the hospital as if it's, you know, and they kind of a new terrain they doesn't want to show the american pursue, that there is a christian community and god has been, bonded been, uh, cannot do that. the children and women are being liked by snipe or uh so yes, i mean, as i said, it's a, you know, it might be color for reading, but it's far away from the actual issue. yeah, baldwood would pay by robert redford in all the president's men. was the film by pacola, the fact that he can do that defensive, that and repeat the lies about beheaded babies on october. the 7th means that he believes it's probably not best to blame the publisher after all symptomatic of the fact that the leads in the united states are either propagandized or just outwardly

backing the genocide. what is, do you know, it doesn't matter whether they believe it or not. if it's not true and you're publishing, you put yourself in a, in a, in a very bad position, book has his name on it. and when you talk about bern, didn't charge the children and right torment and so on. and anyone who's been doing any research would easily fact check that to be incorrect. i mean, i think he, he's far into the cop for the or a believes it or not. i really don't care what he thinks. what would he be dry here was in the printed book. i mean, the printed book in make these lie. then he repeats them without even attempting to say allegedly, or whatever. you know, i, the word that i didn't read, it just takes it as apple granted. and never the last it interesting the double cab . quite a, quite a negative view of the draining day in a number of places they say 50 percent of the time these are instead of the encounter we're having built on that as i've talked to be incorrect. so even in,

in that, even despite all, this is the thing that a lot of the things in the book, a lot of that a claims made by the israelis to the american are lied and they still continue to give them weapons. and to believe they're like they, they're like trying to find ways to help them out and make it better, a plan, as long as you have a, you know, a civilian and so on and the grading. so no, we're not going to do that. we're going to go through that in full and they accept that as being okay. well, whenever you say, you know, the type of thing or do you really know what, what it would be the result of all this, you're using a lot of popular support, big deal as well. yes. i mean, i think it's very interesting to see some of the internal discussion between is read under your and again, as i said in the beginning of the show, there's no a neutral observer here. and americans are fully under present fully connected with

a. they're not an honest nor a broker, and why do anyone believes that they were after all as well. anyway, i what is wrong with all these? you're a professor of journalism and the john list. just a lazy and incompetent or do they do? they won the extermination of palestinian suddenly reading the propaganda present nato countries and assume you'd assume reading the washing of both of the new york times that the editors that want them all the babies will uh, without heads and gaza. yeah. you know, i, yes, i think there i am. mixture of of wanting to believe these really nice evening. they are now and i tried at night, but also uh, i would say uh, premeditated, uh, do you show the bias uh on the gray b as in some small cases like in, i mean, some of the germans are just lazy and they don't do the extra effort of just ongoing,

solely the issue that can clearly uh prove that they're saying is wrong on all these cases. i faxed it, i don't care what their motivation is, whether they believe it or not, whether they are lazy or not, they're publishing lies. and there is, is there actually keep, you know, one of the things and nobody's talking about it now. if the next thing the foreign journal has been in does up over a year, there's no war in the world. the name, even in the, you know, in the last century, all wars there are germany. this is a one more. there is no foreign journal yet. local journalists are being killed every other day, but are in german based on not there on and these are, these are getting away with the narrative because there's nobody to kind of correct or at least to attempt to correct. well, i'm calling cause cause news. yeah. unless they've been given imbedded with these really a occupation for yeah, but that's not journalism, that, that propaganda is arguable that you're in. but the point that i'm trying to say is,

normally, if am somebody from the bbc or cnn, or with ever abc our, you know, a french television is not allowed to go to iran. and then every store and you're on, you will see super close on video are joining this was not that live by the running government to entering to dance around with never. we don't see that one. they're covering guys that they don't have the all of you in the way you don't have the right to the advantage it to be there and to check out whether this is joe or not. but the problem that we have president, good job, i'll stop you that more from the our views and how long have you call them this after this, right? the

the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with people. i'm a professor of john elizabeth princeton university. that would, could of promising a job you were saying, john, this could at least a major countries bullet a google things in fan is google is a cut out all of those agencies that are helping b is rarely genocide in the middle east. i want to ask you what you think of the fact that while m b 's edwards would try to be a push in that it will be noticed in the, in washington for the brakes plus summit and m b. s a apparently reports saying that the gc countries will not allow their occupying bases in these countries to be used for any use, riley rad talley tree attack against iran. what dangers there are full actually, not just in the our world all around the world. what dangers their office gates that oppose blinking sullivan bite and have her as

a sponsor genocide in in garza and just a good question. i think the your gains of office that they will not allow their interface with you. i think also i'm sure the different have the same position. so, you know, the american have bases in either be gen another base it and we don't know whether these bases would be used to, to carry out the attack a series, an attack on the, on the but the, you know, or the problem of course happens. it also on the other side, one of the line is i try to refund it off, it will create a number, unfortunately an opportunity for a couple of the why stimulatory i live in, in there, in the region to participate in their already part. so they're already participating . britain is participating from cyprus. so as the united today actually to france and germany are in new us all based in the middle east and they are and they came

in late, put, fixing the ease riley's in there. you know, it's funny, you know, the countries have a right to self determination. only their name is right and everybody else doesn't have that right now. if things don't have a right to defend themselves, every one you don't have to write it up and you don't have that right on the east, right? as of right. and a, you know, as the un mission about the doors, then hope you find countries don't have the right to have the donation is to people under occupation. all have a right to resistance, but the people who are occupying don't have that right. they don't, aaron that by they are not ready to enter occupation, but as long as they're occupied, are they gonna have that right? yeah, because there was some room is that jordan was used in recent weeks by a defective for israel. uh, yes, of course. i mean, uh, you know, this is a situation we have where logic, international law, i'm, you know, if you want to call it is 203 uh, unbelievably

a roaming the garbage can. nobody's even paying attention to it. there's no accountability you were in there. you know, in a very funny billing. uh, you know, he's read doing whatever you want and nobody told me it's a comfortable. is it too soon then i mean, we can all see the pictures on social media. i think 8 on the web. one is a big debt too, because he's not censoring the pictures of the brutality of the british american european weapons raining down on that, mostly women and children and gaza. is it too soon? just the thinking then of, of international justice system abiding hours blinking sullivan. hostile need to be jailed or faced some sort of nuremberg style of justice after november's elections for what they've done you know, and the us, uh, there's a us lot very interesting law that says that any country that the present humanitarian a can not get any international a from new york. okay. it's

a very clear law. there is no way that you can hide the. so what happened in the last period, mr. blinking light, literally lied and denied that new jersey is banning your mind. is there any, i mean, the minister of defense of the stairs is the army, said we're not allowing anything in, in the book of bubble your day. you know, and if you look at the ranking, not the drop, not the single, you know, medisave, we're not going to let any food in maybe the genocide to act. and yet blinking in his report to do the pilot in which he applies to do. rose the address, did not the prevent humanitarian a what a lie or now now banking the same 2 days. ready drop this time. you know, you don't have to do, you have to allow some food into the order of guys that because basically i can keep trying, i can put myself in a situation where i've been called on already line for you guys and kind of keep

doing that. that's unbelievable. what's happening in the us and growing even your own internal log into the garbage and just to protect the pig, these red. so you, so you think perhaps they will face just as eventually though for what they've done . tell me you're saying, well, thinking not thinking, i mean i do it as a violation that a lot of lee laws on supplying weaponry is just an as another $5200000000.00 to that and yahoo or a, the us constitution itself. you know, um the 2 thirds of the law is in the hands of the powerful, you know, if you're, if you're a governing, if you're running, if you're residing, if you are controlling the army, you can get away with a lot more. and then if you're in opposition, so a lot do depend on what happened in the last election. but if the democrats are still in power, no way, nobody's going to be you have not blinking, not anybody from the bike and administration just come present power. also,

i doubt it, i mean, you know, to all buddy buddy with with the b and, and the a, you know, on the menu june of off of and giving him design it to be giving a lot of money from being crushed in time and so on. so no i, i don't have any, any really expectation of anybody if they can and kind of, if you're not a problem at all, or even on a comfortable don to you that i don't think don't happen. and unfortunately, maybe so think of the breaks coolage. can you see though, that given how west in your is facing economic collapse in itself sanctioning for the proxy war through ukraine? the systems, for instance, has written this largest manufacturer. the americans have been quite open about the use of keynesian militarism to help with their economy. as if weaponry is the only business in town. the will that never be say, is a valid excuse for all the floor to a way of watching and guys are in jerusalem. is it benefits the shareholders in

a lot of people are making money from, from wards and you know, this is known throughout history. the wallet cheaper and, and the military, the industry labs, or the end, 4th floor and lobbies for their, you know, the experimenting on our children and our women in our men and our human being on buildings is gone. so uh yes, i mean i, i don't the, anybody, you know, putting of the stop to drawers or to the and people are making so much money come on. so yeah, i mean, good luck on that one. i mean, it's about a city and christian, why do you think this? british american european union on bombing of churches in guys is not getting any uh, any ad time on those great christian channels like fox news in the united states, around by we but mud, or what? well, why, why have the pleasure of christians in lebanon, not getting any time. you know, i think, you know, i hate to say this,

but the really propaganda in these amazingly powerful and they're so smart have hate to say to bracket and always talk defying fact. always saying, you know, we're really sorry about that happen guys. and we didn't really mean to attack the off, but the read me the fact that building next to the 3rd oldest church in because i would just didn't accidentally collateral damage or read after the, you know, there's hiding behind the inside the door and the basis of the house of all of which had proven to be company called, and publication and the bank. but this invalidates really do and sometimes he's ready, weeks and months after the day i might be or yours and, and sugar in your burns. but by that time, you know that i'd become part of the lower the prior to that they need via history . and as i told you about would work as well. and even they are fact checkers. if

you would share, you know, i yeah, i usually go by and said, yeah, children were burned. i saw a children, i saw pictures and then you did not. i didn't see a picture come on. you know, i lied so. so a easy way to come to the palestinian july the victims of genocide. so uh yeah, i think it's important. i mean does credit default for the used car and it's broken out publicly on the issue of, of the, the wine or an hour don't your worst night. oh, so he's got good data and we want an upgrade babies and draw the kids in front of the priest through guys that so i mean, the pump is saying that, but as you said, who's repeating that? who's actually republishing that? who is doing something about the nobody? yeah, well the death of attitude in the questions are something to do with the gospels. as far as i understand to, to, to expect that from the pope aptitude, dangers, to visit trump. uh,

who i suppose. and some people say is at least unpredictable compared to the predictability of how the goal is to harris. it has said nothing, you know, is doing a good job and only prevented from finishing the job by the bible, paris administration. i would uh, i mean, trump winning in the swing states, obviously, muslims in the spring states like michigan, definitely not going to vote for all that goes to our is the us election. what mean anything for the palestinians? will they be exterminated? regardless of that? no, i mean i, i think they're, you know, like we said, they're ready to, uh, to candidate to don't for paper because they're not listening. but i have faith in, in the people why they say on the left of instruct, liking al me or harris might not be

willing to take a stand how it goes. but i think she's the, she's taking a stand she completely supports as well. yes, i understand, i understand, but she's nothing power. yeah. we don't know what happens when people go, but by doing is deeply engraved and they deeply involved in his design. and then we've got to publicly state design and i think hired, so it'd be we craven by doing. and therefore, might be more willing to do this in to some of the people on the left, like bernie sanders and other than would be pushing no shortly shortly she'd be weak. so to be able to be manipulated by the military industrial complex that is a being we anyways, i think most people are the same. you know, as i said there's, there's no a, the easy answer on this issue. but i do think that 085. i mean, i'm not, here's the opposite. now you know, things are moving so quickly. november's election might be too far. gutierrez,

celebrated brakes with the me, a persian in the rush of this week. i reduce the roll for the un. now, i mean, ones that are on eliminates is rail, which it has the capability to do none of these fad besides systems. what they can take 48 down from this guy. i think we run is hundreds that it could launch and destroy israel in a few moments at what will the role of the u. n. b. now, and you see it changing now that will have some kind of the brakes will replace you in or? no, i think that's the, i mean i, you know what, i would like to see that i'm seeing apart a lot of changing, but i don't have a lot of hope in that. i my only hope we didn't people and people that stood pressed. now when people, a huge car gave me the most courageous people in the world are people in gaza or standing up to the road to the dentist side. so i don't,

i don't glad i don't put much hope in anything else. um, but the people and you know, we're seeing social media has done so much more important work than, than, than the pro is riley proper gotten if they have g right or media so and that falls under the people power and that's what i believe. and i don't believe in government power that even people power, but it's been a high price. you're paying a very, very high price in lives and in public needs. and then future. i mean the, you know, the destruction all of our future. but i do have, it's do i have hoping people around the world not just empowerment. i'm seeing students around the world, we're seeing them demonstrations around the world. i do have hope in people not in government including but i mean yeah, they great if they can get over all the internal differences, but i,

my hope is that people progress down to job. thank you. that's it for the show. continued condolences to those surviving the u. k. u. s. u on to all the costs will be back on monday and have us read finality of us at the end of the world when russia in the usa. would you miss owls from cuba? and jackie, we'll be talking about secret supplies and him in a new day with an officer of science and theoretical because this prevents as you want, breakable until then keep in touch my role that social media, if it's not sensitive in your country, and then to watch i don't going undergrad, cv hon, they'll come to watch new and old episodes of going underground. see you monday the the the,

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