the, the i'm asked sooner than see and welcome back to going underground will go single around the world from a u. a e family bought at the brick family off the president. mom had been side a lot, had match with for letting me a put him in moscow before a groundbreaking, somebody in russia with leaders of china, iran, india, and the myriad of the geo political powers of this century. here in this region, the u. k. u. s. a u armed holocaust continues exacerbated by the visits of i'm supply, circle, butcher, blinking us secretary of state who was brought up by account veto of a most at spy with just days before a probable donald trump victory all across harris and they're ailing the. the genocide joe have now deployed the american boots on the ground to ensure the genocide is being a plan decades in the making by them 1st envisaging mass extermination as early as during the summer and should see the massacre of 198211. and joining me now from

amman, jordan is for president would, could top calling this for our music monitor. and so i'm a professor of journalism at princeton university. press a good job. thank you so much clear. then that is right. the jews are not fleeing. want fleeing israel, i believe it's now a fight to the death support for netanyahu at old time. i's design is regime in d. c. giving another $5200000000.00 of us, public money to israel and nothing but the weapons from the puppet states of western europe. yeah, well you know this the time to buy age or by the us or many years to say that there were an honest broker has all been exposed. and there is no honest broker in the, onto this all during the clear a supporter. and you said, what pay supply? i mean the key key word is supplying weapons as long as it's roads getting weapons from the us. when you gain from other countries, they will continue to fight. they will continue to shoot. they'll continue to bomb pavilion today without any worry about it. accountability,

and that's really the problem we have now is the danger national regina basically dissolved into not doing anything and yet the crime. yeah. they are going to put functions in boy cards and everything else. i'm like, you know, we have a, a dual problem here. we have a popular see we have that is dealing with 2 different complex areas and you're in english, there's occupation in 2 opposite ways. one is reporting the occupier and one opposing isn't rushing. so we have that with a genuine problem with the international order now, and i think you said there's no really interesting difference between the 2 candidates for the us elections. now, you know, headlines here in dubai, the president of the you a, a m b z. and b 's ed and president putin did the brick summit, come to light him, cause on rush or this week and don't many coming in propaganda media or in nature

countries. but did it come too late to present investigating if we're on also that with the representatives and saudi arabia, and of course, as the u. a and russia and china did it come too late? will the palestinians mean exterminated? by the time all these countries come together to oppose us hedge a monic genocide as well. i mean, i wish it was an easy i don't think even the sports coalition is that kite. i mean they, they have different opinions on the us and i think that'd be the only thing with the agree on a, to find a currency either in the us dollar. and that's why we see the gold and shooting up a many places because that's where the bread is all about. it is finding a common mean different than the us dollar. but on the, i don't expect them to be much different than that. and we've expected they've been

talking, they've been fighting, but i don't think that they will create the kind the polishan we all want, which is to create that. and this one called a world of washington basically does take you through the rest of the world. i don't know if we don't succeed in that, but clear the rush or and china are on the side of the palestine that they russians have been knowing iran. i mean us elections just over a week away with the united states bomb iran when it responds to whatever and yahoo does and begins kidding americans soldiers on the ground because of course it, joe biden, and hatteras have put that in. come out of harris, have deployed us troops on the ground who will be killed by rainy and strikes a. yeah, i the very interesting. good. uh, i'm reading the woodward book on one and the every chapter in american think. no, no. so there's no voice on the ground, you know, crane. yeah,

but here we clearly have it within the ground that the trending the indigenous population against unoccupied, like reporting at gymnast hydro corporation. so it's very a single critical what the american stands for and yes, your right to and if and when the ready to carry out any kind of attack on the wrong one will not be quiet. and you know, in the detroit that what's gonna happen after that, you won't get american be involved in the same situation or to be transferred to agents. especially if it's happening right at the turn of the elections and whatever. i will happen. whether it will be clear election, no contested election results is dawn. it's, we're entering a kind of, um, like a very strange zone or the next month or so. and the god, god help us all, i mean is going to be at blood the footboard november. unfortunately, yeah,

uh baldwood was, i can't remember whether he was robert redford or dustin hoffman in the watergate field in washington uh, buying cars, which one was it? i got remember, but uh, the entire bill too. i know that on to the blinking the himself and bill bugs, they're all reading that book you're reading at upstairs. did you find, i mean, it's lies on ukraine, the palpable. but we need to envisage the fact that somehow the patriot results assume could bring down a new radian hypersonic miss. uh, a boldwood with just an idiot. tories just as dental prefer. clearly getting the soul, you know, the, i yeah, the book interesting reading could be big for your side. we don't try to advertise in. yeah. obviously no, by that, i'm just saying that a, i was a little bit of criticizing because the, you know, unfortunately, even though call, you know, profession as jordan, it's tied into a lot of trucks to these, ready to put them and he repeats the design is the narrative that to handle a bright children will be headed and you know,

the match the rate to face all of that has been disproven. i don't know why he would put it in his book. we've, i don't know who's doing the fact checking, but there's so many documented posted august, the narrative stuff. it is not proven. and then when it comes to the baptist hospital or the, the, the own and controlled by charged the bob board. good. this is a hospital as if it's, you know, and they kind of a new terrain. they doesn't want to show the american pursue that there is a christian community and god has been, bonded been, uh, cannot do that. the children and women are being nice by sniper. uh so yes, i mean, as i said, it's a, you know, it might be color for reading, but it's far away from the actual issue. yeah, baldwood would pay by robert redford in all the president's men. was the film by pacola, the fact that he can do that defensive, that and repeat the lies about beheaded babies on october. the 7th means that he

believes it's probably not best to blame the publisher. after all symptomatic of the fact that deletes in the united states are either propagandized or just outwardly backing the genocide or what is do you know, it doesn't matter whether they believe it or not. if it's not true and you publish it, you put yourself in a, in a never a bad position book has his name on it. and when you talk about bern, didn't charge the children and right torment and so on. and anyone who's been doing any research would easily fact check that to be incorrect. i mean, i think he, he's far into the cop for the or a believes it or not. i really don't care what he thinks. what would be, do i care with in the printed book? i mean, the printed book in makes these lie, then he repeats them without even attempting to say allegedly, or whatever. you know, the word that i mean we need to fix it as apple granted. and never the last, it didn't interesting the double cab quite a quite

a negative view of the draining day in a number of places. they say 50 percent of the time these read instead of the entire rev intel on the as they have talked to be incorrect. so even in that, even despite all, this is the thing that a lot of the things in the book, a lot of that a claims made by the very least to the american are lies. and they still continued to give them weapons and to believe their lives, they were like trying to find ways to help them out and make it better, a plan. and yeah, but you know, assuming and so on and the grading so no, we're not gonna do that. we're going to go through that info and they accept that as being. okay. well, whenever you say, you know, the type of thing or do you really know what, what it would be the result of all this, you're using a lot of popular support, big deal. and so, yes, i mean, i think it's very interesting to see some of the internal, especially with the communities around the us. and again,

as i said in the beginning of the show, there's no a neutral observer here. and americans are fully under present fully connected with a they're not an honest nor a broker. and why do, did anyone believe that they were, after all as well? anyway, i was wrong with all these. do you are a professor of journalism or the gen this just a lazy and incompetent or do they do? they won the extermination of palestinian suddenly reading the propaganda present nato countries. it assume you'd assume reading the washing of both of the new york times that the editors that want them all the babies will uh, without heads and gaza. yeah. you know, i, yes, i think is there a mixture of wanting to believe these reading or anything they are now and i tried at night, but also uh i would say and premeditated down to, to show the bias of the draperies. and in some small cases, they didn't, i mean,

some of the germans, it just lazy and they don't know the extra effort of just ongoing. so when these issues that can clearly uh, pro that's what they're saying is wrong. so on all these cases, i faxed it, i don't care what their motivation is, whether they believe it or not, whether they are, they do or not, they're publishing lives and they're, and they're actually keeping, you know, one of the think the, nobody's talking about it now is the next thing the foreign journal has been in does up for over a year. there's no war in the world. the name, even in the, you know, in the last century, all war is there a german, me, this is a one more. there is no foreign journal. yeah. local journalists are being killed every other day, but are in german based on the and, and these varies are getting away with the narrative because there's nobody to kind of correct or at least just have to correct. well concord concourse news just being

given imbedded with these really a occupation for. yeah, but that's not journalism. that's the propaganda. you're going to go that you're in . but the point that i'm trying to say is, normally, if am somebody from the bbc or cnn, or with ever abc our, you know, a french television is not allowed to go to iran and restore. and you're on, you will see super close on video who are joining this was not allowed by the running government to entering to dance around or ever. we don't see that one. they are covering guys that they don't have the all of you in the way. you don't have good right through the admin and you can be there and to check out whether it's visit or not. but the problem that we have president, good job, i'll stop you that more from the reviews and how long have you call them is after this, right? the

what else seemed wrong? just don't you have to shape out the application and engagement because the trails when so many find themselves will support, we choose to look so common ground the the welcome back to going underground. i'm still here with people the professor of journalism at princeton university, that would good job provides a good job. you were saying, john, this could at least a nature of countries bullet to google things in fan is google isn't caught out. all of those agencies that they're helping be is really genocide in the middle east . i want to ask you what you think of the fact that while m b 's ed was we'd like

to be a push in that it will be noticed in the, in washington for the brakes plus summit and m b s a part of the report saying that the gc countries will not allow their occupying bases in these countries to be used for any is really red talley tree attack against the rod. what dangers there are full actually, not just in the, our world all around the world. what dangers there off of states that oppose blinking sullivan biden hatteras, a sponsor genocide in in garza, in just a good question. i think the, your dns of office that they will not allow their interface with you. i think also, i'm sure the diction have the same position. so, you know, the american have bases in, i've never gotten another basis and we don't know whether these bases would be used to, to carry out the attack a, if there is an attack on the, on the but the,

you know, the problem, of course happens also on the other side, one of the line is i try to refund it off, it will create a number, unfortunately an opportunity for a couple of the why stimulatory i live in, in there, in the region to participate in their already parts of their already 5 dissipating britain is participating from cyprus, so as the united today actually to france and germany are in new, us are all based in the middle east and they are a entertainment re put fixing the ease riley's in there. you know, it's funny, you know, what countries have a right to self determination. only their name is right. everybody else doesn't have that, right. does it have students don't have a right to defend themselves? every one you don't have to write it up and you don't have that right on the east, right? as of right. and a, you know, as the un mission about the tourist and hope you find countries don't have the right to have the don't nation. it's the people under occupation will have

a right to resistance, but people who are occupying don't have that right. they don't, aaron. that by they are not ready to enter occupation, but as long as they're occupier, they don't have that. right. yeah, because it was some room is the jordan was used in recent weeks by a defective for israel. uh, yes, of course. i mean, uh, you know, this is a situation we have where logic, international law, i'm, you know, if you want to call it is 203 uh, unbelievably a roaming the garbage can. nobody's even paying attention to it. there's no accountability you were in there. you know, in a very funny don't uh, you know, he's read doing whatever you want and nobody told me that comfortable. is it too soon then i mean, we can all see the pictures on social media. i think the, the musk uh we have one is a big debt too because he's not censoring the pictures of the brutality of the

british american european weapons raining down on that, mostly women and children and gaza. is it too soon to start thinking then of, of international justice system abiding hours, blinking sullivan, hostile need to be jailed or faced some sort of nuremberg style of justice, often november's elections for what they've done, you know, and the us, the york law is very interesting law that says that any country that the present you mind is hearing a cannot get any interaction a from new york. okay. all right, so you're all, there is no way that you could hide it. so what happened in the last period? the blinking light, literally light and denied that new jersey is banning your mind. is there any, i mean, the minister of defense of the stands is the, are dead. we're not allowing anything in, in the book of buckboard your day. you know, and if you look at the ranking,

not the drop, not the single, you know, medisave, we're not going to let any food. and maybe they just either act and yet blinking in his report to do the pilot in which he applies to do, wrote the new address, did not the prevent humanitarian a what a lie or now now bank it was saying to days, ready? drop this time? you know, you don't have to do, you have to allow some food into the order of guys that because basically i can keep trying. i can put myself in a situation where i've been called on already line for you guys and kinda keep doing that. that's unbelievable. what's happening in the us and growing even your own internal log into the garbage and just to protect the pieces these red. so you, so you think perhaps they will face just as eventually though for what they've done . tell me you're saying, well, thinking not thinking, i mean i do it as a violation that a lot of lee, he lives on supplying weaponry. you just as another $5200000000.00 to that and

yahoo or a, the us constitution itself. you know, um the 2 thirds of the law is in the hands of the powerful, you know, if you're, if you're a governing, if you're running, if you're a residing, if you are controlling the army, you can get away with a lot more. and then if you're in opposition, so a lot do depend on what happened in the last election. but if the democrats are still in power, no way, nobody's going to be, you have not blinking, not anybody from the bye. didn't administration to come present power. also, i doubt it, i mean, you know, to all buddy buddy with, with the b and, and the a, you know, on the menu june of also been giving him designing, giving a lot of money from being crushed in time and thought, i don't know, i, i don't have any, any reading expectations or by anybody if they thing and kind of, if you're not a problem at all, or even local accountability,

i don't see that. i don't think don't happen. and unfortunately, maybe so think of the breaks coolage. can you see though, that given how west in your, is facing economic collapse in itself sanctioning for the proxy war through ukraine? the systems, for instance, has written this largest manufacturer. the americans have been quite open about the use of keynesian militarism to help with their economy. as if weaponry is the only business in town, the will that never be the is a valid excuse for all the floor to where watching and guys are in jerusalem is it benefits the shareholders in a lot of people are making money from, from wards and you know, this is known throughout history, the war way cheaper and, and the military, the industry labs or the and supports war and lobbies for their, you know, they experimenting on our children and our women as our menu and our human being on buildings is gone. so uh yes, i mean i, i don't the, anybody, you know,

putting of the stop to the drawers or to the and people are making so much money. come on. so. yeah, good luck on that one. i mean, it's about a city and christian, why do you think this? british american european union on bombing of churches in guys is not getting any uh, any ad time on those great christian channels like fox news in the united states room by we but mud. okay. what will, why, why are the play the christians in lebanon, not getting any time? you know, i think, you know, i hate to say this, but the really propaganda in these amazingly powerful and are so smart, i hate to say to bracket and always talk defying fact. always saying, you know, we're really sorry about that happen guys. and we didn't really mean to attack the off, but the read me the fact that building next to the 3rd oldest church in because i

would just didn't accidentally collateral damage or read after the, you know, there's hiding behind the inside the door in the basement of the house and all of which had proven to be company called on fabrication and the bug. but this invalidates really do and sometimes he's ready, weeks and months after the day i might be where yours are and children your burns, but by that time you know that i'd become part of the lord that part of the immediate history. and as i told you about would work as well and even they would pack checks that you would share, you know, i yeah, i usually go by and said, yeah, children were burnt. i saw a children, i saw pictures and then you did not. i didn't see a picture come on, you know, i lied so it's so easy when it comes to the palestinian july, the victims of genocide. so uh yeah, i think it's important. i mean, does credit the appropriate use are and it's broken out publicly on the issue of,

of the, the wine or an hour don't your worst night of so he's got good data and we went in an upgrade and babies in the drawer, all the kids in front of the priest through guys that so i mean the pump is saying that, but as you said, who's repeating that? who's actually republishing that? who is doing something about that? nobody yeah, well the death of attitude in the questions are something to do with the gospels. as far as i understand, since you'd expect that from the pope aptitude, dangerous to visit trump, uh who uh, i suppose some people say is at least unpredictable compared to the predictability of how it goes. the harris has said nothing, you know, is doing a good job and only prevented from finishing the job by the by various administration. i would uh, i mean, trump winning in the swing states, obviously, muslims in the spring states like michigan definitely not going to vote for all goes to iris the u. s. election. what mean anything for the palestinians?

will they be exterminated regardless of that? no, i mean i, i think they're, you know, like we said they're ready to, uh, to candidate to don't for paper because they're not listening. but i have faith in, in the people why they say on the left of this the, i think al me or harris might not be willing to take a stand how it goes. but i think she was taking a stand. she completely simple. it's is right. yes. i understand, i understand, but she's nothing power yet. we don't know what happened when people go, but by doing is deeply engraved and they deeply involved in his zine and that to publicly state design and, and i think hired. so it'd be we craven by doing and therefore might be

more willing to do this and to some of the people on the left like bernie sanders and others who would be pushing no shortage. shortly she'd be weak. so to be able to be manipulated by the military industrial complex that is a being we, this is what i think most people are going to see. and, you know, as i said there's, there's no a, the easy answer on this issue. but i do think that we're a family now novices. that's it. now you know, things are moving so quickly. november's election might be too far. gutierrez, celebrated brakes with the that'd be a boost in, in the rush of this week. we do see a roll for the un. no, i mean ones that are on eliminates is rail, which it has the capability to do none of these fad besides systems. what they can take 48 down from this guy. i think we run is hundreds that it could launch and destroy as well in a few moments at what will the role of the u. n. b a now and you see it changing

now that will have some kind of the brakes will replace you in. you know, i think that's the, i mean i, you know what, i would like to see that a single part of the world changing, but i don't have a lot of hope in that. i my only hope we didn't people and people that stood pressed. now, when people a huge party giving the most or just people in the world, are people in gaza or standing up to the move to the dentist side. so i don't, i don't glad i don't put much hope in anything else. um, but the people and you know, we're seeing social media has done so much more important work than, than, than the pro is riley proper gotten if they have g right or media so at that falls under the people power. and that's what i believe. and i don't believe in government power that even deeper power, but it's been a high price. you're paying

a very, very high price in lives, in public needs and then future. i mean the, you know, the destruction all of our future. but i do have, it's do have hope, the people around the world, not just empowerment. i'm seeing students around the world of seeing them demonstrations around the world. i do have hope in people not in government including but i mean yeah, they great if they can get over all the internal differences, but i, my hope is that people progresses down to job. thank you. and that's it for the show, continued condolences to those surviving the u. k. u s. u and all the costs will be back on monday and have us read finality of us at the end of the world when russia in the usa. would you miss owls from cuba? and jackie, we'll be talking about secrets lies and him in a new table with an author of science and theological because this prevents as you want, breakable until then keep in touch my role as social media, if it's not sensitive in your country. and then to watch,

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