tv Cross Talk RT October 28, 2024 10:30am-11:01am EDT
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welcome to the prospect of old ones. were all things considered on people about the beginning of the end or the end of the beginning? how should we understand israel strike on iran also is the wes opening new friends against russia in they'll dover and georgia to discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the guy is always gonna be bound on youtube and locals and assemble. we cross through that 80 a mob p as a story and, and political commentator razzolink prospect roles and effect. that means you can jump any time you want and i always appreciated. all right, let's go to george that kick it up. well judge me is real, finally did strike against the ran. it was a weak. so type a very, a harsh rhetoric. obviously escalation was in the air and it was well known that um, depending on the strike that he ran would return. and so he would go up the escalation ladder. well, the strike did happen, but what does it mean to you,
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george? well, if it's a very good question, it's um, uh, if it's there was surprisingly restrained when it comes to it as well. so therefore we have to try to explain why was israel so restrained? well, one of this, um possibility is that uh there is a us selection taking place as well as watching who is going to prevail on um, on in november and will um, act accordingly. so i think that was um, uh, was one of the, uh, account to nations. i think that is real probably decided to give a bite and the break. and if it is possible that how those rules acted in the less risk rain, where have you actually gone for the uh, oil refineries. maybe they would have been, uh, some people quitting this um with the washington. it's get some, we don't yet know,
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i mean, but we'll find out later what we'll do as far as what the run we'll do in the short term probity run won't do very much in the longer term. i think you run well in the move towards some kind of a nuclear capability, because this is the situation is clearly unacceptable due around this lee, those whereby and it's in the cross hairs of to usually a policy as well in the united states. and it has no means of defending it, so you have to take also the what as the result of the balance of power has not really changed. i mean, the israel, i agree with george. i think there are political considerations when it comes to washington. but is real house to start seriously thinking about what it needs to go up the escalation letter, because it's never had to do this before. it is always been able to attack its neighbors with impunity. now it's a lot more complicated take yes,
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i agree with the last point. you may definitely understand it correctly. i would only draw the opposite conclusion from me. that's what i would say. the balance of power has changed. okay, tens of course microstates as quote is what i from beach it has changed. i think it is changed in the sense that, that we have seen is through this training. it's sort of so as not to be too hot too soon, but around. so one way you can see this is x c also away in bits. iran has proven that it can to an extent already deter it is right, right. we don't bought the right now or later. i think that's absolutely true, but might be didn't. is that the least trained on the is very the side we can explain to, to an extent probably, i think george is right. the considerations that have to do with the usa. but also i think we should forget that they also have to calculate the reading and response . right?
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and i do think there's an element in which the base science of shifted. same silver has a text for the 1st time, which was a very my is the attack, right. and then for the 2nd time, this was a little bit most serious. we have seen that iran kinda makes so it's some pressure on this, but it has also suffered setbacks. it's made clear because as well, i has in many ways take losses. but not only, but my sense is that iran has actually proven that its position is stronger than say, a few years ago. and again, i agree with george that for the wrong and leadership. the key question now is, i'll be going to act on this. now if i was having a nuclear arsenal, or are we going to acquire nuclear weapons 1st or? yeah and, and, and i think it's, there's almost an inevitability here about that. but that's a subject for another problem. george it's, it's really interesting when we look over the last year. and the question is,
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all we've just been why doesn't define any ministration, exert leverage over israel, since israel is a little virtually solely dependent on you with arms and diplomatic support. but, but there is news opinion and commentary that the, by the administration actually did exert a lot of pressure on israel, on how it would retaliate. which brings up a very interesting and very disturbing question if it's true. because if they have leverage over israel, when it comes to broadening the war into the region, why doesn't it apply the same or the genocide in gaza? i mean, it is, it's a, it's a truly disturbing thing to consider being name of a will exert pressure to stop genocide, but they will exert pressure to stop the expansion of a war your thoughts. and that's an excellent point because it does look as if,
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as you say, that the buy number is ration did, exerts a lot of pressure on israel thing this situation now before is have they hadn't done anything. so if we look at why is it done it now, then you have to think it's in terms of election calculations that the probably figuring that if israel, what the launch a very serious attack on the around including attacks on uh, oil facilities, including maybe even the tax on the nuclear facilities, then this would trigger any rainy and response. and this will home a combo harris's re election process because it will say they look, everything is out of control. you brains out of control in middle east is out of control. i need to read renown negatively against huck. now they need to answer your question then why, you know, why did they think that? because that's the way they all that's,
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that's what matters to them. they really don't care very much about of the appliance of guns, that palestinians, them today very much about 11 on his ball or anything else. so they only thing they care about is the checkbooks, the jobs, the or the office holders. and so this is, this is the reason why that on this occasion was one occasion they got quite agitated because of basically they said they thought that this will damage them. uh, the combo harris's election prospect. and botanical also, it kind of confirms things that we've talked about in the recent past is that when it comes to hit gemini, the us has a supremacy. but when it comes to re they the reading details about how to maintain in a id. unfortunately, a genocide is part of the, you know, making the sausage. you mean, you know, the us wants to maintain the hedge, a monic, a controlling in the region or
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a end or deny others the how to gemini in the region, which i think is really important. that's a denial of policy as well. but if you know it again, we showed this how it kind of dovetails as long as it promotes a gemini, western, and gemini everything is else is just fine. everything else as it gets kind of embarrassing detail. now i look, i, i think that's all true. well, you have said, well, george had said, i would add something, we're just going to what, what i see. and, but the also seeing is that the usaa administration progressively, the blog, whatever you call them, right? they will give a damn about the genocide, the genocide, especially of brown people that does not matter to them. right. this is the aspect of tomorrow dimension, which is incredibly important and horrendous to look at how far they go. it's not totally surprising, but every time they act out like this, it still shopping,
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right? but these are political deadlines. some s y, which is interesting. this is they don't give with them about the global south. because look, even if they are told of cynics and months to switch, they are. and they don't care about the murder of children at the murder of civilians. they could still think, yeah, it looks very bad to most of humanity. so we have to do something about that and adjust to that and what they've demonstrated over a year now is that they don't even care about this. and i think what this shows is that this american struggle to preserve the empire at the dyna empire as i think central pacific gemini, everybody in the word is not on the boat. it's always been built. it's incredibly short sight events to pick now, which makes you as incredibly dangerous country, the lotteries, trained as of the morality, or even by a tiny bit of rationality. last thing is working any more in my view. well,
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in charge to add to the pessimism the teddy just expressed here. when we see a country like israel squandering a path to the people that are dead and in gaza, our children and this is a genocide against children. then we see the long destruction of whole neighborhoods in, in lebanon, and they root. but this is a, a power that has nuclear weapon. so mean the big, the big, the nightmare scenario, the new killer age is that you know, a, a rogue states or a non state after would get their hands on one. but there is a, there is a lunatic state that has nuclear weapons committing genocide. so this should be the most terrifying bar in our time, but it's not to george. no, it isn't because of the extraordinary unreserved support that there is for a israel. and therefore it is well believes,
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but it can get away with everything. now, you know, when it was there has to say that the israel's neighbors have not exactly covered themselves in glory um over the past 12 months because no one, no one out of state that have had diplomatic relations with israel. no, one of them actually even went so far as the break of diplomatic relations while i'm just said, okay, well that's it. no, no, no diplomatic relations. and again, when we come to all the powers in a way, you know, with where, where are other policy or where, where's that, where's the brakes? westbrooks coming along here, resolve this plan here is we're proposing a conference. everybody has to show up all this piece conference they've, they've put in the field when it can be ukraine. they created a phony baloney peace conference on, on ukraine. i mean, it doesn't indicate anything, but nonetheless, it was a police like a good, a global public relations stand. you're going to do exactly the same here we need. and so kind of
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a peace officer is what has been able to get away with everything because they haven't been sufficient count of anything forces. and of course the americans. well yeah, the, the america gave the blank check to is what it's always given a blank check to as well. and it is always, well as if things continue the way they are towards brings up a, a very, very important point is the culpability of the entire international system here. and this is a condemnation of it to something, something certainly coming to an end. what's coming into being, it's hard to say gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. i'm ready to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real mistake with our tea. the take a fresh look around is life kaleidoscopic, isn't just a shifted reality distortion, by how of tired vision with no real opinions. fixtures
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the the welcome act across that bullhorn design people available here were discussing some real news. teddy, when they go back to you 1st here, we just had a problem entry election in georgia. it was a boom proceeding a was to move on tight, 5050. it was a georgians, were presented with a russian future or radian future with b, e u in western values and everything. it was highly propagandized reading western media and it was, it's coverage was deplorable. i mean, really, i mean, we're all critics of western media, but in reading and some of these things just was extraordinary biased and, and highly politicized here. but the,
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the george and people have spoken of the ruling party in georgia. dream did. well, i think it did better than far the more than what the polls said. but of course, the opposition called file. so we could see something like they might done uh from 2014 in ukraine. your thoughts here because it and i want to dump tail it into what we have in recent election. we have overprint from end and we had in, in molto. but go ahead cody, you know, the, the stronger over georgia life has been going on now for at least since 2008, you could say right. and it's a geo political stronger, most so far. it's not a struggle about the values as all, but it's the values of the packaging and bundle. every body was huffily. intelligent should have caught up to that, right. it's, it's no longer fresh. it's a very old propaganda tricks that we are exposed to again. and what is that, if you look at the origin dream, but you know,
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i have no stake in georgia politics at all. but as far as i have read up on the georgia dream is hardly actually a pro russian party. but georgia dream is there are no real rush at parties in georgia incentive for you to do bro rock direction properties like what every month . but that's the problem. but georgia, dream really stands for is totally extend, retain a balance of balance that could actually be very different ages and has the for georgia. the georgia can work with russia, lift china, not to be forgotten, but fits it's building important relationships and is the best grease, which is always the problem. that's the best. it would also be open to working this device because look at the way that the relationship between them. once i have to ask them to you in georgia on the other side, has to be slightly develop. all the aggressive steps have literally come from the you the commission, and i'm from the american government that's being pressed on sanctions money. it has to be before the funds that you're, as from that you,
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we've had brady to elect somebody to few months on the side of the ego, which basically was trying to leverage, reuse of privileges to tired of georgia. and i thought you will georgia dream out, or you will get you a visa, prove it, it just any more. it was very, very clear of what was going on. the best georgians reimburse at one point retaliating to every talk, read to record shop writing response. but if you look at the fundamental process since they already developed this every once. and the little problem in the past is, and this was done to ukraine as a way to exec is the same thing in 2013. and we have the problem is that the best says it's only us. you cannot work with everybody. you must have owned the us. it's like so close a relationship. and personally, whatever else happens in georgia, i am on the side of those who think it's much better to maintain a balance to relationship impact, to your political situation. because the other thing that can happen to you is your
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rate in future is going to be that of ukraine. exactly. and i think that's what have so many journey we have august 2008 that. that is a recent memory, george of you know, and i, before i forget with being the outrages selection broad in moldova, where the russian data, the, the, the aspirate and russia of what was effectively blocks from participating, most likely, would have made the difference here. but, and even the, all of that electioneering, and it was that we have the results. well, you know, it was razors that we can leave it at the george, me with this is really all about is the european values, the euro with land taken off, you know, whole beds kind of soft and fuzzy stuff here. this is all the process of inducting georgia and we'll go back into nato. that's the only thing they care about. the rest of it is just life. go ahead, george. the best advice exactly right. anyone remembers the rule of the 2008 ward
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in georgia and he was directly tried go to buy the book or a summit. the problem is nato membership, the ukraine and to georgia, georgia in u. o sat, gosh, really the president there, georgia, at the time you the georgia could not to join nato as long as it had on result on conflicts on his 3rd trip. so successfully took it upon himself. he saw that as a signal from need so that hey, i can now resolve my problems in georgia and then i'll be good to go from membership of a nature. i just probably given indications by us secretaries. they come to lease or rice, but yeah, go ahead. you know, do it, you know, rushes preoccupied with a lot of other things. this is your moment. so there is no question. this is what the goal is here in georgia and in bold over. and of course, there's also the question of opening up in the front against russia because,
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you know, if there was to be some kind of a problem. again, as in 2008 himself will say to posit up or if the logo is going to be a problem with trans new strip. so there's going to be difficult for russia. i mean, ross is very preoccupied with ukraine and they wouldn't be as little as easy as it was in 2000 a to a to handle that crisis. and they to knows this. and that's why that's the only value of a georgia envelope. but these are 2 poor countries, but they, they are in a strategic location of georgia is a very strategic location. i mean, it's, uh, is the houston uh coast of the black sea. it's a neighboring target neighbors as it by john. so clearly this is something that's a great value to a nato. so all or is about values of l g, b, g q, right? so the, uh, the foreign it agents registration act bull a is just
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a lot of hard. yeah. but then goes back to your original question, the people, what's going to happen now? well, we know that the opposition has already cried. file the media already a bumping oxygen into these planes. i fully expect you today to say absolutely, though this was a completely bogus election. this was stolen. you need to cancel it immediately. and the, the, the georgia and president who was going to parachute it in to be as a pro wes, than riley. you will need to match up with these cries in georgia in president who is a french citizen, correct, who is a french citizen, the who is born and lived all her life in france and took it was a member of the strange civil service throughout her career only up on her retirement was did they grab up and dumped the into georgia? this doesn't mean doesn't even do to speak georgian, but the don't to that, to make sure that georgia maintained its pro western uh course. you know,
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teddy guy looked very closely at um, how the campaigns in moldova, in georgia and you know, what, i don't want to, you know, then surprise you or anything. but it was about corruption, energy security, inflation. this is what most voters were talking about. okay. you big, the current mold, open president, came in on an anti corruption platform, but he was running for reelection on, you know, the, the move to the west. i mean, are you banded have corruption to your band and the standard, the other be the energy crisis that moldova was it was, they created it themselves, they wanted, they wanted to up spot market prices for, for oil and gas and no, no, no, no, we don't do that, you know, no, well, no long term contracts with directions. you have to use spa. well, then when the prices go up, the poor country is poor. mm. okay. and that's the way you know, it's the,
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the way these campaigns were run is that they will slip back into russia's hands. well, if you look at both of them, what malls opens they actually, you know, border ukraine with a lot of them. don't want that to happen to them. the georgians already know what can happen in 2008. they want to be restrained as well. and the when, when approach that you, i'm uh, described earlier, i think that's what most people want. but the mandarins in brussels, in, in washington, se, nope, just exactly, we use, they only us go ahead and take, you know, i, i, i wonder also what we have next. in both cases might. and of course, i can only get some speculate, but concerning georgia funds and literally i know one have observed recently. my sense is that if that is an attempt by that you visor pass to parachute into use of people, martin wrote and so on and start a colored revolution again. i think they were faded in georgia. and i think that because they failed to talk to the transparency law and they,
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they pulled out all the stops. then, i mean, if you look at the demonstrations against the transparency law, those could easily have been turned into color revolution scenario. and i think they would have been turned into that if only they would have been able to do that . and i think they have tested the limits already and in the georgia in case my sense is the you in the west country. right. once again, a said life to do in georgia and other places, but i think they'd fade now as a model and chairs, i think, is a bit more complicated, possibly because of geographic location and positive because it seems to be that the incumbent of toe is already on the side of the best as a severe stopping from a different position. right? um again i it, it might be possible for you to, to force impose this policy on model. unfortunately, i don't think this is good for model, but my sense is they,
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they won't be able to do it in georgia and it's going to turn into them. not that you face the at the co op of course. um, of course the underlying problem is that every time these attempts made business a phase or in quotation marks succeed for the best, right. but as they fail to succeed in bringing down governments, they don't like. and then re aligning the geo politics of silver nations. every time they what a lot of damage in all of these scenarios, all of these societies suffer a lot of damage. and what we really need to see, it said at some point somebody forces the best to stop trying, not just to try and fade, but to still try. well, is that springs up really interesting calling because george, i just don't think it's in their dna. i. i, i think that they have such a myopic view of it, and they truly believe it's about democracy because the mind, media, nato, and democracy are the same thing. i mean, which is absurd,
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but i think in their mind, that's why i think it's very dangerous. and these people are not very nuanced at the end of the day. okay. um when in doubt, pilots, that's what this is. what's gonna happen? a hi, i agree with you, be the i, i the not capable of changing cause. so that's why we can already outline exactly what they're going to do. anything targeting may be right that, that they will fail. that even if they at us dot triggering violence, you know, we'll have the usual button buildings brand cause and then the media will regale us with a terrifying stories of police brutality. and then we'll hear from entity blinking about peaceful demonstrators and the george and really needs to re run the selection. all of that is probably the ruling a government um will prevail?
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not this question of then with, with the model though, because it goes we are, we still have, you know, the round to go the next uh, next week and we, you know, my assigned to and then again, since we already know that but, but that was what happened a week ago was a, was clearly a stolen election will be kind of interesting again, whether they're going to try and steal a big game in the 2nd round, maybe maybe a topic for next week's program here. but i think all 3 of us agree, buckle up, embrace for impact, or a gentleman that's all the time you know, but i want to thank my guess and the symbol, and in budapest and of course the one i think our viewers for watching us here at r t c. and next time. and remember across the apples, the
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