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ready to find out more about the, the mission, hopefully. and the history in the region the we know how to do a thing. they've been living with the situation since independence and the negative that the india would live with 2 months to reduce and all that is no longer willing to cite lation of like field nations. and then i'm gonna get sort of positive history on the, the kind of when it typical project we have luck from russia. i mean, technical things wouldn't have come from any of it as part of the weekly, uh, you know, really a job do it personally. and i think that is the source of great satisfaction, the

hello and welcome. my name is on a punk kid may come to the show better for the next hoffman odd or we will be talking all the things in the heart of the very special guest is a farmer. now the nami commander, known for his distinguished service and expertise in military strategy and national security, they come left him to another independence thing already. thank you. so i, that was also a way to say it over here. so also on a to be talking to you left in a general depend to seeing who is a highly decorated former indian army officer with a career spanning 40 years he served as a northern army come under from 2014 to 2016, overseeing the 2016 surgical strikes and practiced on other key military operations, particularly in jumbo and kashmir. he's also served in the united nation submission in ethiopia and eritrea. after retiring, he contributed significantly, shaping in these national security strategy by leading a congress appointed task force to develop

a comprehensive security doctrine in 2019. so i grew up with the amazing patriotic feelings. wonderful. uh, and then what i see, and i mean off is that i feel like that'd be good. i was born after the ideas of independence. do you see the same fashion for army? you know, among the common people? yeah. do this or the, i mean, if you, if you actually look at the way that it goldman drive, these are out of handling the numbers of people who come up, the kind of enthusiasm that is there to, to join them. and every forward says, and i think go with the what has not weakened is this, you know, the see pause right in uniform. the desire to do well. so i mean, these are, these are issues that really i think you, but i mean really consistent then very good. i isn't even for the motivation lecture to india and so colored glasses, it was amazing. so solving. so when you go for the train,

the way did you do you finish reading. so i was exactly 16 years old when i joined the national defense, i graduate and i have the uniform but i was 60 years old. i mean almost all of my life as being in uniform and you would, you would also not the 1st person from the armed forces in your family. in my family i was my father was in the army, my little brother was in the army. so this like a sort of natural progression that, you know, issue home. so that the guy in the, our but did you want to do something else? or you were happy to be here, you know, just just out of school and then straight into india and nice. all that near to you mind it's yes, it is amazing. it's unbelievable. it means a made elective. huh. so the, the, to a 2500 people get, it's sitting there straight. first of all, uh i, i usually use a lot of human in my speeches, but to do it like that. so often the whole thing about the commodity said it was a successful lecture. i said, no, no, the action. you said nobody's sleep,

nobody slip. yeah, i think it takes me through all the major success. that's amazing how successful in support of 40 or draining the 3 is in t as in india, and then we do one year that i mean they're doing so adult dining redeem is for you as a new one in june can for the very, very important period of us, yes. how help i just want to understand in a, in a situation that when you have to deal with people who are the enemies of the country and you have to strategize, what goes, what is the one point that goes on in your mind? so basically, i think, you know, that is i and you have a clear objective in the military that you have some listed to me. and i think that's remains that are for most of the all you have planning to do it. objective is very, a big deal is to bring these finish out there to them and you're going this way and then all your actions. i did that accordingly with that, with that single minded focus and object and not

a good reason on the application. has it really had yes, if that's it, as do elaborate how so it's as you know, whilst it was, have significant be very significantly come down. i think the negative that the india would live with a 2 constitutions which really wasn't possible within the state. you mind have gilmore and actually it having a separate constitution and a separate constitution for the country. some separate this tendencies, that dental is because of this different constitutional arrangements. i think all of that has all that, all that is all gone. and then there's some people who sort of, we are in a free country, people have a, of opinion about everything. but what do you personally feel when somebody criticizes me in the country? look, you know, you obviously, you obviously sort of feel bad about that when i think we have professional enough to understand that, you know, as long as you keep doing on your company, that's fine. you are still going to go to this list. so that's nice,

that's i personally, sometimes you've seen it. i mean i, i wasn't responsible planning the surgical strikes. yes, i remember. and later, you know, there was some questions raised. i still did it actually happened reddick? yeah. i'm politicians. yeah. so the position seems to be the new, the new really bad. but as i said, i just do it the, you know, really a job, a good personally. and i think that is the source of great satisfaction for you. you've spoken to you how to against politicizing military obligations, what kind of damage do thing it causes people inside they shut off with a tree, operations, the damage it sort of causes this. the other one, if i still have them, when you started sort of taking decisions based on what your thing is, but a degree correct. rather then on what should we professionally the right way to go, which is i think on this for you and it was only among the trees and which is why they keep themselves away from politics is that did good. what would appear to obtain starts out of impacting your professional approach or do we, i mean, to get

a professional opinion to the political leadership that sometimes gets him back to . and if you have any visibility, show sort of political leading and what is the role of media in integrating to the media today and particularly the, the social media. and you know, how it is, lots of misinformation this information. but again, as i said, as uh, as professionals, i'm just, i'm sure it, as, as you will do in the okay, yeah, is try and sort of a detach yourself a little bit. i'm trying to sort of see the truth. not always easy, but that's how it is like so did you do that to be a control on it and not for sure to control on it. that has to be some regulation of the social media. i mean, you just cannot let it can be on the way it is. and then time people talk about freedom of expression though there is. so i, i'm lines, i'm not saying we should apply. i'm don't know, i'm with you. i have yes, definitely. i believe that what you're saying is absolutely some, some,

some sense of regulation, telemundo regulation. and i think the social media platforms are also understanding that because their platforms are also being misused by a lot of people. me. and so i think some regulation is so nice to meet required. do you think india is still in the part of the in, on alignment? so uh, i think we have framed it differently at all. and we are saying it strategic autonomy that we will do things which i did not best national interest. and we are not going to get aligned or become allies with one part of it. and, and you'll see that because it is growing ties when the us i'm growing tired also with the restaurant because we feel that whatever actions we take, if you have to buy a new supplies from russia, putting that moved, i've seen on action in this and we will do it. so that's, that's not a pot which we have be unfolding. and really i think is, is right though some people say it's just a little sort of the one step through which to like the alignment earlier,

talk to who do you you've created for this balance on the credit has to go to the political leadership and the people that they have, and we have a very small and you know that my understanding father administer, he's being in diplomacy for all his life. and so uh that he, i typically the way he a position in the stones. and the way he's able to be able to explain it, oh, i think we have a, we have a, we have a good fight. i'm going to stay here today. we, we, we do a lot of, uh, we have a lot of budget for roger defense forces. and i need to do that. it's a required thing because we are set under advice as in people's look at you, you look at the what your challenges i use to go to the challenges. so you have pockets on, on one side, which since independence has shown affility towards india. and we fought 3 plus one for the wife's almost been with them as we have now. come, what's largest,

all the neighbors in china, which seems to indeed, or indeed, or has been sort of attempting to use military caution on an unsettled, bought up. and then you haven't done and say go to the shows your mortgage way, the northeast. and so there's a civic wymond of adequate forces to be able to deal with these challenges. and that automatically translates into a defense budget that permits feel no need to sort of have the ability of the size, but also the quick put properly. so that is capable of meeting and selling is about the subject strikes when people are saying that they actually happen on the did not happen. this is my personal care. i'll set you up. why it wasn't it sort of toner, the faces of those people who was saying it that this is so. so let me tell you, i mean the frankly, when these things started coming out, i was personally of the opinion that we had videos we had big chose which

subsequently when we leased by the government, i think after, after almost any or so we did bibles a little bit at that time was that we should put these out so that i need all the track tubs and people who are saying have the type of not only, not only from outside would even values time say, yeah, i do going forward. i mean, those now i didn't say nothing is happening at all. nobody has come off. so i, i, anyway, but you know, that was the decision that the government look at that time, not releasing though they did that later. but as i said, my personal opinion, was it going to be done? i knew in june, given the salvation was taken. yeah. so i was the, i'll be going to that. yeah, i know that i said, i want to ask you so many questions about the board. all of that. do some planning, the whole the planning for the legal side was done in my head. going to be yeah. and we were responsible for that and how much time did it take to plan it? so actually the planning started off the give us

a little believe about. yeah. so the trigger for the surgical side was the a, back on the when he got us in after the, and the bag, i'll know the guy to send the base on the 18th of september. and i think very quickly of the political leadership, military leadership, we all got together and decided that we need to respond to this. and we need to respond strongly. we can adjust for them to fight and say when say we will do anything in nato and tennessee. we go down to the previous government and none men going to. yeah. and then what happened? yeah. that we had to go across and strike incomes we children focused on that issue . so that decision that they said was operating on the operation, rented on the night of the 28th. so within 10 days we had planned, selected the people i launched them across and it wasn't a single operation. so i know that's what we would just be made. oh yeah. so if you chose one thing and nobody can actually we went across and multiple places. okay.

yeah, starting from across the movies into across catch me. so we had on the same night, we launched 5 populations and how much time did it take to complete these operations? so we went and so it was at night we started just after it became quite a more waiver you at that time i wasn't much as i was in my head for the cold water room was on the you know, yeah, it was, it was called an operations room and we were getting the, the feed from the u a b, the drawing because up in the me that for you to is coming to might have gotten view of watching. couldn't really see what people got i, what button you are watching. so we went in uh and by about 7 in the morning everybody was back. so it was, it was a night opening the bicycle. we did not name it at all. okay. see we have already gone. shes about to go to tea and the information about they should not leak out. just a handful of people in my headquarter also knew what i mean, not everybody didn't normal. and so we decided deliberately not to give with the

name of other people's side, talk your name, then the last what it is. and you were in class in the country with the parameters to do it up. and i will start blissfully in touch with the prime minister. that was then i say you need any. yeah. any of the chief allow me stuff. okay. yeah, because i was in with them for. okay, let's see for the, for why we start with the navy. and yeah, he was, he was briefing that ridiculously and lot of the rest of the countries are not really very happy about either too much, like you do your best. and some countries want us to be always submissive and not so brilliant because i think this, i'll all see, you know, here in august on i 2 countries and you'll see that um they sometimes feel that, you know, data behavior is the responsible and it could lead into a much larger sort of conflict, we know how to do with pains. we have been living with this situation since independent and side until that is

a great deal of maturity. and when we carry out the end, we have the order civilization. yeah. on a do means if you see this, so yeah, sometimes it's really, really angry with me and did the editors notes and things like that. and they all, they sort of condescendingly, yeah, they have to address that. and are you what i, what i think it, you know, uh, we have clearly stated that what we will do is in our national interest and also the country has progress. otherwise, have been looking the 5th largest economy in the was i think that is a growing stage politically, diplomatically, economically. so i don't think guy, you know those last time. then people who look down on you and to say whether this country off the button is when even so i love the beautiful as a single entity. i think those times and all your very, very gum the same thing it's i think i'm sure it's or the you peter is

that you have it and you how i mean people also automatically choose the right words it's. it's sort of impresses me and baffles me. on so there's not a single word which really will, which is a little to lose. i have to think about 1000 thing. don't. maybe i'm given my dialogue and nice guy obviously. yeah. yeah. you have to live to live that. yes, exactly. oh, i have live 545. yeah. yeah. she didn't have it. it's had a strong military bond. how important and it's relationship with by the in the rush of relationship is not neil. i think it's it has a long history behind it. there's a great deal of consistency in how russia has come to india as a to and requires. i mean, a 71 law for example. you had the kind of vehicle one that we had bought from russia, for example, the new case of marines,

that they lead us. i mean the article thing wouldn't have come from anybody else. and so there is a great deal of history behind the tie. what are the reason of this morning? me? is there any particular this? as i said, as i said, it's because you have sort of treated us with a great deal of maternity. they have looked at our national interest a number of cases where in the security council resolution the test drive, they have come to, i hope there was a true deal friendship and 1971. so in the american, uh, yeah, across carrier sale in, uh, into the, there's a way of a lot of the sort of pressure that of the us. and then we will finding the bottom of the schwab. hm. it was, it was that i sions who sort of came to headphones had uh, we are there, so don't get, don't get pressurized by, by the us. so i'm take data, so the long history of a fios dies. the fact that they have looked after our national interest,

which is why today you'll see in the i sort of refuse to outright click on them rush. actually doing that. you can watch, we have continued to pick out either due supplies and will it be the coupon from them. and what is the make in india program done for pilots ministry? let me let me put it this way. today we are the largest arms importer in the wide. mm. okay. and yeah, and the other biggest sounds important in the was the accounting for almost 10 percent of global arms and boards. and if you want to be an industrial and scientific power this and i'm willing to follow this situation obviously is not good. and so we need to develop, i don't indigenous capability. and i think the push that has been given by the government is ex, illinois. and they have said that slowly over a period of time, you suddenly get on google or defense industrial base from the ground up within

india. but the policies that they have put in place, the processes that they have within place that slowly the villain does an ice and be able to produce ad on um sending copeland i think, is an oak sending and it should have a will it happen quickly maybe not but the project and direction is optional to share. so i'm saying in the next 5 success, you will see a strong enough defense industrial base. and i think it's an excellent initiative. why the government, they are completely telemundo bush and you've said that citizens that often for water and in the national security and how to do. what do you mean by that? see i, i go to a national security strategy. and one pillar of died was predicting on people. the point i'm making is not shown. security is not clearly about it. it's important to predict about us to make sure i think those figured is good. but ultimately, as the citizens of this country and, and why i am saying of protecting them is because you have,

you shows like jobs you have, it shows like environment, time of change, how it is going to impact uh, organization is going to take place, but i'm going to move from you know, only just villages to towns. how would you provide them the set of facilities that they need this also? so i think they should follow me in and to group out of how we look at our national security, which is why i said, you know, people also must be in the hospital 5 the scores and discussions on, on national security. yeah, that's i do me, vincent, but also it is even the detritus attacks the country. right. the decreased completely and there was a into them thing. i've said, yeah, so this is the political build things do absolutely. i think you the credit is valid for the approach that they have taken against terrorism within the country. and that's why it is focused on his concern that, you know,

we need to be tough on this. and i think it's, it's working. as you said, the number of data, the setbacks within the country has reduced out of the way they were happening all over the country. not only and double encourage me. yeah. even within the on where they find that. so that has. so the pressure, i think that the government has applied politically diplomatically in international circles. and the fact that there is somebody in us to use military force against focused on, you know, of the n t take some more risk. and i think that that policy is succeeding. this is my personal personalized question. before that we finish, it's shot them and the new, the condensation has happened. june. or now this we are in that time the biopics i made a on army generals and the kind of book that you have done if you are biopic was to be made. or if you right to not do biograph here,

let me put it like that. what would you call it? the book that you write about your life if you ever taught. oh, that's the that's a difficult question. a is what, what i call a good i see a lot of the army officers, i mean done those. i think the mom was know i already have and you have a very distinguished video and um for so i have and i, i don't know. so being with on or something like that is what i would say. okay. yeah. any particular actor you have in mind to apply to the 2nd you either you either you are the best person you are meetings or when is that a viable ticket or one with them as well? so that's amazing. thank you. thank you. lift engine independent single. got thank you so much for that and thank you for watching join me next week. as we uncolored a new lead and yet another debate and let's talk about it. i'm on a phone case. goodbye the

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