the system with a slide and so i'm see what you guys get for the new e phone that so long as you guys pursue and you up with them. you as customers declassified criminal cases from the central archive of the k g b, a better rules, shut the light on the atrocity. and on so numerous questions that have remained an onset for many years. watch on oxy. during the 2nd world war, full underground power, military organizations in poland, occupied by german troops, as well as in the bordering regions of bella. rose were united into the so called home on a trip to the documents and they've got the police officer to order uh, ordered the prospect. just say it's because they use a blue screen list. and by putting the news as it gets to the ship, when they put you through this issue of shy sticker who mom, it was the main organization that the poet issue was system,

the switching against the gym and occupation and soviet rule. others to me out of me cuz i knew away 1920 the level she moistened, printing the unfair voice. still exciting is significant but it says um, anything unusual in this instance that's most of the home on a county down operations to destroy the nazis. but then switch to settling schools with soviet partisans and the civilian population that supported them. they have nearby to automate car you over to destroy your hospice and me today. well, i've been in the data for that for my goal is to be able to get product is on the new post that has the liberal in agreement or just the booklet is devali. 16. those up letting me know 40 points the means you cannot serious deal of when you have no need. so for us to skim sydney, we generally look for you simulate you choose the motion the cause i know it's pretty nice. this of, i'm interested in most of them on this like evelyn. this is cecilia. i see for the

senior snap, under the guise of evacuation about 50000 people were transported. the main purpose of this concentration camp in bella rose was too insane. prisoners was typhus and use them as a human shield against the advancing. so it'd be at on a given mind. but silicon slipped into phone. you put them in the sky when it was in love with like you can pick up to the ship that you're ship a presto, somebody, stuff. but don't want to bring your name. the i'm so sorry i missed because on your certificate seems to put your salary and that is a to see if the nazis use people is biological weapons leading them to perish without food, water, motion to the door of some water from you for a deity. so create a new lives i usually use most of the can you put the intrinsic nation we're should

have just put in each each additional restrict financing you move the cam gloucester 10 days or what else made it drastically defends from other camps of that the rice watch on tv, the mr. dmitri, and they told me that somebody with a, it's a great pleasure to sit down with you and join us here, went on to the international, the, a former president of the russian federation, the former prime minister, and the current deputy chapman of security council of russia thank you very much for joining us here on, on the international the top right in. i'm trying to get my head around what we're seeing right now in sibley see georgia forgive me for, for trying to be straight about this. if i made the ruling georgia dream party have just won the recent parliamentary elections, the routing georgia dream party,

the problem is the friendly with russia, and america is not happy about this top. tell me if i'm, if i'm getting on the right way here, washington doesn't agree with how the people have georgia voted. so now in g o, so potentially being used to funds a to trying to essentially create some chaos until they get the election. the result, they want my written mostly reading this correctly. so i don't know what was the well, in my view, what happened in georgia with these elections was quite predictable. on the one hand, the georgia dream is very popular in the country, although the opposition is also very strong. the georgia dream is almost perceived as a pro russian party. but this is not true at all. it is a thoroughly pro georgian party. in fact, when the election results came in, the prime minister explicitly said that they have no intention of restoring diplomatic relations that there is a huge problem in our relations and so on and so forth from that statement reflects their position. so the fact that they stayed in power only means that the george

and people are pragmatic. the georgia people do not want more. they do not want the events of 2008 to be repeated. and they do not want to develop normal economic relations with the russian federation. i think that's why this is not some operation by the kremlin, but the choice of the george and people that includes the i think, i think it's a very fair comment there. and so i some of the official comments online just from every day. jose and james, like you and myself, people are saying, you know what, the people to georgia. they've built it. apparently they've, i could not for the use, they wrote it, not for nato, but they voted in the software and manner that should be respected. now, some people are saying that the problem is, is a georgia, is a neighbor to russia. uncertain to western interests might want to use georgia, perhaps as another proxy to carry out further publications from day to against it's night. but let us not forget my dad and 24 to in your your thoughts how much he didn't upset. look, misput is absolutely clear that a prob, occasion like this is possible as follows from the entire course of events. i mean,

what else is there to say when the sitting president, i'll be it with very limited. powers is publicly calling the election pro russian and trying to rally people to the square to his own. my done, this is obviously a call publication aimed at sparking to cool. so anything could happen there. but on the other hand, rushes george's neighbor and i'll say it out right. all in off, if we are a friendly neighbor to georgia are trade turnovers growing significantly in recent years. tourism is increasing and we have normal economic ties despite everything that happened back in 20 o 8. so this situation would of course have a serious impact on the interest of georgia in the georgia people. not to mention that attempts to drag georgia into a confrontation on the side of the west against ukraine's could and very badly. there's a reason that various names and comparisons had been spreading around georgia on one side. you have a peaceful, georgia, and on the other, a belligerent ukraine. and i think this perspective holds people back. but it's

also very likely that will be seen clashes skirmishes and attempts to pull off some kind of my done, especially with western emissaries coming in. i don't know, maybe new and won't show up, but someone else could. it's quite possible you there a fee is about history repeating itself, and they were always concerns about external actors carrying out certain agendas. perhaps. my dad, the 2014 the us method to spending over $5000000000.00 to offset democrats. good elected president, victor younger coleridge. i mean, you remember the might on midwife victoria newland john mccain. they were out on the might on square. they were handing out freedom. cookies, i don't even know what a freedom cookie is, mr. madrid, but they were handing these things out. there are concerns about a my down 2 point oh, occurring in tbilisi, but as far as do you think it's on the white plains. when i go to lecture the new lease, it was the 1st of all, let's not forget that to police see already had the so called rose revolution,

which brought that madman. mchale sac, i should be lead to power. let me tell you a story. i was the head of the presidential administration at the time and went on to visit the united states back then. that kind of thing was still conceivable. anyway, at one point, my counterpart condo is the rice and i went to the oval office. actually, it wasn't quite like that george w bush came in to see us. we had a brief chat about the russian american relations. it must have been around 20 o 4, maybe late, 20 o 3 or early 20 o 4. the conversation was friendly, everything was fine, we understood each other well. then out of nowhere, mister bush suddenly says to me, listen, but you know, myisha soft. gosh, really is a good guy. we weren't even discussing george at all. i was surprised and said, well, i don't know, we'll see. and as we say, george w bush, practically jinxed. myisha success really turned out to be a very difficult character. bringing countless troubles, not only to georgia,

but oddly enough, even to ukraine. and to this day, he's still scheming, even from his current location, trying to pull people onto the streets. so georgia knows what arose revolution is. georgia understands what my done was like, what it meant for ukraine, and how it all ended. that's why georgia has become a much more pragmatic country, and we're glad to see it. well, as you, as you say, it was submitted if you, you a president at the time with 2008. when, when this cries what's happening. but between, between georgia and up causes of a set you up the western press, the political establishment, they all call that a russian invasion. how would you call it? and then it's getting there some information. well, no, of course not. there wasn't any invasion in terms of current international law and are you in charter there was an exercise of the right to self defense under article 51 of the un charter mama. here's what happened to the, to break away republics were in constant tension with the regime in tbilisi,

which at some point came to be led by success, really being a overconfident person and someone with certain mental issues. he decided at some point to restore territorial integrity condo. liza rice came to visit him. he probably had some consultations with us intelligent services and decided it was time to act. we understood this could happen with the but the way he did it. and especially during the olympics, that was quite a surprise that we had to act. but when i got the information from the defense minister, i said double check this after while he called again and said they were indeed trying to attack and had to even struck our peacekeepers. i had to give orders to launch a missile counter strike against georgian forces. all this happened within just a few hours. after that they come down a bit, but not completely shells this led to the 5 day war. as a result, georgia completely lost any relationship with self assess here and i've has yet, that was the price of stock. i should be leased gamble,

actually assessments. they will always differ. the western world saw it as an invasion, but i can tell you frankly when i spoke with foreign leaders, europeans and even americans, which happened quite often at that time. they would whisper to me, look, we get it, he's crazy. he's unstable. he shouldn't have done this, but sorry, we can't see this publicly, even though the tag lavine commission report. i acknowledge georgia's attack themselves, etc, and the killing of their own civilians. this document didn't get much publicity, but it exists and anyone interested can read it. it's an official document, so the truth always finds its way out. so amazing how, how the western narrative likes to mold all the stories to its own benefit. and only years later can we really get the truth out, you know, so, so grateful that you spend some time with us to sit down and talk about this. we talk about these events back in 2008, and you have see, we are now almost in 2025, georgia. the us is threatening georgia the full much. so if you had country with

severe consequences, if it doesn't basically over toe and this past contends election, then the us state department spokesman matthew, man, i say whatever you want about him, but he's basically threatened georgia to submit to the us. oh, face consequences, quote, a quote you on here, mr. bill, it says george, up must return to it to euro atlantic pos not. i mean, it seems to me that the people of georgia have said no to nato and the you. oh, mr. mit vivian. if i'm like confused and dropped off some, it goes up measuring the thing is, i believe, attitudes towards the e. u and new to have changed in georgia, nato was a military block. the was quite far away, not to mention the united states, but russia is right next door. we're historical neighbors. we share the same faith and histories. we've helped georgians many times throughout our shared pass. yes, there was this incident, but the responsibility lies specifically with president soft. gosh, really no one else. and by the way,

recently the george and leadership has essentially acknowledged that it's time to reassess those events and recognize the role played by foreign influence. so i don't know, maybe some people in georgia want to be in the you, that's fine, somewhat natal membership, which was offered back in 20 o 8. but as they look around and observe what's happening in ukraine, a significant portion of people understand the real price of such membership. because rushes position a new natal members appearing nearest borders as well known. if western countries, especially the united states, had enough flexibility and wisdom to make a security agreement with russia, there would have been no special military operations. but they're in the habit of bullying everyone into submission. they operate on a principle of american exceptionalism and the pregnancy of us interest. so this is a big mistake. you know what? i'll say this. it will be there and doing some day. me, it was it, was it the,

the legendary a diplomat of henry kissinger who said, years ago, said being an enemy of america or is dangerous, but being a friend can be faithful and you go to watch out, you know who your outside support and say, you know who all your friends and just ironically, matthew made of the us state department of this. the last thing i'll say about this guy, what he, he was saying, we've seen votes the irregularities into police. see we want it all to be investigated. what, well, how about investigating the 2020 votes the irregularities in the united states? so it may be georgia should send some inspectors to go and inspect america's 2020 election. if we're talking about irregularity, say it's always this case of double standards. i think perhaps any comments on that mission to give them the official community or here's my take on what henry kissinger said. she was a wise man, in that sense, a very significant figures. and he certainly served his country in the united states. but he was also a worthy opponent and a capable negotiator in all sorts of formats. he said some things that were

absolutely right, like the ones you mentioned. however, shortly before he passed at a very advanced stage, he admitted sort of, regrettably that now the u. s. has no choice but to accept the ukraine into nato. and i think that's where he got it wrong. that outcome isn't set in stone because when you're choosing between vague promises and the possibility of starting world war 3, the choice is pretty clear. as for what's going on during elections, there are always complaints from the losing side. different exit polls always show different results. we're all aware of this. the numbers exit polls show are typically influenced by woodside or political force they represent. they may not differ drastically, but there's usually a small percentage difference that can be decisive now about what actually happened in georgia. i'm kind of in my view, it's truly outragious who's take the president, for instance. instead of saying, i'm unhappy with the results, i feel they may not fully reflect the will of our people. so let's address these

claims in court. this could have been the stance of a true state's person. but what did she do? she said, let's take to the streets. let's go to the my dun and demand the removal of the pro russian government in my view, just by doing that, she committed the state crime for which she should be removed from office, arrested and put on trial. why? because she went against the constitutional foundations of her own country. i get the impression that in her mind, she's already somewhere off in france, and george is a close chapter for her. maybe not even a bit exciting anymore. but that in itself is telling just feel the difference between what's being said in georgia now and what was said in the us during the last contest between barton and trump. it's interesting, the typical reaction we get from our professional populace and sudden western countries when they like to talk about in other countries. elections and they were, they're always saying don't meddle, don't interfere, but we know that they do the most meddling and the most interfering, basically bohannon compared to any country. i think i saw a number recently united states in the past

a few years has meddled in roughly 70 elections at some unbelievable number. but that is what we're seeing. forrest johnson, the former british prime minister, he's commented on police c. good all bars, johnson. he says the election has been stolen by proof in this puppet government in each scene of this is coming from bars. why cool boris? the butcher johnson, you remember? clearly he discussed with the ukraine rush at the store, kentucky. that man has a lot of blood on his hands, and of course, during color of it, he was having these late night parties on downing street. what do you think of boris johnson's political analysis of what's happening in georgia ways? johnson? let's shift forest. johnson is definitely an intriguing character. i describe him as a dangerous, eccentric, and we just looked at him and you'll learn a lot about who he is, what he poses a real danger slice conceal because he acts against the interest of peace in europe . he pushes his anti russian and also anti ukrainian agenda. at one point when he

had influence over the ukrainian leadership, they could have engaged in peace talks and even reached agreements on the principles of conflict resolution. it's no secret that it was him who told them no, don't do that, will support you. everything will be fine. you need to show determination. and then she was out of the picture would. so every time he makes comments, now, all i can muster is a bitter smile. this is a man who has already painted his legacy in this conflict, and his views on the elections in georgia are just as clear. he doesn't support the current political force there. so he resorts to terms like stolen election and so forth. instead of acknowledging that these election results reflect the will of a significant portion, if not the majority of the georgian population, that's it. we, once again, i want to stress that we don't see the georgia authorities or their party as close allies. they have entirely different views. they don't even want to restore diplomatic relations with us. if they decide to in the future,

we can do it then. but it's still possible to cooperate without formal diplomatic ties. as for johnson's role is clearly destructive, she seems to want more depths, and it's just the 50. i just wanted to ask you a couple more questions about what we're seeing it to police of georgia today. just a couple of things here. we know that the georgia, georgia parliament passed as low a banning l g b t q, and transgender propaganda from being forced on children. the government basically did this to protect children. washington is not happy about it for whatever reason . they, they think this is a, this is some sort of anti human rights agenda. but then again, the children problem and also cost as low dining for an ages were n g o is a new me both notice very well, n g o is a use to for events on the rest in various countries worldwide like us a democracy house. so you know, all these really cheesy courtney names, but um these n g o is now in georgia. they have to show who's paying them. if it's more than 20

percent, i'm brussels and washington said this is a violation of democracy. how did you do this? your comments on that because it seems to me the georgian parliament and the forage as low is a good thing to actually put in the works. well, this is a clear example of what everyone calls double standards. the united states has a for an agents law that's considered a good rush. it has one that's considered bad. europe is planning to adopt specialized rules for, for an agency that's good in georgia, adopted forward agents law. that's bad because they supposedly copied it from the russians. meanwhile, if anyone's interested are russian for an agents law is actually much more liberal than the american law from 1937 or $38.00. i don't remember the exact year in the us. they immediately throw any for an asian in jail. so these are just double standards as for other freedoms that are supposedly being suppressed in georgia. you know, that's the country's own choice. it's the choice that they're parliamentarians, if they consider certain values being pushed on them as alien to the george and

people, or orthodox christians, then they have the right to act accordingly. they're not obliged to follow any model being imposed on them from anywhere else. you know, this reminds me of the debate about which democracy is more perfect. let me tell you the story. it's somewhat related to current events. when i was visiting the americans when we were having dinner with that same ms. rice at the watergate hotel, which is quite an interesting place in itself. she started saying, look, your media isn't completely free. there state influence. and started telling me this whole story. i said listen, your presidents get elected with a majority of votes and you have disappeared. voting system that was invented back when people were still riding horses. her response was, well, yeah, but that was a long time ago and it works for us. that's it. everything they have works for them . but everything we have should work the way that suits them should suit the united states. in other words, they have the right to do everything. well,

we should do things exactly as they suggest. by the way, this model was offered to us to like, if you weren't good relations with us, do is we tell you, when we decided that enough was enough that this wasn't in russia's interest. we started having conflicts with the americans. and by the way, one of these 1st really tense periods was in 20 o 8. with the choice one of the the, we are all changed our t formerly known as russia today, trying to influence the presidential election in november. the extraordinary new efforts to once again infiltrate our election can undermine democracy. 2, will 5 proceeds to direct us information in propaganda here to sort of divide

america r t as move beyond functioning fact or. okay, then do you want to know who i pick was this time and make sure you turn in for all the special coverage of the us presidents when that of the, the 1st 3rd of the 19th century was marked by the aggressive expansion of the united states. the american sought to seize as much territory for settlement as possible. ignoring the sovereignty of the neighboring states and the interests of the indigenous peoples. in 1845, washington announced the annexation of mexican texas. and in march, 1846. american troops invaded mexico. however,

mexico itself did not have enough means to effectively confront the enemy. besides, it was being torn apart by internal conflicts. the americans manage to turn the tide of the war in their favor. in september 18, 47, the u. s. army captured mexico city. mexico was forced to assign a humiliating peace treaty according to wait to get lost 55 percent of its territory. vieques agent of the lands to the united states led to terrible consequences, bloodshed, genocide was committed against the indians in california. during the 1st half century of the american ruled, the number of the indigenous people in the region decrease from 150216000 people. slavery, which had been abolished in mexico long before the united states attacked was restored on the occupied territory. this will later become one of the reasons for the civil war in the united states themselves. nations like individuals are

punished for their transgressions. we got our punishment. american president ulysses grant rode about the consequences of aggression against mexico several decades later. the or once again, the democrats are turning to the black community, begging cajoling. we need you, we need you. we the, we have to to feed donald trump, but they're not offering any substantive policy to encourage us to support them. it's a matter of the vice president went to a historically black college. she is the and, and member of the alpha kappa alpha us are already incorporated into dances pretty well. the

in the late 18 ninety's french soldiers led by general paul who like arrived in asia with the goal of expanding french control in west africa to the territory of more than shot. the most funny, i mean, he stuck up system issues around the cars and digs shown the list to the tent, the food i on the east, one of the most terrific campaigns of a trustees to have ever taken place in the history of the continent. liability getting hold of somebody. i know the question that you download the glassy part of the diesel april. the actual, most likely multiple villages would devastated a numerous members of resistance groups with the headed apartments for us to get the the young investigator in search of his own identity

and box on that you need to africa. the traces general good eyes, flood drenched roots in an effort to establish how your legacy still echoes throughout the consummate. so my name is ben and i come from england and i've come ready to find out more about the emissions of lake and the history of colonialism and in the region, the if you think about russia, what does your mind to pick to the landscapes open up before your eyes, the what one does, you imagine the,

the veto, scott starts the journey, the, the you ready to come along the let us go to the student's supposed to be in the middle of business to their thoughts and they call the fireside because of the bridge and we do actions listing for people and i predicted this to be used against their

children. correct. and this needs to be said that you knew to jump on line that the gladly was it was the door yours. medically viewed, always the key on the is by, it's the find instead of a, which is not the bill and there's the can work through the system. you're in the multiple players like playing over at the site recently the yes or was to inform us any funny. i noticed one of the one the the person inquiring about the

goal is to the time action. redundancy and welcome back to going underground broadcasting around the world from the u. a. e. there is no such thing as a democracy without a free press. and as we have exposed time and time again, i'm going underground. there is no free press in nato countries despite volumes attempts by courageous john list to expose foreign interference across the vessel states of us and by foreign interference is not coming from official enemies like china and russia. though on monday we will expose the genocidal is really government's attempts to get that chosen candidate elected next tuesday. today we covered the role of britain supply.