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supplier of weapons for the holocaust in gaza. does a but us democracy and deluxe kamala harris. despite some polls indicating the trump may have already won the us election by land slide, joining me now from a dread is british journalism award winning pulls back a founder of this information, chronicle with friend of the show met. diabetes exposed leak documents, showing british advisors to come on the harris, not only interfering with us elections, but the campaigns is above the us constitution and destroyed the 1st amendment. and the quote to mux twitter pro censorship strategy is linked directly to the chief of stuff to julia and assigned to prosecute at u. k. prime minister. secure still by himself. the poles. thanks so much for coming on. we've covered on going underground. now the u. k. 5 minutes to get summer's an intel asset to run the u. k . agency which tried to persecute julian, his sons, of course, wanted for his estimation by the c i a under might compare your revelations with friend of the show tight. you'd be my tell you, we show a 2 way street,

at least britain of some power. how has tom is the u. k. labor policy being involved to trying to corrupt the elections next tuesday in the united states? well, so there, there, there's a group that was started in 2017 by a guy named worrying mix we, he's a sort of the brain child behind a group called labor together, which is the conservative wing of labor. and this, this group is called the center for county digital hate. and what they were used 1st for was the kill to sort of go after anyone who was allied with jeremy corbett . jeremy corbin is a left this part of the left part of labor party is no by the way. i've disabled. i'm sorry, it's hard to the left, but the nice is nothing right. don't mean anything these days you really anymore. but anyway, i will also true. so, um, what, what ccbh did was, when did they, they just went after anyone who basically was considered, you know,

against the sort of conservative wing of labor, you know, which is this group called labor together. and one of their main targets was a new side called the canary, which is a lot this new site that was pretty much ally with jeremy corbin. and the way the attack them was by lobbying constant claims of anti semitism against the canary. in many ways were found like none of them were found to be true later when they were looked at. but what this did is a scared away advertising. it especially tank the website. so they had to lay off the bath majority of their staff. it shut them up and you know, and then we know what have, i should say we've, we've had the editor in founder the can area on and in, i know a day all the video is deleted by google's huge you. but yeah, we covered the, the ocean of the kid area and it's time and of course it was, it was really amazing when i, when i interviewed her, she was so. busy but at one point time, she almost started crying because she was, you know, telling me like how terrible it was be, you know, considered

a nice thing being costs like use of being an asi, but it was a successful campaign. and so in around 2021 suddenly see um set up a counter digital hate they pop in the united states. now i'm a creature of washington. i used to work in the senate. i ran investigations. i lived there for 10 years. and so the 1st thing that struck me i was like, who is this group the center for counting digital 8 and who is behind them? this guy came out awesome. and he is british like what, how is he like getting the year of the president? united states was so weird. and so i wrote an investigation for them well for last year about for the tablet, which is a, a conservative to your site. it was very interested in all these issues about shutting down and sensor and people. and what we found is that the setup, the setup kind of digital hate as well in mind. ok, man, in their 1st year in united states, they raised almost $1500000.00 out of the blue. we don't know where that money came

from, but we do know that $1100000.00 of it came in in one big bowlers. from out what's called a donor assistance fund, which allows you to donate money to i think it's called the charles schwab. and then when it comes from the charles schwab bind to another organization. you can't tell who the original donor is. so it said a very purposely to hide through the actual donors are. so that was the vast majority, their money, but we also know is from, you know, a person i interviewed is that, you know, the operator has admitted that he applied to either and the person didn't know was it m i 5 or my 6. we don't know if you got it or not. we certainly know the apply. he certainly seems like an asset for british intelligence, the board, the chair of the board of a stand every county digital, a guy named simon clark, is the democratic party, political operatives. he's now on the atlantic council. he was the center for american prod which, which is a democratic party think tank which helped to ride he always buttons campaign. now, in the,

in the present about the last i would say 6 weeks or so. there's been several reports in a post washington post and the political that labor together was directly advising via the hillary clinton campaign. at that point i realized, oh, now i get what's going on? like they 1st brought this labor together vehicle called this jennifer kenner, digital hate brought it to the united states to attack all the enemies of the democratic party. now in america, we don't really have a left, so there was no one to go after there. but the people they went to after were r f k junior. and eli must the 2 major threats of the democratic party. right? yeah. and so even campaign for kamala harris. no, i'm sorry it's, it's easy to give these instead of hillary clinton, kamala harrison. oh yeah, i'm sorry, i'm sorry. yeah. cop copper probably. right. yes. and so in and out of the blue, i began getting concepts from people inside ccbh telling me what was going on internally leaking documents and that was their latest piece. and you know,

i just had a bunch of documents that i was being given and i went through the monthly plan or for the center for kind of digital hate you. i must suit them because he alleged that they were basically attacking him to try to shut down his advertisers, which is exactly what they had done the canary. it's their, their whole topic is throwing happy's issue that you yearning on semis you're a racist. you're in to you whatever, and then they go to advertises and say, aha, hoping you have advertising this guy. this the game plan, they were running against twitter, try to shut them down. basically like crush them by not having any advertisers. and what we found is, and their monthly plan or their annual priority was she almost twitter the 2nd item on your genuine advertising focus. so we see internally that, i mean, i do want to get into the trump blow a suit that's valid much, but i that right to quotes that you in that day we put into your articles a, showing that a base kamala harris follicle as ours gets elected definitely,

it's not good news for anyone using ex anytime soon. i mean they want to destroy. i mean if already they have agencies that have that on their monthly plan, are they going to be part of oh yeah, hours administration. oh, without a doubt, eli mosque has already said, i mean you're on boss. could you go back when he 1st bought twitter? he was not really allied with either political party. what's happened is the media kind of pushed him in that direction in the direction of the republican party by constantly harping on him, constantly attacking him. and so now he's like, he is a direct supporter of. uh, you know, of, uh, you know, try to win the presidency. so of course he's a target. um, yeah. and you know, so we can see like, you know, what they're doing is, this is just the interesting thing about it is there's nothing wrong with a political campaign like this, right? i'm just politics. i'm sorry. like, put on your big board shorts. so let's, let's, let's go to battle, but this is current is the media interview, right? but this is far in interference. right?

so i can tell you right now i've just gone through their tax records. about one 5th of their money. they got last year came from britain to to board members are actually pretty citizens. one is actually just elected as an m p. christy mcneil is a brand new n p she was on the board. so this is just, this is a labor party vehicle which they use to, you know, put care star manpower based on how this is affected. but let's bring over the states. let's see how it works over there. and what makes it so interesting is no. normally, if you understand politics, our politicos do like the project out. right. so american politicos and variety of reasons i've heard is because we have the best political operatives like in the world because we have, we have um, campaigns happening everywhere. there's ton of money. there's tons of money in american politics, so you can try out new strategies. so when you're in american,

political operative, you get like there's causally a campaign you can work on. there's cost money, get you out. do i figure out how do your polls effectively had a new strategies? are political operatives like once a campaign is once they go work in england, they go, oregon is real argentina, the middle east, eastern europe, whatever. it's very common. and actually in my lifetime, i'm not aware of a single incident in which a brick came over and became an operative. you know, behind the scenes in america, in my mind it's, it's a, it's a very singular actually makes me proud to be british chapel co. uh, here's the letter from the trump campaign. the, uh, the hillen law group incorporated. i don't know, but it, because of your article, a complaint against the labor party, the united kingdom in names that he has done with the british prime minister in intelligence as a complaint to an hours for the present, for making and accepting illegal for national contributions. so, um, what i mean,

what do you, luckily happens, business version of your constitution? and if it was another country doing this and not the nato vassal state, perhaps it'd be more i outcry. what does this mean for style him or for instance? and how does a legal process work? can they expedites against alma, perhaps off to the office? i don't think that's going to happen, but i can tell you right now uh, you know, we had in our follow up story that the trump, people are furious about this. yeah. and if trump was the presidency, you know, there's multiple ways that, you know, investigations can happen to set up a kind of digital 8. i know right now the guy running around opted, you know, who worked and he was a, you know, a political worked for several members of, of the british parliament. he's terrified he's terrified to transfer you to when he sees himself as someone who is very much allied with the democratic party and just

give you a sense of that. you know, they held a private meeting this last summer and they had something like a 100 attendees, separate gutter, digital a, a meeting in washington. there wasn't a single person, right? i'll be like, 100 different people who attended missouri public. it was all democratic operatives, you know, either members from the hill non profits allied with the democratic party, the state department, people like working for the, you know, for the, by the administration. they are a nothing more than a democratic party vehicle now. and so that's why, of course he's got to be worried because, you know what, if truck comes in office and then once the selections over committees are going to be sending out subpoenas, that's gonna happen. and we're gonna see all these internal emails. how many days the price that seems a bit long, you believe i as a british? yeah, i'm a british subject. if i was working for the british government on the payroll of the british government and was living in washington dc, trying to manipulate the us elections in favor of um,

of kamala harris. i mean, i think at the very least my visa would be revoked to be thrown out of the united states. if i'm working for a foreign government drive to manipulate your elections when well, it's very difficult understand. like when i 1st wrote my 1st piece, i didn't understand why he was not registered as a warrant agents. my understanding and i've got to be careful because we got more dr. for the coming out with. i think he's actually become a, he's marriage in american out in mount hockman as um and so i think he actually has american citizenship now. um uh it, but it's very weird organization. we have some people in, in, in washington working there have people in london that are flying back and forth all the time. it's very hard to tell what's happening. i know that last year, like i said, 20 percent of their money came out of england. and i think that a lot of their money is actually now coming out of hollywood on m rod is a, is a very, very smart guy. um, you know, in the 1st piece that i wrote, you know,

he's not, he's not from a wealthy background, but he will get back to me. i will get back to him. if i had to pull a, i'll stop you that more from the founder that this information going to go after this break the the

welcome back to going under granite. i'm still here with the founder this information clinical bull faca to pull in part one. you were talking about what might happen, i should just say you are and i'm and presumably denies all of this, the labor party a did nothing wrong. everything the saying you and matt, tell you these article involving a british u. k. government to corruption and conspiracy to overturn the election over throw the election over throw democracy the united states isn't true. and i should also say actually the charles schwab, the escrow account, which was used according to your articles as a sort of slush fund. perhaps for this kind of operation is just an escrow account . it wasn't, it's not set up that type of account to necessarily disguise in my 5 and in my 6 money. oh no, i'm so what we know now is that that big boss of money came out of hollywood from

an agent. i want my name a leon kushtikian. she's an agent of holly agent hollywood. her class include mark russell. oh, you'll see on twitter is promoting on iran. ok mid and the center for kind of digital 8. i also found out that they got a big, a big bunch of money from specing or savannah gomez also donated money. her agent is also on the board. i didn't know his name exactly. i figured out where he was. and then i just heard recently that saucer appeared. cohen also gave him some money in his 1st year, and he brags in the office about having dinner with the comedian any schumer. so there's a lot of money coming out of hollywood so that you just say the bug around flow is that pro palestine activists as well. whereas sasha barren cohen is designed as the agent. so it's interesting uh how these are the bed fellows. all right, so you don't think it makes no sense. but also mark russell was a big promoter of jeremy corbin. he's now working directly with him on

a med who helped to push jeremy corbin at office. so i mean, you got to understand that like these what, how much is it you can always you can always come on this you, i think he follows our twitter account. so, you know, i'll come on board. i'm. yeah, so, so obviously these funds are being used to manipulate the electron, but it's fine in the united states if you're an american vote or american citizen is a good thing to be involved in the electoral process. trying to influence things as part of democracy. if i were to box it, it's a different thing if the key has stomach and the british government is somehow connected to manipulating democracy in the usa. right, exactly, and the other main problem i, i see is, is that the media does not explain to you when they quote them when they put him on argument on, you know, cnn on cbs news. they describe them as the sort of disinterested guy who's going after a is going after any segments as much going after as well. if that would be

a, he's not, he's a political operative. his job is to support the democratic party, which, you know, the, you know, the cure stormers in sees as something that they want to have and work with in the future. yeah, i mean, as part of the nature, i'll give you the all the american system. i mean people worried about drums, money coming from miriam adelson, obviously. and that influencing the, the policy if a continuation of the holocaust hours of genocide policy. and does that mean you're an expert on medical needs information, given the possibility being flagged up by um, candidate trump, of finally over throwing the power a big pharmaceutical companies. what could similar types of groups and similar kinds of actions and hidden hands be used to be re, lenny trump presidency, the tried to attack these powerful pharmaceutical interests, the domain a not just your television advertising, but obviously dominate the well to

a certain extent when it comes to the drugs, we swallow. i mean the, the pharmaceutical industry, you know, when i was in the senate, my investigations were end of the pharmaceutical industry. one of the things that i had passed was a law that now requires these companies. they have to report when they send money to doctors. so you can look up doctors now and see who's paying them. but i'll give you a sense of what, how this, this information machinery operates. i run an investigation for the british medical journal about problems advisors, clinical trial for the code vaccine. it was based upon internal documents that received from a whistle blower secret recordings, internal documents that showed that clinical trial was kind of a mess. um, story comes out within about a week and a half. there is fact you are lacking contacts from one of the lead stories, one of the fat checkers out there. they couldn't find anything wrong with it. you know, when, when, when they were my other m j call me, she says, we have this back check or say x, y, and z. i told her, i said, i ran investigation. so united states senate,

i've sat across the table from all the smartest lawyers working for g s k bytes are all the big companies. there's nothing wrong in that story because if there was, you'd have already got a letter from the ceo or general counsel of buys or demanding corrections. you didn't get that letter cuz there's nothing wrong with it. these fact checkers don't check backs. you have a sorry to interrupt you the apple, but um, i mean, we're on rumble this show we'd be banned and then sometimes we're allowed. but as you know perfectly well, and what's relevant is what you just said that you've sent you brian in the senate, and this show goes out intermittently on youtube. and right, so in a sense, the power is bigger than your congress. you being in the senate. but yet google under a surrender up to try and i sort of see a cut to cut out because google um, is this a contract to? they can be they, they can be weaponized, whoever wins the election next tuesday. it doesn't matter. zach

a bug presumably or what cause be incense it on the methods facebook as well as on google searches and youtube videos and people asking you questions like this? oh i, i'll just give you an example of how this censorship works. about a month ago, there was a video circulated with tamala hair as saying something about how we're going to take something down. whatever and irritated me, was like a 32nd video sweeping around. i'd still get a good up on facebook. and i said, you know, the person who wants to be the president, democrat, the democratic nominee for president is in favor of censorship. right? i've got a fat check out of italy in a tally in that march. but i had written on facebook because other people had shared at the same video and it shared inappropriately. not what i had said, but they had said other things about the same video, that idea, right. and it was there natalia, and i'm just like, why are italians getting involved?

and what an american say about the american election. this entire thought check industry is out of control. it needs to be shut down the name or not, but it's like iraq with a set of challenges will hate their writing the center of it. they actually to put in their tax forms and they, they lead a coalition of $7070.00 different non profits to deal with it called moderation. moderation is their code word for censorship. you can see the desperation because that all these different strategies of being the have have seemed to be failing according to swing state polling, obviously too early to tell. but the fact that um, the harris team of high the important lawyers associated with the legal election law fair in the military, industrial complex refuses to accept a trump victory on tuesday. how will its control of a media like social media like facebook, legacy media? i know jeff bezos from amazon has said he's washington post won't to go harris or

trump of this time, and they'll be able to run legal cases and they'll be able to propagandized with all their facebook mets. i was the other one, the game youtube, google, google searches, right. so between november and january non stop misinformation. and the fact check is line up. you know, i don't really know what the strategy is, but some of these groups are why they do it. they do, i went to twitter and um, i came out of there and it, to me, it was very obvious, but twitter was very much allied with the democratic party. it's why the and really began attacking, you know, you log boss. i think a lot of these other companies are also, you know, me before you, me upgrade, you know that before we bought to his right before he bought teresa? correct. yeah. right, exactly. i mean, but i mean, the reason why you lot, mazda is so despises great. he took away the democratic parties, censorship choice. you know, you can see it internally. i mean,

as soon as he started, even pretend he was going to buy it all the story. this is a guy who was man of the year on the front page of time. and then from there, once he started talking about buying twitter, all these story started floating up about how he was, you know, allied against transgender, white nationalism, anti semitism, you name it like the story that is coming left to right. here's one of the craziest media one eighty's i think i've ever seen the light. and that read did kind of told me what was going on is you know, this is something that's happening behind the scenes. we don't truly know the all of it, but we definitely know that the other, the military is involved intelligence agencies are involved and the democratic parties involved. and, you know, as far as i'm concerned, the whole things and then i don't need a batch or i'm a grown up. i don't even somebody what the think. well, the kill must strategy. always be still going on with the foreign interference from britain. but you know, we've had no, i'm john ski on this ro, we've had jump the late jump hill john. this joe julian and sons. i run the play

all the strategies, even the ones outlined in your latest work don't seem to be quite working. i'm off of a democrats 90 percent of g o b. they don't trust media and that personally includes all this type. oh yeah. does that mean that the they've actually lost it with the american people. the american people are showing themselves that they can withstand a dollar, terry, and attend by the dnc. there's a gallup photo. i mean, the latest thing that happened was, you know, the washington post refused to come out and endorse either candidate and 250000 people. cut off their subscriptions, the washington post. because what is going on is a lot of a lot of the, you know, the big media outlets. and like matt and i have talked about this, there was a huge shift over to the left. where a lot of these media outlets just became out pieces for the democratic party. and

people saw, you know, people, my trust in the media is gone. you know, i mean, i know reporters that like different, you know, the big outlets. new york times, washington post. they tell me like, it's so crazy that you know, they don't know that really know what's going on anymore. so the trust is loss of media, but it's for good cause because they destroyed themselves based off becoming reporters . they started to come out pieces for the democratic party. people see it, they're not stupid. i think, you know, i was talking to my sister about this i think is like the kind of a good person to talk to kind of average american, you know, lives in the suburbs of atlanta, you know, works for a financial group during backend stuff on them. and i asked her what she thought about what was going on with the media in america. and she said, the problem is, trump lies all the time. but even when he doesn't lie, the media says he lives so you don't know what to believe in mind that that's the problem is the media is not trusted anymore because they make up stuff about tom. and then just finally on the articles from this week, you expect any action under trump administration fiercer action against the british

government. talking to, to the british ambassador perhaps. and i certainly know visas for any use labor and peace coming to interfere with your elections. i don't expect that, but i do expect subpoena as to, you know, land in iraq meds, you know inbox i expect. i hope that like we're going to see all the emails of everything that was being done. you know, after our story came out, he planted a story in the guardian and a story in the washington post to try to beat back our reporting. i knew it was going to do it because i never, yes, he's been planting stories in the british media forever. he's now doing it america . it's going to come to an end because people now know who he is. he actually had to turn off the replies on his account because he's always reading anything. there'd be like a 100 replies. if you'll tell him to get out of it, get out of the america, go back to england and stop interfering in our elections. well, he says he's just countering digital hate, full factor. thank you. or thanks for having me asked ashten. that's it for the

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