answered the question, yes. one of them was a palestinian who actually wasn't attending the conference. she was attending another conference happening next door. several said no straight up and the rest refused to answer my question even though they knew they were being filled. partly it is the racism, partly it is a fact that the defense so called defense policy of western government isn't about the security piece, democracy international law or any of that nonsense. it's about the so called rules based international border, which basically means that the united states makes the rules to the benefit of the us or lead. so there's a point weapons to ukraine because they want to do harm to russia. and it was always for see a vote. and now we're seeing the horrifying inevitability of this, that ukraine's military would be destroyed. the west had every reason to believe that what happened, but they armed it, none the less because their vote wasn't to save your opinions. but to her russians, and secondly, there is the military industrial complex, which profits enormously from these wars. and that's all for me now. keep watching

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coming from official enemies like china and russia. though, on monday we will expose the genocidal is really government's attempts to get that chosen candidates elected next tuesday. today we covered the role of britain supplier of weapons for the holocaust in gaza. does a but us democracy and deluxe kamala harris. despite some polls indicating the trump may have already won the us election by land slide, joining me now from a joy it is british journalism award winner pulled back a founder of this information chronicle with friend of the show met diabetes, exposed leak documents, showing british advisors to come on, the harris, not only interfering with us elections, but the campaigns is above the us constitution and destroyed the 1st amendment. and the quote to mux twitter pro censorship strategy is linked directly to the chief of stuff to julia and assigned to prosecute at u. k. prime minister. secure style. i'm a himself a pull. thanks so much for coming on. we've covered one going on the ground out of the u. k. 5 minutes to get somewhere as an intel asset, to run the u. k. agency,

which tried to persecute julian, his sons, of course wanted for assassination by the c. i a under mike pompei o your revelations with friend of the show to it'd be monday. we show a 2 way street that these britain have some power. how has tom is the u. k. labor policy being involved to, to trying to corrupt the elections next tuesday? in the united states. well, so there, there, there's a group that was started in 2017 by a guy named worrying mix we, he's a sort of the brain child behind a group called labor together, which is the conservative wing of labor. and this, this group is called the center for county digital hate. and what they were used 1st for was the kill to sort of go after anyone, who was ally with jeremy corbett. jeremy corbin is a left is part of the left part of labor party. it's not in on by the way, i'd say, but i'm sorry, it's hard left, but they're nice. there's nothing right. go mean anything these days are you really

anymore? but anyway, i will also through so what, what ccbh did was when it, they, they just went after anyone who basically was considered, you know, against the sort of conservative wing of labor, you know, which is this group called labor together. and one of their main targets was a new side called the canary, which is a lot this new site that was pretty much ally with jeremy corbin. and the way the attack them was by lobbying constant claims of anti semitism against the canary. but anyways, were found like none of them were found to be true later when they were looked at. but what this did is a scared away advertising. it especially tank the website. so they had to lay off the bath majority of their staff. it shut them up and you know, and then we know what have, i should say we've, we've had the editor in founder that can area on, and then i know a day all the video is deleted by google's huge you. but uh yeah, we cover the, the ocean of the can area and its time. and of course it was, it was really amazing when i, when i interviewed her, um she was so um,

but at one point time she almost started crying because she was, you know, telling me like how terrible it was be now considered and not seeing being costs like used to being an asi, but it was a successful campaign. and so in around 2021 suddenly c separate counter digital hate. they pop in the united states. now, i'm a creature of washington. i used to work in the senate around investigations. i lived there for 10 years, and so the 1st thing that struck me i was like, who is this group the center for counting digital 8 and who is behind them? this guy, him right opposite he is british like what, how is the like getting the year of the president of the united states was so weird . so i wrote an investigation for them well for last year about for the tablet, which is a, a conservative to your site. it was very interested in all these issues about shutting down and sensor and people. and what we found is that the setup,

the setup kind of digital hate. it's one in mind. ok, man. in their 1st year in united states, they raised almost $1500000.00 out of the blue. we don't know where that money came from, but we do know that $1100000.00 of it came in in one big bolus from what's called a donor assistance fund, which allows you to donate money to. i think it's called the charles schwab and then when it comes from the charles schwab bind to another organization. you can't tell who the original donor is. so it said a very purposely to hide through the actual donors are. so that was the vast majority there money, but we also know is from, you know, a person i interviewed is that, you know, the operator has admitted that he applied to either and the person didn't know was it m i 5 or my 6. we don't know if you got it or not. we certainly know the apply. the certainly seems like an asset for british intelligence, the board, the chair of the board of a stand every county digital, a guy named signing clark is a democratic party. political operative. he's now on the atlantic council. he was

the center for american progress, which is a democratic party think tank, which helped to ride he always buttons campaign. now, in the, in the prices about the last i would say 6 weeks or so. there's been several reports and the post the washington post and the political that labor together was directly advising the hill the hillary clinton campaign. at that point i realize, oh now i get what's going on. but they 1st brought this labor together vehicle called this jennifer kenner, digital hate brought it to the united states to attack all the enemies of the democratic party. now in america, we don't really have a left, so there was no one to go after there. but the people they went to after were r s k junior. and eli must the 2 major threats, the democratic party. right? yeah. and so even campaign for kamala harris. no, i'm sorry it's, it's easy to give these, instead of hillary clinton, kamala harrison. oh yeah, i'm sorry, i'm sorry. yeah. cop copper probably. right? yes. and so in and out of the blue,

i began getting contacts from people inside ccbh, telling me what was going on internally leaking documents and that was their latest piece. and, you know, i just had a bunch of documents that i was being given and i went through the monthly plan or for the stanford county digital hate you. i must suit them because he alleged that they were basically attacking him to try to shut down his advertisers, which is exactly what they have done. the canary is there. their whole topic is throwing happy's issue that you, you're in and i just am i, you're a racist, you're in to you whatever. and then they go to our prices and say, aha, hoping you have advertising this guy. this the game plan. they were running against twitter strikes, shutting down, basically like crush them by it, not having any advertisers. and what we found is in their monthly plan or their annual priority was almost twitter. the 2nd item on the agenda was advertising focus. so we see internally that, i mean,

i do want to get into the trump little assume that's now image, but i that right the quotes that you had met a be put into your articles a showing that a base, kamala harris, holocaust harris gets elected. definitely. it's not good news for anyone using ex anytime soon. i mean they want to destroy. i mean, if already they have agencies that have that on their monthly plan, are they going to be part of oh yeah, ours administration. oh, without a doubt you are mosque. who's already said, i mean, you're on boss, could you go back when he 1st bought twitter? he was not really allied with either a political party. what's happened is the media kind of pushed him in that direction in the direction of the republican party by constantly harping on him, constantly attacking him. and so now he's like, he is a direct supporter of uh, you know, of, uh, your trump, to win the presidency. so of course, he's a target and you know, so we can see like, you know, what they're doing is this is just the interesting thing about it is there's

nothing wrong with a political campaign like this, right? i'm his politics, i'm sorry, like put on your big boy short so lets us, let's go to battle. but this is far as the media interview. right. but this is foreign interference. right. so i can tell you right now i've just gone through their tax records. about one 5th of their money they got last year came from britain to to board members are actually british citizens, one is actually just selected as an m p. christy mcneil is a brand new n p she was on the board. so this is just, this is a labor party vehicle which they use to, you know, put to your stormy and power based on how this is affected. but let's bring over the states. let's see how it works over there. and what makes it so interesting as you know, normally if you understand politics, our politicos do like they project out. right. so american politicos and for a variety of reasons i've heard is because we have the best political operatives

like in the world because we have, we have campaigns happening everywhere. there's ton of money. there's tons of money in american politics. so you can try out new strategies. so when you're an american political operative, you get like there's causally a campaign you can work on. there's cost money that you have to, i figure out how do your polls if that's what we had a new strategies are political operatives like once a campaign is once they go work in england, they go work. it is real argentina, the middle east, eastern europe, whatever. it's very common. and actually in my lifetime, i'm not aware of a single incident in which a brick came over and became an operative. you know, behind the scenes in america, in my mind it's, it's a, it's a very singular actually makes me proud to be british chapel co. uh, here's the letter from the trump campaign. the, uh, the hillen little group incorporated. i don't know whether it's because of your article, a complaint against the labor party, the united kingdom, in name, sexiest tom or the british prime minister in intelligence as

a complaint to an hours for the present for making and accepting illegal for national contributions. so, um, what i mean, what do you exactly happens business version of your constitution? and if it was another country doing this and not a nato vassal state, perhaps it'd be more i outcry. what does this mean for style him or for instance? and how does a legal process work? can they expedite took a stomach virus off to the office? i don't think that's going to happen, but. b i can tell you right now uh, you know, we had in our follow up story that the trump, people are furious about this. and if trump was a presidency, you know, there's multiple ways that you know investigation can happen to set up a kind of digital 8. i know right now the guy running around opted, you know, who worked and he was a, you know, a political worked for several members of,

of the british parliament. he's terrified he's terrified to trump schedule when he sees himself as someone who's very much allied with a democratic party and just give you a sense of that. you know, they held a private meeting this last summer and they had something like a 100 attendees, separate gutter, digital a meeting in washington. there wasn't a single person, right? obvious like 100 different people who attended was very public. it was all democratic operatives, you know, either members from the hill non profits allied with the democratic party, the state department, people like working for the, you know, for the, by the administration. they are a nothing more than a democratic party vehicle now. and so that's why, of course he's got to be worried because you know, what if the truck comes in office and then once the selections over committees are going to be sending out subpoenas, that's gonna happen. and we're gonna see all these internal emails. how many days the price that seems a bit long, you believe i as a british?

yeah, i'm a british subject. if i was working for the british government on the payroll of the british government and was living in washington dc, trying to manipulate the us elections in favor of um, of kamala harris. i mean, i think at the very least my visa would be revoked to be thrown out of the united states. if i'm working for a foreign government drive to manipulate your elections when well, it's very difficult to understand. like when i 1st wrote my 1st piece, i didn't understand why he was not registered as a horn agents. my understanding and i've got to be careful because we got more dr. for the coming out with. i think he's actually become a, he's married and american out in rockman as um and so i think he actually has american citizenship now. um uh it but it's very weird organization. we have some people in, in, in washington working there have people in london that are flying back and forth all the time. it's very hard to tell what's happening. i know that last year, like i said, 20 percent of their money came out of england. and i think that

a lot of their money is actually now coming out of hollywood on him. rod is a, is a very, very smart guy. um, you know, in the 1st piece that i wrote, you know, he's not, he's not from a wealthy background, but he will get back to me. i will get back to him. if i had to pull a, i'll stop you that more from the founder, this information going to go after this break the the welcome back to going under granite. i'm still here with the founder, this information clinical bull faca, pull in part one, you were talking about what might happen. i should just say you, my mom and presumably denies all of this. the labor body a did nothing wrong. everything the saying, you and matt, tell you these article involving the british

u. k. government to corruption and conspiracy to overturn the election over throw the election over throw democracy the united states isn't true. and i should also say actually the charles schwab, the escrow account which was used according to your articles as a sort of slush fund, perhaps for this kind of operation. it's just that escrow account. it wasn't successful that type of account to necessarily disguise in my 5 and the way 6 money . oh no, i'm so what we know now is that that big boss of money came out of hollywood from an agent a what my name a leak a she in. she's an agent of hollywood agent hollywood. her class include mark russell. oh, you'll see on twitter is promoting on iran. ok mid and the center for kind of visual aid. i also found out that they got a big, a big bunch of money from specing or savannah gomez also donated money. her agent

is also on the board. i didn't know his name exactly. i figured out where he was. and then i just heard recently that sasha appeared cohen also gave him some money in his 1st year, and he brags in the office about having dinner with the comedian any schumer. so there's a lot of money coming out of hollywood thought i should just say the bug around flow is that pro palestine activists as well. whereas sasha baron cohen is designed as the agent. so it's interesting how he, there's a bedfellows. all right, so you don't think it makes no sense. but also mark rob blow was a big promoter of jeremy corbin. he's now working directly with iran. ok made who helped to push? jeremy corbin at office. so i mean, you got to understand that like these if was watching it, you can always, you can always come on this you, i think he follows our twitter account. so, you know, i'll come on board. i'm. yeah, so, so obviously these funds are being used to manipulate the electron, but it's fine in the united states if you're an american vote or american citizen

is a good thing to be involved in the electoral process. trying to influence things as part of democracy. if i were to box it, it's a different thing if the key a stomach and the british government is somehow connected to manipulating democracy in the usa. right, exactly, and the other main problem i, i see is, is that the media does not explain to you when they quote them when they put him on argument on, you know, cnn on cbs news. they describe them as the sort of disinterested guy who's going after a is going out there any segments as much as going after as lama phobia. he's not, he's a political operative. his job is to support the democratic party, which the, you know, the cure stormer, z, z z as something that they want to have and work with in the future. yeah, i mean, as part of the nature, i'll give you the, all the american system. i mean, people worried about drums, money coming from miriam adults and obviously,

and that influencing the, the policy if a continuation of holocaust irises, genocide, policy and goes, i mean, you're an expert on medical needs information given the possibility being flagged up by a candidate trump of finally, over throwing the power of big pharmaceutical companies. what could similar types of groups and similar kinds of actions and hidden hans be used to be re, lenny trump presidency. they've tried to attack these powerful pharmaceutical interests, the domain a not just your television advertising, but obviously dominate the world to a certain extent when it comes to the drugs. we swallow. i mean, the, the pharmaceutical industry, you know, when i was in the senate, my investigations were into the pharmaceutical industry. one of the things that i had passed was a law that now requires these companies, they have to report when they send money to doctors. so you can look up doctors now and see who's paying them, but i'll give you a sense of like, how there's this information machinery operates. i run an investigation for the

british medical journal, about problems advisors, clinical trial for the code vaccine. it was based upon internal documents that received from a whistle blower secret recordings, internal documents that showed that clinical trial was kind of a mess. um story, it comes out with him about a week and a half. there is back track lacking contacts from one of the lead stories, one of the fat checkers out there. they couldn't find anything wrong with it. you know, we went when they were my other m j call me, she says, we have this back check, per se, x, y, and z. i told her, i said, i ran investigations for united states senate. i've sat across the table from all the smartest lawyers working for g s k buys or all the big companies. there's nothing wrong in that story because if there was, you know, already got a letter from the ceo or general counsel of pfizer demanding corrections. you didn't get that letter cuz there's nothing wrong with it. these fact checkers don't

check backs. you have a sorry to interrupt you the apple. but i mean, we're on rumble this show we'd be banned and then sometimes we're allowed. but as you know perfectly well and what's relevant is what you just said that you tell you bringing in the senate. and this show goes out intermittently on youtube and right . so in a sense, the power is bigger than your congress. you being in the senate. but yet google, under a surrender up to try sort of see a cut to cut out because google um, is this a contract to? they can be they, they can be weaponized, whoever wins the election next tuesday. it doesn't matter. zach a bug, presumably or what is being censored on the methods facebook as well as on google searches and youtube videos and people asking you questions like this? oh, i, i'll just give you an example of how this censorship works. about a month ago, there was a video circulated with kamala harris saying something about how we're going to

take something down, whatever. and it irritated me was like a 32nd video sweeping around. i took it to clear up on facebook and i said, you know, the person who wants to be the president, democrat, the democratic nominee for president is in favor of censorship. right. i got a fat check out of italy in italian. that marked what i had written on facebook because other people had shared it the same video and a charity and appropriately not what i had said, but they had said other things about the same video. that idea. right. and it was their natalia, and i'm just like, why are italians getting involved and what an american and say about the american election, this entire thought check industry is out of control. it needs to be shut down in iraq. but it's like iraq with a set of challenges will hate their writing the center of it. they actually to put in their tax forms and they, and they lead a coalition of $7070.00 different non profits to deal with it called moderation.

moderation is their code word for censorship. you can see the desperation because that all these different strategies of being the have have seemed to be failing according to swing state polling, obviously too early to tell. but the fact that um, the harris team of high the important lawyers associated with the legal election law fair, if the military industrial complex refuses to accept a trump victory on tuesday, how will its control of a media like social media like facebook, legacy media? i know jeff bezos from amazon has said he's washington post won't to go harris or trump, but this time and they'll be able to run legal cases and they'll be able to propagandized with all their uh, facebook mets. uh um, what's the other one, the game youtube, google google searches, right? so between november and january non stop misinformation and the fact check is line

up. you know, i don't really know what the strategy is, but some of these groups are why they do what they do. i went to twitter and um i came out of there and it to me, it was very obvious, but twitter was very much allied with the democratic party. it's why the and really began attacking, you know, the long most. i think a lot of these other companies are also you know, me before you me up. right. you know that before he bowed to his right before he bought teresa. correct. yeah. yeah. right, exactly. i mean, but i mean, the reason why eli moss is so despises, go, he took away the democratic parties, censorship, tory, you know, you can see it internally. i mean, as soon as he started, even pretend he was going to buy it all these story. this is a guy who was man of the year on the front page of time. and then from there, once he started talking about buying twitter, all these story started floating up about how he was, you know, allied against transgender white nationalism. any semitism, you name it like the story is it is coming left to right years. one of the craziest

media, one of these, i think i've ever seen a light and that read did kind of told me what was going on is you know, this is something that's happening behind the scenes. we don't totally know that all of it, but we definitely know that, you know, the military's involved intelligence agencies are involved and the democratic parties involved. and, you know, as far as i'm concerned, the whole thing to then i don't need a batch or i'm a grown up. don't even tell me what to think. well, the kill must strategy. always be still going on with the foreign interference from brit blue. but you know, we've had no, i'm john ski on this ro, we've had jump the late jump pill john, this joe julian and sons. i run, they play all the strategies, even the ones outlined in your latest work don't seem to be quite working um off of a democrats 90 percent of the g o. b. they don't trust media and i presume includes all this type of oh yeah. does that mean that the, they've actually lost it with the american people?

the american people are showing themselves that they can would stand at their tablets area and attend by the dnc. there's a gallup photo. i mean, the latest thing that happened was, you know, the washington post refused to come out and endorse either candidate and 250000 people. cut off their subscriptions, the washington post. because what is going on is a lot of a lot of the, you know, the big media outlets and like that. and i have talked about this. there was a huge shift over to the left where a lot of these media outlets just became out pieces for the democratic party. and people saw it. you know, people, my trusted the media is gone. you know, i mean, i know reporters that like different, you know, the big outlets new york times washington post. they tell me like, it's so crazy that you know, they don't know that really know what's going on anymore. so the trust is loss of media, but it's for good cause because they destroyed themselves based off to become a reporters. they started to come out pieces for the democratic party. people see

it, they're not stupid. i think, you know, i was talking to my sister about this. so i think is like a good kind of a good person to talk to kind of average american, you know, lives in the suburbs of atlanta, you know, works for a financial group during back and stuff on them. and i asked her what she thought about what was going on with the media in america. and she said, the problem is, trump lies all the time. but even when he doesn't lie, the media says he lives so you don't know what to believe in my that that's the problem is the media is not trusted anymore because they make up stuff about tom. and then just finally on the articles from this week, you expect any action under trump administration fee us or action against the british government. talking to, to the british ambassador perhaps. and i certainly know visas for any use labor and peace coming to interfere with your elections. i don't expect that, but i do expect subpoena as to, you know, land in iraq meds. no. ready inbox i expect, i hope that like we're going to see all the emails of everything that was being

done. you know, after our story came out, he planted a story in the guardian and a story in the washington post to try to beat back our reporting. i knew it was going to do it because i never, yes, he's been planting stories in the british media forever. he's now doing it america . it's going to come to an end because people now know who he is. he actually had to turn off the replies on his account because he's always reading anything. there'd be like a 100 replies, it will tell him to get out of it, get out of the america, go back to england and stop interfering in our elections. well, he says he's just countering digital hate full factor. thank you. all right, thanks for having me as absent. that's it for the show. i'll continue condolences to those surviving the u. k. u s. u, i'm to all the coolest here in this region. will be back on monday eve of the us presidential election to explore israel as role in anointing. the success as a genocide. joe with all of their name, you nominated filmmaker, james, bam. foot until then keep in touch, i will i social media if it's not sensitive in your country and had to a channel going under guaranteed the hon,

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