tv Interview RT November 3, 2024 7:30am-8:00am EST
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me see, now her old woman crew didn't use by the way, just to add to this any digital devices to make the journey only traditional navigation equipment. we simply discovered her love for sailing while studying nautical science. she spoke with archie about her trip and what sealing means to her? i like is like seeing the will sing or them not in any miles. and then this does taking the size from the sun just as the moon. it was amazing and one of the conic uh moments as there was sailing and the notorious of southern ocean. i'm in a man. this is everything the same to say and around the cape horn and the southern ocean. and for me, at the age of $75.00, i've already said orlando. well, so that is a huge achievement for me. and if you would told me like here's a good that it's $25.00 i'll be sending or underwood. i will, i wouldn't, has,
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you know, i wouldn't have believed it, but yeah, it was sending around the world that'll be presenting every woman of this and until becoming the 1st black woman in the us and ken coordinates as they can navigate to was means a lot to me and i whole many women of that would be inspired by my story. she did so in the depths of last winter as well well done to her, hopefully she does well and not a word, certainly not. why would an american national risk, his liberty, and even his life to offer information to the russian that featuring 5 points in don't bounce. we ask daniel martin deal the question directly here. his answer the daniels. thank you so much for meeting with us today. really that we heard that you were in the press conference starts before coming over to the combat zone. you were in poland for
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a couple of years. as an missionary. can you just explain to us what what, what that entails. ok. i was a small grateful and polish village where there was a protestant church and i was working with children in summer camps, teaching them english. but of course, with the whole christian theme to everything that was just the during the summer during the rest of the year while i was there just trying to live like a christian. and to be a good example. and basically what that being missionary is and that to be the missionary is that what prompted you to go to it's across the board or into creating back in february of 2022 in part. but i really should say that probably the biggest motivation was my desire to be in russia, if and when world war 3 starts
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as a found out. so just recently turns out that you were to under cover for the what's called executive, let's say, let's go with russian intentions. internet's republic for the last 2 years. how did you manage to stay under texas? was such a long time. i have to say for the lord, for the i did do my good due diligence to keep chats and my telegram deleted, keep the cash clean. i took all of those precautions as necessary, but nobody ever checked my phone during that whole time. but i was in the village, i'm very surprised by that everything. everybody's really surprised by that. the probably the us passport helped a lot. and the fact that i really was helping a lot of people in the village. everybody was happy that i was there. if you needed to get your roof fixed,
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patched up after some kind of damage from the war. then i was the 1st one who would come and fix your roof or your windows help people with their the gardens. and so everybody was happy that it was there. and i was friends with people who really were waiting for russian to come. and they were in turn, were friends with the local government. so i had good connections and that's the way it happened. he spent the entire 2 years in that village of, of a young man. nothing at all. i was in ukraine for 2 and a half year. yeah. but not the whole time. was there a lot of it a basically the place became a something. it's easy because you got to know all the people that lived in the village and working with them and helping them. i would say that people became dear to me and my animals to me, but not the village itself. the village itself was more like a prison. what do you mean by that?
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i mean that when you're in prison, you have, you really have no friends. everybody really is with a knife to your back, potentially at least. and the people in charge are ready to kill you. if they find out that you're not really there front. that was probably the biggest challenge here, right? not knowing what to expect. and for me. next is that was that one of the biggest challenges you would say mentally, i would say the biggest challenge was trying not to become extremely angry to the point of losing my ability to properly function in life. because of the fact that it was in that at that distance away from the front line that all of the training artillery was basically firing from my backyard. and in my
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mind, when our tether recreating artillery is firing, it means they're killing my friends. and i just had to listen to that, i couldn't do anything about it except to get what information i have, which was most of the time, probably insufficient to really try to like back. so that knowledge that my friends are dying out there and i can't do anything about it was extremely hard to bear as been. it was from the messages that we saw in the media last week, and you were ex factors or evacuated from near the city of the dar. um, how did you end up there? somebody help you to evacuate to that place or is that where the village boys that said you weren't realizing in houses that happened when i was evacuated. yeah,
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the front line was actually right through the middle of the village where our lived . so as soon as we got out of the village, we basically were in friendly territory, not completely out of danger, but in friendly territory. that was all thanks to soldiers from the 29th army russian eastern command. what was the feeling in your heart when you finally felt that you know, you're out of danger? i didn't really understand it immediately is probably mostly because i've become so accustomed to being in danger. it took me quite a while to really understand that that is the fact that i'm no longer in danger. i would say that the 1st feeling i had when i saw the russian soldiers there in the
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village, it was you for a very happy to see them all the time when they came. it was only about a half an hour after i had been sitting in the cellar and i heard ukrainian soldiers right above my head. and in the summer kitchen where i was staying. and so i was expecting a firefight to flush them out. they laughed on their own, but when the russian soldiers came in, they they called for me. at 1st i wasn't sure because it was possible that the ukrainian soldiers were calling for me. but they had intercepted some ready to come communication. mm hm. and they knew how to call me. so i needed to be sure that the soldiers were actually rushing not just because they had a, a white arm band. and because they're speaking russian great in soldiers to do that
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just as easily. and if they knew who was going to be rescued and they would probably link that kind of an effort to stop the recreation. but when it came up the stairs opened the door a little bit. the 1st a russian soldier that i saw was probably a non i indian from like oceans. mm hm. and so i know that ukraine is don't have asian sold a very good. so i knew immediately that finally, i'm free. so what was, uh, so the 1st interaction between you guys, when you, when you realize that, you know, they sold out what didn't actually know that i was american. okay. they just knew that they needed to pick up a valuable package. and the impulse ok. and so they came down in the cellar with me and they wanted to hear the whole story. so i gave them
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a short rundown of my motivation. why me from there? how long i'd been there, who i am. and they were in shock. because imagine um i'm not sure about it. so you know, the type of details that we can ask, but i think the kind of just gave us the sense sofa, you know how this expression was taking place after all, you were indeed like you said in that field or a very important package because uh, you provided quite a quite a lot of information uh to the russian soldiers, all type of information are we talking about. all i can say is that the main purpose of it was to try to minimize the losses among civilians and our own soldiers. yeah, that's, that's pretty much uh, you know, good coverage. the entire thing, right. let's, let's switch to
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a little bit different of the topics because obviously 2 and a half years in ukraine and you being a missionary and helping people out. obviously, you have interaction a lot with the locals. if you remember, like most recently what, what's the mood among the regular ukrainian civilians? for the in regards to the entire friendship that is happening, tragedies that are a good word they they saw the tragedy just as close as anybody could. and mostly the tragedy was happening to them. most of them who left the village over the last period of time before the russians came laugh because they didn't have a really any place to live left. that's because of the war.
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i should say that in the end that's all the fault of the training government. it doesn't matter whose bomb it was. most artillery shell, it was the cleaning or is it fault? did you experience from the level population please? some people that's there waiting for russia to come in and stop this entire thing or to deliberate them. or was there this feeling of, you know, losing liberation from russia? i think probably before the situation got really hot, that probably everybody there was only making plans about what kind of party they were going to throw when the russians came. okay. i was the same way. i didn't realize how difficult it was going to be to move the trainings out to flush them
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out. i probably would have planned a little bit differently but, but that was the idea is that the russians are going to come and fortune party either they will be or there is going to be order about order will be restored. there will be stability of law, something that was missing in your training for more than 30 years, where you proceed with the, by the ukrainian armed forces by you create in special services. just another uh, send me an e mail came out here to help or how would we proceed for them ever had any interactions with them? yes, i had lots of interactions with them. um, probably 5050 positive and negative. mm hm. i met with a lot of suspicion, mostly probably because of the way i say probably needs really. yeah. that's there. are you aware that sort of the star test where it yeah,
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before i understood what that was about. i said it just like a russian would say, mm hm. and so of i met with a lot of suspicion it's fairly uncommon for an american to even come to a village like that much less than live there. and so they, it was very common to that for them to have questions about why you're here. because you're on aren't great, right? if an armed and without any official sponsor so they were left to wonder. is he working for the russians? is he an agent for the c i a is he just crazy me? i've ever figured it out right? instinctively i there were quite a few of them who, who knew me, they understood that i was not the friend just instinctively. mm hm.
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but that's not enough to go and kill me. so they have to leave me alone. would you? is it from your communications, with the crate in the commanders or soldiers or if anybody from the army, could you gauge their mood at this moment in time towards you? know their role in what is happening or you didn't have any directions of that kind of be closer to the directions just to see what are they thinking about this entire thing? close interactions. so over the last 6 months, for example, with your training officers didn't happen, but i did have quite a few encounters with just regular foot soldiers. and in general, i would say that they were beginning to understand that they were just being used.
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and that it's a losing battle, probably the same question goes for the, you know, regular, ukrainian, the civilians. and the other thing question for all the goals for the, for the regular civilians as well. and so how they will feel towards their own ukrainian. the army is there, you know, ubiquitous support for, for everything that they do, how this billions approach there are, are made because we hear different things here in russian as well. and we have to, you know, get this information bit by bit. but since you were there and you lived with the civilian ukrainians, what does that think about their army? that was a very common topic of discussion. just about everybody. wanted to tell me how they felt. i think they understood that sooner or later what they told me would
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make it into public there, right. the but the other side of the coin is the fact that it's just one village and they were in a very specific situation. it doesn't necessarily speak for all of ukraine, but in general, i would say that they all felt betrayed by the government. and perhaps it wasn't even a surprise for them that we were, they were being betrayed. they were just angry that their government was betraying them. idea and doing it in a way that put their own relatives and their like own lives in grave danger. kidnapping their young men to go fight and the fighting the war in
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a way that put the village in danger on a daily basis. you know of, of the last few years. well, even before the start of the special village operation, i have interviewed will at least half a dozen or $54.00 in mercenaries who were taken prisoner in dunbar. for example, australia, united states, u. k. cro asia, many, many, many different countries from your experience there, have you seen any of these so foreigners while you were you 2 and a half years in ukraine? have you seen any of these people with my own 2 eyes. yeah. i haven't seen any. okay. but i can say with fair certainty that they were in the village
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1st, an american. i heard him talking me 1st when he walked by my place. that was in the summer of 2022. and then most recently about august i think of this year there were rumors everywhere in the village about of some 50 to a 100. a lot of americans from south america, from mexico central america were with us in the village and who apparently were very bold in their theory. didn't even pay attention to the increase in military when the green and military their host would try to stop them from reading civilian homes. and that happens, i'm quite sure that it did. so basically they're, they're all $0.04 and making their own decisions without considering the whatever
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you train army would say, right? i suppose it's just a matter of how criminal they are, as they are and really have no scruples. they are not in their own country. they don't fear any punishment for what they're doing. they're being paid well. and so they feel like they have complete immunity. probably to do whatever they want. this come from the balance here, right? yeah. typical mercenaries? yeah. yeah, i would say what it was going to expand a little bit more of this. i'd say, you know, obviously you haven't been in touch with them. all right. just trying to gauge the number 4 and mercenaries are within the ranks of the ukraine and army at the moment . just right. yeah, we can, we can talk about that. let's. uh, let's, let's talk about a you personal opinion. and people have for different reasons for picking up arms
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for a foreign country. these mercenaries that are fighting for ukraine and say kidding russian soldiers and a russian civilians. what is the main, what motivation or perhaps so we can talk about the range of motivations for all of those people. what drives them to come here and to pick up arms against russians if they're american, i would expect that in most cases, they just believe the propaganda or an american is really not going to be interested in the kind of money that i believe these mercenaries are being paid, it's not enough to make them risk their lives. you wait for flipping burgers, right. you probably could make more fighting, not being part of the american military. right. so why would you go fighting ukraine? they probably believe that they're the white knights,
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but they're defeat in the old use. a powerful, powerful thing. i said that, i mean it is, i suppose i'm an example of that. well, you know, there's a good side and the bad side. i mean, we allow 2 answers to go on at some point or another. and uh, you know, the end of the day, you know, we judge ourselves whether we did everything. and i would say to them that before you go and fight some war somewhere, look not only at news from your own side, but also from the side that they try to scare you away from. if they demonize someone that what their writing and telegram is from shaking himself, the likelihood is that they are state themselves. and what they're trying to scare you away from is the truth. read both compare and maybe will
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understand where, where truth is. you know, it's funny, i tell this to my students, so all the time as well don't, should there read whatever i write, read everybody in that form your own opinion. ok. and finally, today you, i saw a very that such and that touching video, a phone call with your parents or your brother, i believe best. yes. can you tell us the purpose of why that video had to be shown today to the public and russel and then now around the world was dependent very shortly. it's called the dead man's switch. it said to me, i suppose tie the hands of those whom i tried to put pressure on me by for security . my parents to be afraid of that. i'm not afraid of it, but i do see
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a need to try to counteract it. why would you get into an accident if you could put on your seat belt? exactly precaution after that and obviously you use both of you mentioned the days it was a few days ago and you mentioned data on the, on the phone call just recently. so and before that you haven't spoken to your parents face to face in a long time and out. and i got goosebumps when i was watching that and your reaction, what was into your heart when you finally managed to speak to them, and to tell them like, i'm fine. everything is good. i'm going to smile in my face. what did you feel? i would say was just extreme satisfaction that what we've been waiting for for so long is finally happened. definitely all of those, all of the sales in my body who knows that that's my dad and my mom just jumped so it was definitely not the same as seeing them in person. mm hm. but at least if i
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video, you know, my mind has already built come to firmly believe that yes, my parents are in good health. same things happen for them almost as good as being reunited from what i saw from the vehicle. um the you have their full support and everything that you to do. and we're all deep believers in jesus. and he brings us to the understanding of truth. and that truth is the same for them as it is for me. and as long as we all follow our conscience and what we're doing, then where could we find disagreement? and uh, finally, one last question probably has to do with the where you see yourself in the near
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future. you're over the 30 to 33 years old. the moments so your whole life is ahead of you and perhaps you associated your future with russia in some way since you're here already. can you tell us about this? so what are your thoughts? well, it has a lot to do with whether or not a words on a, if the war ends and we have peace and i would go back to doings, probably something similar to what i've done in peace time before, which is either farming or building farm equipment for farmers but sense or as raging most likely i would like to be involved in it in some way. i probably would like to do my everything i can for the civilians that i left behind in the village and perhaps work with
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a similar situations or always is putting civilians who have ended up close to the front line in extreme danger. and then a lot of need and there's probably, there's always room for another person to help them. i like that for forming for military. you know, that in russia you can get a free share of where and in the far east. yeah. you know about that originally again when i was talking about it, but yeah, there was a chance if much land as you want. it's like america back in the or the 18th century, 20 or so 19th century is. right. i think we're done. thank you very much. for the interview, thanks for having me. the the,
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