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tv   Worlds Apart  RT  November 3, 2024 11:30am-12:01pm EST

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again and again, you hear, we've run, find that many people feel this way, although they emphasize that they are very proud of that town. no, but we're not like politicians who are running their miles off. they talk on tv, whitening dirt off each other, and no one is coming here to lend a helping hand to go on some streets. people complete, the blogs also piled up at the entrances to building paper admits that he's still in shock. however, he tries to maintain cheerfulness, despite what he sees around him, as you come here and it's a real battle field, it's the epi sense of the hurricane. as time goes by, little by little, the name is reconciled with the enormity of what has happened. i came here, most civilians worried about what will happen when the rescue teams play the rubble . how many more bodies will they pull out in the alpha area? there are places with no drinking boss. i know there's, there's no electricity. but everyone is scared. in the midst of these despair, every opponent has tries to help as best as they can, control bottles of water and some sandwiches made by his children through roads
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encouraging messages. when you watch it on tv at home, on the couch, you say, oh my god, what's going on? but when you come here, it's impossible to describe where there's still a lot of work to be done. it's a terribly difficult job. so many worry. so many questions, the one thing is clear to the big savings to exactly help them in that time of need . and finally, in the run up the to their 1st ever by left roll drills for ships from the russian navy specific fleets, paid a friendly call to end an easy sports. the joint exercise called a route on 2024 will be held from november 4th. tate in the port of the sort of by a the agenda includes joint maneuvering, firing on the practice release of the ship. hi john fy pirates. russian vessels were welcomed by representatives of the indonesian maybe as well as most schools and bustler to indonesia. emphasize they significant somebody event for both nations. now,
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why would an american national risk is liberty and even his life to offer information to the russian latrete dream thoughts and don't balance? we are still new, martindale directly here. his answer the daniels, thank you so much for meeting with us today. really that we heard that you were in the press conference starts before coming over to the combat zone. you were in poland for a couple of years. as an missionary, can you just explain to us what, what, what that entails. okay, was a small grateful and polish village where there was a protestant church and i was working with children in summer camps,
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teaching them english. but of course, with the whole christian theme to everything that was just during the summer during the rest of the year while i was there just trying to live like a christian. and to be a good example. and basically what that being missionary is and that to be the missionary is that what prompted you to go to it's across the board or into cream back in february of 2022 in part. but i really should say that probably the biggest motivation was my desire to be in russia if and when world war 3 start. um, as we found out. so just recently turns out that you were to under cover for the know what's called executive. let's say, let's go with russian intentions, internet's republic for the last 2 years. how did you manage to stay under texas
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for such a long time? i have to say for as the lord for the i did do my good due diligence to keep chats and my telegram deleted, keep the cash clean and i took all of those precautions as necessary, but nobody ever checked my phone during that whole time. but i was in the village, i'm very surprised by that everything. everybody's really surprised by that. the probably the us passport helped a lot. and the fact that i really was helping a lot of people in the village. everybody was happy that i was there. if you needed to get your roof fixed, patched up after some kind of damage from the war. then i was the 1st one who would come and fix your roof or your windows help people with their the gardens. and so everybody was happy that it was there and i was friends with people who
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really were waiting for russian to come. and they were in turn, were friends with the local government. so i had good connections and that's the way it happened. he spent the entire 2 years in that village of, of a young man. nothing at all. i was in ukraine for 2 and a half year. yeah. but not the whole time. was there a lot of it a basically the place became uh, something it's easy because you got to know all the people that lived in the village and working with them and helping them. i would say the people became dear to me, my animals to me, but not the village itself. the village itself was more like a prison. what do you mean by that? i mean that when you're in prison, you have, you really have no friends. everybody really is with a knife to your back potentially at least. and the people in charge are ready to
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kill you. if they find out that you're not really there front. tell us probably the biggest challenge here, right? not knowing what to expect. and for me, next is it was that one of the biggest challenges you would say mentally, i would say the biggest challenge was trying not to become extremely angry to the point of losing my ability to properly function in life. because of the fact that it was in that, at that distance away from the front line, that all of the refraining artillery was basically firing from my backyard. and in my mind, when our tether recreating artillery is firing, it means they're killing my friends. and i just had to listen to that, i couldn't do anything about it except give what information i have,
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which was most of the time, probably, and sufficient to really fight like back. so that knowledge that my friends are dying out there and i can't do anything about it was extremely hard to bear espanol from the messages that we saw in the media last week. and you were extracted or evacuated from near the city of the dar. and how did you end up there? somebody help you to evacuate to that place or is that where the village boys that you weren't realizing. and how did that happen when i was evacuated? yeah, the front line was actually right through the middle of the village where i lived. so as soon as we got out of the village, we basically were in friendly territory. not completely out of danger, but in friendly territory. that was all thanks to soldiers from the 29th army
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russian eastern command. what was the feeling in your heart when you finally felt that you know, you're out of danger? i didn't really understand it immediately. probably mostly because i'd become so accustomed to be in danger. it took me quite a while to really understand that that is the fact that i'm no longer in danger. i would say that the 1st feeling i had when i saw the russian soldiers there in the village, it was you for a very happy to see them the time when they came. it was only about
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a half an hour after i had been sitting in the cell are and i heard ukrainian soldiers right above my head and in the summer kitchen where i was staying. and so i was expecting a firefight to flush them out. they left on their own, but when the russian soldiers came in, they they called for me. at 1st i wasn't sure because it was possible that the ukrainian soldiers were calling for me. but they had intercepted some ready to come communication. mm hm. and they knew how to call me. so i needed to be sure that the soldiers were actually rushing not just because they had a, a white arm band. and because they're speaking russian great in soldiers to do that just as easily. and if they knew who was going to be rescued, they would probably link that kind of an effort to stop the recreation. but when it came up, the stairs opened the door a little bit. the 1st
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a russian soldier that i saw was probably a non i indian from like ocean. mm hm. and so i know that ukraine is don't have asian sold. exactly. so i knew immediately that finally, i'm free. so what was the 1st interaction between you guys when you, when you realize that, you know, i did sell them or didn't actually know that i was american. okay. they just knew that they needed to pick up a valuable package to atlanta. so, uh huh. and so they came down in the cellar with me and they wanted to hear the whole story. so i gave them a short rundown of my motivation. why me from there? how long i've been there who i am and they're in shock. me to the manager. i'm not sure about it. so you know, the, the,
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the type of details that we can ask, but i think you kind of just gave us a sense sofa, you know how this expression was taking place after all, you were indeed right. is it certain that my silica or a very important package because you provided quite if the quite a lot of information uh to the russian soldiers, all type of information i was talking about. all i can say is that the main purpose of it was to try to minimize the losses among civilians and our own soldiers. yeah, that's the, that's pretty much, uh, you know, it covers the entire thing, right. let's, let's switch to a little bit different to the topics because obviously 2 and a half years in ukraine and you being a missionary and helping people out. obviously you have interaction
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a lot with the locals. if you remember, like most recently what, what's the move among the regular ukrainian civilians for the in regards to the entire tragedy that is happening. tragedy is a very good word. they. they saw the tragedy just as close as anybody could. and mostly the tragedy was happening to them. most of them who left the village over the last period of time before the russians came laugh because they didn't have a really any place to live left. that's because of the war. i should say that in the end that's all the fault of the ukrainian government. the doesn't matter who is bomb it was those artillery shell,
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it was the screening government as fault. did you experience from the level population please? some people that's there waiting for russia to come in and stop this entire thing or to deliberate them. where's? where's their disputing of, you know, losing liberation from russia? i think probably before the situation got really hot, that probably everybody there was only making plans about what kind of party they were going to throw when the russians came. okay. i was the same way. i didn't realize how difficult it was going to be to move the trainings out to flush them out of the i probably would have to find a little bit differently. but, but that was the idea because the russians are going to come and fortune party either they will be or there's going to be order of our order will be restored.
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there will be stability and law or something that was missing and you're creating it for more than 30 years. i or you proceed with the by the ukrainian armed forces by you creating special services. just another uh, city and know came out here to help or how would we proceed by them ever had any interactions with them? yes, i have lots of interactions with them. probably 5050, positive and negative. mm hm. i met with a lot of suspicion. mostly probably because of the way i say probably needs really . yeah. and that's there. are you aware that this or do you have a star test where it yeah, before i understood what that was about. i said it just like a rushing, let's say. mm hm. and so i met with a lot of suspicion it's fairly uncommon for an american to
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even come to a village like that much less to live there. and so they, it was very common to that for them to have questions about why you're here. because you're on our break, right? if an armed and without any official sponsor so they were left to wonder. is he working for the russians? is he an agent for the c i a is he just crazy me? i've never figured it out right. instinctively i there were quite a few of them who, who knew me, they understood that i was not there friends just instinctively. mm. by so that's not enough to go and kill me. so i had to leave me alone. i would you is from your communications with the ukrainian
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and commanders or soldiers, or if anybody from the army, could you gauge their mood at this moment in time towards you know that their role in what is happening or you didn't have any directions of that kind can be closer to the direction just to see what are they thinking about this entire thing? close interactions. so over the last 6 months of it, for example, with the training officers didn't happen. but i didn't have quite a few encounters with just regular foot soldiers. mm. hm, and in general, i would say that they were beginning to understand that they were just being used and that it's a losing battle. probably the same question goes for the, you know, regular, ukrainian, the civilians. and so the thing question probably goes for the,
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for the regular civilians as well and how they will feel towards their own ukrainian. the army is there, you know you because support for, for everything that they do. how this variance approach, there are, are they because we hear different things here in russia as well. and we have to, you know, get this information bit by bit, but since you were there and you lived with the civilian ukrainians, what does it think about their army? that was a very common topic of discussion. just about everybody. wanted to tell me how they felt. i think they understood that sooner or later what they told me would make it into public there. right? but the other side of the coin is the fact that it's just one village
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and they were in a very specific situation. it doesn't necessarily speak for all of ukraine. but in general, i would say that they all felt betrayed by that. and perhaps it wasn't even a surprise for them that were they were being betrayed. they were just angry that their government was betraying them idea and doing it in a way that put their own relatives. and they were like, own lives in grave danger. kidnapping their young men to go fight and to fighting the war in a way that put the village in danger on a daily basis. you know of how the last few years. well, even before the start of the special village operation, i have interviewed will at least half
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a dozen or $54.00 in mercenaries who were taken prisoner in dunbar. for example, um astray. the united states. u. k. cro asia, many, many, many different countries from your experience there, have you seen any of these so foreigners while you were you 2 and a half years or in ukraine? have you seen any of these people with my own 2 eyes. yeah. i haven't seen any. okay. but i can say with fair certainty that they were in the village 1st, an american. i heard him talking me 1st when he walked by my place that was in the summer of 2022. and then most recently about
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august i think of this year there were rumors everywhere in the village about some 50 to a 100. a lot of americans from south america, from mexico central america were with us in the village and who apparently were very bold in their fever a. i didn't even pay attention to the training in military when the green and military there are hosts would try to stop them from reading civilian homes that have make i'm quite sure that it did. so basically they're, they're all $0.04 and making their own decisions without considering the whatever you create an army would say, right? i suppose it's just a matter of how criminal they are, that they are really have no scruples. they're not in their own country. they
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don't fear any punishment for what they're doing. they're being paid well. and so they feel like they have complete immunity. probably to do whatever they want. they've come from the balance here, right? yeah. typical mercenaries? yeah. yeah, i would say i was, i was going to expand a little bit more of this. uh but so, you know, obviously you haven't been in touch with them. all right. just trying to gauge. the number 4 in mercenary said within the ranks of the you create an army at the moment, just right. yeah, we can, we can talk about that. let's. uh, let's, let's talk about your personal opinion. and people have for different reasons for picking up arms for a foreign country. these mercenaries that are fighting for ukraine and giving russian soldiers and russian civilians. what is the main one motivation or
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perhaps so we can talk about the range of motivations for all of those people. what drives them to come here and pick up or? and so you have questions if they're american, i would expect that in most cases, they just believe the propaganda. the american is really not going to be interested in the kind of money that i believe these mercenaries are being paid. mm hm. it's not enough to make them risk their lives. you wait for flipping burgers, right? you probably could make more fighting, not being part of the american military. right? so why would you go fight? and new cri. they probably believe that they're the white knights, but they're defeat in the old use. a powerful for powerful thing. i said, i think it is. i suppose i'm an example of that. well, you know, there's
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a good side in the bad side. i mean, we'll have 2 answers to god at some point or another. and you know, the end of the day, you know, with judge ourselves, whether we did everything. and i would say to them that before you go and fight some or somewhere, look not only at news from your own side, but also from the side that they try to scare you away from. if they demonize someone that what they're writing and telegram is from shaking himself, the likelihood is that they are state themselves. and what they're trying to scare you away from is the truth. read both compare and maybe will understand where, where truth is. you know, it's funny, i tell this to my students, so all the time as well, don't you there? read whatever i write,
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read everybody there. form your own opinion. ok. and finally, today you, i saw a very uh, searching, touching video, phone call with your parents or your brother, i believe best. yes. can you tell us the purpose of why that video had to be shown today to the public and russel and then now around the world was dependent very shortly. it's called the dead man's switch. it's to me, i suppose, tie the hands of those whom i tried to put pressure on me by for security. my parents are afraid of that. i'm not afraid of it, but i do see a need to try to counteract it. why would you get into an accident if you could put on your seat belt? exactly precaution after that and um,
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obviously you use both of you mentioned the days it was a few days ago. yeah. um, you mentioned date on the, on the phone call, just recently so and before that you have spoken to your parents face to face in a long time and out. and i got goosebumps when i was watching that and your reaction, what was into your heart when you finally managed to speak to them, and to tell them like, i'm fine. everything is good. i'm going to smile about face. what did you feel? i would say was just extreme satisfaction that what we've been waiting for for so long is finally happened. definitely all of those. all of the cells in my body who knows that that's my dad and my mom just jumped. so it was definitely not the same as seeing them in person who this but at least i buy video and i know my mind has already been come to firmly believe that. yes,
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my parents are in good health. same things happen for them almost as good as being reunited from what i saw from the vehicle. um the you have their full support and everything they need to do um were all deep believers in jesus. and he brings us to the understanding of truth. and that truth is the same for them as it is for me. and as long as we all follow our conscience and what we're doing, then where could we find disagreement? and finally, one last question probably has to do with the where you see yourself in the near future. you're on the 30 to 33 years old, the moments. so your whole life is ahead of you and perhaps you associated your future with russia in some way since you're here already. can
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you tell us about this? so what are your thoughts? well, it has a lot to do with whether or not a words on this is how the war ends. we have peace and i would go back to doing is probably something similar to what i've done in peace time before, which is either farming or building farm equipment for farmers but cents or as raging. most likely, i would like to be involved in it in some way. i probably would like to do my everything i can for the civilians that i left behind in the village and perhaps work with a similar situations or always is putting civilians who have ended up close to the front line in extreme danger.
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and then a lot of need and there's probably there is always room for another person to help them. how like that for forming or involuntary. you know that in russia you can get a free heck, there of words in the far the see, i don't know about that originally again when i was talking about it, but yeah, there was a chance. is much land as you want. it's like america, back in the or the 18th century or so the 19th century is right. i think we're done. thank you very much for the interview. thanks for having me. the the r o t r t. formerly known as russia today trying to influence the presidential
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