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tv   Interview  RT  November 3, 2024 4:30pm-5:01pm EST

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and everything, and that was just the, during the summer during the rest of the year while i was there just trying to live like a christian and to be a good example. and basically what that being missionary is and that to be the missionary is that what prompted you to go to it's across the border into cream back in february of 2022 in part. but i really should say that probably the biggest motivation was my desire to be in russia if and when world war 3 starts as we found out. so just recently turns out that you were to under cover for the know what's called executive. let's say, let's go with russian intelligence internet's republic for the last 2 years. how did you manage to stay under texas for such a long time? i have to say for as the lord for that i did do my good due diligence to
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keep chats and my telegram deleted. keep the cash clean and i took all of those precautions as necessary, but nobody ever checked my phone during that whole time. but i was in the village, i'm very surprised by that everything. everybody's really surprised by that. the probably the us passport helped a lot. and the fact that i really was helping a lot of people in the village. everybody was happy that i was there. if you needed to get your roof fixed, patched up after some kind of damage from the war, then i was the 1st one who would come and fix your roof or your windows help people with their the gardens. and so everybody was happy that i was there and i was friends with people who really were waiting for russian to come. and they were in
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turn, were friends with the local government. so i had good connections and that's the way it happened. he spent the entire 2 years in that village of, of a young man. nothing at all. i was in ukraine for 2 and a half year. yeah. but not the whole time. was there a lot of it a basically the place became a something a dizzy because you got to know all the people that lived in the village and working with them and helping them. i would say that people became dear to me and my animals to me, but not the village itself. the village itself was more like a prison. what do you mean by that? i mean that when you're in prison, you have, you really have no friends. everybody really is with a knife to your back potentially at least. and the people in charge are ready to kill you. if they find out that you're not really their friend. that was probably
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the biggest challenge, right? not knowing what to expect. and for me. next, if it was that one of the biggest challenges you would say mentally, i would say the biggest challenge was trying not to become extremely angry to the point of losing my ability to properly function in life. because of the fact that it was in that, at that distance away from the front line that all of the recreating artillery was basically firing from my backyard. and in my mind, what are the other 3 greener jewelry is firing? it means they're killing my friends. and i just had to listen to that, i couldn't do anything about it except get what information i have, which was most of the time, probably in sufficient to really try to like back. so that knowledge that
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my friends are dying out there and i can't do anything about it was extremely hard to bear, especially with, from the messages that we saw in the media last week. and you were extracted or evacuated from near the city of the dar. and how did you end up there if somebody help you to evacuate to that place, or is that where the village was that so you weren't realizing. and how did that happen when i was evacuated? yeah, the front line was actually right through the middle of the village where i lived. so as soon as we got out of the village, we basically were in friendly territory. not completely out of danger, but in friendly territory. that was all thanks to soldiers from the 29th army russian eastern command. mm hm. what was the feeling in your heart when you
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finally felt that you know, you're out of danger? i didn't really understand it. immediately, probably mostly because i'd become so accustomed to being in danger. it took me quite a while to really understand that that is the fact that i'm no longer in danger. i would say that the 1st feeling i had when i saw the rest and soldiers there in the village, it was you for a very happy to see them all the time when they came. it was only about a half an hour after i had been sitting in the cellar and i heard ukrainian soldiers right above my head. and in the summer kitchen where i was staying. and so
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i was expecting a firefight to flush them out. they laughed on their own, but when the russian soldiers came in, they they called for me. at 1st i wasn't sure because it was possible that the ukrainian soldiers were calling for me. that they'd intercepted some ready to come communication and they knew how to call me. so i needed to be sure that the soldiers were actually rushing not just because they had a white arm band. and because they're speaking russian recreating soldiers to do that, just as easily and if they knew who was going to be rescued, they would probably think that kind of an effort to stop the recreation. but when i came up the stairs opened the door a little bit. the 1st a russian soldier that i saw was probably
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a non i indian from like oceans. mm hm. and so i know that ukraine is don't have asian sold. exactly. so i knew immediately that finally are free. so what was the 1st interaction between you guys when you, when you realize that, you know, they sold out what didn't actually know that i was american. okay. they just knew that they needed to pick up a valuable package to in their pursuit. and so they came down in the cellar with me and they wanted to hear the whole story. so i gave them a short rundown of my motivation. why me from there? how long i've been there who i am and they're in shock. me can imagine. um, i'm not sure about it. so you know, the type of details that we can ask, but i think you kind of just gave us the sense sofa, you know how this expression,
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what is taking place after all you were indeed like you said in that field or a very important that package because uh you provided quite if uh, the quite a lot of information uh to the russian soldiers, all type of information are we talking about. all i can say is that the main purpose of it was to try to minimize the losses among civilians and our own soldiers. yeah, that's a, that's pretty much, uh, you know, good coverage. the entire thing, right. let's, let's switch to a little bit different of the topics because obviously 2 and a half years in ukraine and you being a missionary and helping people out. obviously you have interact with a lot with the locals. and if you remember, like most recently what, what's the move among the regular ukranian civilians for the in regards to the
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entire trash is happening, tragedies that are a good word they they saw the tragedy just as close as anybody could. and mostly the tragedy was happening to them. most of them who left the village over the last period of time before the russians came laugh because they didn't have really any place to live left. that's because of the war. i should say that in the end that's all the fault of the ukrainian government. doesn't matter. who has bomb it was most artillery shell, it was the cleaning government is at fault. did you
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experience from the level population please? some people that's there waiting for russia to come in and stop this entire thing to deliberate them was, was there this feeling of, you know, losing liberation from russia? i think probably before the situation got really hot, that probably everybody there was only making plans about what kind of party they were going to throw when the russians came. okay. i was the same way. i didn't realize how difficult it was going to be to move the trainings out to flush them out. so i probably would have planned a little bit differently. but, but that was the idea is that the russians are going to come and were just party audit. they will be, or there is going to be order about order will be restored. there will be stability of law or something that was missing and you're creating it for more than 30 years
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where he proceeded to buy the ukranian armed forces by you create in special services. just another i send you an e mail came out here to help or how would we proceed by them ever had any interactions with them? yes, i had lots of interactions with them. probably 5050, positive and negative. mm hm. i met with a lot of suspicion, mostly probably because of the way i say probably needs really. yeah. that's there. are you aware of the surface or do you have a star test where it yeah, before i understood what that was about. i said it just like a russian would say, mm hm. and so i met with a lot of suspicion it's fairly uncommon for an american to even come to a village like that much less than live there. and so the,
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it was very common to that for them to have questions about why you're here. because you're on aren't great, right? an armed and without any official sponsor. so they were left to wonder. is he working for the russians? is he an agent for the c i a is he just crazy me? i've never figured it out right? instinctively i, uh there were quite a few of them who, who knew me, they understood that i was not different. just instinctively. mm. by. so that's not enough to go and kill me. so they had to leave me alone. i would you, is it from your communications with the crate in the banners, ellipse soldiers or is anybody from the army?
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could you gauge their mood at this moment in time towards you know, their role in what is happening or you didn't have any directions of that kind of a closer direction just to see what of it. they thinking about this entire thing, close interactions. so over the last 6 months, for example, with the training officers didn't happen. but i did have quite a few encounters with just regular foot soldiers. and in general, i would say that they were beginning to understand that they were just being used. and that it's a losing battle, probably the same question goes for the, you know, regular, ukrainian, the civilians. and so the other thing question for all the goals for the, for the regular civilians as well and to how they to feel towards their own
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ukrainian, the army is there. you know, you because it says support for, for everything that they do. how does feelings approach there are, are they because we hear different things here in russian as well. and we have to, you know, get this information bit by bit, but since you were there and you lived with the civilian ukrainians, what did they think about their army? that was a very common topic of discussion. just about everybody. wanted to tell me how they felt. i think they understood that sooner or later what they told me would make it into public there. right? but the other side of the coin is the fact that it's just one village and they're in a very specific situation. it doesn't necessarily speak for all of ukraine,
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but in general, i would say that they all felt betrayed by their gonna and perhaps it wasn't even a surprise for them that were they were being betrayed. they were just angry that their government was betraying them idea. and doing it in a way that put their own relatives and their like own lives in grave danger. kidnapping their young men to go fight and the fighting the war in a way that put the village in danger on a daily basis. you know of, of the last few years. well, even before the start of the special village operation, i have interviewed will at least half a dozen or $54.00 in mercenaries who were taken prisoner
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in boston. for example, australia, united states, u. k. cro asia, many, many, many different countries in your experience there, have you seen any of these? so for inners while you were you 2 and a half years a new crane. have you seen any of these people with my own 2 eyes. yeah. i haven't seen any okay. but i can say with fair certainty that they were in the village. first, an american, i heard him talking me 1st when he walked by my place. that was in the summer of 2022. and then most recently about august, i think this year there were rumors everywhere in the village about some
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50 to a 100. a lot of americans from south america, from mexico central america were with us in the village and who apparently were very bold in their theory. it didn't even pay attention to the increase in military when they created military. their host would try to stop them from reading civilian homes. and that happens, i'm quite sure that it did. so basically they're, they're all $0.04 and making their own decision as well without considering the whatever you create harvey would say, right. i suppose it's just a matter of how criminal they are, that they are really have no scruples. they're not in their own country. they don't fear any punishment for what they're doing. they're being paid well. and so
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they feel like they have complete immunity. probably to do whatever they want this come from the bounty. right. yeah. typical mercenaries? yeah. yeah. i would say i was, i was going to expand a little bit more of this. uh, but say, you know, obviously you haven't been in touch with them. all right, just trying to gauge the number 4 in mercenaries are within the ranks of the you create an army at the moment. just right. yeah. well can't, we can talk about that. let's, uh, let's, let's talk about your personal opinion. and people have for different reasons for picking up arms for a foreign country. these mercenaries that are fighting for ukraine and say, killing russian soldiers and russian civilians. what is the main one motivation of perhaps so we can talk about the range of motivations for all of
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those people. what drives them to come here and to pick up arms against russians if they're american, i would expect that in most cases, they just believe the propaganda or an american is really not going to be interested in the kind of money that i believe these mercenaries are being paid me, it's not enough to make them risk their lives. you wait for flipping burgers, right. you probably could make more fighting, not being part of the american military. right. so why would you go fighting ukraine? they probably believe that they're the white knights, but they're deceit. good. in the orgy is a powerful, powerful thing. i said that, i mean, it is, i suppose i'm an example of that. well, you know, there's a good side and the bad side. i mean, we'll have 2 answers to go on at some point or another. and uh, you know,
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the end of the day, you know, we judge ourselves whether we did everything. and i would say to them that before you go and fight some or somewhere, look not only at news from your own side, but also from the side that they try to scare you away from. that's a demonize, someone that what they're writing in telegram is from state and himself. the likelihood is that they are state themselves. and what they're trying to scare you away from is the truth. read both. compare and maybe will understand where, where truth is. you know, it's funny, i tell this to my students, so over time as well don't, should there read whatever i write, read everybody in that form your own opinion. ok. and finally, today you,
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i saw a very it's such and touching video, a phone call with your parents or your brother, i believe best. yes. can you tell us the purpose of why that video had to be shown today to the public and russel and then now around the world was dependent very shortly. it's called the dead man's switch. and it's a to me, i suppose tie the hands of those whom i try to put pressure on me by for security. my parents, do you afraid of that? i'm not afraid of it, but i do see a need to try to counteract it. why would you get into an accident if you could put on your seat belt? exactly precaution after that and how did you use both of them? you mentioned the dates. it was a few days ago. and you mentioned data on the,
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on the phone call. just recently, so and before that you haven't spoken to your parents face to face in a long time and out. and i got goosebumps when i was watching that in your reaction, what was into your heart when you finally managed to speak to them, and to tell them like, i'm fine. everything is good. i'm going to smile in my face. what did you feel? i would say was just extreme satisfaction that what we've been waiting for for so long. this finally happened. definitely all of those, all of the sales in my body who knows it, that's my dad and my mom just jumped so it was definitely not the same as seeing them in person. mm hm. but at least by video, you know, my mind has already built come to firmly believe that yes, my parents are in good health. same things happen for them almost as good as being reunited from what i saw from the vehicle. um the you have their full support and
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everything that you to do um were all deep believers in jesus. and he brings us to the understanding of truth. and that truth is the same for them as it is for me. and as long as we all follow our conscience and what we're doing and where could we find disagreement? and finally, one last question probably has to do with the where you see yourself in the near future. you're on the 3333 years old. the moments so your whole life is ahead of you and perhaps you associated your future with russia in some way since you're here already and tell us about this. so what are your thoughts? well, it has
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a lot to do with whether or not awards on this is how the war ends. we have peace and i would go back to doing probably something similar to what i've done in peace time before, which is either farming or building farm equipment for farmers but sense or as raging. most likely, i would like to be involved in it in some way. i probably would like to do my everything i can for the civilians that i left behind in the village and perhaps work with a similar situations or always is putting civilians who have ended up close to the front line in extreme danger. and, and a lot of need and there's probably there is always room for another person to help
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them. how like that for forming poor military. you know that in rush you can get a free chair or foot words in the far east is all you know about that originally again when i was talking about it, but yeah, there was a chance as much land as you want. like america, back in the or the 18th century, going to the or the 19th century is right. i think we're done. thank you very much for the interview. thanks for having me. the the
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