of the, the nature of your offices, you know, so again, my understanding on prime minister and by upon administer as huge experience and the man sure enough to understand that on to sort of get them off of finalization competition. so into between the rest, unblocked and the russian law. and we have been the warranty on time program relation to that. and we have been quite successful so far. and i think we haven't been able to maintain this for the last 2 and a half to 3 years now of to be stopping update c a u k y. and we haven't been able to do a ran a situation where much so complicated. i've been doing the big coffee bar, you know, and in the beginning of the workspace and in my smart, small, starting that global life, you know, the best time you people managing it. and especially immediately after, before we end up being can people at the end of a slow relationship, really the best as i, let's be bratia and all the time. first thing i see no reason as to why we kind of

do it now. all right, just stay with us here on our t international up next to our interview with the american who worked for russia in done best buy from the the daniels. thank you so much for meeting with us today. we are with the we heard that you were in the press conference starts before coming over to the combat zone. you were in poland for a couple of years. as an missionary. can you just explain to us what, what, what that entails? okay. i was a small grateful and polish village where there was a protestant church and i was working with children and summer camps teaching of

english. but of course, with the whole christian theme to everything that was just a during the summer during the rest of the year. while i was there just trying to live like a christian, and to be a good example. and basically what that the missionary is and that to be the missionary is that what problems as you to go to it's across the board or into cream back in february of 2022 in part. but i really should say that probably the biggest motivation was my desire to be in russia if and when world war 3 start as a found out. so just recently turns out that you were to under cover for i don't know what to go exactly. or let's say, let's go with russian intentions, internet's republic for the last 2 years. how did you manage to stay undetected for

such a long time? i have to say praise the lord for the uh, i did do my good due diligence to keep chats and my telegram deleted. keep the cash clean and i took all of those precautions as necessary, but nobody ever checked my phone during that whole time. but i was in the village, i'm very surprised by that everything. everybody's really surprised by that. of the probably the us passport helped a lot. and the fact that i really was helping a lot of people in the village. everybody was happy that i was there. if you needed to get your roof fixed, patched up after some kind of damage from the war. then i was the 1st one who would come and fix your roof or your windows help people with their the gardens. and so everybody was happy that it was there and i was friends with people who

really were waiting for russian to come. and they were in turn, were friends with the local government. so i had good connections and that's the way it happened. he spent the entire 2 years in that village of, of a young man. nothing at all. i was in ukraine for 2 and a half year. yeah. but not the whole time. was there a lot of it a basically the place became or something. it's easy because you got to know all the people that lived in the village and working with them and helping them. i would say that people became dear to me and my animals to me, but not the village itself. the village itself was more like a prison. what do you mean by that? i mean that when you're in prison, you have, you really have no friends. everybody really is with a knife to your back, potentially at least. and the people in charge are ready to kill you. if they find

out that you're not really their friend. that was probably the biggest challenge here, right? not knowing what to expect. and for me, next is it was that one of the biggest challenges you would say mentally, i would say the biggest challenge was trying not to become extremely angry to the point of losing my ability to properly function in life. because of the fact that it was in that, at that distance away from the front line that all of the training artillery was basically firing from my backyard. and in my mind, when arch other green artillery is firing, it means they're killing my friends. and i just had to listen to that, i couldn't do anything about it except get what information i have,

which was most of the time, probably in sufficient to really try to like back. so but knowledge that my friends are dying out there and i can't do anything about it was extremely hard to bear as i knew from the messages that we saw in the media last week, and you were ex factors or evacuated from near the city of the dar and how did you end up there? is somebody help you to evacuate to that place or is that where the village was that said, you weren't residing in houses that happened when i was evacuated? yeah, the front line was actually right through the middle of the village where our left . so as soon as we got out of the village, we basically were in friendly territory. not completely out of danger, but in friendly territory. that was all thanks to the soldiers from the 29th army

russian eastern command. what was the feeling in your heart when you finally felt that you know, you're out of danger? i didn't really understand it immediately. probably mostly because i'd become so accustomed to being in danger. it took me quite a while to really understand that that is the fact that i'm no longer in danger. i would say that the 1st feeling i had when i saw the russian soldiers there in the village, it was you for a very happy to see them to the the time when they came. it was only about a half an hour after i had been sitting in the cellar and i heard ukrainian

soldiers right above my head. and in the summer kitchen where i was staying. and so i was expecting a firefight to flush them out. they laughed on their own, but when the russian soldiers came in, they they called for me. at 1st i wasn't sure because it was possible that the ukrainian soldiers were calling for me. but they had intercepted some ready to come communication and they knew how to call me. so i needed to be sure that the soldiers were actually rushing, not just because they had a white arm band. and because they're speaking russian. great and soldiers could do that just as easily and if they knew who was going to be rescued and they would probably think that kind of an effort to stop the recreation. but uh, when i came up the stairs opened the door

a little bit. the 1st russian soldier that i saw was probably a non i indian from like oceans. mm hm. and so i know that ukraine is don't have asian sold. exactly. so i knew immediately that finally, or i'm free. so what was, uh, so the 1st interaction between you guys, when you, when you realize that, you know, they sold out what didn't actually know that i was american, okay. they just knew that they needed to pick up a valuable package and then pursue and so they came down in the cellar with me and they wanted to hear the whole story. so i, i gave them a short rundown of my motivation. why me from there? how long i've been there who i am and they're in shock. me. i can imagine. um, i'm not sure about so you know, the type of details that we can ask,

but i think you kind of just gave us a sense sofa. you know how this expression was taking place after all, you were indeed like you said in that field, kind of were a very important package because uh you provided quite if uh quite a lot of information uh to the russian soldiers. what type of information are we talking about? all i can say is that the main purpose of it was to try to minimize the losses among civilians and our own soldiers. yeah, that's the, that's pretty much, uh, you know, it covers the entire thing, right. let's, let's switch to a little bit different to the topic because obviously 2 and a half years in ukraine and you being a missionary and helping people out obviously, you know, interested a lot with the locals. if you remember, like most recently what,

what's the mood among the regular ukrainian civilians for the in regards to the entire tragedy that is happening. tragedy is a very good word. they, as they saw the tragedy, justice cost as anybody could. and mostly of the tragedy was happening to them. most of them who left the village over the last period of time before the russians came laugh because they didn't have really any place to live left. that's because of the war. i should say that in the end that's all the fault of the training government. the doesn't matter who is bomb it was most artillery shell, it was the screening government is at fault. did you

experience from the level population please? some people that's there waiting for russia to come in, install this entire thing to, to liberate them. where's, where's their disputing of, you know, little ration from russia? i think probably before the situation got really hot, that probably everybody there was only making plans about what kind of party they were going to throw when the russians came. okay. i was the same way. i didn't realize how difficult it was going to be to move the trainings out to flush them out. i probably would have planned a little bit differently but, but that was the idea because the russians are going to come and fortune party either they will be or there is going to be order of our order will be restored.

there will be stability and law or something that was missing and you're creating it for more than 30 years where you proceeded to buy the ukranian armed forces by you create in special services. just another uh, send me an email, came out here to help or how would we proceed for them ever had any interactions with them? yes, i had lots of interactions with them. i'm probably 5050 positive and negative. mm hm. i met with a lot of suspicion, mostly probably because of the way i say probably needs really. yeah. that's there. are you aware that this or the star test where it? yeah, before i understood what that was about. i said it just like a russian would say, mm hm. and so i met with a lot of suspicion it's fairly uncommon for an american to

even come to a village like that much less than live there. and so they, it was very common to that for them to have questions about why you're here. because you're on aren't great, right? if an armed and without any official sponsor so they were left to wonder. is he working for the russians? is he an agent for the c i a is he just crazy me? i've never figured it out right. instinctively i there were quite a few of them who, who knew me, they understood that i was not different. so just instinctively. but that's not enough to go and kill me. so they have to leave me alone. i would you, is it from your communications with the crate in the banners or

soldiers or if anybody from the army, could you gauge their mood at this moment in time towards you know, their role in what is happening or you didn't have any directions of that kind could be closer to the directions just to see what are they thinking about this entire thing, close interactions. so over the last 6 months, for example, with the training officers didn't happen. but i did have quite a few encounters with just regular foot soldiers. and in general, i would say that they were beginning to understand that they were just being used and that it's a losing battle. probably the same question goes for the, you know, regular, ukrainian, the civilians. and the other thing, question for all the goals for the,

for the regular civilians as well and how they toward a ceiling towards their own ukrainian, the army is there, you know you because the support for, for everything that they do, how this variance approach there are are they because we hear different things here in russia as well, and we have to, you know, get this information bit by bit, but since you were there and you lived with the civilian ukrainians, what does they think about their army? that was a very common topic of discussion just about everybody wanted to tell me how they felt. i think they understood that sooner or later what they told me would make it into public there, right? but the other side of the coin is the fact that it's just one village

and they were in a very specific situation. it doesn't necessarily speak for all of ukraine. but in general, i would say that they all felt betrayed by the government. and perhaps it wasn't even a surprise for them that were they were being betrayed. they were just angry that their government was betraying them idea and doing it in a way that put their own relatives under my own lives in grave danger. a kidnapping. their young men to go fight and fighting the war in a way that put the village in danger on a daily basis. you know of, of the last few years. well, even before the start of the special village operation, i have interviewed will at least half

a dozen or $54.00 in mercenaries who were taken prisoner in boston. for example astray the united states, u. k. cro asia, many, many, many different countries from your experience there, have you seen any of these so foreigners while you were you 2 and a half years are in ukraine. have you seen any of these people with my own 2 eyes. yeah. i haven't seen any. okay. but i can say with fair certainty that they were in the village 1st, an american. i heard him talking me 1st when he walked by my place that was in the summer of 2022. and then most recently about august i think of this year there were rumors everywhere in the village about of

some 50 to a 100. a lot of americans from south america, from, from mexico central america were with us in the village and who apparently were very bold in their fever. didn't even pay attention to the training in military when the grand military, their host would try to stop them from reading civilian homes and then have a meeting. i'm quite sure that it did. so basically, there they're all $0.04 and making their own decisions without considering the whatever you train army would say, right? i suppose it's just a matter of how criminal they are as they are and really have no scruples. they're not in their own country. they don't

fear any punishment for what they're doing are being paid well. and so they feel like they have complete immunity. probably to do whatever they want. this come from the balance a right? yeah. typical mercenaries. unbelievable. yeah, i would say what was going to expand a little bit more of this, but say, you know, obviously you haven't been in touch with them. all right, just trying to gauge the number 4 and mercenary sir within the ranks of the ukraine and army at the moment. just right. yeah, we can, we can talk about that. let's. uh, let's, let's talk about your personal opinion. and people have for different reasons for picking up arms for a foreign country. these mercenaries that are fighting for ukraine and getting a russian soldiers and

a russian civilians. what is the main one motivation of perhaps so we can talk about the range of motivations for all of those people. what drives them to come here and to pick up arms against russians if they're american, i would expect that in most cases, they just believe the propaganda. the american is really not going to be interested in the kind of money that i believe these mercenaries are being paid. mm hm. it's not enough to make them risk their lives. right? we're flipping burgers, right. you probably could make more fighting, not being part of the american military. right. so why would you go fight and ukraine? they probably believe that they're the white knights, but they're defeat in the old use. a powerful for powerful thing so that, i mean it is, i suppose i'm an example of that. well, you know, there's a good side in the bad side. i mean,

we'll have some answers to go on at some point or another. and you know, the end of the day, you know, we judge ourselves whether we did everything. and i would say to them that before you go and fight some or somewhere look not only at news from your own side, but also from the side that they try to scare you away from. that's a demonized someone that what they're writing in telegram is from state and himself. the likelihood is that they are state themselves and what they're trying to scare you away from is the truth. read both. compare and maybe understand where where truth is. you know, it's funny, i tell this to my students, so all the time as well, don't you there? read whatever i write, read everybody in that form your own opinion. ok. and finally today, uh,

i saw a very that's such and such in video a phone call with your parents or your brother, i believe best. yes. can you tell us the purpose of why that video had to be shown to dates of the public and russel and then now around the world? well, depending very shortly, it's called a dead man's switch. it's uh to me, i suppose tie the hands of those whom i tried to put pressure on me by for security . my parents be afraid of that. i'm not afraid of it, but i do see a need to try to counteract it. why would you get into an accident if you could put on your seat belt? exactly precaution after that and um, obviously you use both of you mentioned the days it was

a few days ago and you mentioned date on the, on the phone call just recently. so and before that you haven't spoken to your parents face to face in a long time and out. and i got goosebumps when i was watching that and your reaction, what was into your heart when you finally managed to speak to them, and to tell them like, i'm fine. everything is good. i'm going to smile in my face. what did you feel? i would say was just extreme satisfaction that what we've been waiting for for so long. this finally happened. definitely all of those. all of the cells in my body who knows that that's my dad and my mom just jumped so it was definitely not the same as seeing them in person. mm hm. but at least by video, you know, my mind has already been come to firmly believe that. yes, my parents are in good health. same things happen for them almost as good as being

reunited from what i saw from the vehicle. um the you have their full support and everything that you do. i do and we're all deep believers in jesus. and he brings us to the understanding of truth. and that truth is the same for them as it is for me. and as long as we all follow our conscience and what we're doing, then where could we find disagreement? and uh, finally, one last question probably has to do with the where you see yourself in the near future. you're on the 3233 years old at the moment so, so your whole life is ahead of you and perhaps you associated your future with russia in some way since you're here already. can you

tell us about this? so what are your thoughts? well, it has a lot to do with whether or not a words on a, if the war ends and we have peace and i would go back to doing probably something similar to what i've done and piece time before which is either farming or building farm equipment for farmers but cents or as raging, most likely i would like to be involved in it in some way. i probably would like to do my everything i can for the civilians that i left behind in the village and perhaps work with a, a similar situations or always is putting civilians who have ended up close to the front line in extreme danger and,

and a lot of need and there's probably there is always room for another person to help them. how like that for forming or involuntary. 2 ways either, you know that in russia you can get a free share of where in the parties as well. you know about that originally again when i was talking about it. but yeah, there's a chance as much land as you want. it's like america back in the or the 18th century going to new york. so the 19th century is right. i think we're done. thank you. very much for the interview. thanks for having me. the. the

if you think about russia, what does your mind picture the world landscapes open up before your eyes? the last one does, can you imagine the, the discounts dodge the journey, the value ready to come along? the stuff was a 2 story. so i'm

a shift towards the picture such as you're done with the machine. should the vehicle, is it the economic model, have new with the different products come and see if it doesn't figured. definitely interesting. so with the concept, even though it is a new month's bill and there's a company in some village developing bio chemical weapons inside you guys got to watch the news. well, i'm assuming she'd you know wife when she booked the white glove service to the customer. but he's because of the sudden the hello and welcome to the cross stuff bullhorn. here we discussed some real in

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