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people will have to live in the country, found so many, almost made up obstacles to vote inside the country without the diaspora. people said no, in the referendum, 56 percent to 44 percent. we sold this data around midnight. then they started counting diasporas. we were told that around 250000 people voted, no one knows whether they were there or not. because we had our own representatives at each polling station. at times when these polling stations were empty, we saw a fictitious increase in turn out at foreign paulding stations on the central election committee website. so that's the overall picture here. the west is heavily endorsing a sun do well, russia is taking the blame for it and people are almost stripped off the rise to essentially vote yet. this is all part of the what they call democracy. yeah.
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democracy, right. i'm in the shower. thank you. all right, well that is going to do it for me for now, but just stay with us. my colleague union o'neill is in next in about half an hour with more news by the the welcome to cross dive. bullhorn is where all things are considered on pure level. the moment of truth has arrived. what will be the outcome of the us presidential election? well, either side, except the result and what are the form policy implications across i think these issues and more i'm joined by my guess, georgia, samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the goggles,
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which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have to meet the bobbies. he is deputy for an editor. it comes to most guy a problem, the daily or a gentleman cross that girls in effect, that means can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate it. all right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. well, we're down to the wire main reflections on this campaign. it was kind of whimsical . queen g. i'm a good dose of humor. i must admit, i'm only on one side. the liberals are not funny anymore. they can't last night, certainly can't laugh at themselves. but, you know, in in toto george, it was a campaign by the leads most of the leads against one man. it wasn't democrats versus republicans. that was about one man. again. we saw and this is the 3rd election we've had about one man and we're down to the wire and it looks like the trump has some wind to in his sales. we'll see. so certainly comfortable harris
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turned out to be a complete dud. but when you have institutional power behind you, that can be enough. george, a good agree with that. be that? um, because this is, this is indeed the 3rd consecutive election in which the democrats, the media, the political establishment that secured this state. everybody just piled on to attack donald trump and to seek to do whatever it can't and it's power to prevent him from becoming president's own work and women. the in the a in 2016 was complete. absolutely disgraceful hoax. russia gate folks, but which no one has paid any prize, then we have in 2020 the eps of the cover up of the home to buy a new laptop which would have been damaging to the bike and campaign. and now we have the survey. i get leave to attempt to present him as the reincarnation of idol
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template is a person who we americans have being familiar with. when was 50 years. uh, you know, a very popular uh, reality tv shows the uh, real estate mobile growth in gambling. uh, mobile, whatever. suddenly he turns out to be at all tape low, so then whatever they can in the house. but the 2 things that one would have to keep in mind as we go into the election night, which is i think that clearly the polls are indicating the trump is doing a lot better than he was doing in 2016 or 2020. i mean by glenn. he was behind the full of the goals and the national goals and the battle ground because he was behind everyone. he has never been ahead. here he seems to be at the very least, even, or the, even the head of the combo, the higher is that would indicate that he, that liberally, that he's doing a lot better. and even in those previous selections, they were very close. when he won one closely, he then when the other one was
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a very close, but this time be, you know, you'll see it's even and so they would suggest that he's going to win this one quite comfortably. now the thing to keep in mind is that there is no way that the 10 with credits, it's a political security style bedroom is going to allow him to do it. i mean, we just know there's that they've got to do whatever they can to prevent this from happening. you know, it's the damage george and i have an expensive convers of extensive conversations on this. and i've been basically got it come to the conclusion. it doesn't really matter who wins on tuesday or thursday, or saturday, or next month, depending on how the ballots are counted. but it's good to be the reaction to the outcome. and i think that's what is on the minds of a lot of people because they, you know, we, it wasn't political parties, it was tribes, this is tribal, now this is tribal warfare and it's all good. it kicked into gear, housed as
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a result, because as like i said in my introduction, i will the other side accept the outcome. go ahead. do me a arms will do right down the i will go over the long the science gear, you know, or was, and you'll stickers, the to part yes, maybe miles apart. they don't want because it, but they both have better deals. i don't think if the other side will it will be the very end of both. this is the, the, it's amazing. you know, the, the full or you zation of society. why do you to type them? so why explanation is they have uh valid felipe or folks s like paul uh, uh that i do. what would you know the campbell surround getting terry's and by then most of the european politicians, ultra liberals own lost us ingredient driver seat encouraging conflicts that's drive. you know, a lot of people in the mind. yes. 1000 says that basically pod yes i gauge and so
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much like each other in the, in the west of that come to that, the conservative strong labor you do in the, in the, in region for example, i bought uh some co op liberals managed to create the whole thing out of nothing. you know cool in russia, ukraine tear the bowl of the person that h or monday or in the 90s. it was the west which could be the which support to the extremes nationally as the new queen. so we need to buy the, the, it became a letter of life from there. you know, people like, you know, they charl. uh, all these issue the same way in the united states. okay. to the 1970 is about these from sexual spend down the well there will they, you call them these people just where they're, you know, i know you think you'd be sure people are ready to queue in charlotte because of
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that issue. so uh these uh, these, uh, uh, the author liberals the, uh, the blinds of the walls in the quote. and we were in europe and the former soviet union. and it finally came to the states also. so i redid that neither side will accept the results of the selection. and you're absolutely right. the real game will stop after the ellipse. lot, lot during the day that to you know, georgia, the, the, the, you know, we could of the, under the post mortem la beasley include but where are the inflection points and i suppose we can point to a number of them. but the, the bible, garbage comments and really kind of the ascent, sums up one side looks at the other. i may have missed it, but i don't see the right using that kind of language. that doesn't mean they don't use course language. it doesn't mean they don't use offensive language, but just calling mean garbage. is it pretty well universally understood word. ok
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and nobody wants to be it. all right. and i think that that kind of sums it up, and it is a kind of a prelude to call the the election is going to be received once the ballots have been counted. a good. i think that's right. it's been done. i think this goes back really, why does this the trump, the trump campaign arouse so much rage and so much hatred and fury? and i think it does go back to the question of the leads. really have been afraid for quite a long time of popular and popular anger over the way the economy has been handled . i mean, this will the 1000 age crash, which does a game. there's been no real reckoning us. so we get on how that came about them, the people pay the price for it. so we've had the, you know, this mass migration and the for risk take effect, but this has have, once the site is throughout the west, who did this, why was this done?
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why was no one ever really informed about this? um and then now we have these was and it goes to the, the industrialization of these ongoing things. and then how the leads respond to this popular and go remember back obama. elizabeth, remember that he was a nobody that in 2008, he starts talking about people clinging to the guns and the bibles. and he was lucky of those that he was up against this nightmare creature. and john became, and then it goes with hillary clinton with a, you know, tall who is trump? support is uh you don't belong to the boss, get the floor of those. and now we have bite and talking about the garbage. and i think that it does reflect the leads view. oh really? oh oh, these are the masses, you know, that they get to close it who know who, who is a, why does a complaint and they're, you know, we, we know much better than they do. what needs to be done? and i do think that that's really why it, what, whatever comes in office trunk does pose a threat to uh,
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to the stablish. well that you have a name. what do you do with that? i think they move into a sense ability because i agree with everything you're saying, but because the middle class has been essentially decimated, we have and right of thorn wars again. but they would rather talk about people being garbage and deplorable. it doesn't talk about the court issues. i mean they're, they're, it's, it's fighting over virtue signaling. okay. i mean, i think that's why a lot of people are buried in becoming more more dissolution, particularly minorities in the democratic party. but have you done for me lately? you know, and this goes to the method, the issue that you often bring up on this program is it's very high. be a logical, it's really to can. it's the demand to control a narrative, but not necessarily outcomes for average people. a lot of. so the right, the all kinds wherever is going to be bad. uh, well the reason of which george hasn't mentioned there is no wreckage. i mean,
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uh these people use us or what the biology is. you know that, that we get uh when the, uh, west mesquite size all were, and actually we say what about what, what's happening in low door where you basically saw other west directly the syrians, the that's what about uh, the fact that the my, the so called dilution was actually available at the end of the list support that uh by the direct presence of us officials and your be in the future. thank you. you know, imagine you would have pro, just much us in washington and some of them roll from the ground and with tom there, you know. uh well someone throws the floor in the street. that's what kind of been a huge scandal about the americans allow this to themselves. so what it says there is no reckoning since there is always these. let's move on to you with this problem . you know, the mouse is deal uh you solutions and left,
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left alone and the poor i zation is based out what you just described. you know, the 2 sides, one in each of the garbage, huge and all sides, all kinds of abuse of language. and what the, what is barry wice, so is the really table, scary things. i've taken a small book during the last 2 months to assist you nation attempts against the a lot of the candidates for president by the weight. so uh you have basically, uh, a total trade you electro system. uh, you have things that would have triggered the revolution just a few years ago. no, this is all except the, this is a, you know, this less one that you is, you have to prevail. and that's what is scary because uh, i mean look, if car is comes to fall. what is the chance or well, in that ukraine you quoted,
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and the great new offers will land was the west stop supporting the dictatorship with you. the jobs is almost 0 because the 1st question to harris. if she accepts some part of the deal with russia would be what have you been doing during the last 2 in default years? where did the almost $200.00 premium, right? the, you know, we're going to continue talking about foreign policy and when we mature, hire gentleman what i'm going to jump in this. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real new stay with our team. the, by the middle of the 20th century, the portuguese colonial empire was in an acute crisis. a particularly 10 situation had developed in mozambique the people of this country were put in a humiliating position, income inequality ramp,
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and illiteracy. this respect by the portuguese for the local traditions led to a mass unrest. in 1964, the liberation front of mozambique for a limo began its armed struggle for freedom. the regular army was not easy to resist, but that guerrillas inflicted considerable damage on the invaders through the fighters against the colonial regime were supported by the soviet union and china. whereas the united states and great. but it took the side of the invaders, the board to gaze responded to the guerrillas, attacks with cruel counter insurgency. however, freely most 10 year courageous struggle was a success after the over throw the fascist regime. in portugal, in 1974, the new authorities surrendered a year later, lisbon fully recognized the independence of mozambie. lots of victory had been gained at a high price during the war,
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mozambique had lost tens of thousands of and sons and daughters the. the welcome back. across the bullhorn design, peter a little bell here were discussing some real news. all right, i'm going to go back to georgia, daemon, hardy. touch the planning. let's talk about foreign policy. this is a bit of a quandary here because you know, we have a centrally is cold war, 2 point oh, focused against russian. we have a proxy war that started under the obama administration, where biden was vice president. trump said his bite his role as well. are mainly ukrainian regime and then we have biden with full blown proxy, more of which has gotten extremely dangerous. no, there are ha beasley and indications that there is more fatigue for the donor class in the west and within ukraine. ha beasley. the casualty rate is kind of running
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out of min material in my hand, and by all accounts, even a friendly media towards the lives with the landscaping, shame, low morale. but what does that mean when, if trouble comes in or hair is comes and explain to me what could be the difference or what new or is that just really part of the campaign as well? i think because it's, um, harris will almost certainly pursue a divide move all this. i think she will continue of funding this war. i don't think she has any real ideas. i think she will just simply accept that kind of foreign policy establishment military establishment. once you've, you, she might even escalate, you might even sign off on things of bite and it seemed hesitant to sign off on, such as lifting or restrictions on the use of long range missiles on russian territory. trump is, i think the more interesting case because, you know, if we go back to what he really believes, i mean,
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in order to go back date of the back it into a 2000 when he 1st contemplated running for president. he is always been a games of conflict with russia this, you know, although some of the beginning he saw that this was a nato, was a real waste of money and a waste of time for the united states. 2016. he was clearly identified by the trying that it is a real problem. it makes a lot of sense for us to wage war against russia, even a proxy war against russia. when china, it will be the major beneficiary. and you, you'll have to think that that's what he's going to come in with. he's gonna, if he wants to endless war, because china has to be the focus of america. so it concerns? nope, that's a, it's a different questions as to whether he be able to pull this off. but i think that's going to be his, his initial goal, the, to bring this war to a as a speedy and as possible. if however, he fails to do that,
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then i can see him going the other way, which is the mass of escalation. so it's very unpredictable, but at least with trump, there is a slight hope that he's going to just they take the bull by. i don't want to just say right, elizabeth, let me just do whatever is necessary to bring this through it. open the media. the conclusion is, it's interesting that you mentioned china because if you go even from pre politics, was all part b on china a whole of the time. i mean, it was really one of the 1st major public figures not not, not a political figure, but a public figure to um, to uh, talk about that the money. and there was a recent interview. i think it was in the last new cycle where a trump lamented how close russia in china is gotten and then it goes with george just said that he, that's, that's the, that's the price for him. and that is may be the origin 0. we want it wouldn't, it would be good to get along with russia and from 2016. unfortunately,
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we have russia gate in between. i think it's almost an impossibility that he can go down the truck. i mean there's so many avenue is closed off for actually both candidates when it comes to the national security state. fema. well indeed, the law awhile is pro. is she peas clear? it's wrong, but you're absolutely right. you, you know, george was absolutely right. what would she oh, okay, why that's the want to uh, does she pretend to want to have that quote like that between your brand and russia in order to call since they don't china. so took this thought a lot at hybrid. what with china? well, we have what i want to know line is brushing piece even if it's the that's dredge, you know, i think this car is, comes to the follow up. she can log a result of the ukraine. busy was she is, i'm sorry, she's a corporate, you know,
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she was bought at least fully a bought all by items for you see which led to the school. and which is that somebody to be supported for more than 2 years. so she could not turn it back on with these rules. again, the united states during the looks that entered into a corner united states, the north and by east. what's happened with these, uh, uh, with these page or their whole full book. you may need to because is the 1st use of household devices. so with that process it's, it's something like that, you know, where pulse or chemical weapons suddenly every long becomes a more of a, you know, a while or a boat to, to is a saw the table around the globe. because now we see that these beats can be used that gauge fuel. let's again, it's very much right then, but welcome to didn't bother you. the other states as a, you know, they already, they already, uh, invented, truly,
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truly mates about you agree that they connected to ukraine to modules they, if you want idea a logical investment to leave it so. so uh, basically the host did use the radio with the both the ukraine and it is what it is called the sun cost fallacy. that's exactly are exactly right. you know, charge on the margins and, but of course right now in american politics, it be with the do walk only party do awfully margins matter a lot. and for some it's really quite interesting. we look at pennsylvania and michigan, wisconsin, minnesota, get aside is on the ballot for her and many muslims here and there are the americans who knows that could flip the whole script. i mean, the more you look at it, it least potentially it's there. and that will have implications possibly. and then maybe you have to hope guys last, then you will see when genocide is on the ballot,
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you better pay attention to the electric. i'm, i'm looking, you might have future trump administration. i may be, you know, hollowing in the woods here, but we'll find out if it makes a difference. george. so i think that's right. i mean, is they, would we make these calculations for to night? it's looking like, um, trump will carry the sun belt states. so it's all going to be down to the 3 blue wall states, the great lakes that it's michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. the calculation is if tropics of one of them, the trunk is president. if harris wenzel a 3, then have is as present. now all the 3 left focusing very much on pennsylvania, but michigan could be the guess the sleep. but that because it's that this is very significant. there's a very significant, most of them, an arab american population in michigan that were ready made their feelings, blame the very upset about the the bite and the ministration. now,
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the democrats have been saying that, oh, well, but trump would be was that's always the go to argument. oh yeah. yeah. well, you may know of like what vide mattress did, but trump would be was. but that's not a convincing argument, because as a to trump was, it was, you know, we have for years or trump and we didn't have anything like this in the churches. it's like saying, you know, this person is committed murder, but this, this guy might commit murder. i mean, i was, yeah, i'm sorry. i mean, by till 2 people, not just one person you'd like deal to that exact of, that's the argument. and it's still a very convincing argument, and that's why the, you know, number of these, um that are, yeah, mostly men, arab leaders have come out to, in support of trump. and they remain will be a game, a very rational calculation. the come could just come in and bring this to, and that's really, it doesn't really need, like, you know, who is a,
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a pack and zion is money is not running around with got off the bill and there's only a guy who is down. he doesn't lead murray models of name or either he's, he's involved. so he might come in and say, you know, it's already going to be, he doesn't have any particular attachment to israel. i mean it's, it's was always a kind of transactional thing. you need the money because it's been very short of money compared to the demographics. so once is involved, it's quite possible that he might rethink this and think about his historic legacy is the bringing piece to the movies because he's never about never the fact that brock obama gotten a nobel peace prize and he didn't. okay, let me go demo um, you can talk about american presidential politics. it with a for the 3rd cycle now without talking about russia. so when he's rushing meddling in this time around in the election, maybe it's obvious here of course, of joking. but, you know, i know goes, you know, russia see this election,
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do they have a dog in this fight or every single present? it is the same when it comes to american foreign policy towards russia. oh, i think a is a part of that huge, huge, disappointing development that we have seen. so i think taking ages. so there was really huge jobs to uh, resolve the conflict between russia and do that to states russia and you were there was a lot of goodwill on the sign of raw sheets. amazing pro brush people despise the table. probably because we were isolated from the west of media when you know the folks cool it take a trip that exist united states and europe and even then use the east in your against us. uh, we would be would have driven over back the world. and the in the light, yes. any, the installs, it seemed to russians that the v is actually a re, is you know,
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what it was a very real is what is pretty decent when she helped the night that stage, you know, gave us the 1000 a month after the $91130.00 is that there's 4 quotes and it looks like very, very, really school support them. now if we support them and you know, guess what, they're going to see. well, hold on. people that they have much was a name is the last, you know, look at these a username is better is so what they did to washington, a 2 dogs. and what was amazing was that they americans, at least they're making the lead. give them no just that, you know, they, they, they, chris, it, they, the portal if you base something, did you with the same or see it. disregarding they were wanting to know the single russia. it could be that the thermostat could do, but this is not a single sir about the security people, what's their assets and serves as much great. the security against the congress, which were all really connected to the terrace. but actually inside the united states, several of these congress out of beef drew us l likes. so uh well,
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little by little losing patients by the way, through becoming more and more disappointed. but there are still russians who for some kind of change as a link who is a diplomatic solution? well, the ukraine impulse, that is there is what the majority of already set it on this program hope dies last . okay, right. this is our last program before the presidential election. i'm sure, next time the 3 of us be will be talking about the implications if they've are, if, if they're not having stop counting ballots. but that is in 2 weeks time, we will see. all right, gentlemen, i'm going to take my guessing budapest ads in moscow. and of course the, what i think our viewers for watching and see in our to see you next them. and remember across the groups the
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stuff for the summer shift for the opportunities such as your daughter bishop most economical way to model having do with these kinds of what it means. different experiments you've used doesn't figured out say ok, even though is the new much so that i'm going to commit the old server to compliance. i'm bill gage goes up developing bio chemical weapons inside of the guns. good to watch the news. well, i'm assuming should, you know, wasn't cheap, but the reason why the white glove service cost is because of the same as your
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state. the former minister and republican from pennsylvania. you may not think come over here since when canada, you know what? she is in black. i'm gay and i voting for donald trump. forward political lines as us election day. i just close or we explore how long time party loyalists are helping the fence and it shifting salyers across america's political landscape . also coming up for us just opposite the moslems. what he sees is washington's unique puller view of the world civic. that's the reason the global side has become a stronger force with most votes of content in the mold, opening presidential election, the incumbent leader heads the rates thanks to the goats passed by x pops up through.

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