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and this is also going to find it very difficult to supply you through with all the weapons with which israel acted. you can continue with its general site. so it's a, it's a very tricky situation. and we'll have to wait and see how the united states a new administration is going to basically behave. would you got to that? well, we appreciate your, your view on this issue. thanks for coming in the program. political science scholar from boston university in the turkish capital, a professor how some who know that was my pleasure. thank you. not regardless of who comes out on top in the us presidential election will either side accept the results and to even be considering that as a possibility. what does it say about the state of the world's most powerful democracy? crosstalk debates next or the
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the welcome to cross dog bull horns were all things are considered on to your level. the moment of truth has arrived. what will be the outcome of the us presidential election? well, either side, except the result. and what are the form policy implications across sucking these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, georgia, samuel, we in budapest, he's the pod cast where the goggles, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow, we have to meet the bobbies. he is deputy for an editor. it comes to most guy a problem, the daily or a gentleman cross. that girl is in effect. that means can jump any time you want and i would appreciate it. all right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. well, we're down to the wire and mine reflections on this campaign. it was kind of
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whimsical. queen g. i'm a good dose of humor. i must admit, i'm only on one side. the liberals are not funny anymore. they can't last night. certainly can't laugh at themselves. but, you know, in in toto george, it was a campaign by the leads. most of the leads against one man. it wasn't democrats versus republicans. that was about one man. again, we saw in this is the 3rd election. we've had about one man and we're down to the wire. it looks like the trump has some wind to in his sails. we'll see. so certainly comfortable harris turned out to be a complete doug. but when you have institutional power behind you, that can be enough. george, a good agree will it be that um, because this is, this is indeed the 3rd consecutive election in which the democrats,
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the media, the political establishment that secured this state. everybody just piled on to attack donald trump and to seek to do whatever he can't. and it's pile up to prevent him from becoming president. so we're women. the in the a in 2016 was complete. absolutely disgraceful hoax. russia gate folks, but which no one has paid any prize. then we have in 2020 the eps of the cover up of the home to buy a laptop which would have been damaging to the bike and campaign. and now we have the survey, i guess at least the attempt to present him as the reincarnation of idol template is a person who we americans have been familiar with when was 50 years. uh, you know, a very popular uh, reality tv shows the, uh, real estate mobile growth in gambling, uh, mobile, whatever. so it makes the jones out to be at all templates so that whatever they
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can in the house. so the 2 things that would have to keep in mind as we go into the election night, which is i think that clearly the polls are indicating the trump is doing a lot better than he was doing in 2016 or 2020. i mean by glenn. he was behind the full of the goals and the national goals. and the bible grapples he was behind everywhere. he has never been a head here. he seems to be at the very least, the even, or the, even the head of the combo, the higher is that would indicate that he, that literally, that he's doing a lot better. and even in those previous selections, they were very close. when he won one closely, he then when the other one was a very close, but this time the, you know, you speak it to you and so they would suggest this, he's going to win this one quite comfortably. now the thing to keep in mind is that there is no way that the 10 with crowds hit the political security style bedroom is
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going to allow him to do it. i mean, we just know there's that they've got to do whatever they can to prevent this from happening. you know, it's a game, a judge and i have an expensive convers of extensive conversations on this. and i've been a, basically, god come to the conclusion. it doesn't really matter who wins on tuesday or thursday, or saturday, or next month, depending on how the ballots are counted. but it's good to be the reaction to the outcome. and i think that's what is on the minds of a lot of people because they, you know, we, it wasn't political parties, it was tribes, this is tribal, now this is tribal warfare and it's all good. it kicked into gear housed as a result, because as like i said in my introduction, i will the other side accept the outcome. go ahead. do me now. you're absolutely right down the i will go the longer times, you know, you know, what was the news papers?
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the 2 part yes, may be miles apart. they don't want because it, but they both have better deals. i don't think if the other side will it will be the very end of both. this is the, the, it's amazing and you know, the, the full or you zation of society. why do you to type them? so why explanation is the uh, the labor folks s like paul uh, uh that i do. what would you know the campbell surround getting terry's and by then, most of the european publications ultra liberal so own lost us in greek and control receipt in craig and conflicts that strife. you know, a lot of people in the mind. yes. thousands says that basically pod yes i gauge and so much like each other in the, in the west of the come to the conservative, strong labor you do in the, in the in region. for example, i bought uh some co op liberals managed to create the whole thing out of nothing.
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you know, cool in russia and the ukraine tear both the 1st and then it will bundle rate. in the 9th, it was the west, which could be the which support the, the extreme is nationally as the new queen. so we need to buy the, the, it became a letter of life from there. you know, people like, you know, they show a, all these issue in the same way in the united states. okay? so in the, in the 19 seventy's about these, from sexual spend down the, well, there was a, you call them, these people just where they're, you know, i know it's a huge issue. you know, people are ready to queue in charlotte because of that issue. so uh these uh, these, uh, uh, the author, liberals the, uh, the blinds or the walls in the quote a we were in europe and the former soviet union. and it finally came to the states also. so i redid that neither side we with so the results of the selection and
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you're absolutely right. the real game will stop after the lot, lot during the day that to you know, georgia, the, the lived there, you know, we could of the, under the post mortem o ha. beasley include, but we're the inflection points. and i suppose we can point to a number of them, but the, the bike will garbage comments and really kinds assemble sums up. one side looks at the other. i may have missed it, but i don't see the right using that kind of language. that doesn't mean they don't use course language, it doesn't mean they don't use offensive language, but just calling mean garbage. is it pretty well universally understood word. ok and nobody wants to be it. all right. and i think that that kind of sums it up and, and it is a kind of by preload to whole week of the election is going to be received. once the ballads have been counted, a good i think that's right. it's been done. i think this goes back to really,
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why does this the trump, the trump campaign arouse so much rage and so much hatred and fury? and i think it does go back to the question of it leads. really have been afraid for quite a long time of popular and popular anger over the way the economy has been handled . i mean, there's no live but there 1008 crash. which does a game. there's been no real reckoning as though you know how that came about them . the people pay the price for it. so we've had the, you know, this mass migration and the for risk take effect. but this has have one societies throughout the west. who did this, why was this done? why was no one ever really informed about this? um and then now we have these was, and it goes to the, the industrialization of these ongoing things. and then how the leads respond to this popular ango? remember barrack obama, elizabeth, remember that he was a nobody that in 2008,
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he starts talking about people clinging to the guns and the bibles. and he was lucky of those that he was up against this nightmare creature. and john became, and then it goes with hillary clinton with a, you know, tall who is trump support as you don't belong to the boss, get the deplorable. and now we have bite and talking about the garbage. and i think that it does reflect the leads view. oh, they go over the, the mass is you know, that they get to close it who know who, who is a, why does a complaint and then you know, we, we know much better than they do what needs to be done. and i do think that that's really why what whatever comes in office trunk does pose a threat to uh, to the stablish. well that you have a name. what do you do with that? i think that means it's a sense ability because i agree with everything you're saying, but because the middle class has been essentially decimated, we have and right looks for an horse again. but they would rather talk about people
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being garbage and deplorable. it doesn't talk about the court issues. i mean they're, they're, it's, it's fighting over virtue signaling. okay. i mean, i think that's why a lot of people are buried in becoming more more dissolution, particularly minorities in the democratic party. what have you done for me lately? you know, and this goes to the deem it to the issue that you often bring up on this program is it's very high, be a logical, it's really to can. it's the demand to control a narrative, but not necessarily outcomes for average people to your so the right the, the all kinds wherever is going to be bad. uh, well the reason which george hasn't mentioned there is no wreckage. i mean, uh these people use us or what the biology is. you know that the, we get around the west, most bridges size our and actually we say what about what, what's happening in mo, door where you're basically still on the west,
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directly the serious, the, that's what about, uh, the fact that the my, the so called really lucian was actually available at the end of the list was that uh by the direct presence of us officials and your be in officials think, you know, imagine you would have pro just much us in washington and someone role from the crammed in with tom. there, you know, uh well someone thrilled before in the street that would have been a huge scandal about the americans allow this to themselves. uh so uh, it seems there is no reckoning. seems there is always these. let's move on a, did you with this program? you know, uh, the mouse is deal uh you solutions and left, left alone. uh, and the poor i zation is based out what you just described. you know, the 2 sides wondering each of the garbage, huge and all sides. ok, as of the abusive language. and what the, what is barry wice?
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so is the really tables, scary things. i've taken a small look during the last 2 months to assist you. nation attempts against a lot of the candidates for president by the way, uh, you have basically a total of lead you electro system. uh, you have things that have triggered the revolution just a few years ago. now this is all except the, this is a, you know, this less one that you at the, as you have prevailed. and that's what is scary before was uh uh i'm is look if car is comes to fall, what is the chance or was it that your brand new alternate? and then you can also use will land was the west stop supporting the dictatorship with give the jobs is almost 0 because the 1st question to harris, if she accept somebody to deal with russia would be what have you been doing during they'll ask you into a couple years, where did the oldest 200 premium,
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right. the know, we're going to continue talking about foreign policy and when we mature by a gentleman who i'm going to jump in this, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real new stay with our to the r c t r t, formerly known as russia today, trying to influence the presidential election in november. the extraordinary new efforts to once again infiltrate our election can undermine democracy. 2 will 5 to see, to direct this information in propaganda here, to sort of divide america r t has moved beyond functioning fact or. okay, then do you want to know who i pick was this time? and make sure you turn in for all the special coverage of the us presidential election. the and take a fresh look around this life kaleidoscopic isn't just
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a shifted reality distortion by power to division with no real opinions. fixtures, design to simplify will confuse really once a better wills, and is it just as a chosen few fractured images presented as bus? can you see through their illusion going underground again? the welcome back. across the bullhorn side. peter a little here. we're discussing some we'll news. all right, so i'm going to go back to georgia, daemon, hardy, touched upon. and let's talk about foreign policy. this is a bit of a quandary here because, you know, we have a centrally as cold war 2 point oh, focused against russian. we have a proxy war that started under the obama administration. we're biden was vice
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president of a trunk paid his bite. his role as well are mainly ukrainian regime and then we have biden with full blown proxy, more of which has gotten extremely dangerous. now they're obviously in the indications that there is more fatigue for the donor class in the west and within ukraine. ha beasley, the casualty rate is kind of running out of min, material and left hand and by all accounts, even a friendly media towards the village with the landscaping, low morale. but what does that mean when, if trouble comes in or hair is comes and explain to me what could be the difference or whitney or is it just really part of the campaign or? well i think that it's, um, harris will almost certainly pursue the divide impala. so i think she will continue of funding this war. i don't think she has any real ideas. i think she will just
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simply accept that kind of foreign policy establishment military establishment. the point of view is you might even escalate, you might even sign off on things of bite and it seemed hesitant to sign off on, such as lifting or restrictions on the use of long range missiles on russian, tara trip. trump is, i think, a more interesting case because, you know, if we go back to what he really believes, i mean, in order to go back date of the back it into a 2000 when he 1st contemplated running for president t as boys be like games of conflict with russia this, you know, although some of the beginning he saw that this was a nato, was a real waste of money and a waste of time for the united states. 2016. he was clearly identified the trying that it is a real problem. it makes a lot of sense for us to wage war against russia, even a proxy war against russia. when china, it will be the major beneficiary. and you,
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you'll have to think that that's what he's going to come in with. he's gonna, if he wants to endless war, because china has to be the focus of america. so it concerns? nope. that's a, it's a different questions as to whether he be able to pull this off. but i think that's going to be his, his initial goal, the, to bring this war to a, as a speedy and as possible. if however he fails to do that, then i can see him going the other way, which is the mass of escalation. so it's very unpredictable, but at least with trump, there is a slight hope that is going to just they take the bull by. i don't want to just say right click, but let me just do whatever is necessary to bring this through it. open the media, the conclusion. it's interesting that you mentioned china, because if you go even from pre politics, was well harpy or china a whole of the time. i mean, it was really one of the 1st major public figures. not, not, not
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a political figure, but a public figure to um, to uh, talk about that the money. and there was a recent interview. i think it was the last new cycle where a trump lamented how close russia in china is gotten. and that goes with george just said that he, that's, that's the, that's the price for him. and that is, may be the origin 0. we want it would, it would be good to get along with russia from 2016. unfortunately we have russia gate in between i think it's almost an impossibility that he can go down the track . i mean there's so many avenue is closed off for actually both candidates when it comes to the national security state. fema. well indeed, the law awhile is pro, is she peas clear? it's wrong, but you're absolutely right. you, you know, george was absolutely right. what would she? oh, okay. why that's the want to, uh, does she pretends to want to have the quote like this uh, between your brand and russia in order to call since they don't china. so took this
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thought a lot at hybrid. what with china? well, we have what i want to know mind is bro wishing piece even if it's the let's dredge, you know, i think the, the power is comes before she can law the result of the ukraine. busy was she is, i'm sorry, she's a corporate, you know, she was bought at least fully apart or buy items for you see which led to the school and which invested by to be supported for more than 2 years. so she could not turn it back on with these ro, the okay, we're just interrupting because the picture behind me show the russian president loved him or not about the meeting with the foreign minister of north korea here in law school. let's take a listen to see what we can here. now. the
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korea, the d p r k, meeting with lot of mirth put in in moscow earlier. and the to foreign ministers. all the countries meant to discuss that by law pro, ties out of course, at what has been happening in terms of that and military agreement, which has led to and many headlines into wes what it means between moscow and p on young at going forward. and in the ukrainian conflict as well. okay. when more comes at from lots, we will delve into it and make sure the main use lines. there's always a few at when the top officials meet in most go from those countries. but for now, i'll see you back at the top. okay, and let's move on to the news that we're across at today. so at because we are now less than 24 hours away at from the us presidential
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election. there's a lot of excitement building a lot of anticipation who is going to take over the reins in the white house. the oval office. this is our t international, and this is our coverage of that christian photo. the what today is indeed all square in the race for the white house, according to the latest us nationwide pool at find, donald trump on capital harness each of 49 percent support among likely voters in the final stretch of the campaign. trump claim the system is ranked towards the lease in washington, while his opponent insists that's just the republicans latest strategy to prompt attention. all they do is think about how they can cheat. there's only one reason
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you don't want folder id. there's only one reason and that's to cheat. so we got all those crap going on with the press, with the fake stuff and fake falls. and then it gives you a big conspiracy theorist whose records varies. they want to lock you up, they want to put you in jail, the ones that should be locked up by the ones that sheet on these horrible elections that we go through. and i've got i would ask, in particular, people who have not yet voted to not fall for his tactic, which i think includes, i'm suggesting to people that if they vote their vote won't matter. suggesting to people that somehow the integrity of our voting system is not intact so that they don't vote swelling among the world. when levin saw finger pointing that's been going on, it's also easy to overlook the real issues that actually matter to people. what was
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once traditional to one party as well, has not become the focus of the other further muddying the political landscape states site, expanding it all out. here's our t sabrina culture. i think it was used to have a clear separation between it's 2 main parties. the democrats and republicans will, over the past decades, the blues don't keys, represented liberalism, globalism, peace and social welfare. the right that the focus on the other hand, have traditionally been conservative pushing for nationalism and the aggressive foreign policy. and as we market somewhere along the way, however, those lines, gall blurred, old school democrats have been against war, at least the principal. i opposed to warner racks on the beginning. it was a flawed strategy that diverted attention and resources away from hunting down or some of these lands, terrorist networks. and since then, too often, the presidents are racked policies have worse and americans security. today they
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are the ones screaming allow this one that comes to army as well. and ukraine. we must have ukraine in a approved can. we must do it quickly. the simple truth is that their battle is our battle to stay lose. americans live democrats used to call out the republicans for their aggressive war policies, which included sports or should have had the option of everything up and to and including waterboard. and i think you ought to have all of those capabilities on the table. so the i, that's big cheney, i mean, thank god, the last administration didn't listen to him at the end. fig cheney used to be, the vice president said also the arkansas behind the americas notes. horace invasions over rock and of gotten his thoughts. he was criticized and even the hates. it was that democrats for those brutal wars, one of which had in some a split services, but all is forgiven. now it seems as long as he says, those magic words against,
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from in our nation is 246 year history. there is never been an individual that was a great, a threat to our republic. and donald trump, he tried to steal the last election using lise and violence to keep himself in power after the voters had rejected. he is a coward, a real man wouldn't lie to his support. he lost his election any last big. i know it knows it from the down. i think most republicans know his, our lives is a former republican congresswoman who completely shares her father's ideology and has also made a u turn to the point. she's now campaigning for the democrats and the crowds. don't see a problem, help us write the ship of our democracy, so that history will save us. when our time of testing came, we did our duty and we prevailed, because we loved our country more. and now
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and now it is my great honor to introduce you to our vice president and the next president of the united states. pamela harris, the but there is a catch, the splice, the diverse appeal of the democrats to voters of all base and nationalities. it seems that once you have a chain, the on board, people get nervous, and security is extra vigilance when arab muslims are in the crowd and was actually sitting down city, some emails on my phone and it was not even engaged in any conversation with anyone . someone, the lady came to me and said, can you follow me please? and when we went to the door, i found 2 police officers waiting for me there. and they ended me. if i did leave, they would put me in the back of the police car while you were wearing perhaps something that was questionable. no. and i can show you the suit that i was waiting yesterday. i didn't have any friends any that. notice all campaign regrets,
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this action and its impact on dr. good name and the community and he is welcome mad future events. we value our relationship with the most little american community and are committed to ensuring all community and political spaces are welcoming and respectful to every american. if it's old, anyone 20 years ago, that hardwired republicans, dick, unless cheney would be on the side of the democrats 2 decades later, you would be considered insane. that sounds almost as insane as a kennedy. supporting a republican. oh, wait, please. the principal cause that persuaded me to leave the democratic democratic party and depend run as an independent and how to throw my support. president from nicole other clauses were free speech war and you great n or our children. and to add insult to injury,
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trump is getting realizing support now from black and latino voters who used to be an absolute strong hold. while the democrats and black, i'm gay and i voting for donald trump on november 5th. and let me get started with this. there is no law that says because i'm black or because i'm gay or because i happen to be both. but i'm suppose suppose to vote for democrats for the rest of my life. meanwhile, team. hi, iris is now focusing on the average. so the hard working white type of 56 year old go to come over here 6 almost she's right. i'm a former minister and republican from pennsylvania. you may not think where it says when i came into the, you know what she is, but what everyone's switching teams issues, policies and voters from democrats or republicans and back it's hold on to not.
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