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welcome to cross start bowl ins were all things are considered on pure level. the moment of truth has arrived. what will be the outcome of the us presidential election? well, either side, except the result. and what are the foreign policy implications across sucking these issues and more, i'm joined by my guess, jordan, samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast with the goggles, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet the bob, which is deputy for an editor. it comes to most guy a problem, the daily or a gentleman, cross up rules and effect. that means can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. all right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. well, we're down to the wire and mine reflections on this campaign. it was kind of whimsical. crane g. i'm a good dose of humor. mine must admit, i'm only on one side. the liberals are not funny anymore. they can't last night, certainly can't laugh at themselves. but you know, in, in todo george, it was
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a campaign by the leads most of the leads against one man. it wasn't democrats versus republicans. that was about one man. again. we saw and this is the 3rd election we've had about one man and we're down to the wire. it looks like the trump has some wind to in sales. we'll see. and certainly come over, harris turned out to be a complete dud. but when you have institutional power behind you, that can be enough. george, a good agree, will it be that um, because you this is, this is indeed the 3rd consecutive election in which the democrats, the media was a political establishment that secured this state. everybody just piled on to attack the drum and to seek to do whatever it can and it smell up to prevent him from becoming president. so were women, the in the
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a in 2016 was complete. absolutely disgraceful hoax. russia gate folks, but which no one has paid any prize, then we have in 2020 the eps of the cover up of the home to buy a laptop which would have been damaging to the bike and campaign. and now we have this survey. i go to the attempt to present him as the reincarnation of adult template is a person who we americans have been familiar with when was 50 years. uh, you know, a very popular uh, reality tv shows the uh, real estate mogul ago in gambling, uh, mobile, whatever, subject the turns out to be at all templates. so that is whatever they can in the products. but the 2 things that one would have to keep in mind as we go into the election night, which is i think that clearly the polls are indicating the trump is doing
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a lot better than he was doing in 2016 or 2020. i mean, back then he was behind the whole of the goals in the national goals and the bible grapples he was behind everywhere. he has never been a head. he is, he seems to be of the very least the, even, or the, even the head of the comment that higher is that with indicate that, that lovely, that he's doing a lot better. and even in those previous selections, they were very close. where he 11 closely he then when the other one was a very close, but this time be, you know, you see it's even and so they would suggest that he's going to win this one quite comfortably. now the other thing to keep in mind is that there is no way that the 10 with credits, it's a political security establishing is going to allow him to do it. i mean, we just notice that they got to do whatever they can to prevent this from happening . you know, it is the name of george and i have had extensive convers of extensive conversations on this. and i've been a basically gotten to come to the conclusion that doesn't really matter who wins on
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tuesday or thursday, or saturday or next month, depending on how the ballots are counted. but it's good to be the reaction to the outcome. and i think that's what is on the minds of a lot of people because they, you know, we, it wasn't political tardies, it was tribes, this is tribal. now this is tribal warfare and it's all good. it kicked into gear after the result because as like i said in my introduction, i will the other side accept the outcome. go ahead. do me. hey, you're absolutely right down the i will go over the long the time scale. you know, what was the news papers? the 2 part yes, may be miles apart. they don't want because it, but they both have better deals. i don't think if the other side was it will be the very end of both. this is the, the, it's amazing. you know, the, the boy is ation of society. why do you to type them?
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so why explanation is the, uh, the alter libra ropes, s like paul, uh, uh, that i do. what would you know, the campbell surround antares and by done most of the european publications. uh, hopefully liberals uh, lost us in greek and control overseas in craig and uh, all for the extend strive, you know, uh, a lot of people in the mind. yes. 1000 says that basically pod yes, i gauge and so much like each other. uh, in the, in the west uh comp. tell the conservative scrum labor you do in the, in the, in breed them. for example, i bought uh some co op liberals managed to create a quote like out of nothing, you know, cool in russia, did you clean the boat the 1st and then it will bundle right in the 90s? it was the west which could be uh, the which support the, the extreme is nationally as the new queen. so we need to buy it either. it became
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a labor of life from the people. it came in the charlotte, uh, all these issues the same way in the united states. okay. so the 1970 is about these from sexual spend down the, well they will, they, you call them these people just where they're, you know, i know it's a huge issue. you know, people are ready to queue in charlotte because of that issue. so uh these uh, these, uh, uh, the author, liberals, they, uh, they belong to the world eater in the quote. and we were in europe and the former soviet union. and finally came to the states also. so i predict that neither side will accept the results of the selection. and you're absolutely right. the real game will stop off cuz the, let's lot lot, julian baited to, you know, georgia, the, the, the, you know, we could of the,
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under the post mortem. la beasley include what were the inflection points. and i suppose we can point to a number of them, but the, the bike will garbage comments really kind of the sub with some of the one side looks at the other. i may have missed it, but i don't see the right using that kind of language. that doesn't mean they don't use course language. it doesn't mean they don't use offensive language. but just calling, i mean garbage is a pretty well universally understood word. ok, and nobody wants to be it. all right. and i think that that kind of sums it up and it is a kind of by prelude to how the, uh, the election is going to be received. once the ballads have been counted. a good, i think that's right. it's been done. i think this goes back. really. why does this the trump, the trump campaign arouse so much rage and so much hatred and fury? and i think it does go back to the question of it leads. really have been afraid
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for quite a long time of popular and popular anger over the way the economy has been handled . i mean, there's still the 1000 aged crash, which there's a game as we know, rail reckoning is that we get on how that came about them. the people paid a price for it. so we've had the, you know, this mass migration and the for risk take effect, but this has, have on society as throughout the west. who did this, why was this done? why was no one ever really informed about this? um and then now we have these was and it goes the, the industrialization of these ongoing things. and then how the leads respond to this popular and go remember vertical bama. you know, this was member that he was a nobody that in 2008, he starts talking about people clinging to the guns and the bibles. and he was lucky, of course, that he was up against this nightmare. creech and john became and then it goes with hillary clinton with a, you know, the top of his trump support is uh you don't belong to the boss,
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get the deplorable. and now we have bite and talking about the garbage. and i think that it does reflect the leads view, all the go over the, the mass is you know, that, that you know who that who know who, who is a, why does a complaint and then you know, we, we know much better than they do what needs to be done and i do think that that's really why what, what have accommodating office trunk does pose a threat to. busy to the stablish, well that you never know what he's going to with zip. i think they lose. it's a sense ability because i agree with everything you're saying. but because the middle class has been essentially decimated, we have and right of thorn wars again. but they would rather talk about people being garbage and deplorable. it doesn't talk about the court issues. i mean, they're, they're, it's, it's fighting over virtue signaling. okay. i mean, i think that's why a lot of people are buried, becoming more and more dissolution, particularly minorities in the democratic party. but have you done for me lately?
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you know? yeah, and this goes to the d mentioned the issue that you often bring up on this program is it's very high. be a logical, it's really to can. it's the demand to control a narrative, but not necessarily outcomes for average people to your of so the right the all kinds wherever is going to be bad. uh, well, the reason of which george hasn't mentioned there is no wreckage. i mean the, these people, it use us or what the biology is, you know that, that we get around the west and the speed your size, our and actually we say what about what the, what happened in low dollar value basically. so the west directory, the serious, the, that's what about, uh, the fact that the my, the so called really lucian, was actually available at the end of the list support that uh, by the direct presence of us officials. and you are being officials think,
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you know, imagine you would have pro, just much us in washington and some of them roll from the ground. and what's the term that you know, uh, what someone's role before in the district. that would have been a huge scandal about the american allow this to themselves. so, uh, since there is no reckoning seems there is always these. that's $18.00 to choose with this program, you know, uh, the mazda is deal uh, you solutions and left, left alone. uh, and the poor i zation is based out what you just described, you know, the 2 sides. what are in each of the garbage, huge and all sides. okay. and so the abusive language and what the, what is barry wice so is that really table? scary things. i've taken a small book during the last 2 months to assist you nation attempts against the a lot of the candidates for president by the way. uh, you have basically
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a totally due electro system. uh, you have things that have triggered the revolution. just a few years ago. now this is all except the, this is a, you know, this less one that you of the, as you have prevailed. and that's what is scary. people was the, i mean look, if car is comes to fall. what is the chance of india that ukraine you alternate? and then you can also use will land was the west stop supporting the dictatorship with you? the chance is always 0 because the 1st question to harris. if she accepts some part of a deal with russia would be what have you been doing during the last 2 in default years? where did the almost $200.00 premium, right. the know, we're going to continue talking about foreign policy. and when we return by a gentleman we're, i'm going to jump in this, we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real estate with already the
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welcome back. across the bullhorn design, peter labelle. hey, we're discussing some real news. all right, so i'm going to go back to georgia, daemon, hardy, touched upon. and let's talk about foreign policy. this is a bit of a quandary here because you know, we have a centrally is cold war, 2 point oh, focused against russian. we have a proxy war that started under the obama administration were biden was vice president. trump paid his bite, his role as well. are mainly ukrainian regime and then we have binding with full blown proxy, more of which has gotten extremely dangerous. no, they're obviously in the indications that there is more fatigue for the donor class
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in the west and within ukraine. ha beasley. although the casualty rate is high and they're running out of min material and left hand and by all accounts, even a friendly media towards villas, landscaping, shame, low morale. but what does that mean when, if trouble comes in or hair is comes and explain to me what could be the difference or what new or is that just really part of the campaign as well? i think of it some harris will almost certainly pursue the divide and follow. so i think she will continue of funding this war. i don't think she has any real ideas. i think she will just simply accept the kind of foreign policy establishment military establishment, the point of view as you might even escalate. you might be even sign off on things that bite in the seemed hesitant to sign off on, such as lifting or restrictions on the use of long range missiles on russian territory. trump is, i think, a more interesting case because, you know,
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if we go back to what he really believes, i mean, you know, to go back date of that could be 32000 when he 1st contemplated running for president. he is always been a games of conflict with russia this, you know, although some of the beginning he saw that this was later was a real waste of money and a waste of time for the united states. 2016. he was clearly identified by the trying that it is a real problem. it makes a lot of sense for us to wage war against russia, even a proxy war against russia when china is, will be the major beneficiary. and you, you'll have to think that that's what he's going to come in with is going to, if he wants to endless war, because china has to be the focus of america. so it concerns, nope, that's a, it's a different questions as to whether he be able to pull this off. but i think that's going to be his, his initial goal, that to bring this war to a, as
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a speedy and as possible. if however, he fails to do that, then i can see him going the other way, which is the mass of escalation. so it's very unpredictable, but at least with trump, there is a slight hope that is going to just they take the bull by the horns, it just a right click let, let me just do whatever is necessary to bring this through it. open the media of conclusion. it's interesting that you mentioned china because it, even from pre politics was, well, part b on china a whole of the time. i mean, it was really one of the 1st major public figures. not, not, not a political figure, but a public figure to um, to talk about that the many at the was a recent interview. i think it was the last new cycle where a trump lamented how close russia in china is gotten. and that goes with george just said that he, that's, that's the, that's the price for him. and that it may be the origin 0. we want it would, it would be good to get along with russia from 2016. unfortunately we have russia
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gate in between i think it's almost an impossibility that he can go down the track . i mean there's so many avenue is closed off for next week. both candidates when it comes to the national security state fema too well indeed the little while it's brought us in peace quick. it's wrong, but you're absolutely right. you are, you know george was absolutely right. what would she oh okay. why does to be want to uh, does she pretends to want to have the conflict between your brand and russia in order to concentrate on china? so keep this thought a lot hybrid more with china. well, we have what i want to know. mind is bro wishing piece, even bro. okay, let's see if that, that's dredge, you know, i think the, the power is, comes before she can law resolve the ukraine because she is, i'm sort of,
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she is a corporate, you know, she was bought at least fully at bob or bar. i don't support you see, which led to the school and we've invested by the baseball kit for more than 2 years. so she could not turn it back on with a 0 again, the united states during the looks that entered into a corner united states. the lot that by these, what happens with these uh, uh, with these page or their whole full book. you may need to because is the 1st use or call us quote devices with episodes it's, it's something like that you create a warehouse or chemical weapons. suddenly every long becomes a more of a, you know, a while or a boat to do it. a saw the table around the globe because now we see that these, these can be used. that gave you, once again, it's very much right then bullet points didn't bother you. the other states has a, you know, they already, they already, uh,
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invented too much any minutes about your green. uh they, they connect that great to modules they, if you walk idea a logical investment to leave it out. so uh, basically they did use the radio, would you both and your brain and it is real is called the sun cost fallacy. that's exactly are exactly right. you know, judge on the margins and, but of course right now in american politics, it be what the do, walk away party do awfully, margins matter a lot. and for some it's really quite interesting. we look at pennsylvania and michigan, wisconsin, minnesota. get aside is on the ballot for, for and many. um, um, um muslims here and eric americans who knows that that could flip the whole script. i mean, the more you look at it, it least potentially it's there and that will have implications possibly. and then
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maybe you have to hope guys last. then you will see when genocide is on the ballot, you better pay attention to the electric. i'm. i'm looking, you might have future trump administration. i may be, you know, hollowing in the woods here, but we'll find out if it makes a difference. george. so i think that's right. i mean, is they, would we make these calculations um, for election night? it's looking like um, trump will carry the some bells states, so it's all going to be down to the 3 blue wall states, the great blake states, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. the calculation is if tropics, off one of them, the trunk is president. if harris winds or 3 then have, is this present now, all of the 3 left focusing very much on pennsylvania. but michigan could be the, the, the, the sleep. but that because this is a very significant, there's a very significant most of them, an arab american population in michigan that will really make their feelings blame
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the very upset about the, the bite the ministration. now the democrats have been saying that, oh, well, but trump would be worse. that's always that go to argument. oh yeah, yeah. well, you may know of like what vide mattress did, but one would be worse. but that's the convincing argument because as a patrol was it was, you know, we have 4 years of trunk and we didn't have anything like this either in the executive church. and it's like saying, you know, this person is committed murder, but this, this guy might commit murder. i mean, i was, yeah, it was, i mean, like to 2 people, not just one person could like deal to that. exactly. that's the argument. and it's not a very convincing argument, and that's why the, you know, number of these, um, yeah, most of them in the arab leaders have come out to, in support of trump. and they were, they will be a game, a very rational calculation. the trunk could just come in and bring this through. and that's really, it doesn't really need, you know, whole this uh,
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a pack and zion is money is not running around with got offers. elaine is only a guy who is down. he doesn't need marian models, a name or either he's a, he's involved. so he might come in and say, you know, it's already going to be, he doesn't have any particular attachment to israel. i mean it's, it's was always a kind of transaction, real thing. you need the money because he's been very short of money compared to the democrats. so once he's involved, it's quite possible that he might rethink this and think about his story. the legacy is the bringing piece to the movies because he's never about remember the fact that brock obama got a nobel peace prize and he didn't. okay. demo um, you can talk about the american presidential politics. it'd be there for the 3rd cycle now without talking about russia. so when he's rushing meddling in this time around in the election, natalie is obvious here, of course of joking. but,
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you know, x now goes, you rushed to see this election. did they have a dog in this fight, or every single president is the same when it comes to american foreign policy towards russia? oh, i think a is a part of that huge, huge, a disappointing development that we have the scene. so i think they didn't a to, so there was really huge jobs to uh, resolve the conflict between russia and do that to states russia and you were there was a lot of goodwill on the sign of ra sheets. amazing. how rushed to people despise the same. what? probably because we were isolated from the west of media when you know the full school. it's a trip that exists in the united states and europe. and even then use the eastern your against us. we would have driven over back the world and the in the light. yes . any, the installs, it seemed russians that the v is actually a re, is you know,
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what, it was a very, really 40 petition when she helped the 9th of states, you know, gave us the 1000 a month after the 91130 is that there's 4 quarters it look like very, very, really school support them. now if we support them in, you know, guess of they're going to see, well, hold on people. they have much was a name is the last, you know, look at these uh you from is various. so what the get to washington a to go and what was amazing was that the americans at least they're making the lead given low just that, you know, they, they, they push it, they, the portal can be something to do with the same or see it disregarding they were wanting to know the single russia. it could be that the respect to do, but this is not a single sir. uh, website security for woodthrush. its insurance is much great the cuz it against the congress which were all really connected to the terrace,
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but actually inside the united states, several of these congress out of beach to us likes. so uh, well little by little would your patients by little, by little, becoming more, more disappointed, but they're still rushing school for some kind of change of the way who is a diplomatic solution? well, the ukraine impulse, that is there is what the majority of already set it on this program hope dies last . okay, right. this is our last program before the presidential election. i'm sure next time the 3 of us be we'll be talking about the implications if they've are, if, if they're not, i haven't stopped counting ballots, but that is in 2 weeks time. we'll see. all right, general. and i'm going to take my guess in budapest ads in moscow and of course of what i think our viewers for watching and see in our to see you next them. and remember across networks the,
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our family is one of them. many families across squan who's assessed our lands were taken from them after world war 2, around 2 thirds of the island was actually seized by the us after the war. we are domestically a part of the united states, right? we, we, we operate within the system of government, but we are not privy to negotiations with other government entities
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being knighted states as never really acknowledge the fact that we are a colonial people. national security has never been about us. it's national security is about 6 clearing american men in france, and this was about security. we would be. so if i were actually targets the r o t r t, formerly known as russia today, trying to influence the presidential election in november, the extraordinary new efforts to once again infiltrate our election and undermined democracy 2 will 5 proceeds to direct this information in propaganda. here to sort of divide america as our team has moved beyond functioning fact or okay, then do you want to know who, what pick was this time and make sure you turn in for all the special coverage of
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