lot of canada as any other legion. so i think the police and the government of canada is duty bound to protect its citizens. whichever legions. yeah. the 21st annual meeting of the valve, the discussion club kicks off today and the washing and blacks, the city of sochi, is event. it's focusing on global conflict resolution, common security on the equal opportunities of development. the russian lead is not the way a person is set to make an appearance on the final day of the conference. on the day before the guests began, the discussions i corporation agreement was signed between the grouping and a pocket study thing time with the also tennessee to exchange ideas as find solutions to big issues in the team from that on the sidelines at the forum we spoke with the institute of international law school, i'm a president way in madison, and he said the ukraine conflict hasn't benefits, but especially if ts or satellites to. yeah,

the less does it just to me at 1st. i think it is now clear that the special military operation or war in ukraine is not favorable for ukraine and for ukraine's allies. this is the 1st factor that even mainstream media in the west of already noted. it is not only the rare alternative new source that writes about this. and 2nd now everyone in europe is worried about the elections in the usa. and the fact that whether it is trump or harris, well, even more so, wonder trump, europe must live by its own widths and cannot be supported by the united states. because of this, i think 1st the situation at the front and then these geo political processes that are happening in the world lead to the fact that this plan was received quickly. this is said politely, and this is simply probably the politeness of the western media. because seriously, probably no one believes in this plan. well, there's a lot to learn more about any of us stories that do take out our website all t dot com. i hope you're having a great start to your week. always

a pleasure to have you with us here on the policy to international the russian states. never as tight as i'm one of the most sense community invest. in most all sun set up the must be the one else holes. question about this, even though we will then in the european union, the kremlin media mission, the state on rochester routing and split the r t smooth net keeping our video agency roughly all the band on youtube

think steve, steve, the welcome to cross start bowl ins were all things are considered on pure level. the moment of truth has arrived. what will be the outcome of the us presidential election will either side except the result. and what are the foreign policy implications across? i think these issues and more i'm joined by my guess, jordan samuel, we in budapest, he's a pod cast where the gospel, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet the bob, which is deputy for an editor. it comes to most guy a problem, the daily or

a gentleman cross up role is in effect that means can jump anytime you want. and i would appreciate it. right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. well, we're down to the wire, mind reflections on this campaign. it was kind of whimsical. queen g. i'm a good dose of humor. i must admit, i'm only on one side. the liberals are not funny anymore. they can't last night. certainly can't laugh at themselves. but, you know, and in toto george, it was a campaign by the leads. most of the leads against one man. it wasn't democrats versus republicans. that was about one man. again, we saw and this is the 3rd election we've had about one man and we're down to the wire. it looks like the trump has some wind to in sales. we'll see. so certainly comfortable, harris turned out to be a complete god. but when you have institutional power behind you, that can be enough. george, a good agree will it be that um, because this is,

this is indeed the 3rd consecutive election in which the democrats, the media was a political establishment that secured this state. everybody just piled on to attack the drum and to seek to do whatever it could be kept in its power to prevent him from becoming president. so were women, the in the a in 2016 was complete. absolutely disgraceful hoax. russia gate folks, but which no one has paid any prize, then we have in 2020 the eps of the cover up of the home to buy a laptop which would have been damaging to the bike campaign. and now we have the survey, i guess the attempt to present him as the reincarnation of adult template is a person who we americans have been familiar with when was 50 years. uh, you know,

a very popular uh, reality tv shows the uh, real estate mogul ago in gambling uh, mobile, whatever. suddenly he turns out to be at all tape low. so then whatever they can be in the house. but the 2 things that would have to keep in mind as we go into that extra night, which is i think that clearly the polls are indicating the trump is doing a lot better than he was doing in 2016 or 2020. i mean by glenn. he was behind the full of the polls in the national goals and the bible grapples he was behind everywhere. he has never been a head. he is, he seems to be of the very least the, even, or the, even the head of the combo, the higher is that would indicate that he, that literally, that he's doing a lot better. and even in those previous selections, they were very close. uh, you know, he 11 closely he'd been when the other one was a very close, but this time be, you know, you see it's even and so it would suggest that he's going to win this one quite

comfortably. now the thing to keep in mind is that there is no way that the 10 with credits, it's a political security style bedroom is going to allow him to do it. i mean, we just know there's that they've got to do whatever they can to prevent this from happening. you know it's, it's the damage george and i have an expensive convers of extensive conversations on this. and i basically got it come to the conclusion. it doesn't really matter who wins on tuesday or thursday, or saturday, or next month, depending on how the ballots are counted. but it's good to be the reaction to the outcome. and i think that's what is on the minds of a lot of people because they, you know, we, it wasn't political tardies, it was tribes, this is tribal. now this is tribal warfare and it's all good. it kicked into gear after the result because as like i said in my introduction, i will the other side accept the outcome. go ahead. do me now. you're absolutely

right down the i will go over the long the science gear, you know, or was, and you stickers, the to part yes, maybe miles apart. they don't want because it, but they both have better deals. i don't think if the other side was it will be the very end of both. this is the, the, it's amazing. you know, the, the bullet or is ation site. why do you to type them? so why explanation is the uh, the old felipe or folks s like paul uh, uh that i do. what would you know the campbell surround getting terry's and by then most of the europeans, but additions ultra liberals and lost us in greek and control over seat encouraging conflict and strive, you know, a lot of people in the mind. yes, 1000 says that basically progress i gauge and so much like each other in the, in the west of the come to the conservative, strong labor you do in the, in the,

in breed them. for example, i bought some co author liberals managed to create the whole thing out of nothing. you know, who in russia didn't ukraine the both the person that h or monday ever in the 90s. it was the west which could be the which support the, the extreme is nationally as the new queen solely the, it became a liberal life from the people. it came in. they charl. uh, all these issues in the same way in the united states. okay, so in the, in the 19 seventy's about these from sexual spends down the, well, they will, they, you call them these people just where they're, you know, i know it's a huge issue. you know, people are ready to queue in charlotte because of that issue. so uh these uh, these uh, uh, the author, liberals the uh,

the blinds or the walls in the quote. and we were in europe and the former soviet union. yeah, it finally came to the states also. so i predict that neither side will accept the results of the seduction. and you're absolutely right. the real game will stop off cuz the, let's lot, lot during the day that to, you know, georgia, the, the, the, you know, we could of the, the post mortem o ha, beasley include, but we're the inflection points. and i suppose we can point to a number of them, but the, the bike will garbage comments really kinds assemble some of the one side looks at the other. i may have missed it, but i don't see the right using that kind of language. that doesn't mean they don't use course language, it doesn't mean they don't use offensive language, but just calling mean garbage is a pretty well universally understood word. ok and nobody wants to be it. all right . and i think that that kind of sums it up, and it is

a kind of by prelude to how the, uh, the election is going to be received once the ballots have been counted. a good i think that's right. and then i think this goes back really, why does this the trump, the trump campaign arouse so much rage and so much hatred than fury. and i think it does go back to the question of it leads. really have been afraid for quite a long time. of popular and popular anger over the way the economy has been handled . i mean, there's no live, but there 1008 crash. which does a game. there's been no real reckoning, is that we get on how that came about them. the people paid a price for it. so we've had the, you know, this mass migration and the for risk take effect. but this does have, once the site is throughout the west, who did this, why was this done? why was no one ever really informed about this? um and then now we have these was and it goes the,

the industrialization of these ongoing things. and then how the leads respond to this popular and go remember, barrack obama, you know, this was number that he was a nobody that in 2008, he starts talking about people cleaning to the guns and the bibles. and he was lucky of those that he was up against this. the nightmare creature john became and then it goes with hillary clinton with a, you know, top of his trump support as you don't belong to the boss, get the deplorable. and now we have bite and talking about the good all bridge. and i think that it does reflect the leads view. all the go over the, to the mass is you know, that, you know, who's it, who know who, who is a, why does a complaint and there, you know, we, we know much better than they do what needs to be done. and i do think that that's really why it, what, whatever comes in office trunk does pose a threat to uh, to the stablish or that you have a name. what are you going to do with that? i think that was it's a sense ability because i agree with everything you're saying,

but because the middle class has been essentially decimated, we have and right of thorn wars again. but they would rather talk about people being garbage and deplorable. it doesn't talk about the court issues. i mean they're, they're, it's, it's fighting over virtue signaling. okay. i mean, i think that's why a lot of people are buried and becoming more more dissolution, particularly minorities in the democratic party. but have you done for me lately? you know, and this goes to the deem it to the issue that you often bring up on this program is it's very high, be a logical, it's really to can. it's the demand to control a narrative, but not necessarily outcomes for average people to your of so the right the all kinds leverage was going to be bad. uh, well, the reason of which george hasn't mentioned there is no wreckage. i mean, uh these people use us or what the biology is. you know that the we get around the

west mesquite size all were and actually we say what about what, what's happening in mo, door where you're basically still on the west, directly the serious the that's what about uh, the fact that the my, the so called dilution was actually a viable who is the least support that uh by the direct presence of us officials and your be in the future. i think, you know, imagine you would have pro just much us in washington and some of them roll from the ground. and what's the term that you know, uh, what someone's role before in the district. that would have been a huge scandal about the american scale all this to themselves. so what it says there is no reckoning seems there is always these steps move 182 with this problem . you know, uh, the mazda is deal uh you solutions and left, left alone. uh, and the poor i zation is based out what you just described. you know, the 2 sides,

one in each of the garbage, huge and all sides, okay. as of the abusive language. and what the, what is barry wice so is that, uh, really table, scary things. i've taken a small book during the last 2 months to assist you nation attempts against the a lot of the candidates for president by the way. uh, you have basically a totally due electro system. uh, you have things that have triggered the revolution just a few years ago. now this is all except the, this is a, you know, this less one that you, what is your prevailing. and that's what is scary people was. uh, uh i'm is look if car is comes to fall. what is the chance of india that ukraine you alternate and the brand new offers will land the west stop supporting the dictatorship with you. the chance is almost 0 because the 1st question to harris,

if she accepts some part of the deal with russia would be what have you been doing during the last 2 integral years? where did the almost 200 premium, right. the know we're going to continue talking about foreign policy and when we return by a gentleman we're, i'm going to jump in this. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real new stay with our to the

the welcome back across the bullhorn design, peter a little here. we're discussing some real news. all right, so i'm going to go back to georgia, daemon, hardy, touched upon and let's talk about foreign policy. this is a bit of a quandary here because, you know, we have a centrally as cold war 2 point oh, focused against russian. we have a proxy war that started under the obama administration. we're biden was vice president. trump said his bite, his role as well, are mainly ukrainian regime. and then we have biden with full blown prophecy, more of which has gotten extremely dangerous. now there are how beasley and in occasions that there is more fatigue for the only other class in the west and within ukraine hall beasley, the casualty rate is high and they're running out of min material and left hand. and by all accounts, even a friendly media towards their lives, with us,

the landscaping, low morale. but what does that mean when, if trouble comes in or hair is comes and explain to me what could be the difference or what new or is it just really part of the campaign as well? i think of it some harris will almost certainly pursue the dividing policy. i think she will continue of funding this war. i don't think she has any real ideas. i think she will just simply accept that kind of foreign policy establishment military establishment. the point of view is you might even escalate, you might even sign off on things that bite in the seemed hesitant to sign off on, such as lifting or restrictions on the use of long range missiles on russian territory. trump is, i think, a more interesting case because, you know, if we go back to what he really believes, i mean, in order to go back date of that could enter in 2000 when he 1st contemplated running for president. he has always been a games of conflict with russia this,

you know, although some of the beginning he saw that this was a nato, was a real waste of money and a waste of time for the united states. 2016. he was clearly identified the trying that it is our real problem. it makes a lot of sense for us to wage war against russia, even a proxy war against russia. when china, it will be the major beneficiary. and you, you'll have to think that that's what he's going to come in with is going to, is he wants to endless war, because china has to be the focus of america 2nd son. now that's a, it's a different questions as to whether he be able to pull this off. but i think that's going to be his, his initial goal, that to bring this war to a, as a speedy and as possible. if however, he fails to do that, then i can see him going the other way, which is the mass of escalation. so it's very unpredictable,

but at least with trump, there is a slight hope that is going to just they take the bull by it who owns it, just a right click, but let me just do whatever is necessary to bring this through it. open the media of conclusion. it's interesting that you mentioned china because you go even from pre politics was, well heart b on china a whole of the time. i me, it was really one of the 1st major public figures. not, not, not a political figure, but a public figure to um, to talk about that the many and there was a recent interview. i think it was the last new cycle where a trump lamented how close russia in china is gotten. and that goes with george just said that he, that's, that's the, that's the price for him. and that is, may be the origin 0. we want it would, it would be good to get along with russia from 2016. unfortunately, we have russia gate in between, i think it's almost an impossibility that he can go down the truck. i mean, there's so many avenue is closed off for next we both candidates when it comes to

the national security state dealer. well indeed look a little while is pro, is she peas clear and strong, but you're absolutely right. you, you know, george was absolutely right. what would she oh okay. why that's the want to, oh i does, she, we tend to want to have that quote like this though, between your grand and russia in order to concentrate on china. so took this thought a lot at hybrid. what with china ro we have, what i want to know, long, this promotion piece. even let's see if that that's dredge, you know, i think that the power is comes before she can law resolve the ukraine. busy cause she is, i'm sort of, she is a corporate, you know, she was bought at least 45 or by those 40 see which let to baseball. and which is that somebody to be sponsored for more than 2 years. so she could not turn it back

on with these rules. again, the united states during the looks that info canada, united states, the north america east. and what happens with these uh, uh, with these page are there? well, how full of books you may need to because is the 1st use or call us co devices. with episodes it's, it's something like that, you know, a weapons or chemical weapons. suddenly, every long becomes a more of a, you know, a developer of what to do with a sutherland terrible death around the globe. because now we see that these, these can be used that gauge fuel. once again is very much right then, but welcome to didn't bother you. the other states has a, you know, they already, uh, they already, uh, invented too much. any meats about you green. uh they, they connected great to modules they. if you have idea a logical investment to leave it out. so uh,

basically the host did use the radio. would you both the, your brain and it is what it is called. the sunk cost fallacy. that's exactly are exactly right. you know, charge on the margins and, but of course right now in american politics it be what the do, walk away party do awfully margins matter a lot. and for some it's really quite interesting. we look at pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, minnesota. genocide is on the ballot for for many um, um, um muslims here and eric americans who knows that could flip the whole script. i mean, the more you look at it, it least potentially it's there and that will have implications possibly. and then maybe you have to hope guys last, then you will see when genocide is on the ballot, you better pay attention to the electric. i'm, i'm looking, you might have future trump administration. i may be, you know,

hollowing in the woods here, but we'll find out if it makes a difference. george? i think that's right. i mean, is they, would we make these calculations um, for, to night? it's looking like um, trump will carry the sun belt states. so it's all going to be down to the 3 blue wall states, the great lakes that it's michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. the calculation is if tropics of one of them, the trunk is president. if harris winds all 3, then have is as present. now all the 3 left focusing very much on pennsylvania, but michigan could be the guess the sleep. but that because this is a very significant, there's a very significant most of them, an arab american population in michigan that will really make this evening spring. the very upset about the the bite, no ministration. now, the democrats have been saying that, oh, well, but trump would be was that's always that go to argument. oh yeah. yeah. well,

you may know of like what vitamin iris did, but trump would be was. but that's not a convincing argument because as a patrol was it was, you know, we have 4 years of trunk and we didn't have anything like this in the church. and it's like saying, you know, this person is committed murder, but this, this guy might commit murder. i mean, i think it was, yeah, it was, i mean, like to, to people not just one person could like deal to that. exactly. that's the argument . and it's not a very convincing argument, and that's why the, you know, number of these, um, yeah, most of them in arab leaders have come out to, in support of trump. and then they will be a game, a very rational calculation. the trump could just come in and bring this to, and that's really, it doesn't really need, you know, whole this uh, a pack and zion is money is not running a room. a job offer to be a lane is only a guy who is down. he doesn't need murray models a name or either he's a,

he's involved. so he might come in and say enough already. you're going to be, he doesn't have any particular attachment to israel. i mean it's, it's was always a kind of trends, actual thing. you need the money because it's been very short of money compared to the demographics. so once he's in power, it's quite possible that he might rethink this and think about his historic legacy as the bringing peace to the movies because he's never gotten over the fact that brock obama gotten a nobel peace prize and he didn't. okay. the demo um you can talk about the american presidential politics. it'd be there for the 3rd cycle now without talking about russia. so when he's rushing meddling in this time around in the election, maybe is obvious here, of course of joking. but, you know, snow goes, you rush to see this election, do they have a dog in this fight or every single president is the same when it comes to american

foreign policy towards russia. oh, i think a is a part of that huge, huge, disappointing development that we have seen. so i think they did ages. so there was really huge jobs to uh, resolve the conflict between russia and do that to states russia and you were there was a lot of goodwill on the sign of ra sheets. amazing co rushed to people despise the same. what probably because we were isolated from the west of media when you know the school is take a trip that exists in the united states and europe. and even then use the eastern your against us. we would be, would have driven over back the world. and the, even the lady us any, the thousands, it seemed to russians that the v is actually really, you know, what, it was a very, really 4020 dish. and when she helped the 9th of stage, you know, gave us the 1000 well after the $91130.00 is that that's what portion of it look

like. very, very, really, to support them. now, if we support them in, you know, guess what? they're going to see, well, hold on people that they have much was a name is the last, you know, look at these a, these from is various. so what they did to washington, a 2 dogs. and what was amazing was that the americans, at least they made the lead, given low just that, you know, they, they, they, chris, it, they, the portal can be something continued with the same force, you disregard. and they were wanting to know the single russia. it could be that the respect to do, but this is not a single sir. uh, website security for woodthrush, it serves is much great the security against the congress, which we're all really connected to. but there is, but they're actually inside the united states. some of these congress of beach to us at lights. so uh well, little by little wasn't patients by little, by little becoming more or disappointed. but there are still russians who will some

kind of change as the main cool, because a diplomatic solution will the ukraine impulse, that is there is what the majority of already set it on this program hope dies last . okay, right. this is our last program before the presidential election. i'm sure. next time the 3 of us be we'll be talking about the implications if they've are, if, if they're not, i haven't stopped counting ballots, but that is in 2 weeks time. we'll see. all right, gentlemen, i'm going to take my guess in budapest and in moscow. it of course of what i think our viewers for watching and see in our to see you next them. and remember across the works. the other many places in the was where you can stay on the divide between the 2 oceans and the you might not think kids. one of them is hey, english is northern, our phone goes to fijian, in the channels that us national parks. and today we know the stuff was taking

a deep side into some beach because of the in 1960, the americans launched the huge bellwether operation. documents most of the, of the reading found that way online. the us army chemical, coal research and development combined in june 1960, directed the dugway proving ground utah to investigate and develop into more logical field testing techniques designed to permit the quantity of evaluation of into a logical munitions. these tests formed the basis for developing offensive biological weapons. no withstanding that in april 1972, the us britain and the soviet union assigned to conventions strictly prohibiting such development.