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and make sure you turn into all the special coverage of the us presidential election. the welcome to cross dive bowl ins were all things are considered on to your level. the moment of truth has arrived. what will be the outcome of the us presidential election? will either side except the result and what are the form policy implications across i think these issues and more i'm joined by my guess georgia, samuel, we in budapest, he's the pod cast where the guy goal, which can be found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow we have to meet the bob, which is deputy for an editor. it comes to most guy a problem, the daily or a gentleman, cross up rules and effect. that means can jump any time you want and i would appreciate it. all right, let's kick it off with george in budapest. well,
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we're down to the wire and mine reflections on this campaign. it was kind of whimsical. queen g. i'm a good dose of humor. i must admit, only on one side the liberals are not funny anymore. they can't last night, certainly can't laugh at themselves. but you know, in, in todo george, it was a campaign by the leads most of the leads against one man. it wasn't democrats versus republicans. that was about one man. again. we saw and this is the 3rd election we've had about one man, and we're down to the wire. it looks like the trump has some wind to in his sales. we'll see. so certainly comfortable, harris turned out to be a complete doug. but when you have institutional power behind you, that can be enough. george, a good agree will it be that um, because this is, this is indeed the 3rd consecutive election in which the democrats,
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the media was the political establishment that secured this state. everybody just piled on to attack donald trump and to seek to do whatever because in its power to prevent him from becoming president's own working women. the in the a in 2016 was complete. absolutely disgraceful hoax. russia gate folks, but which no one has paid any prize, then we have in 2020 the eps of the cover up of the home to buy a new laptop which would have been damaging to the bike and campaign. and now we have this the least attempt to present him as the reincarnation of idol template is a person who we americans have been familiar with when was 50 years. uh, you know, a very popular uh, reality tv shows the, uh,
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real estate mobile growth in gambling, uh, mobile, whatever. suddenly he turns out to be at all templates. so that is whatever they can in the house. but the 2 things that would have to keep in mind as we go into the election night, which is i think that clearly the polls are indicating the trump is doing a lot better than he was doing in 2016 or 2020. i mean by glenn. he was behind the full of the polls in the national balls and the battle ground because he was behind everywhere. he has never been a head. he is, he seems to be at the very least the, even, or the, even the head of the com a higher is that with indicate that he, that literally, that he's doing a lot better. and even in those previous selections, they were very close. when he won one closely, he then when the other ones also very close, but this time be, you know, you can see it's even and so they would suggest that he's going to win this one quite comfortably. now the thing to keep in mind is that there is no way that the
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10 with crowds hit the political security style bedroom is going to allow him to do it. i mean, we just know there's that they've got to do whatever they can to prevent this from happening. you know, it's the damage george and i have an expensive convers of extensive conversations on this. and i even basically got it come to the conclusion. it doesn't really matter who wins on tuesday or thursday, or saturday, or next month, depending on how the ballots are counted. but it's good to be the reaction to the outcome. and i think that's what is on the minds of a lot of people because they, you know, we, it wasn't political parties, it was tribes, this is tribal, now this is tribal warfare and it's all good. it kicked into gear after the result because as like i said in my introduction, i will the other side accept the outcome. go ahead. do me now. you're absolutely right down the i will go over the longer times, you know, you know, or was,
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and you'll stickers, the 2 part yes, maybe miles apart. they don't want because it, but they both have better deals. i don't think if the other side will it will be the very end of bolt. this is the, the, it's amazing. you know, the, the full or you zation of society. why do you the type of the why explanation is the uh, the alter libra ropes, s like paul, uh, uh that i do. what would you know the campbell surround getting terry's and by done, most of the european publications ultra liberal so on last that's the greek and control of a seat. encouraging qualtrics that's drive, you know, a lot of people in the mind. yes. thousands says that basically pod yes, i gauge and so much like each other in the, in the west of the comp tell that the conservative strong labor you do in the, in the, in breeds of for example, i bought some co op liberals managed to create
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a quote, like out of nothing, you know, cool in russia, did you create the boat, the 1st and then it will bundle right? in the ninety's. it was the west which could be the which support the, the extreme is nationally as the new queen. so little by the, the, it became a liberal life from the, you know, people like, you know, they show a, all these issue in the same way in the united states. okay, to in the, in the 19 seventy's about these, from sexual spend down the, well, there was a, you call them these people just where they're, you know, i know it's a huge issue. you know, people are ready to queue in charlotte because of that issue. so uh these uh, these, uh, uh, the author liberals the, uh, the blinds of the walls in the quote. and we were in europe and the former soviet
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union. and it finally came to the states also. so i redid that neither side will itself, the results of the selection. and you're absolutely right. the real game will stop after the, let's lot, lot during the day that to, you know, georgia, the, the, the, you know, we could, of the, under the post mortem o ha. beasley include, but where are the inflection points? and i suppose we can point to a number of them, but the, the bike will garbage comments really kind of the sub with some of the one side looks at the other. i may have missed it, but i don't see the right using that kind of language. that doesn't mean they don't use course language. it doesn't mean they don't use offensive language. but just calling, i mean garbage is a pretty well universally understood word. ok, and nobody wants to be it. all right. and i think that that kind of sums it up and it is a kind of by prelude to how the, the election is going to be received once the ballots have been counted. a good. i
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think that's right. it's been done, i think this goes back. really. why does this the trump, the trump campaign arouse so much rage and so much hatred and fury? and i think it does go back to the question of the leads. really have been afraid for quite a long time of popular and popular anger over the way the economy has been handled . i mean, there's no loop, but there 1008 crash, which there's a game, there's been no real reckoning us. so we get on how that came about and all the people pay the price for it. so we've had the, you know, this mass migration and the for rick take effect, but this has, have on society as throughout the west, who did this, why was this done? why was no one ever really informed about this? um, and then now we have these was, and it goes to the, the industrialization of these ongoing things. and then how the leads respond to this popular ango. remember barrack obama, you know, this was,
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remember that he was a nobody that in 2008, he starts talking about people cleaning the guns and the bibles. and he was lucky of those that he was up against this nightmare. creech and john became and then it goes with hillary clinton with uh, you know, fall off of his term support as uh, you don't belong to the boss, get the deplorable. and now we have biden talking about the gall bitch. and i think that it does reflect the leads view. oh really? oh oh, these are the masses. you know, that they get to who, who know who, who is a, why does a complaint and they're, you know, we, we know much better than they do. what needs to be done? and i do think that that's really why what whatever comes in in office trunk does pose a threat to uh, to the stablish. well that you have a name. what do you do with just i think that was it's a sense ability because i agree with everything you're saying. but because the middle class has been essentially decimated,
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we have and right looks for and wars again. but they would rather talk about people being garbage and deplorable. it doesn't talk about the court issues. i mean, they're, they're, it's, it's fighting over virtue signaling. okay. i mean, i think that's why a lot of people are buried in becoming more more dissolution, particularly minorities in the democratic party. but have you done for me lately, you know, and this goes to the d mentioned, the issue that you often bring up on this program is it's very high. be a logical, it's really to can. it's the demand to control a narrative, but not necessarily outcomes for average people to your to the right the, the all kinds, wherever is going to be bad. uh, well the reason which george hasn't mentioned there is no wreckage. i mean, uh these people use us or what the boat is, you know that, that we get uh around the uh, west most bridget size our and actually we say, what about what the, what happened in mo,
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door where you're basically still on the west, directly the serious the that's what about, uh, the fact that the my, the so called really lucian, was actually available at the end of the list support that uh, by the direct presence of us officials and your be in officials. thank you. you know, imagine you would have pro just march us in washington and someone roll from the ground and what's the term there? you know, uh, well someone thrilled before in the street that would have been a huge scandal about the americans to allow this to themselves. so what it says there is no reckoning seems there is always these, that's $18.00 to choose with this problem. you know, uh, the mazda is deal uh you solutions and left, left alone. uh and uh, uh, fluoride zation is based out what you just described. you know, the 2 sides wondering each of the garbage, huge and all sides,
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okay. as of abusive language, and what the, what is barry wice? so is that really tables? scary things. i've taken a small book during the last 2 months to assist you nation attempts against there are a lot of the candidates for president by the way. uh you have basically a total of lead you electro system. uh you have things that have triggered the notion just a few years ago. no, this is all except the, this is a, you know, this less one i did you. what is your prevails. and that's what is scary before was uh uh i'm just look if car is comes to fall. what is the chance of india that ukraine you both? and they have great new offers with the land of the west. stop supporting the dictatorship with you. the chance is almost 0 because the 1st question to harris, if she accepts some part of a deal with russia would be what have you been doing during the last 2 in default
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years. where did the oldest be conquered premium, right? the new way to continue talking about foreign policy and when we mature, i are a gentleman where i'm going to jump in this. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on some real new stay with our team the, cuz i know it's pretty nice to someone that just didn't want to say i'm on this for the best interest you. i, if i do, for you under the guise of evacuation about 50000 people were transported the, the main purpose of this concentration camp in bella was, was to in think prisoners was typhus and use them as a human shield against the advancing soviet, on a given mind but feeling
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slipped into from the customer service order. that's basically what it was in the plugin for the ship, the ship, a bit of stuff like that, but don't want to bring your name. you know, i'm so sorry i missed because on your certificate seems to put your salary and as a to see if the nazis use people is biological weapons leading them to perish without food. was a motion to feed off some water from your for a deity. so could anything who lives out there with you for the small it to the can you put the infinity collision weight loose or just put in each each additional relationship for density moved the cam, gloucester 10 days or what else made it drastically defense from other camps of that, the rice watch on t the welcome back across the bullhorn design. peter a little bell here we're discussing some real news. all right,
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so i'm going to go back to georgia, daemon, hardy, touched upon and let's talk about foreign policy. this is a bit of a quandary here because you know, we have a centrally is cold war, 2 point oh, focused against russian. we have a proxy war that started under the obama administration, where biden was vice president. trump said his bite his role as well. are mainly ukrainian regime and then we have biden with full blown proxy war of which has gotten extremely dangerous. no, there are ha beasley and indications that there is more fatigue for the donor class in the west and within ukraine. ha beasley. the casualty rate is kind of running out of min material in my hand, and by all accounts, even a friendly media towards dallas, with the landscaping, shame, low morale. but what does that mean when, if trouble comes in or hair is comes and explain to me what could be the difference
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or what new or is it just really part of the campaign? well, i think that some harris will almost certainly pursue the dividing policy. i think she will continue of funding this war. i know think she has any real ideas. i think she will just simply accept the kind of foreign policy establishment military establishment point of view as you might even escalate. you might even sign off on things that bite and it seemed hesitant to sign off on, such as lifting or restrictions on the use of long range missiles on russian territory. trump is, i think, a more interesting case because, you know, if we go back to what he really believes, i mean, you know, to go back date of the back it into in 2000 when he 1st contemplated running for president. he is always been a games of conflict of with russia this, you know, although some of the beginning he saw that this was a nato, was a real waste of money and a waste of time for the united states. 2016. he was clearly identified the trying
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that it is a real problem. it makes a lot of sense for us to wage war against russia, even a proxy war against russia. when china, it will be the major beneficiary and you, you'll have to sing that. that's what he's going to come in with is going to is he wants to endless more because china has to be the focus of america 2nd son. now that's a, it's a different questions as to whether he be able to pull this off. but i think that's going to be his, his initial goal, that to bring this war to a, as a speedy and as possible. if however he fails to do that, then i can see him going the other way, which is the mass of escalation. so it's very unpredictable, but at least with trump, there is a slight hope that is going to just they take the bull by. i don't want to just say right click, but let me just do whatever is necessary to bring this through it open immediate
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conclusion. it's interesting that you mentioned china because even from pre politics was all part b on china a whole of the time. i mean, it was really one of the 1st major public figures. not, not, not a political figure, but a public figure to um, to talk about that the money. and it was a recent interview. i think it was the last new cycle where a trump lamented how close russia in china has gotten. and that goes with george just said that he, that's, that's the, that's the price for him. and that is, may be the origin 0. we want it wouldn't, it would be good to get along with russia and from 2016. unfortunately, we have russia gate in between, i think it's almost an impossibility that he can go down the truck. i mean, there's so many avenues closed off for actually both candidates when it comes to the national security state dealer. well indeed, the little while is probably shouldn't piece clear it's wrong,
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but you're absolutely right. yep. you know, george was absolutely right. what would she oh, okay. why does be want to, oh i does, she pretends to want to do, i have the quote like video crana and russia in order to concentrate on china. so thought a lot hybrid more with china ro we have what i want to know. mine is brushing piece even wrote and if it's the that's dredge, you know, i think the, the power is comes before she can law resolve the ukraine because she is, i'm sort of, she's a corporate, you know, she wasn't bought at least fully above all by them support do you see which led to the school and we've invested by to be sponsored for more than 2 years. so she could not turn it back on with a 0. again, the stage during the looks that into, into a corner. united states, the north and brand east. uh, uh, what happens uh,
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with these, uh, uh, with these page or their whole full books. you may need to because is the 1st use of household devices here with a process it's, it's something like that, you know, where impulse or chemical weapons southerly. every long becomes a more of a, you know, a volunteer a boat to, to is a sutherland, terrible death around the globe. because now we see that these, these can be used to gauge fuel. once again, it's very much right then both of them to get above the, the other states as a, you know, they already, uh, they already, uh, invented tumor, 20 minutes about you agree that they connected to ukraine to modules they, if you want idea a logical investment to leave without so uh, basically they did use the radio with you both in your brain and it is what it is called the sun cost fallacy. that's exactly are exactly right. you know,
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charge on the margins and, but of course right now in american politics be what the do walk away party do awfully, margins matter a lot. and for so it's really quite interesting. we look at pennsylvania in michigan, wisconsin, minnesota. the genocide is on the ballot for her and many um, um um muslims, um, hair and air. the americans who knows that could flip the whole script. i mean, the more you look at it, it least potentially it's there and that will have implications possibly. and then maybe you have to hope guys last, then you will see when genocide is on the ballot, you better pay attention to the electric. i'm, i'm looking at, you might have future trump administration. i may be, you know, hollowing in the woods here, but we'll find out if it makes a difference. george. so i think that's right. i mean, is they, would we make these calculations?
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um, for a la to night. it's looking like um, trump will carry the sun belt states, so it's all going to be down to the 3 blue wall sites, the great lake sites, michigan, pennsylvania, wisconsin. the calculation is if tropic, so one of them the trunk is president. if harris wins, all 3 that have is as present. now, all of the 3 left focusing very much on pennsylvania, but michigan could be the guess the sleep. but that because it's that this is very significant, there's a very significant loss of them. an arab american population in michigan, they were ready made their feelings, claim the very upset about the, the bite the ministration. now, the democrats have been saying that, oh, well, but trump would be was that's always the go to argument. oh yeah. yeah. when, when you may know of like what vide mattress did, but trump would be was. but that's not a convincing argument because as
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a trunk was, it was, you know, we have 4 years of trunk and we didn't have anything like this in the churches. it's like saying, you know, this person is committed murder, but this, this guy might commit murder. i mean, i was, yeah, i'm sorry. i mean, by till 2 people, not just one person you might deal to that exact of, that's the argument. and it's not a very convincing argument, and that's why the, you know, number of these, um, yeah, mostly men, arab leaders of come out to, in support of trump. and they remain will be a game, a very rational calculation. the come could just come in and bring this to, and that's really, it doesn't really need, you know, whole this uh, a pack and zion is money is not running your room with got office to be a lane is only a guy who is down. he doesn't need maria models or name or either he's, he's involved. so he might come in and say, you know, feel ready. you're going to be, he doesn't have any particular attachment to israel. i mean it's, it's was always
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a kind of transaction real thing. he needed the money because he's been very short of money compared to the demographics. so once he's in power, it's quite possible that he might rethink this and think about his historic legacy is the bringing piece to the movies because he's never about remember the fact that brock obama gotten a nobel peace prize and he didn't. okay, let me go demo um, you can talk about american presidential politics in for the 3rd cycle now without talking about russia. so when he's rushing meddling in this time around getting the election that be as obvious here, of course of joking. but, you know, now there's no rush to see this election. do they have a dog in this fight or every single present? it is the same when it comes to american foreign policy towards russia. oh, i think a, it is a part of that huge, huge, disappointing development that we have seen. so i think they did ages. so there was
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really huge jobs to uh, resolve the conflict between russia and do that to states russia and europe. there was a lot of goodwill on the sign of raw sheets. amazing pro. rushed to people despise the table. probably because we were isolated from the west of media when you know the full school is take a trip that exist united states and europe. and even then use the, it's been your against us. uh we would be, would have driven over back the world. and the in the, like, if any of the follows. it seems to russians that they do is actually really, you know what, it was very, really what is pretty decent when she helped the night that stage, you know, gave us the 1000 a month after the 91130 is that there's 4 quotes in. it looks like very, very, really school support them. now, if we support them in, you know, guess what,
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they're going to see. well, hold on. people that they have much was a name is the last, you know, look at these a username is various. so what they did to washington and 2 dogs and what was amazing was that the americans, at least they're making the lead given load just that, you know, they, they, they, chris, it, they, the portal if you base something continue with the same for c. disregarding they were wanting, there's not a single rush, it could be that the thermostat could do, but this is not a single sir. about the security people, what's the roster? it's insureds is much great. the security against the cartridge, which we're all really connected to the terrace, but they're actually inside the united states. several of these congress out of beach to us at lights. so uh well, little by little losing patients by the way, to becoming more, more disappointed. but there are a steel russians who will some kind of change it as a link who is a diplomatic solution? well, the ukraine impulse,
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that is there is what the majority of already set it on this program hope dies last . okay, right. this is our last program before the presidential election. i'm sure, next time the 3 of us be we'll be talking about the implications if they've are, if, if they're not having stop counting ballots, but that is in 2 weeks time, we will see. all right, gentlemen, i'm going to take my guess in budapest ads in moscow and of course of what i think our viewers for watching and see in our to see you next time. and remember across that groups the, by the early 1950, can you became one of the centers of resistance to colonialism if africa,
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the british invaders infringed on the most basic, right. so the local population, great britain pursues the policy of squeezing out the local population from their indigenous lands. the best airable areas were given to white farmers dooming canyons to poverty and hunger. this caused the sharp protest of the peasants 10 less to the emerging of the mile mile movement, which started the bite against the invaders. the rebels called themselves canyon, land and freedom army. the spiritual leader of the movement with the anti colonial activist joe mo kenyata, the freedom fighters used guerrilla tactics and attacked individual units of the british troops. the latter responded with massive air rates and artillery effect. when suppressing the uprise of london relied on maximum cruelty over $50000.00 canyons were killed. about 300000 people were thrown into prisons and concentration camps, where tortures in no way inferior in girl z to the nazis was widely practiced. the
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