tv Cross Talk RT November 6, 2024 1:30pm-2:01pm EST
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some old song, so that is how the previous administration, so i don't have any hop the hopes of the comp. oh route to some block pro russian. differently position of the russian federation to defend its interest, especially in the conflict tougher crane. it's important so all, well, that statement that we could finish the war by a couple of telephone calls eventually. uh would be, you know, and the best to, you know, good visuals. i think we have to be patient to see 1st of all, what would be a real steps? mold the proclamation or, you know, nice words, but what would be a real actions of new administration, thoughts, dual credit for crane or from being the most prosperous and industrial. hotlines of the old soviet union become a most porous and d, and just realized and failed nation states and here. so this is
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a war to west policy towards the conflict. it was rational, looks like saw what they can expect and what they want to do. because it's very simple, as a crane has no voice on its future. destiny is they just blindly of realizing the plans and you know, if you're not fit, stay just to tell them through jobs usually to grant in the legal president tools of how higher have to job. and this is an issue. so mean rush of have to really, you know, a chief all goals was put on this special minister operation, and i have no doubt that there is will be no negotiation on reach of rush. all has to compromise its own security and most important jo, political stability as well as well as continues to react to what's being called the police. i told as long as i live trumps re election, make sure you stay with us for more analysis that with
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the the hello and welcome to cross stock were all things are considered. i'm peter lavelle . it goes without saying the bite and foreign policy has been an unmitigated failure. on this edition of the program, we count the many ways how the world is more on stable and dangerous all on forest errors, the prospecting biden's, legacy. i'm joined by my guess, larry johnson in tampa. he is a managing partner for burg associates, a former c i, a analyst,
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and us state department counterterrorism official in columbus. we have missed the winston. she is an activist and host of action for assigned and in lake county we crossed to anthony. so by penny he is chairman of the lake county republican party . alright, cross lock roll is in effect. that means you can jump any time you want. and i always appreciate larry, i'm going to ask you a question. i want you to take as much time as you need to answer. i'm very patient here. the name, the foreign policy achievements of the by the administration. again, you have as much time as you want, as well as the actually there are several hits have been a very consequential present presidency. number one, he brought about the unity of russia and china the prior to the start of the special military operation. the notion that russian china, it'd be collaborating in a, in an intense way. nobody really thought of it. now look at them. he's health dot ease hilda rift. the separate suny and she a sooty and she of,
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we're not cooperating. now you got actually from austin hezbollah, cooperating to try to oppose the as really genocide. so when he started looking at it, his chaotic policy is actually producing some things which are changing the world of changing the world. the way that the united states is going to be left out, missy larry brings up a obviously my question was facetious, but he gave us a very pragmatic and i think a good overview. i mean, one of the remarkable elements of dividing foreign policy is the lack of any pretence to real diplomacy. it is astounding that these the, as larry mentioned, the special military operation in ukraine. but on the part of russia could have been easily avoided. the russians asked to and have it to avoid it. be avoided, but that didn't happen. it's really extraordinary. i don't know. what is anthony blinking been doing except for getting, you know, a frequent flyer miles, i guess i'm mystified by go ahead miss. be. yeah, no. and larry, i have to say,
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i appreciate your ability to see the positive through the chaos because it was a great answer. but yes, i think that you're right peter, there has been absolutely no attempt at diplomacy on any level at any stage of any of these complex. right. and there's certainly more than one of ukraine situation is obviously, i think maybe one of the bigger ones that we're dealing with currently. but, you know, there's stuff going on all across the globe. and the binding administration has, it's almost is that there are allergic to diplomacy as if it's something that they couldn't even conceive of. and so yeah, i mean, and the blinking is the kind of a known warm longer and come back. so it's not surprising to me that this is how he's conducting him also how the binding ministration is moving throughout the world. but i think that that is really going to be what the bite and legacy is, is you know that kind of a deal political chaos and obviously genocide, i think that there is nothing the body to ministration will be known for more than the genocide and i think both on both accounts, it's good business for at least some people and shareholders and some companies like that is a really dreadful um, uh,
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explanation why the buying administration is doing its good for business. okay. americans are dying. it's really, it's very dark. it's very morbid, you know, a, anthony, you know, one thing that bind, we'll say, is that he expanded nato under his watch. we'll look with nato expansion has done. it is made the world far more unstable us russia relations will that will not recover in my lifetime, but that's for sure. but these are tensions that could have easily been avoided. i mean, you know, i, i'm not here to be a booster for donald trump, and he did say, well, it wouldn't be bad to have a better relationship with russia. i still think that's a good idea. go ahead, anthony. sure. well, i mean, listen, you know, obviously trump became popular, you know, arguing, i think, correctly, that we should reform our own relationship with nato to an extent, but bite in systematic failures across the, the, across the board. actually, i think affected the political opinions of americans more on the new thinking of
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nato. i mean, americans now look at nato and they see what's going on in russia. they see our heavy handed involvement and they think, well this is really just a waste of our time. it doesn't really help america and the material and direct way . and so therefore maybe we should be thinking differently about that. so i would say his failures actually moved public opinion on a better front when they came to our relationship with nato. you know, larry a bite and came in being a, a, the, the adult in the room. i, for a foreign policy specialist about 50 years. i mean, this is what he gave us here in many ways. he is a product of, uh, the, the intel community of a deep stay, the administrative, whatever you want to call it. i mean he, he really did a dance to their tomb, didn't they? but he's, he's always had a reputation for being a bit of a bully. i did testify beforehand when he was chairman of the florida relations committee in the senate. uh, but it's about 20 years ago. um and uh, you know, back to him when he was still sort of mentally confident. uh, he had a way to,
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you know, he chats you up as sort of regular joe, you know, the, the, the, the guy from the coal fields up. but, but what we, what we've seen with this administration is so, so troubling pipe. i spoke with the subject, a rip call the deputy for administer a year ago, december in moscow. and he was genuinely perplexed and alarmed that he said, who do we have to talk to of russia, dirt throughout the, the soviet union period of the cold war when the united states. and the soviets almost came to a nuclear war and the cuban missile crisis, when the soviets were providing military aid to the north vietnamese and enabling them to defeat the united states. during all of that tension in the united states. and this and the russians were still taught, they were come conversing,
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they were negotiating substantive agreements. now we're in a situation where there, there is no adult conversation at the top. and that's what makes it so, so dangerous, you know, misty this either larry is absolutely right. there was a element of pragmatism, but here this is this form you can but purchase signalling and invaded foreign policy. it's a purity does call. we can't talk to you because you're not pure like we are. i mean, the look what that's turned out for all of us here. mean the world is fundamentally far more unsafe, unsound, with the last 4 years. well, and the 1st that, that is to be the united states of america and to think that you are the moral superior of any one, is astonishing to me. we have no right to be finger wagging at anybody. we are one of the worst forces on planet earth and we are occupying the glow. we're destroying several countries. currently. we're involved in a couple of genocide. i mean, we certainly don't have any room to be finger wagging of water. we're putting our
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literal, literally, anyone else. and so i think that, that is what is i think, really, i agree with larry. very disturbing is the idea that there isn't even conversations being had. and again, you know, you say you don't want to be like a booster for trump nor july, but i think it's really interesting to point out how grotesque do you have to be. yeah, to make donald trump look like the piece. all 3 makes absolutely. i mean, anthony, one of the things that we've learned that there are absolutely no red lines. i mean, you know, we, can, we use the case of ukraine contemplating a new killer exchange with rush. i mean, where did that come from? mean when i was brought them say that's the conversation you never want to have, but then this, the defense department, state department just kind of casually. oh no, they won't do it either way. you know, and they're bluffing. you are you why should we be in a conversation where even thinking about if the other side is bluffing, this is absurd. go ahead, anthony. yeah, obviously i think that the binding ministration had a very skiffs, a friend, competitive products, the foreign policy. they're divided party and, and really hadn't okay,
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heard philosophy from the beginning all the way through the end. and i think one of the factors that help to increase that sort of, of, of just messed up an incoherent foreign policy. ready as a jo, biden's, domestic and popularity, because when you're so unpopular that your own party denies you with nomination, what now looks to be sort of like a cool or back door deal. it's impossible to get a for leader to take you seriously. i mean, it wasn't even like you was going into an election in a close election. he was guaranteed to lose and then basically lost the confidence of his own party. i mean, we haven't seen that since basically, johnson. and so, you know, it's gonna affect your foreign policy. no one's gonna make a serious or long term commitment with a foreign leader with an american leader. if you know that that's the way it's being dealt with at home. well anthony, i mean, it's pretty hard. it lists in my mind when someone like biting says the democracies on the ballot and when there was no democracy of his own party where he was the throne, he was code. he was stabbed in the back. and but the,
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they still talk about democracy. i mean, this is the most, the, the way we got a democratic nominate was the most on democratic one and in my lifetime, for sure, maybe the entire history of the presidency. go ahead, anthony. it's yes, it's unbelievable. and it happened right before our eyes, but of course the, you know, mega. yeah, i'm a media super pack, basically coded it in different languages and presented it to the american people in a different way. and so therefore people are so apparently ok with it but, but it all happened over the course of about a week. we all remember that, you know, somewhere early in the summer they just made the decision. he wasn't gonna be the president any longer, or at least phenomena. and so that was it. and it's fascinating. i'm hoping to see, you know, maybe an expos, a, or a post binding presidency book that actually tells what really happened behind the scenes. but we'll have to wait for that. you know, larry has by been the, the um, the captain of his own ship. has he been directing foreign policy or is it just a vessel because, i mean, we knew back in 2020. well,
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there wasn't much going on there with that guy. and now, 4 years later, who's running american foreign policy? or that's, that's been the question that every body around the world world leaders are asking who's, who's run in the shop? because they, they, they've seen biden and his, um, you know, early stages of dementia and the fact that he really is not mentally there. and they wonder who's pulling the strings or all sorts of, of theories and hypotheses. is it obama? is it the clinton's? but clearly he's not in charge and setting the agenda, he has, he has been a figure, had any of his, a convenient figure had to remove when, when he completely blew up at the debate with donald trump. i mean, you know, we've been gas lighted for so long to believe that joe biden, he is, he has the mental acuity of albert einstein. well, that may be true in terms of alberta inside his current condition,
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highest tides that tonight. so if you have that, i mean, but the, but think the, you know, there's, there's a great ironing here is that he was anointed by obama. the voters didn't do it the i'm talking about in 2020. and so in 2024, he gets a nice in the back. i mean, it couldn't happen to a better guy. yeah, the, there was a bit of karma, $40.00 co washington dc carmen because you know, bite and, but, well, he's got a reputation going back for the, you know, sexual assault, terra read, who is uh, you know, in our tea contributor, she was, she was a victim of, here's something here we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion on biden's foreign policy. legacy. stay with allstate, the the
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across back were all things are considered. i'm peter the military mind you were discussing biden's foreign policy legacy. the okay, misty. let's go back to you in columbus on another issue that is on the agenda right now is the confrontation between the global south and the west. and that is, was engineered by the biting administration. i mean, if we, we have, and there's a variety of opinions on the meeting and important some bricks. and that's an important discussion. but if it is a reality that breaks is coming into its own, and it only could come into its own because of the very aggressive and diplomatic administration in washington right now under joe biden. i mean, joe biden is, is helping bricks flourish misty. yeah, that's absolutely true. and i mean, larry alluded to it earlier, this is a, you know, a problem of our own making of our own design. i think that we bullied the globe
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for so long that we've created these alliances out of necessity. i mean, these countries are, you know, kind of recognizing that they have a common enemy here in the common enemy is the united states of america. and i think that, that's really what we're witnessing here as these countries are recognizing that. and they're starting to realize that they're stronger together than they are part and they're coming together to kind of face off against us. and i think that we really have nobody to blame for that situation, but ourselves. as you mentioned, the job, i didn't ministrations been an incredibly on diplomatic, and it's not even just not. i think that the idea that we, you know, stroll into these countries and attempt to overthrow democratically elected leaders to install public dictators to steal their resources and to brutalize their people . and i think that that is a been r m l for a very long time, and we're now starting to recognize the ramifications of that, you know, and 31 i guess achievement. and i guess that i'm using that with the inverted comments here, is that under the bite in ministration. and they, we saw a massive migration of the neo cons into the democratic party. you know, you,
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you know, it, who would have thought that rachel mad out and, and would, would, would be entertaining like a victoria newland. and they were so gleeful, i mean, almost smug. and we have list cheney. but i remember not too long ago that the democrats loved to beat up on dick cheney and george bush. now they're invited into the fold. that's one of the accomplishments of the bite administration anthony. well, actually it's, you know, truly it's historically on points since the neo cons originally came from progressive left into the republican party insurer took it over. yup. you know, late seventies, early eighties and moved us in a much more intervention list, you know, interventionist, uh, you know, oriented direction. and so, uh, they swarmed towards wherever the levers of power are at the moment. and wherever they can exercise power over what it is they care the most about. which of course, is this messy on a re, say to, you know, intervention and taking over a reforming things in, in, in, in, in the image of america, you know, to,
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to whatever that means to them at that time. and so this is just another degree of that, and my bigger fear is that eventually they come back to the republican party and that you see people like connelly's arise. and these people in the republican party, common deering influence. again, people like mike, mike pay who i don't believe should have any role and republican party whatsoever. and so that's my hope. yeah, well, i might pompei, or should be in prison his where he belongs. okay. i mean, considering public knowledge and so it's well known that his machinations on trying to in the life of julian a size um uh, that's a, it's extraordinary. okay. but no, i mean he gets the bask around in public. okay. it's, you know, larry, what, what by did did was synthesize the worst elements of american foreign policy. he was the catalyst as well. i'm not sure he was a catalyst, per se. but again, when we looked at the, the,
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and the one hand from an american standpoint of american influence in the world, it can be viewed as wreckage. if from the standpoint of russia, china, and the global south, you can stand back and say, maybe there is a god because the united states has been weakened and it is, it is becoming more and more irrelevant. i mean, who would have thought that the u. s. navy, for example, could be driven out of the red sea by the who is these. yeah. which is in fact what has happened. that the reconciliation between saudi arabia and iran, carried out by russian china not the united states. so was, so what we see is the united states that at one time actually dominated the world dominated through virtue of its currency, the virtue of its perceived military power. but just like the wizard of oz 0, the little, the little short fat guy behind the curtain,
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the current has been pulled back. and all of a sudden the united states is neither as powerful or as influential as we have. let the world to believe. and we're the, i think we're, we're witnessing the birth of a new world order is to see that they've been med, larry. doesn't that make the us more dangerous because they see had gemini slipping through their fingers. and i think that's one of the reasons why they lash out so much me look what's going on. and george in moldova, i know that those are disciplined places for many viewers here. but you know, the machinations of the colored revolutions, they continue unabated. okay, and it's all about nato expansion. that's what it's all about. they hang their hat on democracy. look, it happened in molto, but i mean, hundreds of thousands of people were disenfranchised. but nobody mentioned that nobody mentions it at all. okay. you know, missed the one of the other things or they think that weeks is very apparent over the last few years. is it with anthony's already brought it up,
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is that you have large parts of the democratic party and granted probably put more progressive left that are, are, are in, in rage over what's going on in palestine and gaza. and then you have a lot of republicans also say backing donald trump's america 1st. i mean more and more people of the members of the electorate are rejecting this foreign policy. but it doesn't ever seem to really percolate up, does it know? and i think that the reason for that is because there is no, there's no where for those types of people to go to really influence power. and i think that that's just very indicative of our political culture there. i mean, it really is just the one party there. i mean, all of these people are owned and operated by the exact same donors, the exact same military, industrial, complex donors dix. i mean it's really across the board and there's some variances here. and there were certain journals will pick and choose and kind of hedge their bets and things like that. but generally speaking, the entire system is owned by these people. and so they're really serving the same agenda. and i think that we're starting to see people realize that and realize that
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there is no way to go. i think that's why we're seeing such a, a search and 3rd party support jo stein is doing very well in certain locations where, you know, like in michigan with a large muslim population due to the conflict, the genocide and also so i think you were really starting to see people come to terms with that reality. now how we come about that as a whole other set of circumstances because that's going to take a massive overhaul of the system or you know, it, we don't even really know what it will take. but i think that that is kind of a little glimmer of hope is that people i think, really are starting to recognize the game that's being played. and the fact that it is incredibly rig against people. you know, anthony, whoever is a dog you rated in january, well they look back at the bye, didn't ministration and look for lessons to be learned and to look for a different path forward or it will just be business as usual, as well. i mean, i think actually both candidates probably have something to learn from the failures or jo by them. i think you'll go down as one of the presidents who made the most
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amount of mistakes or had missed opportunities as a, as a leader on the foreign stage. and so i think that both did have a lot of takeaways, i think obviously trump's going to be quite different. but even commer harris and the people that she is going to keep or bring in, i think will recognize some of the mistakes. i mean, even job, i probably noticed that he really wasn't that effective and of a leader. you just can't admit that openly and probably as of yet. and that's sort of, that's why i think that's the historic sort of wisdom that you're good at. well, i mean, you know, terabyte and doesn't really have to worry too much because i think by january he probably won't remember most of his own presidency. so he, well, you know, yeah, it'll be easier for him. it'll, it'll, you'll be comfortably non, let's put it that way. larry, the same, the same question to you. i mean, what is the corrective here? because, you know what we have neil cons in capturing both parties. i, i know donald trump is a, has we has like j d band, so he's,
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he's contrary. but mike pump a always at the convention to i think so. i mean for me it's a mixed bag. go ahead larry as well. so again, we're witnessing the collapse of american leadership of the fact that we talent, moldova is a bit, you know, hey, we intervene and multiple people are going to do. i have black mold. well, my goal is to hold the middle of the country. so we failed the, the us corporate operation to over throw georgia that fail. so the united states is not having success anywhere in the world right now. and this entire rationale for expanding nato. you know why they expand nato. they need more troops because they don't have enough. the us is not recruiting enough, the british or when they got 70000 people. the same with the germans with the french. that's one of the reasons they keep expanding nato. if we go back and look at the start of the special military operation,
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ukrainian army as it was constituted, it was a defacto nato force. was the largest army in europe. yep. yep. and probably the most competent you haven't been trained by nato. yeah. it's just defeated and that is weighing heavy on on the west. what are the benefits for by this dementia? he forgets and he will remember, he'll be a very happy soul. i'm those come january. you know? yeah, i absolutely agree. um, but miss the we, you know, it again, depending on what is the administration here, we could see something like victoria new and show up again we could, we could, we could see this change show up again. i mean, these people are like a bad cold. you just can't take it, go ahead, just be yeah, i mean, less than the cost of characters that are being presented to us on either side is reprehensible and disturbing to say the least. as you mentioned, my pompei or the fact that donald trump is even mean calling him out on stage at
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a rally to get a round of applause for mike pump here. that doesn't really went a lot of confidence to mean. you know, donald trump, supporters will very often claim that, oh, he didn't know the 1st time around he was tricked by the deep state. he's going to get it right this time and now he's out here crossing around with my come pay or getting your right. we could see the likes of victoria new and we will likely see was cheney um, so the cast of characters that we are being presented with, regardless of what happens here should terrify everyone really haven't missed the the only way we're going to see a new cast of characters, and i mean that in, in a, moving into the future, not this one election cycle is what larry has been telling us is that failure when you're, when, when it, when failure will finally start settling in is that we've got to start thinking of working with people, maybe reinvent diplomacy, which was part of american history. it's absent right now. so i, i think that you know, this cast, these cast of characters are just a play gone. our house go ahead. last 20 seconds. go ahead. misty. yeah, no, i absolutely agree with you and i think that that's uh, we're not,
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we're not far from that, but it really how we get there is that it could be a really bad scene for a lot of people, i think unfortunately. all right, we're gonna see what's gonna happen with the election in january. i'm gonna ask all 3 of you to rejoin me, we'll reassess what we had to say and we'll move forward from there. that's all the time we have. i want to take my guess in tampa, columbus and lake mean, of course, i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our team. so you next time, remember prospect the
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is the loan ship. this special military operation load in $13000.00 far less than the race of joining the ukrainian military. we williams, lot of things are good enough to stop growing up. i mean, you need for 2 of us doing the with any of them or to surely cuz it was trustworthy . which my friend build for the fine you is fine. yeah. the, the but if the, yeah, that the at the end of the was it is i didn't know that you know, for your state of mental breakdowns gets to the doctor. so as a minus time, you're ready to cover the painting from the font. soon as the sean you into the con soon of use that to find out from the excess on top of the field of worship. glove means it is so slow because see and use that as a beautiful supervisor, flor should weigh enough fluid as she knew. also like you strong enough,
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listen to the federal grants and the physical and that's the come back a is complete. donald trump is set to become the next president of the united states again, as well to be. republicans stays excited. the old important 270. i like to college so our country is never seen before and nothing like his and his victory space. the president likes applied to any of the rules involving the u. s. military. all he looked into whether that basically like change and washington is options around the world with a trump side ministration. preparing to define u. s. foreign policy. for the rest of the decades. the international community begins to react with heads with countries and organizations across the globe.
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