employed their allies for ethical uses and it's not the 1st time the us military has shown an interest in a like the real world consequences of the policy or unclear. last year, the intercept reported that opening i was unwilling to say whether it would enforce its own clear military and warfare band and the face of increasing interest from the pentagon and us intelligence community. given the use of ai systems in the targeting of civilians in gaza, it's a notable moment to make the decision to remove the words military and warfare from opening eyes permissible use policy. the language that is in the policy remains vague and raises questions about how open a i intends to approach enforcement. this all comes as the pentagon is quite, we were moved to bond on hiring people using a like a september 30th document with a he's out to us after team come out for offer comes reasons for buying a technology from microsoft. an interest in either part limiting to violent use of a i was removed later version us africa, me operates in a dynamic and evolving environment where i t plays

a critical role in achieving mission objectives. yusef recall must expand to continue its vital mission and support of african mission partners and us africa. i'm joint exercises, so it seems to us as rapidly shelving it. so the invitations on the use of a i to her human beings. maybe it's the fact that these rallies have been using a guy. so during the mass killing of civilians, maybe it's the fact that the chinese are racing ahead and developing their own open source a platform. so either way, it's only taking a single year to move from not harming people to selling to us military, which in the past, how's the need of any help in carrying out its gwen business abroad? well, not wrap this up, this new. that was the type of company with us here on all the international outlets across tool with pizza and about we'll be back in just on the 30 minutes the,

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coming? trump administration is set to inherit a foreign policy mess of epic proportions. the conflict in ukraine and the genocide and palestine conventionally to will the binding team intentionally make things worse? to discuss these issues and more, i'm joined by my guest, george semi wiley in budapest, he's a pod cast or the goal which can be found on youtube and locals and, and assemble. we have teddy cuz the real a model is a historian and political commentator. right, gentlemen, cross that girls in effect, that means you can jump anytime you want, and i always appreciate it. all right, let's start off with george in budapest. i'm sure donald trump is very pleased with himself. his supporters are so pleased with himself, probably that just about at this point here. but george, he inherits a farm policy catastrophe in many ways. okay. um wait it very likely. within a couple of months he will be called uh, genocide. donald um, uh, he's a man that can't and wars and what the,

the way that could happen is that the vitamin ministration sets a mine field in front of them. we have to remember the obama people did that to drum when he was coming into office in january of 2017. they know how to do it. they know how to make things worse. if they can't, when they're going to make sure donald trump can't win either george, your thoughts? i agree with you being so i think this is the most dangerous moment with 2 months to go before he um takes the oath of office. um we already read in the previous months that like uh, i would go and buy the ministration is going to trump proof a number of spa. this is kind of the weather is going to trump prove other policies in the middle east and the policies in ukraine and the ukraine war is really to bind the ministrations baby. i mean this is, this is a, this is, it's, it's signature balls there. so it's not just going to allow

a trump to walk in and say like i'm just going to bring this to an end and then i'll do the peacemaker. and you know, with my nobel peace prize, please. um, so they go to makes things as difficult as possible, which means that i think they go to try to escalate thing that we already have. you will already have stories that the by and has signed off on the, on most similar is in the american bus and there is a new crane. but that's where we've already known that our america, most of it is essentially means the united states is going to send most of the reason of it. this is going to be an actual policy of getting as many of x. yeah. so it was month into the ukraine as possible, and i think the next step will be that they will take off or restrains on the use of uh, long distance. somebody size uh, in, in ukraine its resolving trunk can do about it. um, and as you mentioned about, um,

uh, obama and his outgoing days. um those sounds income could do. he basically will tumble, set in motion, rush or gate by, by making all these ridiculous allegations about, um, uh, russian. i haven't begin to see it in the us selection and then like spelling russian diplomats and um, seizing russian consulate and imposing sanctions. which way the trucks hands were tied almost from the beginning. if he, if he follows through, then it's uh then relations a very bad. if he goes against the, you know, actually denies this, then he seems very weak and this will be prove. but he's a russian agent, something like this is going to be in the words hit these, the book of various already, d, v as a nasty teddy goes focusing on the brain is george has here. um escalation is the only way forward for the bite and administration because then essentially then it isn't admitting defeat, which it does not want to do. and that is a kind of

a bi partisan thing. we of course it is a biking is war, but what i personally kind of extrapolating from what george said is that you know, more long range missiles. i'm of the more leeway for the, for the regime. and in kids to um, embrace shade itself to nato howard's etc, etc. and trump will just be in a situation, or if he wants to deescalate, he looks week, it looks like he's booked and scrap it. i mean, there's the binding ministration can make this really, really part you know, dot com. i think i'd agree with both of you on large, dividing that ministration and the deep state elements that the but my lawyer to it and the media the to remain lawyer to, to try to, to. i agree, but i would take a step back and ask about how much they can and that i, i'd be more cautious. but i think trump isn't

a much stronger position than your boss. and as for us to trust a 40, as now video of a powerful mandate, he may get to try fact he made it without the respect to me. he has no power right now. he has the prestige. okay. you got intact how he can not tell the vitamin, okay, who the hell do anything until i come into power point 8 and that's, that's what i was going to address next. what kind of binding is does really stairs do? that's the question. we have to ask and we can talk about mercenaries and we can talk about language besides twice. but you know what both of us and mom came, change us. we have known this for a long time. and the only saying that both of them would produce is more rushing hospitalization against ukraine, and probably even more or less than military advances. so it's not lived suddenly to bite in. this does have says magic wand, the switch to the can defeat device. so as to have another little but i think that

was the point. there was i, i think you're all pets. we in agreement because what i think that in the waning days of this administration, i'm directing this to george right now is a defeat is inevitable, but it will be trumps feet, not bibles to be. that's what they want to do. i. i agree either. and i think this is what's so important here. what are the a bite, the ministration people really want is that this will, is going to be wrapped around the trunk neck. on january the 20th, within 2 hours of trauma stating that those of others, everyone is going to turn on trump as a, this is your wor, this is look, look, all these terrible things that are going on. this is on you and, and, and this is the trunk will be that a very much boxed in because if you know, i think he will try to book full with some kind of a piece plan. i mean, the been all these base plans that have been floated in the media and, you know,

we were getting the, sort of the outlines of it, which is everything freezing the frozen in place. and then we get this, the 800 mile demilitarized zone, which will be man's or by the european noise made. so countries a service man which seems as if it doesn't sound like a very good deal, a tool and then um, and then suppose that they will then the question of the nato membership of ukraine will be put off for 20 years. now, if that is roughly what trump is thinking, then i don't think is of it or it's a go, because i don't think there's anything really here that will particularly appeal to rush up. there's nothing here to which will appeal to ukraine. now, the question is, what, what does come do then? i mean, if, if he busts, what would this be? his plan? there are no, it's a, it goes, what does he do then? and as in great danger, there is a, i don't, you know, he's going to escalate you then he will essentially go, okay, well then, you know,

i, i did then my best i booked this for what i'm going to see. and gonna essentially go back to the drawing board. oh, well, let's see if we can escalate. that's likely to bring the russians to then the goal, shading people. so i think that somehow because of this piece, but i think is the, is that the it doesn't fly, then we're all going to get back on the escalation. we are going to be back on. this will be absolutely blamed on trump and truck for thing because of the bushes domestic agenda is going to be a very unpopular president very, very quickly in that setting. i think that george, no, i said good something the device will be sending a theory of the case. i don't think it's george theories. okay, good. but, but i disagree with the theory entirely, frankly. i the degree of, of support that this type of piece plan that we have been feeling leaks about like the fact to a made to piece keep us from europe, not from america plus 20 years, some all of that stuff. that's all the bullshit. i totally agree. unable in fly be

know that. but i disagree with what happens next, because i don't see trumpet escalate in ukraine. absolutely not. this would only happen if trying pencil before the policy basic get to my pale and as a neo cons, that remains to be seen. i think from anywhere is much keen on being aggressive towards china and a st. trump as internalize the idea that if anybody gets to escalate and ukraine and candidates the pins. so if drums please plan for this, i think the next step from the trump administration would be to say, you know, up process to know what london, you know, what probably, and you'll know about boss. so you know what, politics, it's your baby now. and he would act to see if that embarrassment to them. and i have to come back to the fact that trump has been talking about ending to ukraine, bought the this electric company has been quite volk for

a company and about that. so he knows he has backing for doing that. i really don't think trump sits the and i will use a root expression is shifting his ponds about being burdened 50 feet in ukraine. i really don't think that's true. i don't seem to be boxed in in that way. that's very interesting. but george, i mean, again, you know, and we've heard this all are like, you know, who los china, who lost russia, who lost ukraine and that, that's going to be very powerful. and, and, you know, even though his mandate is a, is a clear and though, um, you know, what does it mean to landslide victory for him? um, this is gonna be uh, a brick wall that he's going to hit, you know, t. well, he gave up the russians one, etc. nato's at stake. now, this is what he wanted to do, destroy nato. we could see we could easily go on what they're going to um, uh, a painting with. okay, the meta anymore that's registered in alton narratives. the metal floor rate to my

adults. but does it matter any more that so we have just a deficit. the georgia is the intelligence community matter, as well as soon as they do, and i think that, i mean, i think don't to reach raising a very good point. i mean, he, you know, he's the says, yeah, look in trump once live in this while he doesn't see russia as an enemy. the people around trunk of easy me gets circle one through in this war. that makes sense. but then yeah, you, you still got late intelligence and the security app are you still got the, the whole got the washington and the national security bubble. and they're going to absolutely resist this policy. and, and, and is this like, the, the, you know, there is the question of who lost the ukraine. i mean, you know, basically, if, if he just does, does this, you know, the, you know, and get, it gives up on the ukraine. and so says, hey again, well, this, this list will,

is lost, the repercussions are, are enormous. i mean, the repercussions will nato, the repercussions for of foot, for the whole transatlantic alliance will be in, you know, was trouble. and the find is now we have to think of that, you know, is trump such a bold, imaginative person who say, okay, yeah, i want to completely transform of the, the geo political scene. you know, it doesn't, there's not, there's no evidence 11. the trump does indeed want to undertake these very bold steps. you know, you know, we, we saw him and during his without, okay, i'd have for him to have jump in here gentlemen. we have to go to a hard break. and after that hard break, we'll continue our discussion. i'm so real in stay with our team. the other many places in the world's way to say your on the divide between the 2 oceans

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a lot of steam at the end, the end of the 1st block there. i want you to let the rest of it out. go ahead. well, i think with the truck, you know, is it showed, i mean, well, you know, when he was that he's boldest and most imaginative, which was in 2015, 2016. he really didn't do very much. now we can say, oh, well, that was then he's going to do some of those things differently. this time, that'd be willing to take this uh, the bold, imaginative steps. maybe, but he hasn't given any indication of an elvis during this campaign. he's what he talked in very, very vague terms about so that the well will the will when you agree. and that wouldn't happen if i've been president. and so he's good with no indications that he is ready, essentially to re think being time late, those structure the entire trans atlantic islands, which is clearly it does need re thinking it does need to be dismantled. but trump doesn't get a given the signing, but that's where he wants to go. i think he does things that he g as a,

as is personality, is a, is a bali and can just simply bind heads together and get a deal with donald look. but don't think you still through what, um, how you do this and, and the, you know, and so you know, when the realize it or just of the vacations of this. yeah, i'm petty. i mean, we've all seen the leaks and obviously intentional leaks this goods and drabs and things. and i think all 3 of us would agree, it doesn't really make any sense because of the, the most important element that is missing is that, well, what did the russians actually think about it that's never taken into consideration? and if you, i think all 3 of us in our view, our viewers know, then rush who wants to carry it, they can only have piece of it has security. and that's something that's not part of the western. they can't equation. as a matter of fact, the binding and it's jason's ultimate goal and it's last month it's, it's just to keep it going on and it's not to win. it's just to keep it going. and

that is a winning recipe in washington in brussels. go ahead study. no, i mean can i say 2 things look for so far? i agree, the fuels that trump is in danger of being the target also who lost you credit narrative. but don't forget, american politics also have some narratives about who brought us into. and they can be quite powerful if you think about the vietnam war. all right, it's an open question to me, what's more powerful? who lost it, and also got us into vietnam. actually, if you think about transfers to that smelled over look that he actually did makes the decisions that led to brandon. lindsey, i've gotten this done before, but it was done then later in a catastrophic fashion, the by the but trump actually paid for the delay for that. so be had a little bit of a precedent for him being capable of not simply being a slice to what people leave behind to in the as i said,

once again is i think he's much less afraid of also, of republicans now the sort of international is being of the republican party has been destroyed, this is very important. is less afraid of the media is less afraid of the other branches of government. even actually shapes the to disagree it once again, any help i'd we could don't saying we can conclude what you did to my surprise. we can conclude from what he did in his 1st time to the 2nd. although i agree with george that the also have very little to go by vanity tried to guess, but he moved to the 2nd or ever one saying i would i do. it's not going to be very similar to him, but i think it would be very different. uh i, we were all of agreement that georgia also the issue of, of what's going on in, in gaza palestine and to extrapolate out in room. and

this is something that, um, you know, we, we, we were led to believe. i assume it's true that um the net and yeah for government is overjoyed. and having donald trump, richard to the white house. now we, we will find out one day to what degree, the anti genocide, pro palestinian, whatever you want to call it, the voters impacted the election. i think it did it. what was it meaningful? was it determinative? i don't know um, but that's on the agenda that that is a red line for many, many people. the majority of people, the death of the in the democratic party, up also a large percentage of the republican party call it for what it is. it's a genocide, like i said, in the beginning of the program genocide, joe can easily turn into genocide donald george. but i guess i could just have the address a couple of the things that the but the reset 1st is true that the trump said in train the, the biden's exit from i've got a song, but the fact is,

trump didn't follow through on that. it's a getting from add these, you know, piece making impulses, but they didn't follow through. he also said he was gonna withdraw from syria. he didn't fall as early as 53, and he bumps up and then, and on ukraine. he went and did something that obama didn't want to do. he started sending lisa weapons to ukraine. so you got to set that up on the other side, which is that, well, you know, he had these and vicious ideas that he would be the peace maker. but if i keep pursued the opposite pauses, that's why i think that, you know, this what happens when he presents his piece plan, you know, i, you know, maybe he's going to, so that's it. okay, i'm going to pull the plug on ukraine, but he may go the other way and say, well i, i presented this beast blank. russia didn't, didn't go for it. and so, you know, now's the time to escalate. but just to return to your point, i gave you the, the, the original genest, joe will become genocide dong in no time. the toilet gates you will absolutely

be hit with the, with, with the responsibility for everything. every time somebody gets shut off, every time you get a refugee camp that's destroyed every, every baby buns will be on the trunk. and if you don't let, and the apple takes, you know, trumps to victory as hey, that's a, that's a green light that i can do whatever i like. but then again, this will be on trunk and then and then what, what is going to the is it is trump going to try to rein him in speech and tries to do that. the of course, the game quotes on popularity. again the can do it. i mean, he, you know, he can, he can absolutely, you know, they, he does have a mandate as he gets here just as on, on the crazy to pursue a serious basement. he can absolutely. and then you're pull it, you know, ready to get tough on and that's in the yahoo question as will he do it will, will he really bite the bullet and pursue that positive?

i have a i don't know any kind of thing. it's very interesting. and this time from now to the now the ration day. um, do you see that? um uh, israel was escalating and demanding that the us go in and its defense visa be in around because this is a very, very delicate time right now. um, these railways are, are very keen political operators that i understand american politics very well and this interest period. i think it's a very dangerous time right now cutting on things is where it is a wrong part of american politics. money to them. but i agree, totally. and i also agree that george, that there is no hope. i think that trump, it'd be better in any way in resisting to gaza, genocidal and stopping the golf to turn aside which an american president could easily do if they wanted. i think it really to and from genocide joel to genocide

on that, i still think it was right to punish the genocide us who were in office. right. it was set to be punished and next time maybe do they have to punish trump? config can. but the issue is that you would talk about has to do with about difficulty wrong. i think most applaud. and there is, of course, the sense that trump is supposed to set to met on yahoo that would do whatever you have to do in essence. and that is where it is good, sees assessing coverage. going to attack yvonne again at this time, especially to go off to yvonne's nuclear installation. so at least the ones that can destroy, not all of them are easy targets. however, i think there's one flip side to this, which is i for you, you have to emulate to separate between easy giving the is a lease of we can also put you on it to you and see offering them u. s. support because i think it's possible that the trump messages go in and to avoid you have to do, but don't count on us. and that would be very different message because looks a,

is also a j d brains with actually come out and said that you don't want to follow up with you for on, i'm paraphrasing, but it was pretty much that what you said. and the one thing that comes out of nowhere trump is very nationalistic transaction, and he is stupid. i don't think he wants to be the next president for 5 spend in on was the waste football in the middle east on behalf of the is ladies. so that's i think that gets complicated, but then like i've read up meant to make it a bit george, i mean we've heard this before, 11 or mama was coming into office. there was a, a bombing campaign in gaza and the incoming administration said, you know, do whatever you gotta do, but have it over before we come into office and day before it actually came to an end. there's, there was it, there were rumors that he's actually said the same thing. do what you have to do, but wrap it up before i come into office. i don't know if these are these really so care, little, uh, biting. yeah. say, why would they care about what trump has to say george?

well, the problem is with that, well wrap it up before we come to bowers, i left point the road wrapping up. i mean is, is this really in a position to wrap it up because i don't think it is. i mean, i think it does really well in a position to wrap things up. it would have done it. i mean a, the actual, the attempt and all that happy about the will that's been going on for more than the year and then not able to wrap it up. which means that, you know, when, when trump comes in, that will still be ongoing. and then what does from do, you know, then again, you know, you cannot make an either the or continue with this. and therefore this is his genocide, the dom and or he can then try to, you know, essentially um, you know, blanket bite the bullet and, uh, and the stop and threatening to cover the lift in the well, no, i'm the show you can do this. there's also this, so as you mentioned, the uranium aspect to it that we've now had the southern indictments of

people who are allegedly where, you know, on the fascination plot communities existing in the, in the files of to around to the killed trunk and, oh, drivers which it does, does he take that seriously? is this something that these going to add to this, you know, gave me maybe he's going to be a very matter there, but the password was called. and when we saw this, the game is going to is that he does talk a good game and he makes all sorts of very, very sensible, rational. um, you know, 1st steps towards a sense of a policy. and then the doesn't do it. i mean it's a little bit of north korea. it is something know of the president there is a little made. this was a overtures you had these meetings um and with the north korean lead is and then nothing is just the just the died on the vine. so a game perfectly reasonable for him to actually do something that you know about the, about israel and the stop the, you know, israel just sort of, you know,

essentially a threatening black, bailey extolled things from the united states. but i mean, you know, human just simply not gonna be able to pursue, let them under the guns genocide dom well, we gotta find out if trump learned anything from his 1st german in it and understand the failures of the by the ministration until the end. gentleman, that's all the time we have one, i think my yes and assemble. and in budapest reports what i think our viewers for watching us here at our dc and next time. and remember across doubles the of the many places in the world where you can stay on the divide between the 2 oceans and all the might not think kids. what does this, hey, english is northern, are found your vision and the channels that are national parks and today's,

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