the, the, the hello and welcome to cross that bull horns were all things are considered on gabriel. about one of the most important victims of politics is personnel is policy . given donald trump's growing list of unorthodox appointments is difficult to discern what foreign policy, whose administration will pursue, change, or continuity discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guest, george samuel, we in buddha, betsy's a broadcast where the goggles, which we've found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow across to do me pre bob, which is deputy board editor, right, comfortable sky from the daily. or i generally cross the girls that it back. that means you can jump any time you want that. i always appreciate it. okay, well, take it off with georgia in budapest, you know, general and i was thinking about,

you know, how long we've been talking about donald trump. and i think it would be fair to say that in all 3 of us and many others have at least a bachelor's degree in from studies. maybe others have more advanced degrees. i think george, you may call to that category. so it should be incumbent upon us to try to figure out what the heck is this man doing because he's been in the spotlight about 10 years now. just think about that gentleman, 10 years, he's been the focus of american politics. so george, when we look at this about of, of appointments and we can talk about individual ones. they're just 2 things that they all have in common. loyalty to try them. and they seem to be all fanatical israel supporters. what else is going on here? george? oh yeah, you some of that up perfectly. exactly. that's the distinctive characteristic of all of these people. it is loyalty. it's a chrome and fanaticism about israel as some of them have come to fanaticism

about israel, of a relatively recent play of, for instance. um uh, the would be the director of the national intelligence. it's also yeah, but it was very critical of israel when she ran for president in um 2020 um. what else to look at lately? the farm far was the team and assume that they will pursue a whole kish foreign policy. it means eventually is the will like policy. it will, it would be very nice not to do so when you, with the point people like michaels, is your national security advisor. mario rubio is your secretary of state. and um, you know, the, the texas as your defense secretary, these are not people that you would expect to preside over a termination of wars. and now some people say, yeah, but it will be trump, who was the said policy of metro. it's the president was that's policy omeo and why

would you pick these people if what you had in mind was the, you know, the pursuit of peace. and the easiest way to think about this is, well, let's look at the issues like um, venezuela. oh china. and see about the cuba, what would you expect the steam to do because it was a while ago say they expect to uh, escalate against man as well. oh yeah. so like i expect them to escalate against china. so, um, what about iran bullet plus uh, gonna escalate against iran? well then, why is it then when we come to ukraine, the use of health things that they will pursue a, a peaceful policy on your credit. it doesn't really make uh, very much sense. and you would have to think that this from does not like more, a single can say, let's say if he, that he doesn't like, well, however, as this, during this 1st time, he hasn't quite figured out the steps you have to take to pursue peace. just simply

saying peace throw, strive really means very little entertainment. the judge brings up so many good points here. i mean, again, there's a loyalty to trump of wild loyalty and to, to israel. and then, you know, there are demarco ruby, those that are fanatical about been is way through a okay. and then you're going to have others that are still begrudging. russia, gators and china hawks and all that. i suppose trump can make the claim and we'll see if it hands out that he'll be in charge of his foreign policy and like he was in the, in his 1st term. so, i mean, it's really more and more uncomfortable and focused on one man because trump was, you know, they gave him the runaround when he was my president before. so i don't know if that's good news or bad news with the very reasons. and george says, i mean he's against the war but he doesn't know how to make peace, fema. well, that's exactly true. he doesn't want costly looks. i mean, he's not a gaze. she was that you were going to win easy, you know,

appropriate. so that the war against the wrong, the dad of sister would be such a war. but thank god, yeah, he in the and he decided not to go there about the primrose. com is that she doesn't quite understand who his and he was. and she goes to them, or rides wondering if there are no, you know, they're a special new guy. adults does that. they do it's avenue. that's that sounds the only person with the logic. yeah. and he is a new iphone keys. uh there is bossy garber. i mean, she went born in iraq. why? because she bo and you know why? because she sold the, there is desktop to $1001.00 and she is a single, typical religion. these seem to is. so she's absolutely right about is from, is not a about this one is being violent, you know, uh, organizing dairy stairs. and that is the fact that each one has been in cedar,

it seemed to people. and those are the groups impressed even fewer, but the appropriate lease for that that year. and so this altered liberal ideology, which is prevailing no indian by the administration in the or b a base people view a huge part of too many get, asking people what all the people, even in the sole goal focus is if you, if you listen to what uh, a bite is people and what the, the leaders of your being a congress to say about them very. got it somehow give you cause they will tell you what are the be awesome new email, a new image. tricky, and pure, ideologically healing. exactly. you know more apartment, you ask the your be in need to see if you was either level of course, developmental or not the gaze russians learn what they gains. the con gary is, but i don't think it is chinese. they just become democrats that have been able to do more with it, but that's exactly what these from us tell you about the those don't agree to those

. they just crept to convert 3 islam and them, you know, they will be regarded as solely equal thoughts. but obviously, god would want to walk into brock and she saw how that ideology. i mean that i was able to like look, it destroys people, you know, was lamps and greece gems just for the well, the safe, green g. so her position is very logical. she called herself in the morning days there is a and the dog in the was for, are you seeing change about the, you know, most of the war started by the united states. and by that is, it is your being i watch and by you do, these are what, what do you mean, jake, you know why the, what you see where it impacts the governor was absolutely right to say that it was i called grazing to the support the sources that you're at there was they supported, can see that they supported, you saw as a gaze president. awesome. and she was barely more different when she mentioned

with the 1070 there when she refused to apologize. what is there a fee or some just the reaction or what you were being brass and were being lead us to the appointment though? see bar but and if you are the people in the drums a, these patients, uh, let me just quote with some of the headlights is a, it's a reasonable concern. you know, the, this is why we saw this is why i saw that there was a woman in terms of these tracy global assess fees for piece of that. hang on there . okay. so you can jump into those that can just take a few questions and combine them for george here. well, a plus for chelsea gabbert is that she's not part of the foreign policy, blah. that's why there's so much resistance to her. and then there's the issue of qualification that's all over the place. well, look at the, by the administrative looking at his cabinet, of what qualifications do these people have? okay. i mean, it's really quite extraordinary. marco rubio, of a pete heck sets,

i mean was a t b increment roll. reagan was an actor. i mean, i'm on trying to denigrate or support any of these people here, but i don't really think this is the issue. it play qualification, stuart? no, it is that is one of these completely bogus arguments that people try that. why, you know, the, or the real issue is lack of qualifications to post us. they've got a big issue. she actually, so she served in the military. she has taken a consistent interest in matters of intelligence and secure at any rate, if you were to ask, well what's, what's the thing, what's issues are, i think it's been foreign policy, a critique of american foreign policy and intervention isn't. they probably won't be in the case, is that she will be the business of the co ordinating intelligence. so she wouldn't actually be running an agency. i mean, she'll be call aging information from lee and intelligence

a just as i'm presenting them to the president. but the people with the power will be the people who actually run the agencies. so this is that always be in charge of 18 intelligence ages where she wouldn't really be in charge of the agencies to adjust them to collect information presented to them and presented the findings to the president. so she wouldn't actually be in the policy making role of living, but that's, that's a on the cops that can use. the problem was the, the immediate national security team is, let's you know, then they want over the past few months to sound like chrome. exactly. we've decided this on the, you know, that, you know, those people say, well, yes, but, you know, my uncle rubio voted against the 100000000000 dollar package where you great and then the israel and, and he's a, yes, he did vote against that. but what was the reason the site,

the not all position to the policy on your brain, but the thing, well, it wasn't enough money for the border. you know, that's the, you know, the, it's the bought of also ruby and you that as what he calls that both then he would possible, well, mainly in the senate sort of a really didn't mean anything is all i get anything dependent on his vote. the same thing with the mike wills. well, so it's critique of the by the administration has been that it's not doing enough. it's it's, it's too soft on the, on the food chain. so when he also voted against the, is the sending more money to do, it wasn't because, you know, i think this is which we should really pursue based. bring this, knowing it is what levels really look well. the by ministration is already handling this properly search on it shouldn't be doing more is the way to be giving, setting out an agenda. so we telling us exactly what it's in terms of it's a cop out, is a hit. so it gets in this on this response just like this, like, you know, why am i on the problem is the lack of qualification, you know,

the person is lying and isn't telling you why he's opposed to something near to god remember before we go to the break here and the rest of gates has made its appearance again, apparently tells me it tells me gabbert is a including pocket. we heard this from a sitting member of hardware, so who used to be a spook or so. so rest of gates is also ins. id my not that surprising about that, but, you know, the idea, what would you just know? who is there night states. it is the 30 days because, but natalie feels, you know, all was embarrassed on the 4th for the intervention that stay at ups. you know, clearly peoria d, that was the wrong person around a gaze problem. it was not that they basically destroyed the point. i mean that they attended all the industry for china and other batteries. no, it was just the process or see or to clean up. now is the process, so what kind of a high speed would be bob? something like that. and again, and again, is a rush. it needs was this, that in what was the last 2 social networks there,

people are everywhere. it'll always be a default position for failure. gentlemen, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on so really stay with our to the the time. scott bennett, i'm former united states army psychological warfare officer, really served in the state department counterterrorism office under investor del daily the

. so i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and to gather the facts, to take back to the american people. the hold on bass of the front lines and the square, the bombs and the bullets are raging. this is where people are dying. this is where the buildings are exploding the go. i wanted to see 1st hand the scars of war. the

welcome acted, cross boulevard. a funeral bell. here we are discussing some real is george, it's a discussion you and i have had in the past multiple times. and i think that we have see in intentional fusion or to blur um, what is neil con and its out well in it'd be in the outlook out of new accounts and america. first, people like marco rubio, they're trying to fuse them together. and i think that is intellectually morally dishonest. george is exactly right because of course america 1st. um, originally meant in the, in the charles lindbergh sans and this sort of a fact you can, it'll kind of updated it to back in the 19 the ac is the america of us man. that who should pursue a policy that is in the den, 1st of the united states, but not in the interest of any other country. and that therefore, the united states should not be undertaking all kinds of interventions and

commitments that so know all this american interest. um and the now the how the so is trends me with it is he like in the minds of the various from acolytes, is that well america just gets to do whatever a one's without any hindrance one, any one else. so what could we continue to do everything that we have been doing before? um, but we now say that it's just about america and then the little, it's just an out in our interest. and everyone else can just simply bought though, and i think that's what they, you know, the various people don't know what, but they give this america 1st the label to themselves, readings of the advocates. so that's why, you know, you get people like mickey and your lives are, you know, on, on the right, the 1st, you know, but, but, you know, you'll be play the supporting israel. i'm everything you this or is all. yeah. well of course and everything is that's a good for is rarely is good for america. so level when i get a when everything goes rizzo, i'm of course advocating and america 1st policy and i think that's really the

permit as to all these people with a wall. so rubio, texas will say, yeah, we're doing america 1st and but what it, what about it will these was the human 10 now to escalate in order to assume something or oh, what less? yeah, that's, that's a america for us. so it's a deeply dishonest exercise in order to reassure chrome as the drum support is. yeah. yeah we're, we're on board for this. yeah. that's what i deal with. definitely. you know, no, no, no more of these. um, uh stupid was, uh for a somebody else know we'll have stupid. was that a for america 1st you know, the value of much of the discussion about the future cabin into another positions of the next administration. maybe you kind of all load because, you know, there is what i call been and been minute then minutes um, where you have the, um, uh, interagency can set uh, consensus. that's gonna be very,

very hard to fight against. okay. i mean, p takes as well, you know, popular tv guy. and i mean, well, the more power to him but to be able to control the largest single bureaucracy in the world with that within budget of a trillion dollars. if you think it would take him for years to learn how to run the place, let alone run it from day one, because the layers and layers of the mazda of bureaucracy, they just have a life of their own existence of their own. all these political actors are going to have to face the same thing. the case of the pentagon, which is much bigger, fema so well. yeah, true. and it seems as to how what do i do these appointments? i take them away the heck. so he's a cultural warrior. why should the cultural warrior have the defense department? because the defense department press been basically what i owe heated by cultural

awareness from the other side. i mean, we have seen how the media to you where you, where me move, you know, she will know that old won't bite beach at the same story with my beats. i mean, he's a great monopoly. uh, and this is very american to be a very small, but i'm going to give examples. in what ways do you think is nobody but the main monopolies? united states though he's, i don't want to go. if only the democrats is only the liberals are they carry as a web, some post. so you have a monopoly and i told you why not kind of monopoly either one of your final kind of it in government contracts. it is the just the same logic everywhere, but just to explain my position, maybe it will be interesting for all of yours. if i think if i tell you about the russian b o x. okay. i mean, when i see that people, even a coke receipts or statements to talk with you regarding this,

your and i, i wasn't thinking i attended the focus of ration speak recently most when people for products read the from germany, right. as the russians kind of from there, they tell me story is how they're bank. it's all a special adult, even though they were, for example, french teachers. it's on german. see just simply because they had rush and 2nd, they already were seated. so a lot of them, a women from rush front be or is it go because you are so pray, she saw them, they fell across the restaurant. so when they stopped down for benefits on before the prostate, because they rode to that bank, i am rushing now bro. these and you can see them in your big cause of your true because of sportage and for crow, it was the notion because she graduated from the highest point. we could always fun with the most liberal education with students in russia. and she wanted to be able to people who internal and saw that she saw this,

that you're still in your you wouldn't even, uh, even if you left brasher, do you find the name of the business, this liberalism as it exists in the west. now it's just the 4 and a, a warm and fuzzy version of authoritarianism and we all know that they have a different tedium. you know, he doesn't come with a jack boot. he comes with the pad on the, on the back. george, there's a real important issue here because as i started out, we're all kind of students from this. and if we liked it or not, you're, we're all forced to be i strongly believe the legacy is going to play a very big role in trumps mind the seamless bar we all know that he won't be running for another term. this is easy to remarkable position of day one. he's a lame duck. it is, we all know a he respects if it's a 1st or 2nd term, you got a window of about 18 months to make to leave your mark. okay. and i,

i have to hold considering the motley crue that he's gonna have around him, but he's good, his, what history to be kind to him, what do you think he's going to do thinking that way? well i, i absolutely great i, i do thing that he wants to bring the 2 was that america is involved in the, to a swift conclusion. the problem is he doesn't really know how is going to do it, and he hasn't really put these together a team. that's like the doors even though i think trump sense is that the way you get to bees is by token grades, sauce price, and everybody. and then they know everybody's their days. oh yeah yeah. where where's the document? let me just sign on the dotted line. the last thing i want this to be up against this crazy man in the white house. and i think that so that's a very dangerous um position to today because i, you know, i,

i do think that when it comes to the ukraine, i think he is going to present a piece plan, something along the lines we've talked about before, something that needs to be not be have it set out in various newspaper articles. i think it'll be unacceptable. i don't think i, i don't think your brain will accept them. i don't think russia will accept it, and then he's gonna have to decide what to do next. and i think that he will then escalade. another thing becomes very dangerous because you get a good day. you could just take it a step while we know that truckers don't dangerous things in the past. and like, you know, they use this estimation of a general solemn ami. um they get them again on their own and other searches. uh so, um, you know, that that's the step by, at the behest of another country at the behest of another country. and you come and particularly now as we've seen the kind of a reckless things of israel was done with carrying out of assassinations. again, you kind of one that is this something else that's on the cards. you know, trump,

things that have, let me just, you know, escalate by doing something as dangerous and resurrect with as a carry. now it's almost as a nation, you know, he never can sell. i mean, easy isn't material. so he does take a risk and i think that's really the problem and that's the same thing with them. is royal. i think he could easily, they are then you know that the adult, the very dangerous ball is they think they say, well, this is the, the fastest way to get to piece. there's do something really dangerous way. exactly . he's like, well that's, that's, i think that's, that, that's a real concern. you know, if you got away with it in the box might be going away with the general sort of money next time. you may not be able to get a, you know, that, you know, dealing with vladimir putin has dealt with a way to go back. i have to technically, to bill it from bill clinton. i mean, that gives me add the transition there, george w bush. i brock obama, donald trump, a joe biden and then get now again,

donald trump. how does the russian leadership see american presidents? well, i mean, i may just maybe surprise, but we have a lot then it goes this open america 1st. that's no why don't, when do i don't expect me to be loved by and that you know we can provide for ourselves. we know it now we've had these there already pump. it seemed that wait a just $39.00 just now we know that we can provide for ourselves. thanks to the same. you know, we've got several americans. thursdays is quite okay with us. you know about, about, well, just had a good relationship with george w bush, despite the warranty shape. it would be on george w bush. okay. your country, we have one program, but what was the problem is when you start to pete, you're bringing naturalistic gage. bush, when you start to make for a southern sheet, bob lives. what's the bush, when you can see the russians need in the baltics,

what you will be as large as in your them we have a book. and that's was unfortunately very, very typical for obama. and so by the end that's why a relationship with a bite on so cell phones from what was from the very beginning. but again, i'm afraid by the same paradigm. no, usually it was a new president, comes to ball afresh. room with our special voting to oldest. you bow a says i'm going to relations with russia. you know, that was the case with a bama. you remember that you said that was like a human was by the remember that so i'm going to be were you know which of them the by the median in geneva, but it was also the beginning of the prompts for us to remember the assignment didn't cosen deep damon lives by the liberal brass. so it's all was the same, but at the beginning and then more and more, each one says from the, well, i agree maybe add, maybe not a good beginning, but it tennyson's that'd be intentionally dentist don't seem to be. and then i've

always on the back, we'll kinda end on this, i'll, we said the united states and russia don't have to be friends, but they really should be in a meeting. so okay, i want to thank my guess here in moscow and in budapest, and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc and next time remember about cycles. the,

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the scott bennett, i'm a former united states army psychological warfare officer, really served in the state department counterterrorism office under investor del daily. so i wanted to come here to russia in the dawn bass area and gather the facts to take back to the american people for the course or the