in the hello and welcome to cross that bull horns were all things are considered on the rule about one of the most important victims of politics is personnel is policy. given donald trump's growing list of unorthodox appointments is difficult to discern what foreign policy his administration will pursue, change or continuity discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guess, george samuel. we included bessie's a broadcast where the goggles, which we found on youtube and locals, and here in moscow across to dmitri bob, it used to be for an editor. it comes to google sky from daily. or i generally across that girls that attract, that means you can jump anytime you want that. i always appreciate it. okay, well kick it off with georgia in budapest, you know, general and i was thinking about, you know,

how long we've been talking about donald trump. and i think it would be fair to say that in all 3 of us and many others have at least a bachelor's degree and from studies, maybe others have more advanced degrees. i think george, you may fall into that category. so it should be incumbent upon us to try to figure out what the heck is this man doing because he's been in the spotlight about 10 years now. just think about that gentleman, 10 years, he's been the focus of american politics. so george, when we look at this about of, of appointments and what can talk about individual ones. they're just 2 things that they all have in common. loyalty to try them. and they seem to be all fanatical israel supporters. what else is going on here? george? oh yeah, you some of that up perfectly. exactly. that there was a distinctive characteristic of all of these people. it is loyalty, it's a problem. and some decision about israel,

some of them have come to fanaticism about israel for relatively recent planning, for instance. um uh the, the would be the director of the national intelligence. it's also yeah, but it was very critical of israel when she ran for president in um 2021. what else to look at lately? the farm far was the team and assume that they will pursue a whole kish foreign policy. it means eventually is the will like policy. it will, it would be very nice not to do so when you, with the point people like michaels, is your national security advisor. mario rubio is your secretary of state and you know, the b type, texas as your defense secretary, these of the not people that you would expect to preside over a termination of wars. and now some people say, yeah, but it will be trump,

who was the said policy, a metro, it's the president was that sponsorship, omeo. and why would you pick these people if what you had in mind was the, you know, the procedure of peace. and the easiest way to think about this as well. let's look at the issues like um, venezuela or china and you buy the cuba. what would you expect the steam to do? because there's a while ago say they expect to uh, escalate against man as well. oh, yeah. so like, i expect them to escalate against china. so, um, what about iran? well, of course uh, gonna escalate against iran, but then why is it then when we come to ukraine, the use of health things that they will pursue a, a peaceful policy on your credit. it doesn't really make uh, very much sense. and you would have to think that this from does not like more. i think we can say, let's say if he, that he doesn't like, well, however, as who's doing this 1st time, he hasn't quite figured out the steps you have to take to the su piece. adjusted

this thing based. so stray is really me, is very little entertainment the judge brings up so many good points here. i mean, again, there's a loyalty to trump of well loyalty to, to israel. and then, you know, there are demarco ruby, those that are fanatical about ben is way through. uh okay. and then you're going to have others that are still begrudging. russia, gators and china hawks. and all that i suppose from can make the claim. and we'll see if it got hands out that he'll be in charge of his foreign policy, unlike he was in the, in his 1st term. so, i mean, it's really more and more uncomfortable and focused on one man because trump was, you know, they gave him the runaround when he was my president before. so i don't know if that's good news or bad news with the very reasons. and george says, i mean he's against the war but he doesn't know how to make peace, fema. well, that's exactly true. he doesn't want costly looks. i mean, he's not

a gaze. she was that you were going to win easy, you know, you probably saw that there were a gaze there on the dad. the sister would be such a war about things going yeah. in the and she decided not to go there about the primrose. com is that she doesn't quite understand who he is and he was on the goals of them were rags. wondering if there are no, you know, there are a special you, guy, adults. does any difference avenue? this sounds are the only person with the logic it and he is a new iphone to use those folks. the barber. i mean, she went to war in iraq. wow. all right, because she bo and you know why? because she saw that there was that stuff to 1001 and she is a single girl, religion these seem to is. so she's absolutely right about is from, is not a about this one is being violence, you know, uh, organizing very stairs. and that the to use the fact that as long as you can see to

see new people and those are the groups impressed even fewer. but the problem is that, that they adhere. and so this altered liberal ideology, which is prevailing no indian by the administration in the or the me a base people view a huge bob, a few many get, asking people what all the people, even in the sole goal focus is if you, if you listen to what uh, a bite is people and what the leaders of your being a congress to say about them. they re got it somehow impute. of course, they will tell you the email and you want me straight into your id and logically, really, exactly, you know, more apartment that you ask the your be in need to see if your was either level of course, the gaze. russians were not, they gains the and gary is, but i don't think it is chinese. they just become democrats that have for me what they do, what we're saying. but that's exactly what these from us will tell you about the

those. why don't they receive those? they just crept to convert 3 islam and them, you know, they will be regarded as sold to eat. both was bought both the garbage. but what in the progress she saw, how that i told you, i mean that they're also able to like look, it destroys people, you know, most lambs and christians just for the, for the sake regime g. so her position is very logical. she called herself the more days there is a and the dog in the was for huge about the, you know, most of the war started by the united states. and by that is the, is your be and i watch and by you do, these are what, what do you mean, jake, you know why the, what you see or it impacts the governor was absolutely right to say that it was i called crazy the support the forces that you're in the states supported can see that they supported you. slip is a gaze president. awesome. and he was barely more difficult when she mentioned with

thousands 7 do that when she refused to apologize. oh, what work is there a fee or something? the reaction or what you were being brass and were being lead us to the appointment of barbara. and if you are the people in the drums, uh uh, administration. uh let me just quote with some of the headlights. it's a, it's a reasonable concern. you know, the, this is wally. so this is why i saw that there was a woman in terms of these tracy global assess fees for piece. okay. well that hang on there. okay, betsy to jump into those that can just take a few questions and combine them for george here. well, a plus for chelsea gabbert is that she's not part of the foreign policy, blah. that's why there's so much resistance to her. and then there's the issue of qualification that's all over the place. well, look at the, by the administrative look in his cabinet, of what qualifications to these people have? okay. i mean, it's really quite extraordinary. marco rubio, pete heck sets,

i mean was a t b increment role. reagan was an actor. i mean, i'm on trying to denigrate or support any of these people here, but i don't really think this is the issue. it play qualification, stuart. no good. it is that is one of these completely bogus arguments that people try that. why, you know, the, or the real issue is lack of qualifications to post us have got a big issue. she actually, so she served in the military. she has taken a consistent interest in matters of intelligence and secure at any rate, if you were to ask, well what's, what's the thing, what's issues? or i think it's been foreign policy. a critique of american foreign policy and intervention is on the problem will be in the case, is that she will be in the business of um, coordinating intelligence. so she will actually be running an agency. i mean, she'll be colleagues in information for only intelligence ages is then presenting

them to the president, but the people with the power will be the people who actually run these agencies. so this just said, always be in charge of 18 intelligence. aid is why she wouldn't really be in charge of the agency. it's just that they collect information, critique of that and presented the findings to the president. so she wouldn't actually be in the policy making role. and i think that that, that i'm the cops that can use the, the problem with the, the immediate national security team is that, you know, then they want over the past few months to sound like chrome. exactly. they've decided this on the battery about it, you know, those people say, well, yes, but, you know, mark or ruby a voted against the 100000000000 dollar package where ukraine and israel n n e z. yes, he did vote against that. but what was the reason the site, the not

a position to the policy on your brain, but the thing, well, it wasn't enough money for the border. you know, that's the end of the, it's the bought of. also, rubio knew that as when he calls that vote, that he would possible, well, mainly in the senate. so the vote really didn't mean anything is all i get anything dependent on his vote. the same thing with the mike wills. well, so his critique of the, by the ministration had been that it's not doing enough. it's, it's, it's too soft on the, on both team. so when he also voted against the, is the sending more money if the game it wasn't because, you know, i think this is wish we should read it, but you'll be spring. this knowing it is what levels really look well the by ministration is already handling this properly search on it shouldn't be doing more as relates to least giving, setting out an agenda. so you're telling us exactly what it's in terms of, it's a cop out, is a hit to get this on his response just like this, like, you know, why am i the problem is the lack of qualification of you know,

the person is lying. isn't telling you why he's opposed to something near to god remember before we go to the break here and russia gates is made, its appearance again apparently tells that does the gap or it is a includes pocket. we heard this place sitting member of hardware, so who used to be a spook or so. so rest of gates is also inside the ma mazda and surprising the ball they have. uh, you know, the idea, what would you just know? who is the night states? it is the 3rd day because, but natalie space is almost a bruce summit or for an intervention that stayed at ups, you know, clearly to reduce that was the wrong person around a gaze problem. it was not that they basically destroyed the point. i mean that they tended all the industry to china and other batteries? no, it was just the process or see where to clean up. now is the process, what kind of a high speed would be bob? something like that. and again, and again is a rush. it needs one says the engine blows in us. social networks. there people are

everywhere. it'll always be a default position for failure. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break. and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion. and so really stay with our to the, in the 1870s, the colonial expansion of the british empire and denial valley in greece, debris, it is decided to get complete control over sudan. however, the deeply religious people of that country did not want to obey 4 laws. the unceremonious intervention of british officials led to people's discontent. it's spokesmen was the theologians mohammed all thought. the drug blamed himself the marty to them as i began to gather an army against the invaders. by

1884, most of the sudanese cities were in the hands of the modern great britain decided to intervene directly. but the troops of ahmad gave the invaders at drubbing in $1885.00. the rebels. the capital car to the feet of britain was totaled only by the very end of the 19th century. after the death of ahmad, the british were able to regain their control of sudan. unable to defeat the living body, the british took revenge on the dead. what his remains were drawn out of the mazda liam, and thrown away into the nile. ahmad said was brought to england as a trophy. however, the victory of the modest revolt became the 1st successful action of the peoples of africa against the colonial afresh. and remained at dark stain on the reputation of the british empire. the cause i know

it's not so someone that just didn't want to say i'm on this for you. based on the fall under the guise of evacuation about 50000 people were transported the the main purpose of this concentration camp in federal rules was to in think prisoners was typhus and use them as a human shield against the advancing savvy it on a different mind. but feeling in coupon, you put them in the sky when it was in love with like you can pick up the ship your step up and stuff like that, but don't want to bring your name the i'm so sorry i missed because on your certificate seems to it but decided that just, you know, it's easy use people is biological weapons leaving them to perish with that food.

also shelter, feed your small it there. she can give her a deity. so critical is that what you smell it to the can you put the intrinsic nation weight in there? so that's a huge issue. leadership for them to move the cam gloucester 10 days or what else made it drastically defends from other camps of the 3rd rice watch. on t the bell domestic cross. i boulevard a funeral bell. here we are discussing some realist, george, it's a discussion you and i have had in the past multiple times. and i think that we have see an intentional fusion or to blur. um, what is me o'con and its out well in the, in the outlook your new account in america. first, people like marco rubio, they're trying to fuse them together. and i think that is intellectually morally dishonest. george?

well, that's exactly right. because of course, america 1st. um, originally meant in the, in the charles lindbergh sans and the sort of a bad buchanan romantic updated. it's a back in the 1980 is the america of us man. that who should pursue a policy that busy and they've been for us all of the united states been involved in the interest of any other country. and that therefore, the united states should not be undertaking all kinds of interventions and commitments that so know all this american interest um and the now the how this, those trends me with it is he like in the minds of the various from acolytes, is that, well american just guess to do whatever a ones without any hindrance, want anyone else. so it can, we continue to do everything that we have been doing before, but we now say that it's just about america and that is just an hour in our interest. and everyone else can just simply bought though,

and i think that's what they, you know, the various people don't know what taking this america 1st, the label to themselves, ready with the advocates. so that's why, you know, you get people like mickey annually or so you know, on, on the right, the 1st, you know, um, but, but, you know, you'll be politically supporting israel, i'm everything you this or is or yeah, well of course everything is that's a good for is rarely is good for america, so level when i, when i, when everything goes rizzo, i'm of course advocating and america for us policy and i think that's really the permanent to all these people with a wall. so rubio takes, it will say, yeah, we're doing america 1st and but what it, what about it will these was the do in 10 now to escalate, in order to do something or oh, well that's, yeah that's, that's a america for us. so it's a deeply dishonest exercise in order to reassure it from the from supporters that yeah, yeah we're, we're on board for this. yeah, that's the way i would definitely you know, no, no, no more of these. um, uh,

stupid was of the of somebody else that will have stupid was that a for america 1st you know, a menu of much of the discussion about, but the future cabin into another positions of the next administration. maybe you kind of all load because, you know, there's a, what i called been and then minute then minutes of where you have the, um, uh, interagency can set a consensus. that's gonna be very, very hard to fight against. okay. i mean, p takes as well, you know, popular tv guy. and i mean, well, the more power to him but to be able to control the largest single bureaucracy in the world with that within budget, but truly in dollars. if you think it would take him for years to learn how to run the place, let alone run it from day one, because the layers and layers of the mazda of bureaucracy, they just have

a life of their own existence of their own. all these political actors are going to have to face the same thing. the case of the pentagon is just much bigger, fema. uh, well, yeah, true. and it seems as to how well, what do i do these appointments? i take them away being hex, that he's a cultural warrior. why should the cultural warrior it's the defense department? because the defense department has been basically violated by cultural awareness from the side. i mean, we have seen how the mean if you, where you, where me move, you know, she will know that old won't bite beach at the same story with my beats. i mean, he's a monopoly and this is very american to be a very small, but i'm going to give examples. in what ways do you think it is, but nobody but the main monopoly? the letter states though he's, i don't want to go if only of the democrats, if only the liberals are, they carry as a web, some post. so you have

a monopoly and i told you why not kind of monopoly either one of your final kind of it in government contracts. it is just the same logic everywhere. but just to explain my position, maybe it will be interesting for all of yours. if i think if i tell you about the russian buell oaks, okay. i mean, when i see that people, even a, in a coke or seats or statement to talk with you regarding this in your uh, i, i wasn't thinking i attended the focus of ration speak recently. most people from across from region, from germany, right at the russian spanish. from there they tell me the story is how they're bank . it's all special adult. even though they were, for example, the french teachers on german see just simply because they had rush and sick and they already were seated. so a lot of them, a women from rush front be or is it will cause you to go. so pray, she saw them,

they fell across the russian. so when they shut down for benefits all and before the prostate, because they rode to the bank, i am rushing now bro, those days. and you can see them in your big cause of your i don't want you because of footage and for crow, it was the notion because she graduated from the high school. we could always find out the most liberal just as much as in russia. and she wanted to be able to keep the whole channel and saw that she saw this, that you're still in your, you wouldn't even, uh, even if you left brasher, do you find the name of the business? this liberalism, as it exists in the west. now it fits the for on a, a, a warm and fuzzy version of authoritarianism and we all know that they have a different tedium. um, you know, it doesn't come with a jack boot, it comes with the pad on the, on the back. george, there's a real important issue here because as i started out,

we're all kind of students. so from this and if we liked it or not, you're, we're all forced to be i strongly believe the legacy is going to play a very big role in trumps mind the seamless bar we all know that he won't be running for another term. this is easy to remarkable position of day one. he's a lame duck at his we all know a he respects who is a 1st or 2nd term. you got a window of about 18 months to make to leave your mark. okay. and i, i have to hold considering the motley crue that he's gonna have around him, but he's good, his, what history to be kind to him, what do you think he's going to do thinking that way? well i, i absolutely great i, i do thing that he wants to bring up the tools that america is involved in the, to a swift conclusion. the problem is he doesn't really know how is going to do it. and he hasn't been able to put together a team that's like

a dog even though i think trump sense is that the way you get to bees is by talking or it's all frightening everybody. and then they like everybody, there it is. oh yeah. yeah. where with the document, let me just sign on the dotted line. the last thing i want this to be up against this crazy man in the white house. and i think that, so that's a very dangerous interposition to today because i, you know, i, i do think that when it comes to the ukraine, i think he is going to present a piece plan, something along the lines we've talked about before. some of the things being operate is set out in various newspaper articles. i think it'll be unacceptable. i don't think i, i don't think your brain will accept them. i don't think russia will accept it. and then he's gonna have to decide what to do next. and i think that he will then escalade. another thing becomes very dangerous because you get a good day. you can just take it

a step while we know that truckers don't dangerous things in the past. and like, you know, these besides some nation of the general solemn ami um they get them again on the, on another surface. uh so, um, do you know that that's the next step, but at the behest of another country at the behest of another country and you come and particularly now as we've seen the kind of a reckless things of israel as donald, with carrying out of assassinations. again, you kind of one that, is this something else that's on the cards, you know, trump, things that have, let me just, you know, escalate by doing something as dangerous and resurrect with as a carry. now it's almost as a nation, you know, he never can sell. lemme easy isn't material. so he does take a risk. and i think that's really the problem and it's the same thing with the israel. i think he could easily but then you know that the adoptive a dangerous ball is they think they say, well, this is the fastest way to get to piece. there's do something really dangerous way exactly that. well that's, that's, i think that's, that, that's

a real concern. you know, if you got away with it in the box might be there, you go to wait with the general sort of money next time. you may not be able to get away with it. you know, de la vladimir putin has dealt with, we do a back a half it technically to bill it from bill clinton. i mean, that gives me add the transition there. george w bush, a brock obama donald trump. well joe biden. and then get now again, donald trump. how does the russian leadership see american presidents? well, i mean, i guess maybe surprised, but we have a lot then it goes this slogan, america 1st. that's no one on one to why don't expect me to be loved by and that you know, we can provide for ourselves. we know it now we've had these there already focusing that wait a just 39 just so we know that we can provide for ourselves. thanks to the same. so we've done several america. this thursday is quite okay with us. you know about,

of, well, just had a good relationship with george w bush, despite the function i did before on george w bush. most of okay, your country. we have one program. but what was the problem is when you start to pete, you're bringing nationalist gage bush when you start to me for. so i'm going to bob live close to books. when you can see the russians need in the baltics what you're a bit as large as in your them, we have a book. and that's was unfortunately very, very typical for obama and so by them. and that's why a relationship with a bite on so solid ones from what was from the very beginning. but again, i'm afraid by the same paradigm. now, usually, when the new president comes to ball afresh, one with our special voting to oldest, your boss says i'm going to the relationship with russia. you know, that was the case with a bomb. you remember that you said that was the case you,

when was by the, remember that so many d, g, e were, you know which of them the, by the need you need, you need what? uh, it was also the beginning of the prompts for us to remember the assignment didn't co, cynthia daemon lives by the real brass. so it's all was the same but in the beginning and then more and more each one says probably, well i agree maybe add maybe not a good beginning, but it tennyson's that'd be intentionally dentist don't seem to be. and then i have always on the back. we'll kinda end on this uh, we said the united states and russia don't have to be friends, but they really ship them to be enemies. okay. i want to say my guess here in moscow and in budapest and of course i want to thank our viewers for watching us here at our dc and next time, remember about cycles, the, the,

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