the, the yeah, bye bye bye. mary goes basically refusing to call mental whether he's actually given ukraine permission to use american long range weapons against russia. republicans, the thing is, this is true. it's an attempt to do rail. donald trump's visa on his way out of office j vitamin is dangerously trying to stop world war 3, play authorizing ukraine, the use of us long range missiles into russia. yeah, the kremlin meantime, pulling the decision a dangerous escalation as west and a specialist would have to be directly involved in any long range. missed all attacks on the russians. doyle that at codes

a lot of my food ends warning political equals to that of nato's direct involvement . posts on the program more representation for the global solved is required to get it done. reforms are needed in international institutions. that's according to the china lead in real. there's the g 20 summit kicks off in the target by myself to 7 pm here in moscow. we're going to wait until monday night with the old news, both on the front and center here. here we go. so donald trump's team basically accusing the car and bite and administration of as i say, bringing the world to the brink, offer a portly, has given key for the green light to use long range resolves to strike deep inside russian territory. as i say, the white house is trying to do rail piece efforts for the incoming trump administration, probably about some of the democrats, so some of that biggest, don't know, supporting the news. alex are awesome. no surprise. however,

president biden was either law still confused, as he refused to address this issue. it's the meanwhile of the drum and the federal government has confirmed it was previously aware that the by the administration would make such a decision. so did the federal government know beforehand deciding what pledge was fall reaching weapons and will this now have an effect on the tourist miss? i will discussion your bottom. yes, the federal government was informed about this and no, it is had no effect on the chancellor's decision. not to provide the torres, so the okay and friends are allowing ukraine to use the long range weapons that's according to initial media reports that have since been deleted. but the type sophie's must always, that you will have different ranges. for example, the older ones, they can travel up to about

a 165 kilometers from the ukraine region. but the french scout sudden british storm shadows, they can reach around 250 click. so you can see on the map here that puts places like put on. yeah, it's all stuff is still potentially in the line of stripe. and then you american attack comes, they go even further up to 300 kilometers with the range that not far as you can see from the top of the map from the various moscow regions. perhaps one question is, how do these missiles compact the long range drones ukraine's already being firing into russia? but when it comes to reaction the kremlin spokesperson inside, if indeed you crane steps off fits miss all attacks, nato countries will directly bear responsibility. a control done and then there should be ok you the strikes are not carried out by ukraine. these strikes are carried out by those countries that give permission target things and other services are not carried out by the ukrainian military. this is done by military specialists from the same western countries,

and this fundamentally changes the modality of their involvement in the conflict. this is the danger and publication of the situation. just so a lot of people are talking about this right now, and the key figures and the republican party have been well pretty quick to condemn the move. quite ending isn't a 10 by the democrats, that the rail, any potential piece of it by donald trump. on his way out of office, joe biden is dangerously trying to stop world war 3 by authorizing ukraine. the use of us long range missiles into russia. the american people gave a mandate on those and the 5th against these exact american loss decisions and do not want to fund or fight foreign was the military industrial complex seems to want to make sure they get world war 3 going before my father has a chance to create peace and save lives, got to lock in those trillions life be damned imbeciles. while they are in the program, we heard from the deputy director general of the india and international institute

of security. who says that despite keeps hands being on tied of the long range of strides will not be a game changer in the conflict and of russia will find a way to respond. i am not so very convinced that by merely getting these ground uh, systems and you know, the area of missile systems. uh, you will go in any water with a shot and then so far as so your credit is concerned or uh, you know, it being a back seat with the, with there currently it is. it's not going to help. uh, there's no way you see why you may have that mrs. i'll give it to you. i don't think so is going to be utilized by that. you could and envelopes which keeps the motor light for the machines and to act that way. and once that happens, the defense line will be crossed and uh, the shell will do know something, at least the but the ability tactical nuclear level. that's the, that's the last limit. but they have to have enough weapon to be much below that. they sure to bump into you could into, you know, get some sense into that tongue process and simply good thing besides simply

getting things and does not ensure be these be soak or the, you know, rickety lab which of, you know, the rest of the thinking off it's not going to happen right, but it's a big 3. there is no big thing to say in this garden scenario because the nations have achieved their standard objectives and there is a line being thrown by that issue and spot, you know, the wind is not across the smaller bits of 80. i take them in the course because you know, some of the region is i want to make a substantial difference to this water eventually. and, but i shouldn't that fully equipped and i'm at least technically new will be areas where they have been on the holidays. so out of my food, and as i'm sure you remember previously was back in september the if, but nato state crossed the red line by allowing strikes statement of russia, an appropriate response would follow. and china has spoken off against those who are clearly looking to escalate. the concept could have been too long. i would like to reaffirm that a new crane crisis,

china upholds an objective and just position and has actively promoted piece talks, which stands in sharp contrast with certain countries who apply double standards and keep adding fuel to the fire on ukraine crisis. something built, well china, it just stating the obvious, i mean us has being are choosing b gene of supply. so called d o use items to russia when they're just normal trait relationship. yet, here we are, us is authorized, long ranged american missiles to be use against russia, and we all know those uh, those people who are operating american missiles, those people who, selecting targets based on america, based on american supply satellite intelligence. this person vows won't be americans as the only ukranian they'll be american. so this is a ward that us is wage on russia. i don't think because of the alignment put in would have changed his position in the matter of money like that might bite and

actually went out publicly said he is a dentist of uh, authorizing deeps, or striking to rush. i will use american missiles, but now he reimbursed that to him after losing or election. this is a, this is a tragedy of the, the, the different comic tragedy of american system. biden is basically setting up a poison pill for the incoming trump presidency. trump said he wanted to end the world in ukraine, might and just not the end to end. he's bringing literally bring us closer to will worth 3 on his way out. and while the some 5 since are criticizing this escalation, some european leaders have a very different take, for example, the german foreign minister who's fully behind them a little over here in light of the recent decision from the u. s. i want to emphasize that this is not a reevaluation, but rather an intensification of the support already provided by other partners.

and it is crucial at this moment flossing and key assault. okay, so these are missiles that have a range of up to 300 kilometers. these are not the kind of missiles that can hit targets, such as st. petersburg or moscow or other large cities, remote from ukraine. these are not the kind of missiles that can be used across russia. way kind of sounds like he's backed track unless that whole right. hey with david causing the heritage populated, joining us to live on, on the international that david great to get you on the program right now. if i can just straight off the top of my head, make washington is neither can funding or even denying the reports, the, the deputy national security adviser saying the white house makes policy decision was based on the situation on the baffle field. so i guess one question, david, it seems like the kind of either trying to dodge it. they don't confirming it, they're not denying it. why are we seeing this? was something is going on and obviously someone is leak to this information to the press and it's the main stream media in the usa, i'm going west and europe as well. so some of the decision is i the happened or is

about to be taken a very, very shortly. so it is very while reading and you know, i completely condemn the escalation here. and the use of these weapons of attack comes weapon systems, because he does buy a material different, something is happening that had some happened before. and that is you will have if this does happen, us weapons being fired by us and nato operatives. we've made so guide in systems and satellites into russia itself, and that is, does not happen before yesterday, using the volleyball is weapons, but they all operate to volume, radians of power and be. so this is really an escalation. um, i think what's happening here is the joe biden is on the way out of the door. he's a new on 2 months, less on the transition, but he still has a little bit of power with some power left that he is beholden to. certain people

on shore independent to go on in the us military industrial complex and they want to extend and prolong the war going as long as they possibly can to squeeze every last $1000000000.00 out of the law. prolongation of the war. yeah. yeah. where you've got that guy gates coming. it is a new, a 20 german america. and a year ago he was saying like his own about money, it's all about, you know, money laundering. he was saying the military industrial complex. he also said, we don't have a dentist on anymore with a longer loan draw money. so hey, we still got your credit and that was what the incoming attorney general was saying, david. but you know, look on the german foreign minister on the bible. you know, she's, she's, she's really excited. she's thrilled about this idea. of course, the military industrial complex making more cash. but is there a direct motivation behind this? because as you say, the bite and ministrations going out, drums coming in a previous guest said best setting up a place in pill for the trump,

your thoughts. it may be so, i mean, i always think what's happening here. if i can draw a parallel between what's happening in your credit and what happened in both in the, in the 1990 the naples, me a very while i live that's a 2 years. and that was a terrible war. the wind down from 1992 to 1995, and then that was the date and peace, great agreement, athens and youth. there was a date set for the cessation of fighting and violence. you would have thoughts. the normal person would have thought that possibilities would have wound down towards the end of the war, but they didn't, they run the top and they escalated in the, the, the bar. that score was the fighting goal was more intense right up until the end points. because the 2 sides wanted to get as much land as possible so that when the ball actually stops, they would be in the position where they have the maximum possible lands taken either side. or the thing was seeing something similar here. they know the war is

coming to an end because donald trump is now president july and he's going to take over on january the 20th. the war is gonna stand very, very soon off to that. but the people who wanted to keep going all run picking up violence ramping up aggression up, and it's ro, everything they time while they have the last few weeks to do so in order to try to keep as much territory as they possibly can. and there are a lot of vested interest in ukraine. it is essentially be economically annexed by the big hedge funds in the united states and the military industrial complex, you know, black rock. yeah, i found it's got, it's tend to goes everywhere. they're involved in contracts for agriculture labs. they're involved in contract with audit rolled up so much of the crate jobs. i mean, david, you're absolutely right. black rock is bought up so much of ukraine, but russia are sitting on a lot of that. the black rock has now such as,

let me ask you, man, i mean, look, you know, you, i'm what i'm worried about, frankly worried about moscow's response here. david, because you know, something might say, you know, where the fury of a patient my fusion has been warning about these red lines. david, i mean, what kind of response would you expect from us go if indeed they do far off these big ballistics of moscow? well, he has, he's been incredibly patient over 2 and a half years and you know, this is a conflict that never have to happen. and then boss johnson went to scott for the peace, the ride months off to the war started this never needed to happen. yeah, so he's been very patient, bring them up to now this being escalation off the escalation and he reserves the right to strike back at may 2 countries that are now going to directly talk russian territory. you know, savvy not far. i don't want that to happen. i don't want the u. k o from germany or the usa to be directly attacked because we're getting into an escalation towards

world war 3. i hope he will continue to be patient for another 2 months. yeah. and so donald trump takes over and then the war will be over. there will be a new era, a new relationship, but a reset. the relationship between the west and russia, you know, hopefully back to normal trading relations. you know, at the very least. and so it could go either way, but hopefully we'll continue to be patient. well, that's some good commentary. write that from david cook and heritage populated. joining us live for an aussie international. thank you very much for your time. i enjoyed that. thank you. well, let's take this guy conversation further here on, on the international with, i'll contribute atara re now joining us here. it's tara, great to have you on the story. my goodness, me, it's got a lot of people raising their eyebrows right now into it. i, i get it, they, they, they talk about this publicly, but they kind of confirm it, then they deny it. you would imagine in a state of a war,

a conflict. they wouldn't be advertising publicly, their intentions here. how do you read and see what we're seeing today? well, it's a bit of chaotic, isn't it? and that's been typical of the, by the administration's foreign policy in general. right now, he's at the g 20, you know, wandering around the amazon and congressman massey made an app point that he's violated the law and congressional law by doing, taking this kind of policy stance. so, you know, it's morning time right now on the east coast and there, acknowledging that this policy was inactive and that unfortunately, people in the pentagon even that were pro trump, some of the generals were for this. yeah. which is really disconcerting to hear. but congress and matthew went on to say that, you know, basically by this in emasculated puppet of the deep state, which i think is an app description of him and further, you know, we're talking about an escalation that comes right before term comes in office. we

still have 2 months. um, how much damage is this administration going to do to humanity because now you have north korea and the mix. yeah, yeah. a whole new ball. okay. well what, what about uh contribute to college r l a. he joined us from bali and he was saying that the car and leadership it if you want to call about the democrats and the white house that that's setting up a poison pill for trump, they're going to try and escalate the conflict and kind of pushed jump into a corner, so he has to maintain this ongoing war and in your credit and your, your child. is it a poison pill? for trump? i don't think so now when it comes to crane know, maybe in other fronts, but this is why this could be trumps. opportunity to really be really show what he promised on the campaign trail that he was going to bring peace. this might be his administration's ability to reach out and really enact that, you know, anti war policy. he has tulsa gathered coming in, who's very much been outspoken, a girl,

and she's this prophecy. more amazing isn't the right. yeah, yeah, she's shipped. so it's a matter of, if they put their, you know, actions where their mouth is. yeah. um and i don't think there would be a way for um is a bite and administration unless they're going to call out war against russia. yeah . across that red line. that's a very dangerous thing for humanity and, and frankly, congress and matthew also made it a good point. it's an impeachable offense. yeah. and so, you know, i'm sure everyone's looking at all angles who is not for this. um and you know, uh, president puts in, made his statement in september 12th about what it meant. if they cross this line tar, the, the us major media and it says stolen, supported by them. and of course, the left of the left, the liberal meter is always trying to somehow brand trump, but not see they've done it, you know, time and time again. but the fact is there are actual nazis and ukraine's and authority as all fatality. and guess what are these as well potentially in the or not, you guys are flying to washington for

a rally today with support from drove by just for a moment. bear with me that type of look at some of those media claims against trump. do you think don't trump is a fashion? yes i do. oh, yes i do. it is deeply troubling and incredibly dangerous that donald trump would invoke adolph hitler, benito mussolini, for faster sticks. here in italy. threshing we in the 1930 like doing his version of 19 thirties, mcdonalds, exact same, can't be uncanny this as trump and mcdonald's and a bronx barber shop, been 1939 more than 20000 supporters of a different fascist leader adolf hitler patch. the garden for a so called pro america rally, or rally were speakers voice antisemitic rhetoric from a stage drait with nazi banners against that backdrop of history. donald trump is once again turning madison square garden into a staging ground for extremism. now that man wants his old office back and we'd

been treated to a 3 year rollercoaster. further evidence. the dining trumpet isn't in fact the fascist candidate for american president. go, are you going to imagine what all these people drinking these days? trump is kit la trump is a fascist, but is a nazi and all of a supporters to but the factors are biting and camelot of the very ones who being supporting nazis and the neo nazi as well for tally and and ukraine's military. what's your reaction exactly? me think style does protests to monetize. right? because there you have it. i mean, and unfortunately, um, this alliance that they formed with as a battalion and in canada even like putting a reward to an actual nazi. they are the actual ones supporting fascism. it remember ukraine's not a real democracy. they have, they have an illegitimate president at this point. they've outlaw the church they bout lot, but the russian language, i mean, they've done all these things that are very un democratic and very fast. and as far

as the bytes administration look at our censorship, look at the way they've targeted americans, including myself, including, you know, you've been targeted as well. um, as it by western government. so it's, you know, they talk about fashion and when actually they're the ones that are doing that kind of low. it's yeah, really projection. you know what, it actually goes back to, to the nazis a level 2. who would blame everyone else, but what they would doing? hello, washington and his trump, who basically wants to stop the war. indeed. crane he wants to. he wants to somehow cancel the fed. he wants to try and balance the budget. and people in the recent, you know, pasta is j, f, k, and all those they've had similar ideas. we all know what happened to people like j f. k. do you think trump just quickly, just quickly time, don't have much time. did you think trump is the binding of more than he can choose because he's going to have so many crosses on his chest and on his forehead? well, he has a team around him and is the, you know, the back around the saw me. you have um taught c gabbert,

whom you mentioned you on most you have a lot of people around him that are up to junior that are trying to get this agenda across the that are going to be on his team doing this. and you have american voters who resoundingly voted for this house senate and white house, so they want change systemically. they want to unless worse to stop you and they want domestic spending. yeah. what is the it was such a red way if that went all the way across north america, just a good look of those election stats. it was incredible, really, policy contributed tower rate. it's always a pleasure. thank you. thank you. so as the g 20 summit is kicking off right now in brazil, china is president, is speaking about reforming world governance bodies. besides the global cell, must have a more prominent fair representation. as a global partnership for sustainable development must be built and global development must be more inclusive, beneficial to all and more resilient. it is important to press ahead with the reform of the international monetary fund, the world bank,

and the world trade organization. and to increase the representation and voice of the global south is an additional georgia state to be a j 20 member states. another 56 delegations are expected to attend africa in particular, has now gained a more representation of the african union is now included as a permanent member of the club taken a great role in global governance. now it's not just officials gathering at the event, of course are always going to be people on the streets. a wave of pro palestinian demonstrate is a rough thing of the city of protest is taken to the st. slides and stein has demonic that the g 20 immediately stopped is. rails was on gauze and 11 on, and providing much needed to humanitarian aid to the victim. it's. it's always best to avoid. so no, no matter what the situation is and number to our brand new change. and so when decisions are being taken, it's a part of them to be able to be there and have

a voice and to speak. so to the extent, i think it's a very with the plans um, but i just wish that term age would be, i mean the only i've credit union for it could be made broad. the i'm the reason i'd say it. so instead of coverage, you said when i look at the un security council, i look at the g 20 and i'm wondering this is a, was that supposed to be the core where everybody should have a voice every nation is solving you know, um, i'm wondering why would have, uh, some countries, like just say, 9 more problem, right, on the mazda importer and some are more a for them of this in this century. it seems like i'm sorry to me, but we have to take it out and comes one separate time. so it's a separate right, it was directional for. yeah, it's a good question. victor are high right. that. well let's join our next guest now.

but right now ultimate is the chief editor at the upper up monday. now joining us here on, on the international great to get you on the show. thank you very much for spending your time. and let's just just, just quickly, minute, i know the whole g 20 along with over 50 delegations from other nations in to put it simply the world as many as saying is in a geo political crisis, but many are also expressing cautious optimism, brenna. what do you, what do you expect from the g 20 happening and where you are right now? i think it's a to been difficult to move beyond just didn't ever do statements on reasonable goals, things. so topics such as the fight against hunger and energy transition. the g 20 composition we fee is fades in, open come from base and having to decide bike of sciences makes practically impossible to reach that career resolutions on the roads main problems with, with the presence of the united states and europe encounters beside jeff and for

example, any serious discussion about the fast to building i'm due to pull up bill. so and sustainable world or the is book it's a may have been yeah, yeah, it's pretty good, commented right there. but no meantime, you know, they're pretty, as you say, pretty standard things being talked about, of a g 20. nothing really crazy coming out of it and maybe expectations, ah, that's really going to be the anticlimax of it all. but look, the african union has now being invited as a permanent member of the g 20 people keep talking about, you know, giving the developing nations in the global south allowed a voice. so judging thing a big fan of it, is it a big deal? the african union is, you know, joining the g 20 and i believe that this is a purely symbolic, this easy to also see both have they importance. they do 20 does not have come sentences and instruments to address advocates of the development and depend the range of discounts and by the great western powers which refused to compensate the

asking people for sending the threes off the coloring, at least. yeah, yeah. what about, what about the ones getting together amazing and great things. you know, they're all greasing palms of the chinese leda. he actually met with a british prime minister in brazil, the 1st bilateral meeting of its kind and about 60 is the body language. not so good, but i know what, why do you think that was the case and base it in many ways this kind of main thing is the 5th. uh, i mean it's performance and indeed, i don't think they did. they did 20 is much more than this. i mean, much more than a performance, it was many in both. the leaders have the missing, they have the opportunity to be laughter, a meeting all in a way. i mean,

it's easier to have just kind of mixing between this, this shapes of government and the state, but i don't think that they did try and say it is more than that. yeah. let me look, you know, the on the p r optics from it looks good, but we all know that having champagne lunches and enjoying themselves, you know, they're talking about the tax is a quality gender issues. i don't know if that really relates to any one any, any, every day john or j like you would meet it. does it relate to you later? i, i'm so sorry i couldn't, and this isn't the thing i'm trying to think the commentary about tax is a quality gender issues that's being thrown around the 20 debates relate to you. i believe, as i told you before, i believe the performance, the jeep, but the performance will be positive as you know, the g 20 assignments. but without, we always have that many. m. b,

use promises we will be made and some of the commitments will be signed. yeah, a lot of important issues are going to be inside the proration, but inside the final statement. but it's likely that the watson powers will you will agree to be out for the power of in pretty for the know that to add to rates real solutions for our times. the issues like war like the how the, like energy transition. i don't think we're going to have re of solutions inside the 5 or that right? that that means, but i know that you're not terribly optimistic. that was g 20 summit to how many buried to bring her out piece and gaza or ukraine. you thing know a man just no way i, i'm not optim is maybe the best,

the best decision. the 20 quote established is to develop its existence. i mean, i've done this, i've done the n. okay. and the role of the 20, well we have a united nations and then we have the specific, what legions of the couch is like the brakes. yeah. well look, it's all about, you know, the top one present in that private jets and that champagne lunches. but i know i appreciate you being such a straight to, to a brand new ultimate is a chief editor of the opera monday. thank you very much for joining us here. we're not to you. thank you. bye. thank you. thank you. thanks. thanks. thank you for joining us for this program live from most one of our stores continuing both on air and online you know the website so you don't have the .