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blowing welcome to cross that bowls warrants were all things are considered on people. about one of the most important victims of politics is personnel is policy . given donald trump's growing list of unorthodox appointments is difficult to discern what foreign policy his administration will pursue, change or continuity discuss these issues and more. i'm joined by my guest, george samuel, we in buddha. betsy's a pod cast where the goggles, which we found on youtube and locals. and here in moscow across to dmitri bob, it used to be for an editor. it comes to will, sky from daily. for a gentleman crossed up rules and effect, that means you can jump me anytime you want that. i always appreciate it. okay, well kicking off with georgia in budapest, you know, general and i was thinking about, you know, how long we've been talking about donald trump. and i think it would be fair to say

that in all 3 of us and many others have at least a bachelor's degree and from studies, maybe others have more advanced degrees. i think george, you may fall into that category. so it should be incumbent upon us to try to figure out what the heck is this man doing because he's been in the spotlight about 10 years now. just think about that gentleman, 10 years, he's been the focus of american politics. so george, when we look at this about of, of appointments and what can talk about individual ones. they're just 2 things that they all have in common. loyalty to try them. and they seem to be all fanatical is real supporters. what else is going on here? george: oh yeah, you some of that up perfectly. exactly. that's the distinctive characteristic of all of these people. it is loyalty to chrome and fanaticism about israel as some of them have come to fanaticism about israel for relatively recent planning

. for instance. um uh the would be the director of the national intelligence. it's also yeah, but it was very critical of israel when she ran for president in um 2021 . what i have so little completely, the farm far was a team and assume that they will pursue a whole kish foreign policy. it means eventually is the will like policy. it will, it would be very nice not to do so when you, with the point people like michaels, is your national security advisor. mario rubio is your secretary of state and you know, the p type, texas as your defense secretary, these are not people that you would expect to preside over a termination of wars. and now some people say, yeah, but it will be trump, who was the said policy, and that's true. it's the president who said sponsorship omeo. and why would you

pick these people if what you had in mind was the, you know, the procedure of peace. and the easiest way to think about this as well. let's look at the issues like um, venezuela or china and do you by the cuba. what would you expect the steam to do that because there's a lot of those they, they expect to uh, escalate against venezuela. oh and so like, i expect them to escalate against china. so um, what about iran? well, of course uh, gonna escalate it gives you around within wise and then when we come to ukraine and do some health things that they will uh, pursue a, a peaceful policy on your credit. it doesn't really make uh, very much sense. and you would have to think that this from does not like more, a single can say, let's say if he, that he doesn't like, well, however, as this, during this 1st time, he hasn't quite figured out the steps you have to take to. but you piece just sent this thing piece throw stripe really means very little entertainment. the judge

brings up so many good points here. i mean, again, there's a loyalty to trump of, well, loyalty into the israel. and then, you know, there are demarco ruby, those that are fanatical about ben is way through. uh okay. and then you're going to have others that are still begrudging. russia, gators and china hawks. and all that i suppose from can make the claim. and we'll see if it hands out that he'll be in charge of his foreign policy, unlike he was not in his 1st term. so, i mean, it's really more and more uncomfortable and focused on one man because trump was, you know, they gave him the runaround when he was my president before. so i don't know if that's good news or bad news with the very reasons. and george says, i mean he's against the war but he doesn't know how to make peace, fema. well, that's exactly true. he doesn't want costly looks. i mean, he's not a days she was that you were going to win easy, you know,

you probably saw that there were a days there on the that of sister would be such a war about that one. yeah. in the and you decided not to go there about the primrose. com is that she doesn't quite understand who his and he was and she goes to them. whereas only a set them know, you know, they're a special you, guy adult does any difference avenue? that's that sounds are the only person with the logic. yeah. and he is a new iphone keys. uh, there is boxing barber. i mean, she went to war in iraq. wow. all right. because she bought and you know why? because she saw that there was that stuff was 1001, and she is a single college and these seem to is. so she's absolutely right about if i'm just not a about this one is being violent, you know, uh, organizing dairy stairs. and that is the fact that these folks can see to see new

people and, and those are the groups impressed even fewer by the prominent lease for that that year. and so this altered liberal ideology, which is prevailing no indian by the administration in the or b a base people view a huge bob, a few many get, asking people what all the people, even in the sole goal focus is if you, if you listen to what uh, a bite is people and what the leaders of your being a congress to say about them. they re got it somehow impute. of course they will tell you the email and you want me straight into your id and logically, really, exactly, no problem where apartment you ask the your be in need to see if your was why the level of course, developmental learn. all the gays russians were and all the games the and gary is, but i don't think it is chinese. they just become democrats that have been able to do what we're seeing. but that's exactly what piece of us will tell you about the those. why don't they receive those? they just crept to convert 3 islam and them, you know,

they will be regarded as stoically equal thoughts. but both the god with but what in the progress she, sol, how that i told you. i mean that they're also able to like, look, it destroys people, you know, was lambs and grease jams just for the, for the stable regime g. so her position is very logical. she called herself the more days there is a and the dog in the was for huge about the, you know, most of the war started by the united states. and by that is your being i watch and by you do these are what, what do you mean, jake, you know, like the, what you see or it impacts the governor was absolutely right to say that it was i called gray z to the support the sources that you're at there was they supported, can see that they supported you. slip is a gaze president. awesome. and she was very wonderful when she mentioned with thousands 7 do that when she refused to apologize. oh, what work is there

a fee or something? the reaction or what you were p and brass, and we're being lead us to the appointment of thought c bar. but and if you are the people in the drums a, these patients, uh, let me just quote with some of the headlights. it's a, it's a reasonable concern. you know, the, this is wally. so this is why i saw that there was a woman in terms of these tracy global assess fees for piece. okay, well that, hang on there. okay. so you can jump into those that can take a few questions and combine them for george here. well, a plus for chelsea, gilbert is that she's not part of the foreign policy, blah. that's why there's so much resistance to her. and then there's the issue of qualification that's all over the place. well, look at the by the administrative look in his cabinet, of what cost vacation the lease people have. okay. i mean it's really quite extraordinary marco rubio, the pete hex that's, i mean, was the tb anchorman role. reagan was an actor. i mean,

i'm on trying to denigrate or support any of these people here, but i don't really think this is the issue. it play qualifications, george? no, it is that is one of these completely bogus arguments that people try that. why? you know, the, or the real issue is lack of qualifications to post us. they've got a big issue. she actually, so she served in the military. she has taken a consistent interest in matters of intelligence and secure at any rate, if you were to ask, well what's, what's the thing, what's issues are, i think it's been foreign policy. a critique of american foreign policy and intervention is on the problem will be in the case, is that she will be the business of the co ordinating intelligence. so she wouldn't actually be running an agency. i mean, she'll be call aging information for only the intelligence agency is presenting

them to the president. but the people with the power will be the people who actually run the agencies. so this just said, always be in charge of 18 intelligence ages where she wouldn't really be in charge of the 18 agencies. you would just simply collect information, critique aloud and present the findings to the president. so she wouldn't actually be in the policy making role. and i think that that, that, uh, on the cops actually, the problem was the, the immediate national security team is that, you know, then they want over the past few months to sound like chrome. exactly. they've decided this on the battery about it. you know, those people say, well, yes, but, you know, must go rubio voted against the 100000000000 dollar package where ukraine and israel n n e z. yes, he did vote against that. but what was the reason the site, the not a position do the policy on your brain, but the thing, well,

it wasn't enough money for the border. you know, that's the end of the it's the bought of also ruby and you that as what he calls that vote then you would possible, well mainly in the senate. so the vote really didn't mean anything is all i getting anything dependent on his vote. the same thing with the mike wills. well, so his critique of the, by the ministration had been that it's not doing enough. it's it's, it's too soft on the, on full team. so when he also voted against the, is the sending more money to do, it wasn't because, you know, i think this is which we should really pursue based. bring this, knowing that it is what levels really look well. the bi ministration has already handling this properly search on it shouldn't be doing more is that makes truly giving, setting out an agenda. so we telling us exactly what it's in tens of it's a cop out, is a hit. so it gets in this on this response just like this, like, you know, why? my only problem is the lack of qualification. you know, the 1st of these line isn't telling you why he's opposed to something near to god

remember before we go to the break here. and russia gates is made its appearance again, apparently tulsa. does it, gabbert is a including pocket. we heard this from a sitting member of hardware, so who used to be a spook or so. so rest of gates is also inside the ma. uh, not that surprising. the ball that uh, you know, the idea, what would you just know, who is the night states? it is the 3rd day. and because, but natalie feels, you know, all of us and for some, for, for an intervention that stayed at ups. you know, clearly peoria diesel was the wrong person around a gaze problem. it was not that they basically destroyed the point. i mean that they tended all the industry to china and other batteries. no, it was just the process or see where to clean up. now is the possible kind of a high speed would be bob, something like that. and again, and again, is a rush. it needs one says that enclosed in us social networks. there people are

everywhere. it'll always be a default position for failure. gentleman, i'm going to jump in here. we're going to go to a short break, and after that short break, we'll continue our discussion on so really stay with our to the cause i don't watch the not. so someone that just didn't want to say i'm on this for the little boy should face this issue idea i see for the thing under the guise of evacuation about 50000 people were transported the the main purpose of this concentration camp in federal rules was to in think, prisoners with typhus and use them as a human shield against the advancing soviet. on a given mind, the muscle was submitted to phone. the problem is there was one of us giving it was in love with like you can pick up the ship that you're shipping and stuff like that . but don't worry, don't bring your name the i'm so sorry i missed because on your certificate 6 to

put your salary and as a to see if the nazis use people is biological weapons leaving them to perish without food was the most shelter. the doors smaller for me, if i did so could i think it was, i knew you smooth the can you put the infringe nation way and there should have just put in each each additional restrict, financing, move the cam, gloucester 10 days, or what else made it drastically defense from other cam so that the rice watch on t the bell domestic prospect boulevard. a funeral bell here were discussing some realist, george, it's a discussion you and i have had in the past multiple times. and i think that we see

in intentional fusion or to blur um, what is neil con and its out well in the, in the outlook your new accounts and with america 1st, people like mark old rubio. they're trying to fuse them together. and i think that is intellectually immorally dishonest. george? well, that's exactly right. because of course, america 1st. um, originally meant in the, in the, in the charles lindbergh sans and the sort of a bad buchanan romantic updated. it's a back in the 1980 is the america for us, man, that we should pursue a policy that is in the interest of the united states, but not in the interest of any other country. and that therefore, the united states should not be undertaking all kinds of interventions and commitments that so know all this american interest um and the now the how this,

those trends me with it is he like in the minds of the various from acolytes, is that, well america just gets to do whatever a one's without any hindrance or any one else. so what could we continue to do everything that we have been doing before? um, but we now say that it's just about america and then the little it's just an out in our interest. and everyone else can just simply bought though. and i think that's what they, you know, the various people still know we're taking this america 1st the label to themselves, readings of the advocates. so that's why, you know, you get people like making a little, you know, on america 1st, you know, but, but you know, you'll get, play the supporting israel. i'm everything you this or is or yeah, well of course and everything is that's a good for israel is good for america. so therefore when i, when i, when everything goes fraser, oh, i'm of course advocating. and america 1st policy. and i think that's really the permit is to all these people with a wall. so rubio takes, it will say, yeah, we're doing america 1st and but what it,

what about all these was the do in 10 now to escalate, in order to assume something or what less. yeah, that's, that's a america for us. so it's a deeply dishonest exercise in order to reassure it from the drum support is that yeah, yeah we're, we're on board for this. yeah, that's the way it would definitely you know. no, no, no more of these. um, uh, stupid was of the of somebody else that will have stupid was that a for america 1st you know, the value of much of the discussion about, but the future cabin into another positions of the next administration. maybe you kind of all load because, you know, there's a, what i called been and been a minute been minutes um, where you have the, um, uh, interagency can set uh, consensus. that's gonna be very, very hard to fight against. okay. i mean, p takes as well, you know, popular tv guy. and i mean, well,

the more power to him but to be able to control the largest single bureaucracy in the world with that within budget, but truly in dollars. if you think it would take him for years to learn how to run the place, let alone run it from day one, because the layers and layers of the mazda of bureaucracy, they just have a life of their own existence of their own. all these political actors are going to have to face the same thing. the case of the pentagon, which is much bigger, fema so well. yeah, true. well, as it seems as to how, what do i do these appointments? i take them away the heck. so these are cultural warrior. why should the cultural warrior have the defense department? because the defense department has been basically violated by cultural war is, uh, from the other side. i mean, we have seen how the mean if you, where you, where me move, you know, she will know that old won't bite beach at the same story with my the gates. i mean,

he's a great monopoly. uh, and this is very american to be a very small, but i'm going to give examples in what ways do you think it is, but nobody but the main monopoly is the letter states. now he's, i don't want to go if only of the democrats, if only the liberals are, they carry as a web, some post. so you have a monopoly and i told you why not kind of monopoly either one of your final kind of it in government contracts. it is just the same logic everywhere. but just to explain my position, maybe that would be interesting for all of yours. if i think if i tell you about the russian b o x. okay. i mean, when i say that people, even a coke receipts or statements to talk with you regarding this in your uh i, i wasn't thinking i attended the, the focus of ration speak recently. most people from across rome, reeds or from germany,

right at the russian spanish. from there they tell me your story is how they're bank. it's all special though, even though they were, for example, french teachers on german see just simply because they had rush and sick and they already were seated. so a lot of them, a women from rush front be or is it go cause you to go. so pray, she saw them, they fell across the restaurant. so when they stopped down for benefits on before the prostate because they rode to the bank, i am rushing now bro, this. and you can see them in your big cause of your i don't want you because of storage and for crow, it was the ocean because she graduated from the high school. we could always find out the most liberal education with students in russia. and she wanted to be able to keep the whole channel and saw that she saw this, that you're still in your, you wouldn't even, uh, even if you left brush 80, find the name. and there's literally this, this liberalism as it exists in the west. now it's just the 4 and as a,

a warm and fuzzy version of authoritarianism and we all know that they have a different dbm. you know, it doesn't come with a jack booty comes with the pad on the, on the back. george, there's a real important issue here because as i started out, we're all kind of students from this. and if we liked it or not, you're, we're all forced to be i strongly believe the legacy is going to play a very big role in trumps mind the seamless bar we all know that he won't be running for another term. this is easy to remarkable position of day one. he's a lame duck, and as we all know, a he respects who is a 1st or 2nd term. you got a window of about 18 months to make to leave your mark. okay? and i, i have to hold considering the motley crue that he's going to have around him. but he's good, his, what history to be kind to him,

what do you think he's going to do thinking that way? well i, i absolutely great i, i do thing that he wants to bring up the tools that america is involved in the, to a swift conclusion. the problem is he doesn't really know how is going to do it, and he hasn't really put these together a team that's like a torch, even though i think trump sense is that the way you get to bees is by talking grades, sauce price, and everybody. and then you know, everybody's there is, oh yeah, yeah. where where's the document? let me just sign on the dotted line. the last thing i want this to be up against this crazy man in the white house. and i think that so that's a very dangerous um position to, to because i, you know, i, i do think that when it comes to the ukraine, i think he is going to present a piece plan, something along the lines we've talked about before, something that is being operate is set out in various newspaper articles. i think

it'll be all acceptable. i don't think i, i don't think your brain will accept them. i don't think russia will accept it, and then he's gonna have to decide what to do next. and i think that he will then escalade. another thing becomes very dangerous because you get a good day. you could just take it a step while we know that truckers don't dangerous things in the past. and like, you know, these besides some nation of a general, solemn ami um they get them again on their own and other searches. uh so, um, you know that that's the next step. but at the behest of another country at the behest of another country and you come and particularly now as we've seen the kind of a reckless things of israel is donald with carrying out of assassinations. again, you kind of one that, is this something else that's on the cards, you know, trump, things that have, let me just, you know, escalate by doing something as dangerous and resurrect with as a carry. now it's almost as a nation, you know, he never can sell. lemme easy is

a material. so he does take a risk. and i think that's really the problem and it's the same thing with the israel. i think he could easily think of it and you know that the adults are very dangerous balls. they think they say, well, this is the fastest way to get to piece doesn't do something really dangerous way. exactly. he's like, well that's, that's what i think that's, that, that's a real concern. you know, it's the go to away with it in the box might be that you go to wait with the general sort of money next time. you may not be able to get a, you know, they, you know, do you live vladimir putin has dealt with, we do a back, a half it technically to bill it from bill clinton. i mean that it gives me the translation there. george w bush, a brock, obama. donald trump. a job i didn't get. no, again. donald trump. how does the russian leadership see american presidents? well, i mean, i'm a just, maybe surprised, but we have a lot then it goes this slogan, america 1st. that's no why don't one do,

i don't expect you to be beloved by and that you know we can provide for ourselves . we know now we've had, these are already focusing their weight a just 39 just so we know that we can provide for all self thanks to the same. now we've done several americans 1st. this is quite okay with us, you know about of, but we just had a good relationship with the doors that will work. despite the function i did little bit of george w bush multiple. okay. your country, we have one program. but what was the problem is when you start to pete, you're bringing nationalistic gage bush. when you start to make for a so i'm going to bump the cost of books. when you can see the russians need in the baltics will be as large as in your then we have a book. and that was unfortunately very, very typical for obama and so by them. and that's why relations with

a bi done. so solve the ones from what was from the very beginning. but again, i'm afraid by the same paradigm. no, usually it was a new president comes to ball afresh. room with our special booking to oldest. you always says i'm going to the relationship with russia. you know, that was the case with a bama. you remember that you said that was the case even with, by the, remember that so many d, g, b were, you know, which of them the, by the need you need, you need what? uh, it was also the beginning of the prompts for us to remember the assignment didn't coast in deep, dim lights by the world press. so it's all was the same but in the beginning. and then more and more, each one says from the, well, i think maybe add maybe not a good beginning, but it tennyson's that'd be in tennis. the moving dentist don't seem to be. and then i've always on the back, we'll kinda end on this. we said the united states interested don't have to be friends, but they really should be enemies. ok,

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