style side wall for indonesia is not really in a very good shape. so those are the challenge, essentially. but back to indonesia, indonesia, as you can see, if you look at from this couple of years of our economy situation since our president juggle, we don't know. we've been actually, in a way, very much looking at a 5 percent growth. right. of course we did. we did not do perform well during the dynamic but hideaway after the year. we come back. not many country. i didn't know initially. right. and so now with all what's happening in the world, the data is joe political situation advocating, getting much i could see worse perhaps. and so this is the challenge. so with this barbara bush, a vandal right now, s as a new guessing engine naija. having these challenges of what we call the global challenges and, but i'm very sure that particularly buys publish it when the,

when he actually step in into presidency. the 1st think uses how want to make sure we have a good neighbor policies. why does it mean he wants to make sure all neighbors are working together? and then he'd say more than that, it says indonesia should be the peacekeepers of the well, the key factors of that kind of make rules is piece. if the actual piece that is more economical, so making sure that the general situation i see on is an example is a key factors where we all the kansas, alaska. and we must live in peace to make sure that he is no. so whole war, whatever situation that is helpful to the situation chapel that we have to make sure that how do we do this? what kind of thing that it will be the why are we why we call that as a staff and same to make sure did with the staff the a percent on this initiative is estimates of to add

452500 1000000000 to gdp right for the next 5 years and that will also create 16 to 18000000 new jobs by 2029. so indonesia is among the front runners in green technologies and we can see that it's has a lot of and to see as and when it comes to electric transportation be spaced and it also has the world's largest nicole reserves. now that you've also mentioned the g all political aspect that is happening, given the recent treat control overseas between western countries and try now when it comes through this industry. what is your card as a game plan in terms of developing this industry? first of all, i think one more time to spend that indonesia critically ever since the beginning

of our independence. and as you remember back in the 19 fifties and that was during our 1st precedential crime. no, he has of what we call a bundle ship. if meetings whereby there is a meeting of the non brooks is always been in a nation politic or a position to have a, a free, or we love everyone. we don't want to be in any blocks. we want to be inclusive. we want to work with everyone. we want to work with russia. they want to wait for them to chime that we want to work with us. we want to work with you. we want to work with all. and that's the position of your donasia. and so if you look at the, the ac mentioned, i think fee goes as an example. there's one of another legal systems that indonesia is trying to create from this electric vehicle equal systems. you can see that the needs for this electric vehicles. there's so many things, number one,

that one example i knew mention equals that is for the use of the ethics. i was, i, one of them asked us for batteries, but also that the same book site that we need to have that's can you be used for the so called frame of that extra fee so, so to me could lighter and then we have 5 that remains the real so all of this, i'm the ecosystem of electric vehicles allowing me though, but i think the vehicles, that's what we're talking about, right? but in an easier screen, we talk about all of these blocks, right? we worked with a u. s. so we, we supported what the, and the i best situation with you as an example. right? but we also work, we would like to work with for seen the brakes as an example. right? so that's why i was special invoice, minnesota for the refresh, because he probably send him to, to be part of the, you know, the meaning of bricks. and there he says that you know, new jersey and the rest of the body to be part of the x. right. and the question

why in indonesia is also part of all you see we are in the process of extra insurance. we will see these because we believe all these are important for us to be inclusive, to be part of all this good thinking with a different views of, you know, one is thinking about inclusive with the, for i know our while our friends open to global self as an example, but we have social to be framed with the google not. so you've touch upon bricks already. so i'll take the opportunity to talk more about that. and you also mentioned that indonesia is also making it bits for or easy the membership. and of course, it has been long playing a vital role in us and region as well. so when we talk about bricks, in particular, how important is bricks, membership for jakarta and your point of view. i think every

grouping of this economy groups is very important for you. i've got my name book. ok, let's let me just see if there is one more time that the good neighbor policies of people. ok. and he's the, the peacekeepers off the. well, there's been creating peace to make sure of that back and, and with that, and if you look at breaks, the way we look at bank is actually the breaks is, is actually a for approximately 5 minutes. and as again, when we're talking about, that's the end itself. there is actually a complement complement. it's coming to us in for an, an easier in the face of finding our economy better shape and strengthening buys with the global self. and that's what we think about pick itself. so it is for us, for us here. and to be more than that, how to be able to work with all the a couple. so that's why i was mentioning about the bridge nation wants to be that

bridge. and i the same time the brakes is also offers access for 4 or 4 of us to institutional regional powers, like brazil and russia, india, china, right? south africa. and these win enable all this calibration on what on food security, on energy security. and also by we offer new c o dependency on any single power to make sure that we work with all this. no single bower, indonesia, again, as a breach of the for loop and definitely being countries enhancing is influential, multi polar, will a lot of advancing. i'm national park before i kind of make resilience and so i send the book for that. and that's uh, indonesia thinking. and that's how we see indonesia. and then we are the 4th largest population and well, you know and, and, and, but talking,

but pressure itself. i mean, think we have a very long history between russia and indonesia, and we want to do more because when i, and sorry, just touching on russia because i just mean because when i have talk, i know i was mentioning one of the initiatives about energy security as an example, right? the fashion technology on your clear as an exam that we can work on together perhaps, and other things on the foot switch security, indonesia has been importing a lot of, uh for the lasers and bar thing to awesome drains from, from russia. is there something that we should then strengthen our relationship? you know, although, if you look at the numbers of freights, containers and russia in 2022 to towards 23. in the 3 days i reduce the medium from one, you know, but 3.3, that the sleeve or seem to find 3, but still very small reduce but i think we should work more, which is worth more. right?

and, and, and i think there's a lot of things that we can do together. and again, i think the history, the full by itself, how indonesia and russia worked together all these years by the game. and as again, you can see our president even possible visit the most cool mattress, answering the president of us and then slide them in and then pushing and 19 so this is showing that they know how indonesia respect russia and and i think there's a lot of work we can do to get them. so what's your assessment of the bilateral ties between russia and indonesia? and as you mentioned, there are a lot of work that can be done. but what are the future between these right? i mentioned earlier about the foot. sorry, the energy is, i mean, you know,

when we want to create a sizable flip and on energy want to make sure it's clean energy and indonesia is really exploring and pushing forward this new technology. right. so actually i have the technology as an example. and that is actually to help and develop an offer as not only on the front of the energy itself, it will create a what we call the a base float for indonesia having this nuclear energy. but most of them that is that if you look at the future, so i have mentioned about digitalization, i mention about a i all this level of one of the association which will be increasing over for the 50 for indonesia or for, for the way, for opportunity truck forward in economy there is in need of this digitalization. and this association meets a lot of so called data centers that the sensors needs

a lot of energy. and so one of the, uh, could be solution is this note here made a screen. it is, um, uh, can be useful based volt and so this can be utilizing and pushing for our economic growth in which really helping on a digitalization another, as i mentioned about the foods. so here's how can ration technology, ration capital together be to induction. reesha can we can find this energy in this foot. situation where you know, file close with invoice actually. and now the flipping for the states, for example in purple and say that is helpful because very clear. we want to make sure that we have independence of i would foot right rush, how can i help? and then at the same time,

but that is more i'd say actually that we can do. but one of the perhaps challenges between that is about the logistics. right. and, and, and this is where we need to build new ways of going to, so call russia. but more than last year, we also have in the process of signing what we call the duration of academic partnership agreement between indonesia and the ratio rationalized part of that. and if we can conclude this phase soon, and we can create a, a new excess class here through the automatic right, which is kind of leads on going for our largest ex solutions. this will create a better every chances on ologist 6. but at the same time, with the ocean, a bit of about the ship agreements between us,

between the ratio ratio and any reason that could also create model incentive formation this assess and innovation be success to work together. and then so with that, i think it opens up more opportunities, not only in the energy sectors, up on the, in the foot surface, binding all sectors. and again, we need capital of russia. we need also different ology of fresh. yeah. let's work together. yeah. so like to bring your attention back to indonesia. okay. and the chamber that you lead is one of the most important and the most influential bodies in the country when it comes to attracting investment. so what's your strategy when it comes to working with foreign investors and also partners on a state level, our responsibility is to be able to create more independent us and how to upgrade the interpreters from michael to small, small, to medium, medium,

to the last corporation. oh, this possibility also to actually give a different inputs on various policies. okay. for all the ministers for all the ministry goals for and a lot of the whether it is a central, whether it is a professional and software. so we have the right of focusing again. so i don't, and i mean, you know, and in the us to have the so called the lease for him. yeah. and the, the low business actually legal obese is actually ada chambers. right? but more than that, in order for us than to work with either we have other countries how to promote indonesia. we have well, because of our balance, little communities, the spell of the community is like, perhaps, embassies. you can imagine emphasis. so we will, we'll have a chair for each of the by the committees. and the chair is like them as of right.

so we have like 54 that call me this within cutting. so, for example, russia, we have a balance or call me the for last year. we have about the committee for the us. we'll buy it, they're going to do for china. go by there for me before all the countries. ok. and that is possible to be, to have that responsible, to, to maintain and to engage which is of this country. so for example, our general for the community, if i shop, for example, is the chair and the theme has to be this was well in the relationship between uh with the russian embassy and in the nation. but not only that, how to create a relationship within the image, an embassy in russia. and at the same time how to engage with that, i sion tempers or whether it's in the level of the central or even the profit itself or the state so fresh you. right? so the task is actually to, to create this engagement,

to be able to understand better, to be able to see what kind of what is needed, what the session need for when an easier, what does he understand this from russia, how to improve the, the relationship between the 2 countries, the businesses and, and, and, and that's, that is possibly the of this, by the answer. that is a basis for them, for example, that russia have every year they should invite us. i actually spoke there, unfortunately i was, was not there physically, but at least during the button i spoke to zoom as an example to through, you know, so, so, so we, we are very active. so and we, uh, you can see the building relationship building relationship, creating a platform for all the businesses from overseas. but at the same time we have the lights off and focusing on that to go home and the inputs of the go, what are the challenges? so with this as an example,

that's why we create the lamp of internship towards 2045. and then we also now kind of like a white paper, which is a 5 years plan that we believe this afternoon. you should, if, if i was mentioning to anybody beginning the, some of the initiative that could actually lead to an economic growth that will make sure that the percent growth happens as an example. so we did that and we presented our lives with have about something that is that happened recently bought, where china and indonesia recently site deals with $10000000000.00 this us dollars at the new nature. china business form in b. james, for spending sectors, including food, new energy technology and biotechnology, your hours there you were there, you're dissipated in this because you shouldn't as well. so what role has your chamber played in these negotiation and, and please share with as what has been the most important highlights during the talks. ok,

i think it again to say is just the work of the chambers, right. it works. but what is, 1st of all, it is important is the relationship between the 2 countries and the, and the leaders of to, to kind of get desktops with that. right? so as you know, by which would be until when to beach. and after he was really became president because of dental. yeah. if you remember that human flu to waging after that he flew to talk you then and just recently right here. and he is already becoming a president, and i agree that as a president, the 1st country that he visit, that was china. it was, he was amazing. this is where the business for him had them. but then after that he fell to washington dc. and now is still traveling to visit all this various categories that this during that,

anything engaging recently between president and being and uh, so publish will be and i want to highlight this 1st. there is a smell out of the alignment of watching things. but researching things, or president of china and strategy, and we've got by both sides. so we start with that 1st. that is 3, a global initiative if that visit engine being already announced. the 1st is about the so called development image of the global image envelope and information. the 2nd is the global security initiative. and the 3rd is the global, a civilization initiative. if you look at this 3, and then when you look at from the perspective about publish, again, i know about this security publish until always patient about the position of fame

or indonesia. he went to pleasures as peacekeepers of to he wants to make sure. also the good name for policy, those will answers what we call the. so call a global script to finish that teen butler. so she's in shipping have and then on the global development, that's the thinking is about not only economic growth, but to make sure to adjust academically. and that's very similar, but so far upper level. but i'm always thinking about the possibility of the people . so economic growth or economic development is needed for the perspective of the people. that's why i called them and they, and researching being steph loveland initiative, which is similar to the thinking of approval of the, of the nature of the invitation people is prosper or so the economic growth of 8 percent that is planning that he has push is not just for the lead is for all

touching from you can see the fisherman, the farmers. yeah. the micro, small, medium enterprises all the way to all people living nobody behind and that's very aligned to the global and developing initiative. and then the goal under the supervision is this is where the part of the only make sure that the education codger our own the instrument of values is very important. and that is about level belief. death in the nation intern aegis values is very important. we have to make sure that you know that the people of indonesia acknowledge, let us know about that. the next generation must know about this. so called called church about the belief, the valid indonesia by the same time, want to make sure that others all sort of specs. right?

for example, religion know the spec on religion. that's why we have the value of getting this thing. never since it goes back, all you know, all races the most, i see what location and location house those are there. right? so all of these global image of this, if you look at the bible thinking for indonesia, for the next 5 years of audio link. right, talking about all 4, this is wherever talking about energy security that can go for security august aspect of it. but if you look at the program, that's why there's so many agreement. langley is even under d through j g, be 4 to be to be under gigi levels in discussing about the maritime me talking discussion about a 4 foot security discussion about the, the issues of a, of the friends together, you know, so all those are then comes to the business to business,

this is where the $10000000000.00 is a follow up in a way of an alignment of those of the initiative our relationship that is g 2 g. okay, and that's why, for example, one of the largest of the $10000000.00 was an example is to to create additional value added on down streaming in indonesia of if that followed you from china. that was sharing donasia, investing, co investing with innovation businesses in indonesia. that's actually to further improve our advocacy fee, legal system as an example, and then under farming sites, right. how to push, i think i'll just and then also important for, for uh, for the in the nation. so let's go to the. so i've, i don't want to think that the complement only goes to chambers. no, but the 1st, the complement my goes to the,

to the president because he has those initiative. and this is the follow up or of that initiative, or those agreement that the 2 nations as 2 liters and give us. and of course, the 5 how the texas is supporting those and, and if it's necessary also that you know, for this academic rules, it can only just be fuel by take the whole imagine. but it must be also fuel from the participation nonprofit sectors capital into innovation. and that will create the percent of mr. r schneider. i should thank you so much for your time. thank you for such an insightful discussion with the facts you. we really appreciate it. so i appreciate it very much and i hope that a lot of hollow the russian sisters prizes little comes indonesia. thing about

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